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Anonymous No.718368594 >>718370730 >>718373724 >>718375496 >>718375690 >>718380013 >>718380542 >>718380625 >>718381735 >>718381895 >>718382021 >>718382550 >>718382634 >>718382729 >>718382760 >>718384113 >>718385562 >>718385631 >>718385636 >>718388853
>sells more than death stranding 2
Anonymous No.718368635 >>718375597
not buying either one
Anonymous No.718370095 >>718375597
I'm buying both
Anonymous No.718370730
>>718368594 (OP)
hope it happens just for the drama
Anonymous No.718371736 >>718373724
I think I made a mistake playing MGSV right before this
This shit is fun
Anonymous No.718373724 >>718377651 >>718379862 >>718383807 >>718386816
>>718368594 (OP)
Fuck you.
#FuckKonami.
No Kojima = No Buy.
UE5 Slop = NEVER ever buy.

>>718371736
It's only "fun" for the first couple hours. Then the empty, unfinished Ubishit openworld and plot start to really show.

It's just an all around worse Peace Walker knockoff.
Anonymous No.718375496
>>718368594 (OP)
Will it?
Anonymous No.718375572 >>718375678
Why does he a patch over his eye? Is he a pirate
Anonymous No.718375597
>>718368635
This.
>>718370095
Definitely not this.
Anonymous No.718375639
i'm surprised that ds2 broke 1.5m sales
i guess kojimbo could just shit in a box and people would still buy it
Anonymous No.718375678 >>718376830
>>718375572
Lost it in a crab battle
Anonymous No.718375690 >>718375958
>>718368594 (OP)
Kojima is a hack.
Anonymous No.718375958
>>718375690
kojima lives rent free in your head.
Anonymous No.718376830
>>718375678
ITS A CAVE DEMON
Anonymous No.718377651 >>718379258 >>718381860 >>718383423
>>718373724
Peace Walker was worse than Portable Ops. The only reason people think PW is better is because it was on the HD collection that got ported to everything. The only reason people think PO is bad is because they heard some influencer told them so (almost no one actually played it).
Peace Walker had the worst controls in the series and the gameplay became too repetitive, especially toward the end. It was so bizarre how Kojima provided 3 different ways to control the game, none of which was like the classic MGS control scheme, and they all sucked. The story is just as bad if not worse than Portable Ops. There are only two things that PW has over PO the first being that the levels feel bigger because of the Monster Hunter structure they have, but that is ruined by the fact that you get booted out of the level after completing a task that takes way too little time and effort to accomplish. The second being the fulton recovery system which is a straight upgrade from PO.
Portable Ops controls like a portable version of MGS3 and even has the same movement capabilities as MGS3, not opting to replace the crawl with a crouch like PW did. The levels, while smaller overall, feel like a single map screen directly from MGS3. The game, while having optional repeatable missions, is nowhere near as grindy as PW and can be completed much faster so things don't become as dull so quickly. The only thing that slows the game down is recruiting soldiers, but that isn't as bad as some people make it out to be since you just need to get the body to a relay box to recruit them. PO also has much better boss fights than PW, with actual human enemies and a metal gear boss that isn't repeated ad nauseum.
Peace Walker controls also bled into the 3DS version of MGS3 which I played recently and it was horrendous.
Anonymous No.718377802 >>718378060
I feel like this game could be mind blowing for people who were born yesterday. For me though, I have the entire game's map fixed in memory. The thought of playing it for premium bux is not something I'm looking forward to. Maybe when it's in the bin, or if word gets out that they managed to sneak in some new content that is also good.
Anonymous No.718378060
>>718377802
The remake doesn't look horrible. Certainly better than most modern remakes, but not quite to the standard of the best remake of all time Resident Evil for the gamecube.
Most of the complaints I have about it, based on the footage I've seen, has been mostly minor (i.e. not liking how the octocamo equivalent that was shown looks, the constant pop up of foliage that then slams down onto snake just looks ugly). The UI does have that modern soulless look to it though which isn't a good sign.
I won't buy the game anyways since my computer is a decade old and probably can't play it, but hopefully it turns out okay and Konami can go back to publishing good games (I say publishing because they didn't make this game)
Anonymous No.718379121 >>718379601
The thread is dying and no one will ever hear about why Portable Ops is better.
Anonymous No.718379258 >>718379374 >>718379914 >>718389783
>>718377651
PO is shit, PW is the actual sequel to MGS3.

I don't know why people care about the gameplay of the MGS series. You're playing for the story, they're movie games with serviceable gameplay at most.
Anonymous No.718379374 >>718379458
>>718379258
>I don't know why people care about the gameplay
I really hope this is just bait to try to get more people into the thread
Anonymous No.718379458 >>718379762 >>718385692
>>718379374
You really care about the gameplay in MGS games? It's braindead, which is why you can do shit like run through guys and then hold them up. If you want a stealth game you play something more fun like Thief, or Splinter Cell.

The point of MGS is the story.
Anonymous No.718379601
>>718379121
portable ops has actual bosses.
Anonymous No.718379762 >>718379903
>>718379458
The MGS games have great gameplay. The cutscenes are only for the first play through, I have always skipped them on subsequent playthroughs. The cutscenes are the worst part of the MGS games to be honest. The worst offender being MGS4, not because the cutscenes are bad (they are) but because there are so many cutscenes and so little gameplay. The gameplay in MGS4 is the best in the series, but there is so little of it that I can't say that MGS4 as a whole is the best in the series. The best way to play the games is on European Extreme on the games that have that as an option, or just Extreme if that is the hardest difficulty.
Another stealth series that I like would be the Tenchu series (Tenchu 1, 2, Wrath of Heaven, and Fatal Shadows. the rest of the series isn't very good).
Anonymous No.718379862 >>718380584
>>718373724
>It's only "fun" for the first couple hours
What a retard. It keeps unlocking new weapons and tool well into 100+ hours.
>bubububut it's not an urban environment like GZ and that's... bad
Shut up you dumb faggot
>worse Peace Walker
Literally the worst Kojima game and I'm including VNs in that. Typical poser opinion from a retard who doesn't know how to play MGS
Anonymous No.718379903
>>718379762
To add to this, I would like to say that I think MGO2 was the best in the series when it was still active (I know about the fan servers, I'm talking about when it was actually active) because it was just the pure gameplay of MGS4 without all the excess fluff
Anonymous No.718379914
>>718379258
>PWtard doesn't care about gameplay
What else is new. Except PW fails at story as well because it just recycles all of Snake Eater themes. You have to a special brand of low IQ retard to be a fan of PW
Anonymous No.718380013
>>718368594 (OP)
The way he holds the knife looks so shit. Kojima won.
Anonymous No.718380542 >>718380840 >>718380993
>>718368594 (OP)
Metal gear is kinda weird, it's a series that has been out of the relevance for so long and the last release was around the time gaming became ultra normified, but that game was also not really a proper metal gear game (still great in terms of gameplay) and it didn't seem to be a game most normies played backed then either.
Now a wave of vtuber normies and fortnite kids are hyping up a re-release of mgs3 just because it has good graphics and they know the name kojima, but they have no real connectiont to it. That's fine but weird
Most other old series have at least had a semi consistent release throughout the years, but for most people now mgs is just a name they've heard of
Anonymous No.718380584 >>718380740
>>718379862
The reason why GZ was better is not because of the "urban environment" (It was about as urban as one of the warehouse areas in TPP), but because GZ had more structure to it than TPP. It still wasn't the best, but some level design and structure is better than none. I will agree that TPP was better than PW in terms of the controls, but PW had better levels, even if the missions were too short. PW had worse grinding than TPP though so I guess that evens out that point. Grinding isn't a good thing by the way, so your point about unlocking new weapons is moot.
The MGS ranking is MGO2 > MGS3 > MGSPO > MGS2 > MGS > MGS GZ > MGS TPP β‰ˆ MGS PW
If you count the 2D games, then I would put ghost babel above GZ, but below MGS and the original two games would be dead last with the second one being above the first
Anonymous No.718380625 >>718380773 >>718380871 >>718381748
>>718368594 (OP)
How will the game run? It's another UE 5 slop
Anonymous No.718380740
>>718380584
I just realized I forgot to add in the original MGO and MGS4 into my ranking, so here is the revised version (with the 2D games added in too)
MGO2 > MGS3 > MGO >MGSPO > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS > MG GB > MGS GZ > MGS TPP β‰ˆ MGS PW > MG2 > MG
Anonymous No.718380773
>>718380625
It better run flawlessly on my 1080ti and 2700k
Anonymous No.718380840
>>718380542
I feel the same way about MGS:delta as I do about the FF7 remake, which is that it took waayyyyy too long to happen. I adore MGS:3, but at this point even my hype is gone. I guess being numb to remakes at this point is also a part of it.
Anonymous No.718380871
>>718380625
It couldn't run worse than the original PW on PSP (running fully on the UMD instead of downloading the data to the PSP's memory stick for improved performance), right?
Anonymous No.718380993 >>718383084
>>718380542
The MGS games have always been extremely popular and loved by normies. The reason why normies only know about the more recent games is because they have the memory of goldfish (they have to save space for the next fotm by deleting old memories) and new normies keep getting popped out every day so it just seems like they weren't as well known as they actually were
Anonymous No.718381661 >>718381915
Were the Metal Gear Acid games good? I don't like card games, but I did like Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories for the GBA and the Acid series seems like the MGS version of that. From what I've seen, Acid 1 has a better art style while Acid 2 has the better waifu (despite the rest of the game looking ugly as sin)
Anonymous No.718381720
Why doesn't the game actually look like that, that looks amazing
Anonymous No.718381735
>>718368594 (OP)
Saw some video of the gameplay it looked really bad the enemies all rush to you like zombies do just like in mgstpp in old mgs games they would shoot while the other guy would try to flank you.
Anonymous No.718381748
>>718380625
UE5 games always shit the bed because of huge open worlds and big maps.
MGS Delta still uses segmented maps like OG so hopefully it does run well.
Anonymous No.718381765 >>718381901 >>718381961
I wanna buy this, but i'm a stingy cunt and my PC would probably explode if I tried running it.
Anonymous No.718381860 >>718382038
>>718377651
I played portable ops and it's bad the whole recruitment system sucks you have to drag the guy around. Also mgs pw and mgs tpp are good games but some of the things in it put me off and they are all flawed games.

Mgs2 and 3 were amazing but still had problems
Anonymous No.718381895 >>718382302
>>718368594 (OP)
>>sells more than death stranding 2
Well that's what they get when they didn't release it for PC too
Anonymous No.718381901 >>718382061
>>718381765
The requirements are extremely moderate, I would say even pretty low, considering how Ryzen 3600 is a recommended CPU, for a game that has 60 fps mode on consoles.
I bet even my old PC with 3600 and 2070S could run it at 1620p-4K with DLSS Performance at 60 fps.
Anonymous No.718381915
>>718381661
Acid 1 is shit acid 2 is good


Both are kinda shit when I played it. I played it more like a tactics game rather then a sneaking game then its allright
Anonymous No.718381961
>>718381765
Same here have a toaster it struggles to emulate 3ds games
Anonymous No.718382021
>>718368594 (OP)
nortubel outsold both
Anonymous No.718382038 >>718382307
>>718381860
How is it bad? The controls are better than PW. The recruitment system isn't as grindy as PW's research and repeat missions and isn't that hard to do once you realize you just need to drag the body to one of the relay boxes instead of the truck. These are all points I made in that post though so I'm just repeating myself.
I want an actual reason why you think it is worse other than "it's bad" and not just one reason when I fully articulated my reasoning in the post you just replied to
Anonymous No.718382061
>>718381901
I have a 2070 and a Ryz 7 2700x
It would probably run it borderline fine, but I want the game not to look like blurry shit or have framerate dips, especially when UE5 is poorly optimized.
Anonymous No.718382302
>>718381895
Yeah. Konami would have to fuck up hard to sell a PC multiplat game less than a damn PS5 exclusive.
Anonymous No.718382307 >>718382667 >>718383113
>>718382038
>The recruitment system isn't as grindy as PW's research
I'll be 6 feet under the cold dead ground before you have me drag soldier after soldier in the most annoying and slow way possible
>"buh the box delivery system!"
It's just as slow because you have to
-Bring soldier to a box
-go into radio menu
-call the box delivery
-now the soldier who was there is back at the truck and so you have to
-go into soldier switching menu
-place him somewhere for later
and only NOW you can resume playing the damn game

in early game, this shit sucks balls since you have to ammass soldiers to progess and get better gear and you also don't have any soldiers with the quick drag.

In PW
-tranq soldier
-fulton him
done

Drag to recruit is a god awful system and I find myself not even trying to the actual mission instead
Anonymous No.718382431 >>718382804
Somebody please tell me how to refresh standard orders in DS2. I have everything maxed except for The Ghost Hunter and The Adventurer. Both are nearly at five stars but there's no standard orders I can complete for either of them.
Anonymous No.718382489
SSSUSWAKE IIIIITERUUU

Kanashi wa yoo Deshi te no waa
Kae wa wo younderu desuuuuu

SUWAKEUU iiiIITERUUU
Anonymous No.718382550
>>718368594 (OP)
based,
FUCK shitskin stranding 2
Anonymous No.718382634
>>718368594 (OP)
People need to accept nobody cares about kojima's walking sim
Anonymous No.718382667
>>718382307
You don't really need to unlock much in PO though. You only need to recruit enough in order to reach the arbitrary amount needed in each field to unlock the next part of the story. This is the only required grind in the game, hence why I said that the grind isn't as bad as PW which feels like you actually need to unlock the weapons and items that are hidden behind R&D in order to keep up with the enemies (plus the required upgrades that need bodies so that you can further some story stuff too). The fulton makes the recruitment in PW much faster, but you need to recruit even more people as a trade off.
That is only one point against PO and it isn't even a major issue since recruitment isn't a major thing in the game.
Anonymous No.718382729
>>718368594 (OP)
Damn this magazine is this popular?
Anonymous No.718382760
>>718368594 (OP)
This makes me think of my early teens when the game came out. I skipped school got the game and played it. It was so cool people these days wont understand and I wont understand what kida feels today but back when msg 3 was being teased it was so exciting all the hype the internet theories god I miss it

You don't get the same thing these days
Anonymous No.718382804 >>718382879
>>718382431
It depends on what character you select. If you select Morrigan, you will need to full upgrade the bonfire at Majula first before you can even unlock that route
Anonymous No.718382879
>>718382804
Anonymous No.718383084
>>718380993
This, I don’t know why people try to say hit action games from the PS2 era are these niche genres just because so much else has happened and they’re not as relevant
Anonymous No.718383113
>>718382307
You could just use recruitment codes to unlock characters that will boost your different departments enough that you won't need to naturally recruit until later in the game if at all. This isn't cheating either as when the game came out it was intended that players would share soldiers with each other (there is an option to send and receive soldiers) in order to create a more social aspect for the game. No one plays the game so just using the recruit codes is fine to emulate this aspect of the game.
Anonymous No.718383423 >>718383562
>>718377651
>Peace Walker had the worst controls in the series
U wot? Its basically MGS4's controls minus crawling. If anything its PO that had really cumbersome controls. I have no idea why they didn't use fixed camera angles for that game since the PSP lacked a second analog stick
Anonymous No.718383562 >>718383643
>>718383423
PW is in no way similar to MGS4 other than the aiming reticle and camera positioning. Did you play the HD collection version?
Anonymous No.718383643 >>718383843
>>718383562
>Did you play the HD collection version?
Yeah, basically the best way to play the game today
Anonymous No.718383807 >>718384064 >>718386816
>>718373724
I've played it for 40 hours and counting so I think I'm past the "first couple hours"
Anonymous No.718383843 >>718384051
>>718383643
Then you didn't play the actual PW which was shit. PO still holds up better than the original PW because it had the same controls as MGS3, just slightly modified to work with the PSP's more limited buttons and single analog stick. Try emulating PW for the PSP or the 3DS version of MGS3 which uses the same controls as the original PW. It's abysmal.
Also even with the HD collection, PW controls much worse than MGS4. It isn't absolute garbage like the original PSP version, but it still isn't that great and comparing it to MGS4 is a sin, even if the HD version borrowed some aspects of the controls from it
Anonymous No.718384051 >>718384289
>>718383843
I didn't play the original Snake Eater release with the top down camera either. Its not really fair to criticise a games flaws when an updated version exists that addresses them.
>but it still isn't that great
Well yeah but it isn't the absolute worst either.
Anonymous No.718384064
>>718383807
Did it take 40 hours to get to Huey? I'm pretty sure I remember him not being that far in. The actual game was rather short if you skipped all the grinding.
Anonymous No.718384113
>>718368594 (OP)
So we can already add this to the "Woke games that sell" list right?
Anonymous No.718384289 >>718384667
>>718384051
PSP PW does have the worst controls. If you want to be a retard about it and pretend that an update alters history, then the original MGS would be the one in the series with the worst controls since it is the second worst, control wise, after PW (the original).
Also The original release of SE wasn't bad at all. I don't have my original copy, but I remember beating the game on hard a bunch as a kid with the original version of the game. The new camera in subsistence was nice, but not necessary.
If you want to count updated controls as well, then there is also a digital vita version of PO that adds in camera control on the second analog stick which makes the game even more like MGS3.
Anonymous No.718384667 >>718384979
>>718384289
>PSP PW does have the worst controls
Sure whatever but don't use it as an actual criticism of the game when it isn't the PSP version that anons are talking about here. The vast majority of people who play PW use the HD version as the standard
Anonymous No.718384979 >>718385458
>>718384667
It is fair criticism as the controls in the original are the worst. The controls in the HD version are not very good either, with the only plus being that they are not as bad as the original. They take some aspects of the controls of MGS4 then mangle them to fit the far more limited number of actions that can be performed in PW. That is only focusing on the main control set up of course. The other two control schemes that you can pick are far worse, so it is a mercy that the main control scheme is merely a pale imitation of a better game's controls. I think it is fair to point out that Kojima intentionally made sure that none of the optional control schemes resembled the classic MGS style of control as he clearly resented the series at this point as well.
Anonymous No.718385158 >>718385252 >>718385856
>Modders release MGS:V co-op mod right before this is about to come out
Based and fuck konamipilled.
Never forget the pachinko mgs3 and silent hills 2
Anonymous No.718385252 >>718385529 >>718385928
>>718385158
I don't get why western troon still cling on to the "fuck konami" train. Nobody really cares and in japan at least death stranding made most people just not care for kojima either. You faggots ignore everything else konami releases for their home market. Bombergirl does big numbers and recently shine post did pretty well for a switch 2 launch game.
Anonymous No.718385458 >>718386907
>>718384979
What exactly was so bad about PW's controls? The only major things PW is missing are crawling and moving bodies (which is redundant thanks to fultons)
>none of the optional control schemes resembled the classic MGS style of control
Classic controls were well out their way since MGS4 and wouldn't fit the design of PW
Anonymous No.718385529
>>718385252
The only konami games that are worth talking about are metal gear, castlevania amd silent hill, and I rather if they sold those properties to capcom and nintendo instead
Anonymous No.718385562
>>718368594 (OP)
Anonymous No.718385631
>>718368594 (OP)
How? I didn't even buy it
Anonymous No.718385636 >>718386673
>>718368594 (OP)
What's the point of the remake if the fans already played the original
Anonymous No.718385692 >>718385943
>>718379458
So fucking wrong holy shit
Anonymous No.718385856
>>718385158
as if I have anyone to play it with
Anonymous No.718385928 >>718385996
>>718385252
>I don't get why western troon still cling on to the "fuck konami" train.
>Everybody who can see what konami is doing is a troom
lol faggot, the only reason konami is pushing hard again for videogames is to get people back into pachinko. For years all they did was mobileslop, but those fags are already middle age business men.

Step 1: Introduce game when somebody is young
Step 2: Create pachinko slop when they become legal
Step 3: Person, nostalgic, moves to play the pachinko games.
Without step 1, konami suffers in the long run.
Anonymous No.718385943
>>718385692
Nta, but how so? The Metal gear solid series is more fun than it is a serious stealth game.
Anonymous No.718385996 >>718386293
>>718385928
You post your tranny manifesto and still have the gall to call me a faggot? Just admit you fags in the west follow what youtubers tell you and move on. They release a lot of games and are treated with pretty good will in their home country.
Anonymous No.718386293 >>718386351
>>718385996
>You post your tranny manifesto and still have the gall to call me a faggot?
Yes, faggot. You projecting that you want to be a tranny now?
>Just admit you fags in the west follow what youtubers tell you and move on.
Nigger, I live in Japan, and I'm still not going to play konami slop.
Anonymous No.718386351 >>718386420
>>718386293
That's worse. Admit your one of those H1b jeets and fuck off already
Anonymous No.718386420 >>718386490
>>718386351
Frankly I'm probbaly whiter that you.
Now back to my strong zero 9%.
Anonymous No.718386490 >>718386526
>>718386420
Sure buddy. SAAAAR I AM NATIVE TO JAPAN!!
Anonymous No.718386526 >>718386556
>>718386490
>All caps
>Never said I was native
Sneed
Anonymous No.718386556
>>718386526
You just proved my last point kumar
Anonymous No.718386673
>>718385636
gen z can't play games with ps2 graphics, for them is like for you playing vic20 or atari 2600 games
Anonymous No.718386816
>>718373724
I enjoyed MGSV for the entire 200 hr length I played it.

>>718383807
Don't listen to that fag. Half this board are transgenders. The raw masculinity of MGSV is lost on them.
Anonymous No.718386906 >>718388672 >>718388726
The ps3 version emulated better than the ps2 version on the 'eck and the pirated HD collection doesn't receive inputs.
So I'm playing with square on R2 and circle on L2. there will be a learning curve..(fucking menus) but my silencer is already near half durability just after the prologue, so it is a necessity.
Anonymous No.718386907
>>718385458
The PW controls in the PSP version were a complete experimental mess where Kojima put up 3 different styles to play as an experiment to see where to take MGSV. By the time the HD version came out, he had mixed more of the MGS4 controls back into things which then brought it slightly closer to MGSV. I would say the ideal version of an MGS5 would have been PW style levels with MGSV controls
Also I don't remember if it was in the HD version, but the weapon/item selection in PW being consolidated into one button that you then had to move between submenus in all the while the game is still going and enemies could attack you was annoying.
Anonymous No.718388672 >>718388726
>>718386906
nigga there's a native PC port for almost 2 years now
Anonymous No.718388726
>>718386906
>>718388672
>and the pirated HD collection doesn't receive inputs.
ahh, never mind
Kojima No.718388828
Ching chong pingaling dong orangatanga balinga bunguro doguro inu mai butteru horru evurroo dae
Anonymous No.718388853 >>718388936
>>718368594 (OP)
Nobody talks about the masterpiece that was Twin Snakes.
Kojima No.718388936 >>718389042
>>718388853
I never played it. I assume it's probably actually good though since most video game reviewers back then were retarded and overexaggerated everything for comedic effect
Anonymous No.718389042
>>718388936
Well, we have something in common then. Because I haven't played it either.
Anonymous No.718389153 >>718389404
Nobody talks about Metal Gear Solid Touch. I wonder why?
Anonymous No.718389404
>>718389153
Because only Vamp would want to be touched by (you)
Captcha: V2SSS
V2 has come to. The S3 plan is still ongoing.
Anonymous No.718389783
>>718379258
PW story is trash
>mgs 3 but bad
>final boss is literally some stupid bitch named "Pacifia Ocean"
Absolutely a waste of time