Thread 718371007

>Three games worth of content in one game
>Mod support
>Constant updates
>Community still complains and demands even more content
I never understood this about Total War community. Most games would kill for such a huge amount of post-release support

>>718371007 (OP)
the developers are cunts
and the new content is way overpriced
it's not warpstone all that glitters, anon-friend.

>>718371007 (OP)
Go be a paradox game fanboy if you want to suck off devs for nothing that badly

>>718371050
>warpstone, anon-friend.

>>718371614
>for nothing
???

>>718371007 (OP)
Basically: the base games are terrible and developed by the A team, which are awful at their job, so when the B team rolls along to clean up the mess and make games worth it, everyone claps and cheers. Problem is, 3's B team has been very slow, underdelivering and focusing on all the wrong aspects, so people are getting anxious. Like who seriously still plays with Sieges on? Who cares about them fixing them?

Ive been reading flavor text about ind and the monkey king during loading screens for 18 months now. They better not scrap that shit.

>powercreep easymode cheat faction
>powercreep easymode cheat faction
>powercreep easymode cheat faction
>powercreep easymode cheat faction

>>718371902
the strongest faction in SP is still base wh3 khorne though

>>718371614
>paradox game fanboy
I would just pirate it if it was possible and there's no way I'm buying all the DLCs (god bless creamapi). But it's impossible to deny that Paradox games have an enormous amount of content even without counting mods.

>>718371007 (OP)
>No porn mods
I sleep

>>718372142
>he doesn't know

>>718372142
Someone post that one post about beastman

>>718371007 (OP)
>siege battles shit since 1st game
>only now removing ass ladders
Maybe 4th game will be good.

>>718372950
Cool sieges would require a rework of the game and some campaign functions to make the actual siege battles more meaningful. Somehow fucking bannerlord does sieges better than wh3, which is baffling.
Hell Shogun 2 sieges are more fun, despite the retarded wall climbing.

>>718371007 (OP)
>>Three games worth of content in one game
Three games (+DLC) that I paid for
>>Mod support
Implementing mod support is the bare minimum
>>Constant updates
I fucking wish. It took them 3 months to fix Nakai’s kroxigor bug
>>Community still complains and demands even more content
If they want us to spend money on the game, then they better take our complaints with stride and comply. Because I guarantee you that nobody is hyped about the next dlc outside of the free faction reworks

>>718373420
You forget how everyone hated the game when CA went:
>We make a shitty DLC, ask too much for it and tell everyone on reddit and twitter that we're abandonig total war in favour of hyenas.
>Also everyone that is mean to us is a Nazi because Hyenas will make mad money.

>>718371007 (OP)
All the development time and money the studio wasted on Hyenas leaves people feeling like smit should have gone to total Warhammer
I have a more precise wish, it should have gone to adding naval combat

>>718372142
sir? your corruption of Katarina of Kislev & the Chinese?

Can you guys help, I'm starting my course soon and our teacher is asking us to purchase this book, [Governing States and Localities by Kevin B]

Anyone have a PDF/Ebook download for it please?

>>718371823
>Like who seriously still plays with Sieges on?
I do

>>718371007 (OP)
>buy 3 games *and 300 pieces of DLC*
>and get 3 games worth of content in one!

wow holy OP that's literally infinite value money hack

>>718371007 (OP)
>battle ai shit but passable
>campaign ai shit and annoying
>hero/lords power creep to destroy whole armies
>no unit upgrades like banners musicians or captains
>no araby
>no dogs of war (dlc for them leaked tho)
>end game still not a threat

They've piled features on features but the product as a whole needs a once over and polish into a cohesive product. But they cant sell that so it likely wont happen

>>718371007 (OP)
>content
It isn't about new content but value for money and broken promises.Most experienced players don't care for new content as much as they want the existing content polished and finished. The game needs fixes to sieges, battlemap size, pathfinding, mid and end game mechanics and many more things. Many systems such as diplomacy lack features seen in past games such as three kingdoms.

Warhammer 3 was charged as a full price game but it added fuck all. It's narrative campaign Realms of Chaos is a complete crock of shit to the extent CA needed to rush immortal empires out half baked to save the franchise.

>>718371050
They wanted to put this on the backburner for Hyenas btw until it was cancelled

Fuck the devs, wanted to drop this then came crawling back

>>718373420
>Three games (+DLC) that I paid for
Give me another game that lets you use DLCs from previous games
>Implementing mod support is the bare minimum
You couldn't be further from the truth. Mod support is rare in modern games
>I fucking wish. It took them 3 months to fix Nakai’s kroxigor bug
Only 3 months. And let's not forget about all the free updates we've received over the past few years. After the FREE patch Empire is literally one of the most interesting factions.
>If they want us to spend money on the game, then they better take our complaints with stride and comply
That's literally what they do
>Because I guarantee you that nobody is hyped about the next dlc outside of the free faction reworks
Somehow DLCs still sell well.
I really don't want to say that CA are saints but you'll be dissatisfied no matter what they do. Complaints and whining would have been appropriate not so long ago but now it looks like you're doing it out of habit
>>718374187
>systems such as diplomacy lack features seen in past games
They had it in that Egyptian game and none of you niggers even played it. Total War as a series always had a lot of problems and now is no exception but people like you are just downright annoying. You can't accuse CA of doing nothing, especially after cancelling Hyenas and reworking that one DLC

>>718371007 (OP)
>all female characters are flat
gay

>>718371007 (OP)
>Three games worth of content in one game
And the cost of thirty

>>718374025
>no dogs of war (dlc for them leaked tho)
From what I've heard those were just some leftover files from a scrapped project. Instead they'll add some of those leftovers to other factions.

>>718375609
We don't even know what the future DLCs are gonna be after the Hyenas disaster. Afaik the b Team in Sofia does the bug fixing, reworks and so on. Dlcs are done by by CA in bongland. So could be utter shit new dlcs but good reworks

Suck my huge fat dick homo. You werent there when hyena join the ack nearly killed total war

>>718371007 (OP)
The post-release support for TWWH3 has been significantly worse than what it was during TWWH2, most of the content the game has comes from the previous 2 games. Don't get me wrong, it's still shitloads of content, but CA definitely fucked up with the 3rd game.

>>718375726
>We don't even know what the future DLCs
Nigga they announced the next dlc months ago - and then postponed it until december.

>>718371007 (OP)
Thinking of getting this next sales. I just finished with Shogun 2 and before that medieval 2

>>718371007 (OP)
>post-release support
the fuck are you talking about, they're selling you DLCs, there's no "support", don't fucking twist the meaning of the word as if the developer is somehow a benevolent entity gracing the poor community with updates from the goodness of their corporate heart, you fucking retard

>>718371007 (OP)
they took one of the most milkable cash cows in existence and did every possible thing to kill their community's goodwill towards the game

>>718371007 (OP)
>constant updates
siege rework (version twelve) (out of one million) (sieges still dont work)

>>718371007 (OP)
They fuck up the DLC like half the time man, fans of the series will tell you as much. They fuck up constantly. Having said that, the game is still SO good that it's one of the only games I paypigged for. I bought every single dlc because even when the updates were bad I wanted more content and to support this game's development. God bless TWWH3.

>play 10 minutes of Total warhammer
>3 hours pass

>>718376319
I swear the July in summer where TWW2 clicked with me and I played it non-stop is definite, UNDENIABLE proof that human perception and emotion is intrinsically linked with time progression. Nghts and days whizzed by like God himself fiddled with the timescale to fuck me over.

>>718376453
>>718376319
>check all my provinces to make sure i don't need to build anything.
>"Okay, I'll just move my armies now and stop for the night."
>move armies, do recruitment, do some autoresolves, take some settlements.
>"Alright, I'll just end turn so I can save and load at the beginning of the next turn when I play tomorrow
>end turn
>"...Might as well check my province construction..."

>play Karl Franz
>everything goes to hell after 5 turns
>can't even capture since it has Marienburg has 2 full stacks of troops
what

>This entire thread
Basically confirms my point. Shit like this >>718376176 makes no sense at all. We literally get updates and changes for free outside of DLCs
I feel like people these days just enjoy being angry and complaining about everything. Surely if you hated the game so much you would simply not play it or talk about it.
Again, I'm not trying to say that it's perfect, but it's still a fun game despite all its problems. I can even say with confidence that it's better than TWW ever was. Just remembering some of the TWW1 or TWW2 DLCs really makes you realise that updates are pretty good these days.

>>718376804
nigger you get patches because the DLCs keep selling, that's it, you think a fucking corporation is patching the game out of the goodness of their heart, you dunce? look at HW3, that's literally what you get if the game undersells

>>718371007 (OP)
It's severely fucked and was released severely fucked. Now that it's out of the main studio's hands, maybe it'll get fixed. Then again, maybe not. The sheer fuckery under this game's hood is a cautionary tale in codebase sanitation and organization, I have no idea how many updates kept bringing back old bugs because they were forked two updates ago and wiped out both updates in the integration.

>>718376984
>you get patches because the DLCs keep selling
Yes, this is called post-release support

>>718377056
so what would happen if the DLC wouldn't sell and there's still bugs?

>>718374510
>you'll be dissatisfied no matter what they do
I was praising them 3 years ago during the chaos rework and the chorf reveal. But everything after that has been very inconsistent. They’ve certainly improved after the whole SOC/Hyenas fiasco but now they’ve gone completely quiet after the dlc delay

>>718371007 (OP)
>Ind and Khuresh never ever
>not even filled with recycled factions, just a wasteland you can't enter

>>718376804
TWW3 is a massive piece of shit and a giant wet fart to end the trilogy on. CAs incompetence strikes yet again.

>>718377187
They will try something big to revive the game and if that doesn't work they will try to bring the game to at least a somewhat stable state before moving on. That's literally what happened with that Total War about Egypt
>>718377247
>but now they’ve gone completely quiet after the dlc delay
I don't understand how people can see anything but positive in this. They are obviously preparing a lot of things besides the announced DLC with all these attempts to fix and refine various parts of the game. That's one of the reasons why I made this thread. All the reactions to the release being pushed back to a later date are super negative, and I don't get it.
>>718377538
You still care so it's not that bad. I remember literally no-one gave a shit about Troy and Britannia.

>>718377663
>They will try
lmao okay anon, keep deluding yourself. you have dozens of high profile games that were abandoned the MOMENT the developer thought it's not gonna be profitable enough
the only reason TW3 gets updates is because the DLCs keep selling, that's it. don't try to paint the devs like they're some sort of fucking saints to grace the unwashed masses with their updates that they've crafted out of the love for the community and the goodness of their hearts, at no cost. No corporation does that, ever.

Is Stellaris good?

>>718376804
You must be one gullible piece of shit if free content is all that entices you to appreciate something

>>718376050
>postponed
Technically it's nearly a year late, the original roadmap for the Nurgle/Khorne/Slaanesh DLCs was something like Q2/3/4 2024 back when they were first announced after the Tzeentch shitshow.

>>718371007 (OP)
>game is a broken piece of shit
>devs only pile more shit on top
>this is good

>>718377813
it's a good map painter, but there are better space 4Xs

>>718377813
it's the best spreadsheet simulator you'll ever play.
It has 10000 options and 5000 of them are bad and 5000 of them are good with 100 of them being super broken and you figure out which is which through trial-and-error over the course of thousands of hours.

>>718377771
Anon, I literally mentioned CA game that got into the situation you're talking about.
>>718377813
All Paradox games are good to some extent. Just pirate them or at least pirate DLCs.
>>718377864
I appreciate fun games and TWW3 is fun. They can stop updating it and I'll still play it sometimes.

>>718374025
>end game still not a threat
You can tweak the options and make it shit out literally hundreds of stacks if you want it to

>>718377925
>there are better space 4Xs
Isn't it the only one in real time though?

>>718371007 (OP)
>Three games worth of content in one game
you still have to buy those 3 games and all of their dlc lmao
this is like saying the cod hq app has 3 games worth of content

>>718376804
I remember that the TWW1 & 2 DLCs were a fraction of the price of the TWW3 DLCs and each one had a free legendary lord released around the same time.
In comparison TWW3's given us Epidemius and Arbaal over the course of five DLCs and three and a half years so far.

>>718377663
>I don't understand how people can see anything but positive in this
A company avoiding its customers is a huge red flag. It means things are so disorganised within the company that they can’t afford to make (or even imply) any promises. supposedly we will get some news tomorrow but at the moment I am not optimistic

>>718378002
>Anon, I literally mentioned CA game that got into the situation you're talking about.
yeah, because they don't want to leave a game in a shit state when they have other games that are exactly the same mechanically that they want to sell. people will see this and when the next game rolls out they won't buy it because "well remember pharaoh?"
also, they aren't doing this for free either, they get money from TW3 DLCs so they think "okay this is a loss for us, but we can score some good boy points so people will buy more DLCs if they see we 'care' about the game", and so on so forth
do i really need to spell it out to you how corporations work? also why the fuck are you defending corpos?

>>718371823
>Like who seriously still plays with Sieges on? Who cares about them fixing them?

Sieges are literally the most important thing to fix right now retard.

>>718378313
Just mod them out.

>>718371007 (OP)
>Three games worth of content in one game
You pay for that content and quite well per DLC, and it used to be you NEEDED to pay for games 1 and 2 to even play the combined map in 3, which is max jewery when you consider nobody plays anything BUT the combined map since the realms of chaos campaign is shit. Credit where it's due they changed it.
>Mod support
CA deserves credit yeah, though I'd say it's 100% in their interest as this game would not have the longevity it does without them.
>Constant updates
That isn't always good, and up until about a year or two none of the updates or worth a damn
>Community still complains and demands even more content
Community is vigilant because when you let CA get away with shit you get shit like waiting half a year for immortal empires or shadows of change.

Is the third one good yet, or am I safe in just sticking with 2 for now.
Also is Khemri in 3 yet, I fucking love me tomb kings

>Tranny War
>Trannyhammer
>Tranny War: Trannyhammer
Yikes!

>>718372142
just go to the nexus the dude took it over

>>718378043
The endgame crisis is shit compared to games like Stellaris.

>>718378139
>I remember that the TWW1 & 2 DLCs were a fraction of the price of the TWW3 DLCs and each one had a free legendary lord released around the same time.
Do you remember actually playing them? Not updated and fixed version but the release one. Price is irrelevant when it's complete trash
>>718378386
It has a bunch of problems but things like faction reworks make it definitely worth it (on sale)

I cant even hold more than 5 cities before I get bored off the AI.

>>718378139
Shit, three years after launch for TWW2 we'd got Repanse, Tiqtak'to, Gor-Rok, Tretch, A fucking leaf, Imrik, Rakarth, KRAKENLORD OF KAROND KAR, Drycha and Thorek.
Two fucking lords for TWW3 in that time, meanwhile all the monogod factions are still starving for characters and Vamp Counts haven't had a new lord since the literal first fucking DLC in the series.

>>718371007 (OP)
When it comes to Warhammer 3 specifically, its a problem of the game's mechanics and playability being worse than 2, and since the community knows they can't expect the devs to work for free for years to change things they cannot sell, it is expected that the devs fix the issues with the game alongside releasing paid content in order to keep them paid and working on bettering the game's core issues themselves.
It is an unwritten understanding between the developers and fanbase that this is how things work, and when the company CEO decided to take the fanbase for granted and not deliver on what was expected, the entire fanbase rebelled immediately to the point where executives had to "be let go" and entire branches had to be closed and brought back into the main team in order to deliver to the people what they have been expecting from the devs.

>>718378468
I remember most of the TWW2 DLCs were pretty good. Everyone knows Grim and Grave was fucking terrible but it's basically on par with the Tzeentch/Kislev/Cathay DLC at release and it was a third of the cost to boot.

>>718378386
Tomb Kings were in 2 anon, they've been in 3 as well ever since Immortal Empires.

>>718374390
>They wanted to put this on the backburner for Hyenas btw until it was cancelled
They should always be bullied and publicly humiliated for Hyenas whenever possible just for that. Imagine using your beloved franchise as a stepping stone for a shitty DEI vanity project nobody in your fanbase actually wanted.

>>718378737
NTA
But Queen&Crone and Hunter&Beast were pretty trash

>>718378737
>Everyone knows Grim and Grave was fucking terrible but it's basically on par with the Tzeentch/Kislev/Cathay DLC at release
Two characters without even unique starting point let alone mechanics vs three characters with unique interesting mechanics

>>718378956
Yeah, that's fair. Prophet and Warlock was decent aside from the fact that half of the Skaven shit should have been in the base game and most of the later DLCs were good.

>>718379017
>ostyanka has to cross half the map to get her full roster and her gimmick is bland
>changeling can't actually ever lose and his gimmick is a lot less interesting than it sounds
>nobody cares about the green chink
Unique and interesting doesn't automatically mean good.

>>718379038
>Prophet and Warlock was decent
The Prophet part of that DLC is probably one of the most subpar pieces of content in the game. At least they did something with Grim and Grave.
>>718379223
It's still nowhere near Volkmar who literally had nothing at all.

>>718374510
>You can't accuse CA of doing nothing, especially after cancelling Hyenas and reworking that one DLC
Mate why are you glazing CA of all companies?

>>718371050
Every piece of DLC is free with creamapi

>>718371007 (OP)
It's a long story.
>Constant updates
well, not exactly. But I'm glad they're still working on it. There's room for more content. Hope they squeeze every single drop out of this game.

>>718374510
>especially after cancelling Hyenas
CA didn't cancel Hyenas, Sega did and then promptly cut the studio short by 60% of the workforce, mostly those involved in that mess. 100mil quid down the drain and I'd bet it's still not recovered with dlc sales

>>718371007 (OP)
How do people even play this for multiple campaigns? The mid-late game is a complete slog

>>718379482
>glazing CA
I simply stated an objective fact.
Half of the crap they do needs even more fixing but you can't accuse them of ignoring the wishes of the players. Their attempts to fix sieges, AI, and other similar fundamental shit was a pleasant surprise for me.
>>718379624
Yes, I'm sure Sega didn't want anything to do with Hyenas and that's why they threw insane amount of money at CA. Do you really believe that?

>>718379856
okay you can stop shilling now, it's way too obvious

>>718371007 (OP)
>3 year old game
>60 dollaridoos
>Another 320 if you actually want to play the complete game
>Glaring issues still haven't been fixed like the sieges being ass
I'll wait till it gets cracked

I don't like how they abandoned RoC

>>718379807
by not playing to long victory. I have over 2000 hours and I've probably completed 3 campaigns. Usually end it between turn 40 and 90.
Early + mid game is generally more fun for me. Only a few factions are enjoyable late game.

>>718379856
>Their attempts to fix sieges, AI, and other similar fundamental shit was a pleasant surprise for me.

Their "attempts" are like emptying a swimming pool with a tea spoon. Warhammer 3 was a stand alone title and was built on an archaic version of the escape engine. It should be built on the same engine as Three Kingdoms at least. But it's for CA that they have supporters like you who appreciate being charged top dollar for "attempts" at fixes.

>>718380227
>escape
*warscape

I WANT A FULLY FLESHED OUT RELIGION SYSTEM FOR THE EMPIRE
I WANT A FULL REWORK FOR THE LIZARDMEN THAT INCLUDES SPAWNING POOLS AS THEIR RECRUITMENT METHOD
I WANT THE BORDER PRINCES AND THE SOUTHERN REALMS
I WANT APOPHAS AND THE KHEMRIC TITAN
I WANT GORFANG ROTGUT
I WANT GHARK IRONSKIN
I WANT YIN-YIN

>>718379554
i'm too scared of using creamapi. what if these niggers brick my whole account?

>>718381032
Steam doesn’t give a shit
The DLC is already put on your pc with the updates, all you’re paying for is an unlock. If they don’t want me pirating it then they should waste my disk space.

>>718377813
Stellaris is good if you accept that the base game + DLCs are more of a sci-fi sandbox wish fulfillment simulator moreso than a 4X (not that it lacks 4X elements), and the goal of the game is to break it over your knee as quickly as possible. I'm not saying that's a bad thing as the game's basically a sci-fi trope moshpit and you'll find something to love in it, but the only way you'll be pressed for a real challenge is playing on extreme modifiers or using mods which change balancing/add extra autistic challenges/crises to the endgame.

>>718381174
i know that already, i'm still too scared

>>718380227
It would have probably broken comparability with the old factions and games if they did that.

>>718379387
That's also probably because Lizardmen have been completely dogshit since launch.

Is it the only game where the devs outright said they couldn't fix the game? Siege beta doesn't seem to take care of the Pathfinding and gate bug

>sorry guyz no Nagash until we are in deep deep shit.
>3 slavs try to fix the game while the rest works on 40k war (good luck with the current engine line of sight system)

They keep trying to polish this turd using the least amount of resources possible. This game has been a disaster since launch and nothing will ever change that. 2 had been going so well, shame.

>>718371050
>anon-friend.
Go back to your containment thread you disgusting freak.

>>718380581
I WANT A DARK ELF DREADLORD GF THAT LOVES ME

>>718381338
Sieges are fundamentally unfixable but the thing is sieges have ALWAYS been shit. These games simply break down when you add complex geometry and pathfinding the units need to handle. The times when sieges weren't shit is when the geometry was heavily simplified.

>>718381603
Honestly I don't want Nagash if he's coming with End Times shit. Pimp coat Nagash or nothing.

Beastmen bloodgrounds settlement icons have been busted for at least 6 months now and still fucking nothing has been done about it.

>>718381785
no-no

>>718372142
>porn RTS

what would a real porn RTS look like?

>>718382143
Norsca has been bugged since launch.
They are missing the "take prisoners" post-battle option and their armies can't heal.
Obviously they had this in both other games.

>>718382232
probably overworld shit like what with the rape mod for starsector

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>>718372142
>Warmaidens
>Corruption mods for Miao Ying, Katarin, and Morathi
>Muskdeer Princess Knights

>>718371007 (OP)
It's the teenagers who rush through content as fast as they can do they can brag to their friends at school the next day.

>>718377395
>literal who 1 and 2

no hobgoblin khanate, no araby, no dogs of war or estalia.
It's criminal that we got fake china built for 3.

>>718382485
i like fake chyna

it just doesn't feel very good or cohesive

>>718382532
I feel like they really need some monsters for flavor.
If they had chink ogres that'd really push them over the edge into being flavorful I think.
Or some kind of monstrous ox as large cavalry/for chariots.
Also it's so fucking sad that they were so sanitized, evil cruel China would be so cool

they ruined nurgle for me
launch nurgle was fine

I will forever be mad that we've gotten the:
Dogshit release
Dogshit ROC
Immortal Empires took a fucking year
Shadows of change
One DLC a year
Faggot ass chink pandering faction full of gay shit
Faggot ass bear faction full of gay bears
Won't get any cool new factions like Khuresh because CA threw all of the warhammer devs away or onto fucking hyenas join the ack
The ten kajillion dollars warhammer has given to the company all squandered by fucking hyenas
Dogshit siege maps with tiny roads that units can't pathfind or even fit through
Nonsense placement of defenses
Every single unit picking ladders instead of walking through the gates

>>718382715
what happen?

>Get the base game
>Start playing the tutorial with Prince Yuri
>get ass kicked in one of the maps
oh :(

>>718382750
redid plague mechanics among other things but plagues were fine and i had fun with them

>>718382649
what the fuck is a longma, what the fuck is a crowman? the terracotta stuff is pretty neat as a theme, should have gone more into that direction. artillery, terracotta/jade mosters/infantry and peasants with a canibalize skill

>>718382824
longma balls

>>718378043
If you can beat a single endgame stack with lightning strike then the amount of AI stacks doesn't matter because you can take them all in one turn, it just takes longer.

>>718382856
GOTTEM

>>718371007 (OP)
>>Constant updates

>>718382232
https://www.nexusmods.com/totalwarwarhammer3/mods/22

>CA says for years (I believe since WH2's DLC cycle) that the 100th LL will be someone really special
>Will it be Nagash? Will it be Thanquol?
>No it's uhhhh Gorbad Ironclaw. Or maybe it's Arbaal. Or Golgfag. Skulltaker maybe? We didn't really think too hard about it so we'll just put a gag in the trailer about how they're all the 100th lord cause they're all coming out at the same time. Please understand

>>718381254
Liggers are fun in battles but their campaign is boring as fuck. Muh geomantic web

>>718381240
lmfao nothing will happen

>>718371007 (OP)
>>Constant updates

>>718383869
Itza is a fucking great campaign.

>>718384229
That is still mostly due to Blastmaster Kroak though.

>>718383152
What do you even do with Nagash? They've barley touched in the undead in general, I honestly think they don't give a fuck.

It’s time for Age of Sigmar TW

>>718382741
How about retreating enemies walking inside of the city instead of away from it? Did you forget that or was it fixed?

>>718384485
rumors think tomb kings and vampire hybrids instead of fixing the shit races

>>718376730
Marienburg is noob trap. You explore yourself to too many enemies for it to be worth it in early game. Your better off destroying Feastus or Vlad as soon as you unify capital province.

>>718371007 (OP)
you're right we should all give CA more money. right now.

>>718381174
steam couldnt care less about it
only possible scenario in which they take action is that someone reports you for having achievements from a product you don't own and even that is highly unlikely

>>718384684
>mwf i see a not italian

>>718384882 meant for >>718381032 oopsie

>>718371007 (OP)
>reintroduces bugs from the first two games because it was developed on a fork of an old version
>changes things for the worse to be visually distinct from the previous games
>increasing the price of DLC while reducing the quality
>not addressing long standing issues

Yeah man, hard to understand. Really puzzling why people don't want to keep pumping in money into something the company really does not care about. It was their golden goose and they managed to kill it.

>>718384882
SAM exists too
It would be impossible to prove you pirated the DLC instead of using an achievement unlocker, which valve also doesn’t give 2 shits about

>>718371902
>he doesn't DOOM

>>718373129
All they need to do is allow you to position archers behind soldiers on the wall at this point. They've successfully got rid of buttladders, so really it's just making archers more viable in defence and fixing pathfinding in settlement.

Playing the Sea Frog (French) in Lustria is the most fun I’ve had with the game since Grimgor. Cavalry is the most engaging part of the battles and Brets have the best cav in the game.

>>718384623
It's time for hot coals up your ass.

Nothing would bring me greater joy than to see CA crash and burn.

>>718386971
really? not even ea, ubisoft, blizzard or square enix being raped to death?

>>718387074
Nah, CA have done more damage to me. You go in expecting all those guys to be massive assholes from the get go.

>>718384485
>>718384727

>>718386971
Nothing would beat fatshark's death

I WANT BLOOD DRAGONS GIVE ME BLOOD DRAGONS I WANT A BLOOD DRAGON LL PLEASE PLEASE

TOTAL GREENSKIN DEATH
TOTAL RAT DEATH
TOTAL HERETIC DEATH
TOTAL VAMPIRE DEATH
TOTAL WUTELGI DEATH

>>718371007 (OP)
They never did vampires right, added randies instead of the real characters.
they never did sieges correctly and it destroyed the game.
the main menu runs like shit.
lizard men are still outdated.

>Bretonnians
>Put a farm and windmill in every minor province
Is it really that easy?

>>718387837
i second-agree that, yes-yes

>>718388085
Meant minor settlement, sorry. I’m posting at 70mph down a highway.

>>718371007 (OP)
It for some reason feels worse than 2 or its not as addicting. Its kinda annoying if that makes sense. its the fucking sieges and how annoying the AI is.

>>718388225
It seems like a lot of people didn't like the vortex campaign but I sure as hell loved it a lot more than the realm of chaos campaign.

I've played Warhammer 2 for a few hours, is there any reason to move to WH3?
I remember prior to 3's launch a big source of hype was that we're finally going to get good sieges but reading this thread and others it seems like they need fixing again.
What's wrong with the sieges in 3 exactly? In 2 the siege battles are just too simplistic and the AI doesn't really do anything as the defender. Combined with the fact that you're going to be fighting dozens if not hundreds of siege battles over the course of a campaign it becomes dull from the lack of challenge real fast.

>>718371007 (OP)
and here we are. people defending cunts who sold races for as much as fucking games as good developes.

>>718388296
that's an easy feat, nobody likes realm of chaos campaign

>>718371007 (OP)
this shit is waht literally killed total war series after Rome two made a coffin for it. Everything that Total was ever was is now gone replaced with retardation and zero IQ gameplay.

>>718371007 (OP)
>Three games worth of content in one game
Only if you have bought three games
Baseline WH3 is just chinks, russkies and chaos in an awful narrative campaign

>>718388336
>What's wrong with the sieges in 3 exactly?
haven't played 3 but i heard the AI acts super retarded. not that they were very smart in 2
>get a gyro or a dragon
>fly to the edge of the screen and on top of the wall
>click on the other end of hte wall
>click "drop bomb" 10 times
>300 kills

>>718388336
It's exactly the same shit, the sieges are just boring to play and plagued by glitches, most of the time if you're the defenders it's better to get out in a field battle where you can cheese your way to victory.
>>718388463
this, 3 is just a standalone expansion
>>718388085
many such cases "you have so many choices" but only one is viable, this game is the definition of quantity over quality

>>718382232
Presumably something over the shoulder/hybrid like Kingdom Under Fire was.

>>718371007 (OP)
cant tell if iits a nomenee for a fattest bait of 2025 or OP is this retarded. Its the same as calling Ubisoft a company who cares about its players.

>>718371007 (OP)
It's not like CA is doing anything else (that they've announced) so yeah total war fans are begging for more DLC because that's all there is on the Horizon (that's been announced).

But when you raise prices and lower the amount of content in a DLC and then leave long standing bugs in the game for half a year. People are going to complain, unless you guzzle cum like OP.

VOLOUND! MY BOY ! YOU HERE?!

>>718388583
>quantity over quality
not for battles for battles all you need to do is just buy most costly shit and win automatically.

>>718388468
The game really was ready for the dwarveb air force. The Gyrocopters added in that DLC just broke the game, even after all the nerfs. But this is also a game where a strong caster lord can just solo whole armies if you cheese the AI just right.

>>718371007 (OP)
Man, load times have made me pick up reading again

>>718386458
Fuck your trashy game design

>>718373534
I memberberries

>>718388608
I loved this game! I played this back in the day and had an awakening when playing the dark elves...

>>718388085
yep and watch the gold (ecu) flow

I am still upset that they have not released Southern Realm/The Dogs of War DLC to fulfill my fantasy Conquistador autism.

>>718388336
Loading times are way shorter, more factions, better diplomacy, it's where all the modders moved to. The first year was a disaster but there's no reason to play 2 anymore now.

>>718371007 (OP)
>Three games worth of content in one game
Yeah, if you pay for it all

>>718371007 (OP)
I want Total War 40K already

>hammer and anvil over and over again
>barebones settlement management
>boring skill trees
I'll never understand the "people" creaming themselves over muh unit variety. Every factions has swordsmen/spearmen/ranged units, some have gunpowder ranged units and some bulky monsters. They all look different but they do the exact same job across the factions.

Magic is cool, being able to turn the tide of the battles in real time is nice and all, but the different magic schools feel pretty same-y. Also most factions are limited to certain magic schools so it's not like you can combo your race's strength with a certain magic school, you just use the spells the devs have assigned to your faction

>>718378313
No matter what they tweak with sieges they'll always be shitty to play because all the maps were already designed as tight corridors which suck ass to try and squeeze units down

>>718391818
>contempt
>disgust
>hatred
All things I feel for CA and you want even more games from them? They can't even make decent games for their actual niche, never mind branching out.

>>718372142
>No porn mods
What is Azazels realm?
What is Miao/Kat/Morathi/Alarielle corruption?
Shit is actually pretty cash. Shame you have to go to trannycord to set them right.

>>718392184
if anything they should be tighter, buildings should be destructable by artillery and fire, residents should be on the streets and trowing ikkit-claw-tails at attackers

>>718388336
Legitimately worth it just for the loading times. They're fucking painful in WH2

>>718383869
I'm kind of sick of campaign gimmicks that break the game and faction if you even minimally bother to try and use them optimally. They only really got it right with Chorfs

>>718371007 (OP)
I only play the historic total war games. Fuck this garbo.

>>718392450
Probably but the way the game is structured now you'd have to roll up with even more overwhelming force than you do now to have a chance at keeping up with the AIs pace.
I'm imaging the hell of trying to wipe out Hell Pit before chaos starts knocking on your door with Kislev in a world where sieges work like they actually 'should'. First they have to figure out destructible trees

>>718371007 (OP)
After how bad TW3 went the only people left are complete content-gremlins who just want more THINGS

>>718383107
Holy fuck the dedication.

>>718392715
>destructible trees
30 year old games can do that. they don't have to figure out shit

>>718382232
EratohoK with real time battles.

>>718377813
no it sucks because all the giantess and vore mods i want to install are depreciated

>>718371823
Sieges are genuinely fundamentally not that bad, especially by 3.
It's only a problem because of the hundreds if not thousands of hours people have put into these games doing them again and again and again and again.

>>718390349
The TEB mod is unironically better than CA would do if they tried it themselves.

>>718379387
Volkmar partakes in the tomb king book hunt

how do you play Snitch? everyone just gets scared and run away
except the enemy

>>718393909
More gutter runners

>>718394031
so theres no such thing as a frontline really with skaven?
you just hit and run?

>>718394326
skavenslaves are a great frontline

>>718394326
Exactly, you have menace below if you need a temporary frontline

I do like that it basically reinvented Chaos Dwarfs and finally made them a popular faction after 30 years of being barely anything

>>718394413
>0 stats
>routs the second enemy makes contact
I'm tired of this meme.

>>718394528
>still better than the french
lmao

>>718394528
You dont need stats. They temporarily hault an enemy units movment so you can shoot at them for longer.
You dont need to hold them there all day.

>>718374510
>only 3 months
The gate bug has been in since the release of wh3 which makes attacking cities through gates impossible if you use a single ladder.

>>718394807
Might as well get stormvermin who can actually hold the line

>>718394816
>since the release of wh3
The gate bug has existed since 2.

>>718394905
i ain't gonna ratatata at the enemy if that means shooting stormvermin

>>718394995
Good thing you can't force your ranged units to ignore friendly fire, your stormvermin are never getting shot

do you guys auto resolve everything?
the battles sound cool on paper but I always get bored of playing them.

>>718395117
you can turn off friendly fire? seems a bit overpowered for a lot of factions

>>718395209
Exactly, if there's even a 1% chance your ranged units might hit a skavenslave they won't shoot

>>718395349
i'm pretty sure i shot lots of friendly rats. are you trying to gaslight me?

>>718391818
No one can even make a modern Armageddon/Epic 40k game.

>>718395450
Try to shoot through them with ratling guns and you will quickly learn to not bring a frontline

>>718395128
The battles are the only reason I play these games.

>>718395450
He is talking bs.
Friendly units can block line of sight preventing them of shooting. They really dont care about FF

>>718371007 (OP)
The fundamentals are still hot garbage. 10 or so years and the AI still can't manage even the most basic city battles

>>718395780
low T tranime faggot

>>718383107
is there a clothed version?

>>718395780
>Astragoth helping out an ork laborer

>>718395780
I'll bite because the tranime and frog combo is a sure way to introduce a shitty take: the enemy ai itself is inconsequential when I just want big fantasy armies clashing. What matters tho is making sieges much less cancerous than they currently are

>>718383107
Can somebody post it, I don't want to make a nexus account.

>>718371007 (OP)
WH2 was more fun to play.

>>718396475
Imrik was so much fun. Such a brutally bullshit start i loved it.

>>718374390
>>718378898
sega not CA did this

>>718396346
they all get a hot bitch body and armor designed by a 14 years old. aka, horny slut wear armor. which varies from good to bad, demons and beastwomen get a futa version. faces are ai-slop. i liked to use the beastwomen, but the last update completetly fucked it. author is a chink

>>718396687
The start is the best part of any WH game. I've started dozens of Karl-Franz campaigns and never finished a single one.

>>718371007 (OP)
>make a game in a setting with a billion gorillion characters and units
>people want those characters and units
>anon surprisedpikachu.jpg
>>718386486
You can do that though. Put them on the inward side of the walls then tell them to fire at an enemy on the outside and they'll turn around.

>>718391992
>ignoring flying units
>ignoring summons
>thinking hammer and anvil still works in w3
lol

>>718392427
>all the porn mods are about a woman getting fucked by everything that moves
>not a single porn mod about (you) fucking them
>not one mod about confederating another faction by marrying them
>no pregnancy mechanics
Total war porn mods seem to be made exclusively by cucks.

>>718396816
>slut wear armor
more like no armor.
tits and crotch exposed.

>>718397086
as i said, slut wear armor

>>718396936
low T basedboy

>>718396936
Hammer and anvil DOES still work and most enemies don’t have summons on tap. All flying unit are ranged unit bait before they land and cavalry bait after. If you have neither in your roster, then your melee frontline is probably enough of a threat to massacre the flying units.

>>718397056
You can (and should) play as Azazel.

>>718388336
>What's wrong with the sieges in 3 exactly?
lots of unit pathing jank, especially once you get ladders on the walls
the AI will do everything in their power to hold the walls, the entire rest of the settlement doesn't even matter just send more dudes to the walls even if the player has completely taken them with 19 great weapon chosen, strangely they will do more multilayered strategy in dwarf settlements but I haven't seen this behavior anywhere else
the weird gate interaction where the AI opens the gate to attack units trying to breach it and some of your units naturally attack back and go further into the settlement but you can't actually order the unit to go further into the settlement because the gate is technically unbreached and if the AI decides to close the gate then half of your unit is stuck inside and half outside, also while the gate is open you can't attack it

>>718388336
the maps
they are just way too big and the focus is kinda on street battles instead of holding the walls
only the AI isnt capable of street battles really and its also just really annoying and unfun
unironically wh1 & wh2 sieges were much more fun

>>718398125
>Azazel
You mean the azazel mod that has this event?

>op glazing CA of all fucking companies
Is one of their shitty paypig dlcs around the corner or something? Wasn't expecting to see unironic shilling for a company as shitty as CA today

>>718388608
I will never forgive Worst Korea for what they did to this franchise.

>>718399805
>Pimp gettin attached to his bitches
Rookie mistake

>>718395827
>no argument
Your tears are delicious

Honestly after 60 hours in TW1, 160 hours in TW2, 35 hours in Three Kingdoms and 70 hours in Rome 2 I'm just sick and tired of the engine. All of the battles across all of the games basically feel the same. I tried getting into a Chaos Dwarf campaign so I could go for a ranged army, but the first like 40 turns of the campaign were spamming hobgoblins so I could keep up with the AI who get as many armies as they bloody well like. It's just kind of boring until you can consistently recruit the late game units

does warhammer 3 still have annoying beasts spawning all over the map? I was playing warhammer 1 recently and it was fun but the endless hordes of beastmen popping up got annoying

>>718402081
they do spawn, but far and between, aren't initially hostile and are easy to deal with

>>718402081
Beatmen are a nega-threat, their AI basically doesn’t exist and the worst they do is destroy some minor settlements. Same with savage ork tribes.

>>718402274
>>718402827
nice, will have to give it a try then

>>718401296
>has bitch
>give her to another man for free, so you can watch him fuck her
>not a cuck
lol

>>718402827
>>718402274
Aww...
I was hoping to regularly have my land ravaged by futa beast women.

>>718404937
beastman ai is completely braindead unfortunately, the only faction that does less is the changeling

>>718396816
Is there a version for WH2?

>>718405035
>>718404937
There are mods to make factions stronger.
Evil Tide, Unnatural Selection, and more mods about beastmemes to make them stronger.

>>718405972
just checked, yes. also, i haven't been on nexus for ages, the layout is completely fucked up. what kinda retard aproves of this mess?

>>718391137
>>718392471
>loading times are shorter
Surely that cannot be the case, IE with its gigantic map has faster turn times than ME? I still play Vortex a lot because I like the smaller scope, turn times can be sub 5 seconds so it's nice for just blazing through a quick campaign

The AI stinks. Don't even the remember the last time I didn't auto a battle.

also way too many hills/mountains/forest maps.

I miss chaos corruption turning the neighbouring sea province into blood
at least I think that's what it did in WH1. Was hoping Chorf corruption would have something similar with seas becoming polluted and shitty.

Goddamn I tried to play as Settra and Tomb Kings suck so much shit now its unreal. I can't do SHIT against Skarbrand.

>>718371007 (OP)
>oh look my units forgot their orders for literally no reason again
>oh look my lord got stuck in a gatehouse yet again
>oh look my ranged units charged into melee again because one entity out of 120 is engaged 100 meters away from the rest
maybe they should make sure the game actually works before adding more content

>>718378468
Why does the guy on the left look so bad?

>>718410297
he's a n**-g*rman

>>718409695
It's the no AP until lategame units faction up against the super heavy armor faction
Reminds me of trying to kill the dwarves in WH2 early on as Arkhan the blacked, it was fuckign miserable

>>718403897
>for free
pretty sure you are getting tangible rewards from most of these events, so...Bud don't worry, i get it.
It ain't easy

Me turn 1 as Grimgor trying to reach Kholek to kill him for his trait before someone else does

>>718411292
Tamurkhan is a faggot

>>718371007 (OP)
No Lizardmen, no buy.

>>718396341
>it doesn't matter if it's shit so long as the fantasy action figures clash on screen
This is why history fans say that Creative Assembly want to forget about them and focus on fantasy, the focus for fantasy fans requires a much lower standard of systems refinement.

>>718407195
>The AI stinks. Don't even the remember the last time I didn't auto a battle.
It's fucked up that there has been mod after mod across so many games showing that it isn't too hard to add baseline improvements to the AI, yet the devs still haven't introduced any actual upgrades to it. Just pure laziness when even basic tweaks can make a difference in challenge.

>>718411336
>endless beasts that run through everything
>shit exploding everywhere
>mega fat fuck himself has a giant toad that goes wherever it wants and has 10000000 hp
I LOOOOOVE FIGHTING TAMURKHAN
OH THERE HE IS AGAIN, WITH A FULL STACK AGAIN

>>718412664
Legendary lords and heroes just endlessly respawning after spending like 3 turns wounded is the worst fucking shit
Just let me kill the faggots for good

>>718414296
Valkia, Vlad, and Tamurkhan are the worst about this shit. Vlad at least makes Empire babies seethe. Or use to.

>>718414296
there's a mod for you, friend. "Permanent Death of Immortality"

>>718388410
I like the realm of chaos campaign for the factions that came later and don’t have to do the chaos realms. The campaigns are tighter and have better victory conditions.