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Did we get one? Mines arriving in the mail in a week. im excited.

It looks kino.

very organic thread

saar pls redeem the game

why do they look like mini arcade sticks?

>>718377291
same reason the controller has no grips, it's aesthetic over function. 8bitdo is for hipsters; gamesir is the chinese pad for actual players.

>>718377229 (OP)
nah, my pro 2 and ultimate 2c are working perfectly fine. I don't see any huge upgrades in this one.

>>718377229 (OP)
How the hell are you even supposed to use those sticks?

>>718379031
You just kinda pinch them like you're about to gently rotate a jewel thief's lockpick set. They're tiny, yeah, but surprisingly responsive once you get used to the feel. Not great for marathon sessions, though - feels more like a novelty to flex on your shelf than a serious controller for sweating ranked.

>>718377291
>arcade sticks
All north American arcade cabinets used bat-top sticks for 30 years.

i think i want them. i have tiny hands. I'm gonna sell my Ultimate 2C before I get them though.

>>718377229 (OP)
I hate the gay nintendo buttons. I just want non shit xinput gamepad with xbox buttons.

its not yet available in my country

>>718379353
They're swappable

My Pro 2 still works fine so I'm not buying a new one yet. I've had to use contact cleaner a few times, but it's still going.

Why did they get rid of removable batteries?

>>718377229 (OP)
I pre-ordered one last week actually. But I got the white version. Still not sure if it was the right choice as the PlayStation themed one is pretty nice too.

>>718377229 (OP)
I will when it comes out in October

>>718377291
It's a free add-on

My Mobapad HuBen 2 is arriving tomorrow, so no I won't get one of those

>>718377291
Aesthetics because these are analog sticks, not digital. You're not going to use analog sticks for fighting games or shmups, and it's very awkward to use the way you'd use an arcade stick, and there's less grip and too much height for the thumb to use it like a normal analog stick, so basically it's just dumb shit like when they released their first mouse, something that looks neat and works like fucking dogshit

>>718379353
It has XInput and you can swap the buttons they're attached magnetically.

>>718379353
Can't you just not look at the fucking gamepad while you're playing?
Is touchtyping something you can't do either?

Gonna swap my buttons with the other caps as soon as I get mine

Looks kino

>>718382976
I need to like the controller to buy it
retarded shill

Still happy with my ultimate 2c.

>>718377229 (OP)
>>718383039
That's impractical, especially for its intended genre.

>>718383148
That's why 8BitDo says they did it just for fun

https://www.8bitdo.com/pro3/

>>718383078
the dpad is unsuitable for 2d games

>>718383954
Mine is fine. I don't play fighting games THOUGH.

>>718383954
>>718383989
Apparently the flat surface for the dpad in the pro3 helps with that

>>718383954
When's the controller that copies the NG Pocket mini-stick for a dpad?

>>718377229 (OP)
Are those analog sticks any sort of comfortable? Looks gimmicky as shit.

>>718383989
it's bad for anything 2d, it's only suitable for menu navigation.

>>718384313
They're fun with an actual arcade controller but not as a replacement for gamepad sticks

>>718377229 (OP)
Stop buying 8Shitdo, you fucking retards.
Buy the official controllers.
If you want controllers for specific use, such as fighting games, then look for Hori or something like that. A Japanese guy won an important championship last year with a Hori fighting commander.
Stop buying Chinese junk.

>>718385618
This. 8bitdo are shelf pieces, made to look nice next to your Funko pops and amiibos

>>718385618
>Stop buying [relatively good chinese trash]
>Buy the [bottom of the barrel chinese trash sold at a premium because it's "official"]
How about no faget

>>718381132
If you mean the one on the left, I have both and think that one's nicer

8bitdo is pretty based.

Sent from my S23U
Capcha: KKK4V
Saying: why are we watching Kaiju #8 playing with chainsaws.

>>718385618
You mean the official controllers that still end up drifting because the big three are STILL too fucking cheap to use better joysticks?
If you want a controller for fighting games, you should be buying an arcade stick or a hitbox, not using a normal fucking controller.

>>718386862
Gays and lesbians play fighting games. Real straight men okay racing games.

>>718377229 (OP)
Damn, it has reddit candy joysticks? Count me in

I like my sn30 but really wish I got a controller with grips whenever I play 3d games. Might pick this one up as an upgrade if there’s any left when I get more disposable cash.

I don't know what this board has against 8bitdo. I'm legit surprised at the high quality the hardware has.

>>718387007
popular thing bad

>>718377229 (OP)
Was really hyped for Pro3 to replace my DS4 because it feels mushy after a decade of hard work.
But holy shit they crammed so many useless shit into Pro3 just to bloat the price, no fucking way I'm paying extra for fucking meme "arcade sticks", magnetic swappable button (for what motherfucking reason?), and I don't even use back buttons let alone fucking L4 R4 buttons.
Can I get a GOOD quality gamepad but without all that shit? Should I just grab Pro 2 before they stopped making them?
I don't want DualSense (unless it's anniversary edition which is $200 on ebay).

>>718377380
>gamesaar

>>718387334
The price seems reasonable to me as long as everything works as advertised. Fully featured controller with hall effect sticks + docking station for 70 bucks, this is about the price you pay for a basic shit controller from nintendo, sony and microsoft. Of course the problem is if it works as advertised because every controller has some retarded shit.

>>718387306
They're are only popular with actual gaymers. Normie NPCs who only play a half a game a year have no idea with an 8bitdo is

>>718388673
I'm a gamer :-)

>>718388893
You mean GAY'mer

>>718388942
Gamer is written without y though.

>>718389132
and you will always have a Y chromosome you tranny

>>718389327
I don't appreciate the tone.

>>718389327
rent free

>>718377229 (OP)
does it have gyro?

The last 8bitdo i bought had a faulty dpad and honestly i need everyone else to start ripping off nintendos new analog stick whatever they did it feels so nice

>>718387334
Eeeeeh I can live with the bloat desu, it's kind of expected that controllers have little bells and whistles now.

>>718382226
Actually just got it
I don't understand why people would by that 8bitdo nonsense when this shit exists

>>718389643
I'm never going to trust nintendo trannies again on their controller suggestion. Everyone said the switch pro controller is so fucking amazing and it was literally just a generic xbox rip off but more expensive.

>>718384241
They already did, and its my favourite controller.

>>718389521
Yeah but only in Switch mode so you lose the analog triggers.

>>718389521
No. Pretty sure you have gyno though

>>718389807
You wish you fucking faggot. You'd like to have everyone gyno because you want to suck on man tits so bad you little homosexual.

>>718389726
Man im just saying that the sticks on the new one feel good. They feel weirdly soft to move around i cant describe it

>>718389875
Wooooweeeee aren't you a sassy little brat!!! Show us your tits RIGHT NOW

>>718389692
8bitdo pro 2/3 is the only decent third party option if you prefer symmetrical sticks
if you like xbox layout then yeah there's absolutely no reason to go 8bitdo over the many better options

>>718389985
I actually prefer symmetrical sticks but I'm still willing to sacrifice them for a better gamepad

>>718389985
8bitdo software is decent as well. Most chink controllers come with absurdly awful software.

>>718377229 (OP)
My Pro 2 carked it and corrupted it's own firmware. I'll pass, thanks.

>>718377229 (OP)
Not sure. I bought pic related as I am quite the saar enthusiast (and it's fucking great).

>>718390328
Saar aside, this is one of the ugliest controllers I have ever seen in my life. Even putting taste aside I think you could never make an argument that this controller looks good. It's fucking a plain white design and then they added some weird blueish skull imprinted sticks, what the actual fuck? The controller looks like it's overweight.

>>718386494
8bitdoodoo is absolute shit quality, it's over for you marketer.

>>718390537
the ugly blue sticks are some aftermarket thing I've seen on a bunch of controllers over the years, I have no idea what the purpose or appeal is

this is retarded. if the buttons and joystick weren't dog shit then you would have no need to swap them out.

>>718392712
This is a roundabout way of saying "look what a retarded tourist I am that only plays modern games".

>>718389743
>ABCD
what the fuck

>>718392870
That's what the original Neo Geo did, anon.

>>718392860
but i clearly remember playing NES games as a kid with two perfectly smooth shitty red gumballs stuck to my controller.

>>718393041
>but i clearly remember playing NES games as a kid
Should exchange NES with Roblox to make this more believable.

>awful chipset in pro+
>awful chipset in pro 2
>great chipsets in most ultimates
>back to awful chipset in pro 3
why do they insist on making their symmetrical controllers shit
hell at this price point I'd rather buy first party

>>718393210
What is chipset?

>>718377229 (OP)
>integrated battery
I stay with my pro 2, let's hope for pro 4 to improve in the battery aspect

>>718383896
>>718383148
>>718383039
this would be an incredible virtual-on cyber troopers controller

>>718377229 (OP)
No but I have this bad boy on the way.

>>718393847
>what if we made the worst controller of all time even worse
Genius!

>>718393847
This literally looks like a soulless NPC version of the original.

>>718394215
It's completely open source and modular. You can use the buttons from the original controller.

>>718383039
>>718381132
>>718377229 (OP)
Sorry faggots, but 8bitdo is a SNES controller with the convenience of thumbsticks. Slowly morphing it into a DualShock is FUCKING GAY and you NEED TO FUCKING STOP

>>718393267
The processors on the controller that handle and transmit data. 8Bitdo uses some underpowered one with slow and unstable output on their Bluetooth controllers, but ones without Bluetooth in the name are responsive wired or wireless (even over Bluetooth, ironically)
I didn't realize that the Pro 3 out currently is technically Pro 3 Bluetooth, so I guess there's a decent chance of a Pro 3 Wireless with better internals at $50-60 in the coming weeks.

>>718393210
>>718394385
Is this showing the 3 or the 2?

>>718394365
Cones are just necessary for ergonomics, lil bro.

>>718394157
Ignoring your shit taste
>worse
>hall-effect sticks
>open source
>can switch between analog and mechanical triggers
>extra buttons

>>718393847
>>718394537
So what is this and how do I get one that doesn't look like shit from the get go without fiddling with it myself?

>>718394365
I just want a symmetrical layout controllers that werks

>>718394617
It's the GC Ultimate. It's a kit so you have to build it yourself regardless (no soldering required). There's different color options for the shell but I have nostalgia for the purple controller so I went with indigo.

>>718394790
>100 bucks for a controller that looks like shit and you have to put together yourself
So this is what ultimate cuckoldry looks like.

>>718394508
>>718394692
Here, the literal best controller ever made.
Unless you want to play 16 bit.
The thumb sticks are garbage on 8bitdo and what they're for are like bullet hell 16 bit or something.

>>718393847
The gamecube pad is unironically the best controller ever made when you play the (nintendo) game that fits its layout, yet absolutely worst piece of shit imaginable with non-existent ergonomics if you play something else (which is most modern games).

>>718394503
The 3.
It's an improvement over the 2, but it's also the sort of kink that most controllers ironed out years ago.

>>718390537
Congrats, you're beyond retarded.
It's look great btw.
>>718392443
Sticks caps give better grips and keep sticks clean.

>>718394990
The arms are two skinny and end up cramping your hand.PS4 is basically a fixed GC controller.

>>718394617
It has customizable LEDs btw

>>718394965
>high quality controller that you can customize and fix is cuckoldry
Meanwhile snoy and xbox sell controllers even more expensive that break down after a year.

>>718377229 (OP)
I was excited till I saw the polling rate. Miss me with that shit.

>>718394976
There is honestly a third party abomination that tried to copy DS4? Holy fuck, there are really too many humans on this planet.

>>718395098
What is a good polling rate controller? Now I'm paranoid as fuck. I have only a sexbone controller.

>>718381132
The Gameboy one looks kino but they should have included purple or orange arcade sticks instead of the red ones.

I have this thing coming today because it was only $20

>>718395051
Naah. The huge A button with all the other buttons that can be pressed without the removing the finger from A makes all the difference.

>>718395089
It's even more ugly with LEDs on, kek. Even gamesiaars would win the beauty contest next to that thing.

got myself a ultimate 2 last week. im really impressed by it. although i have no clue what i should do with the paddles and l4/r4 buttons. thought about setting the rgb color ring to patchouli color scheme since i got the purple one. only ever used the x360 controller on my pc. also you can just get the wireless one (2.4ghz) and update the firmware so you could use it on the switch, and have official steam support via directinput (have to turn off the controller and then hit 'home' and b at the same time, and doing the same with x just switches it to xinput.

You dont see this kind of hops n shit to go through when deciding which KBM to buy compared to controllers..

>>718395359
yes you fucking do lmao
keyboard switchtards are more autistic than any other peripheral hobbyist

>>718395359
What? Keyboard autism is literally 100 times worse and that's an understatement. There are too many people where their entire personality is their keyboard.

>>718395284
Offset thumbstick needs to die.
Dual Shock sucked until 4 because your thumbs would bump.
DS4 and DS5 got it right but DS5 is worse than the fucking Duke and 4 was peak.

>>718395317
For the single game where that matters which is the only reason the controller still has relevance...

>>718395437
speak for yourself dweeb, I like offset sticks

>>718395495
>I like the thing I happen to be used to.

>>718395493
That's exactly what I said, no? There's arguably much more than 1 game.

>>718395409
>>718395434
>Find any keyboard with N-key rollover
>Any mouse with at least 2 later buttons
>have fun

>>718395357
>have no clue what i should do with the paddles and l4/r4 buttons
Paddles: LB and RB
L4/R4: L3/R3

If your controller has different profiles you can change assign those for each game you currently play. I assigned R4 on select for NightRein that way I can open the map while running.

>>718394990
The button layout is really underrated. The main downside of the original is the lack of extra buttons for modern games which is why I'm excited for the ultimate.

>>718395573
Nah, he is right. There is literally only Smash where a GameCube controller feels objectively better than anything else. Otherwise there is not a single game where there is a difference, mostly because any other gamecube game just has simple traditional controls.

>>718395607
8bitdo keyboard and mouse. That was hard.

>>718395563
>imblying
I've used a litany of different controllers and played on PC with a ds3 controller more than anything else

>>718395782
I like the NES styled kbm they have

>>718395665
Also the triggers. Dual stage triggers are sex and I hope the steam controller 2 keeps them.

>>718395815
Oh God that ps2 controller has seen better days

>>718395891
I use the NES styled numpad that has a calculator in it.

Do you guys have a recommendation for a controller that has a charging stand?

>>718379162
And? 8bitdo is a Chinese company, and Asia mainly uses balltop

>>718395959
top 2 are ps3
the red one I accidentally stepped on while drunk and absolutely munted the right stick
the 360 controller on the bottom is unironically probably older than the average /v/ poster

>>718396038
8bitdo Pro 3

>>718377380
what's the non-chinese pad for actual players?

>>718396075
I can tell by the sticks that you didn't use those xbox 360 pads much.

>>718396135
Gamesir, high quality from india.

>>718396162
I've been using the one on the bottom for quite literally over a decade
the knockoff one is kind of new I guess? came with the 360 I bought a year ago

>>718396038
To play on which? And what's your budget?

>>718395201
Polling rate itself is a meme, and controllers that advertise polling rate are doing it for marketing because it means nothing on its own.
That said, most responsive controllers poll somewhere between 500-2000Hz. Polling rate doesn't truly equal latency, so it's possible for a 125Hz controller to be responsive as well (Gulikit Elves 2 in wired Switch mode, Xbox One, etc.)

Worth noting that consoles and phones/handhelds don't necessarily support the full range of polling rate PC does; it's possible for a 1000Hz controller to lag like hell on a Switch's 125Hz USB polling, but still be responsive over its 500(?)Hz bluetooth.

>>718395201
Just go on https://gamepadla.com/

>>718396382
So is the 8bitdo Pro 3 now good or shit?

>>718395690
I never played Smash, but even N64 classics feel great on it.

>>718396135
They're all chinese as they're all made there.

>>718395815
DS3 is GARBAGE. Thumbs bump together.

>>718396661
>even
The worst controller you can use for N64 games is the original N64 controller. Everything else feels much superior.

>>718396704
t. fat handed pig

>>718396623
Looks okay on Xinput with the dongle. https://gamepadla.com/8bitdo-pro-3.html

>>718379031
You don't, they're novelty accessories that only exist to justify the high price tag.

>>718396776
Retard take. Size of hands doesn't affect thumb bumping.

>>718396819
Why is bluetooth always shit compared to dongle? Why was this meme technology even made?

>>718396934
post hand

>>718396623
Shit for its price. Latency and jitter are the focus. Button jitter's high enough for variable frame timing, stick latency is high on Switch modes. Won't bother you if you aren't playing precision platformers or games with 1f links, but it's not a compromise that should exist at $70 these days either.

>>718396937
It's just unoptimized or shit antenna. Bluetooth on Dualsense is actually decent and reliable (unlike it's dpad or it's dogshit sticks).
https://gamepadla.com/sony-dualsense.html

>>718397101
I only play on PC so I guess I'm good. Though the controller is not yet sold in europe.

>>718397275
You can get it on Ali now tho.
Or wait for October.

>>718377380
retard

>>718397376
The controller exists up to 15 bucks cheaper on Ali. How high is the chance I'm going to get scammed if I buy on Ali?

>>718387334
As an 8bitdo Ultimate owner the dock is worth the extra expense. And the swappable buttons are nice to make it universal to PC and Switch labeling if nothing else. The extra sticks and buttons seem do seem like cheap gimmick addons though.

>>718397594
Just check the seller.

>>718377229 (OP)
How does it compare with the GOAT right now? Did they improve the dpad?

>>718397738
I wish the cable was detachable but it's hard to complain when it's 11eurobucks on Temu. And it's real fucking fast as well.

>>718397738
Why does it have a gay rainbow strip?

>>718397738
Whoops, wrong image.

>>718397992
Non-branded brand.
The real problem is the no reason shitty DS d pad

>>718396937
Bluetooth was primarily designed for low power. To be light on phone and earbud batteries from 25 years ago. 2.5G wireless on the other hand is performance first and primary used in devices that are plugged in or assumed to always have ready access to an outlet. Bluetooth is constantly being improved, but it’s still something of a jury-rigged standard.

>>718397024
He's not wrong, whether you have thin 2" thumbs or fat 3" ones your thumbs shouldn't extend past the inner rim of the stick caps regardless. DS1-3 all have the sticks close enough together for thumbs to touch, DS4 spaces them further and Dualsense even further to prevent that. The different stick cap design from DS4 forward also helps, thumbs tend to slide inward over time on convex stick caps.

>>718397738
>that center and home not being perfectly centered from the middle
Holy shit, literally unusable.

>>718395284
I have one of those and I really like it.
It's a bit light compared to most controllers but honestly that's not a big issue for me. I haven't tried out their software though.

>>718398059
>Problem

It's the reason its the goat. Don't knock it till you try it.
It beats the heck out of the 8bitdo dpad and rivals my buffalo SNES pad

>>718398401
Sell me on it.

>>718398401
Its me or your controllers look kinda nasty?

>>718398552
It's 10 bucks on temu just give it a try.

>>718398250
I think you guys are just fat

>>718398608
>just buy some shit because it's cheap
If there is nothing positive to say about it except that it's cheap then I'm good.

I don't get the distaste for asymmetrical controllers.
Is it just autism?

>>718398773
I hated asymmetrical controllers for decades, until I started liking them out of nowhere a month ago.

>>718398743
It's the best value entry controller at this price. It's real fast, has two back buttons, hall effect sticks. It just works.
https://gamepadla.com/gamesir-tegenaria-lite.html

>>718398625
I don't see any gap between the thumbs at 0:04 and 0:05 anon, this looks like my exact experience

>>718398883
>It's real fast
What this even supposed to mean? How can a controller be fast? Do you mean responsive?

>>718398773
Probably Snoy babies.
Truth is both layouts are good as long as the controller shape works with it.

>>718398891
right thumb is below the left thumb
they made no contact and the movement was not interrupted

>>718398931
Yep. High polling rate and quite responsive.

>>718398962
>right thumb is below the left thumb
No shit they don't touch if you do that.

>>718398625
I see you conveniently placed your thumbs far to the outside on the convex stick just to prove an unrealistic point.

>>718398773
I play a lot of 2d games so having the dpad somewhere comfortable helps. If you have me an Xbox controller I’d still try to use the crappy one they have underneath the left stick.

>>718399037
it's natural movement man
you've still yet to post hand

>>718399056
I placed my thumbs the way I place them when I use a controller
you also are not beating the fat allegation

>>718399092
Xbox One and Series controllers have a good dpad, unlike the 360.

>>718398962
Thumbs touch and that's with him placing his thumbs far to the outside on the sticks. What a retard.

>>718398867
I grew up with the Ps1 and Ps2, but the first time I used a 360 controller... It didn't take me long at all to get used to it.

>>718398947
Yeah, that's reasonable. I'd have no problems switching back to a symmetrical layout as long as the controller was ergonomically sound.

>>718399145
what a 300lb blob you are

>>718399124
You push away from your hand toward the stick when you use it, meaning thumbs naturally slip inward. Especially if you're actually playing a game.
Plus, your thumbs touched anyway retard.

>>718398625
You can feel the lack of anti-friction rings. Simply painful to look at.

>>718399217
>let me tell you how you move your hands
thanks doc

>>718399192
We're talking about your thumbs hitting, idiot.
>Is this the famous SNOY people always talk about?

>>718399223
>anti-friction rings
I still can't believe third party controllers surpassed official controllers.

>>718398552
I won't.

1. It's wired.
2. It's $20 so it will probably break soon
3. I'm waiting for a wireless version now that I got this.


Only get it if you need something with a nice dpad that feels like the ds4. That and I do not like the spacing of the abxy on 8bitdo pro controllers.

Again. Wait for the wireless one. I don't recommend this unless you have a couple of bucks lying around.
>>718398591
Yeah I don't clean them.
>>718398883
>>718398743
Also he's probably bullshitting about the hall effects. I have the kkpr3 controller with real hall effects. These have octagonal registration on the pad tester while my kkpro3 is a full circle.

The sticks are not hall effects or are shitty hall effects.

Don't get it for 3d games.

>>718399261
It's mechanics not agency, dipshit.

>>718398401
>shit covered controller
>the game sir

>>718398773
They feel equal to me until I have to do something on the d-pad while moving with the left stick. I'd rather claw grip on symmetrical than reach across with the other thumb on asymmetrical.

>>718399290
I don't even play my ps3

>>718399353
ah gotcha
>let me tell you the mechanics of the human body
thanks sports doc

>>718399327
How is the dpad? Shill said the dpad is amazing.

>>718399327
>Also he's probably bullshitting about the hall effects. I have the kkpr3 controller with real hall effects. These have octagonal registration on the pad tester while my kkpro3 is a full circle.
>The sticks are not hall effects or are shitty hall effects.
That's just programmed circularity, it has nothing to do with Hall Effect nor the latter's quality.
Also the Tegenaria sticks are in circular mode by default.
https://hardwaretester.com/gamepad
The kk3pro has shit latency btw.
https://gamepadla.com/gulikit-kk3-max-kingkong-3-ns39.html

>>718399327
Circularity has absolutely nothing to do with potentiometer, hall effect, or TMR. It's entirely down to how the controller is programmed to process the stick input. Most controllers that have an algorithm to force perfect circularity also have an input to switch to the standard raw input, not sure if KK3 Pro is one of those.

>>718399315
That's because some 3rd parties are actually trying now.

>>718399438
I can see your thumbs start off farther apart since you placed them on the outer rims, then as you spin them they start slipping and converging together. The fact they touch seems to be the only thing keeping them from further slipping into each other.
You've completely proven my point. Also. what sort of faggot are you that your nails appear manicured?

I ultimately boughatened the and 8bitdo, but I also had the Gamesaar and the Easysmx on my list, and eventually I'll probably buy another controller just to sate my curiosity and to have a backup.
I hear a lot about Gamesir but never about the easysmx, does anyone have any experience with them? Also I like how close it is to easysex

>>718399815
you are massively overanalyzing the way I use a controller
>your nails appear manicured?
and this just tells me you're actually retarded
my nails look like shit lmao, I bite them 24/7
maybe you should get your eyes checked

>>718399443
Dpad is ds4 tier but matte.

Again . You want a robust dpad, good, quick, it's precise. And got $20. Get it.

But wait for a wireless version. The cord gets annoying it's the kind that gets tangled quickly.

>>718399653
>>718399616
bro who cares. Post your controllers or stfu

>>718399902
EasySMX stuff is all pretty cheaply made. On the budget end the $10-15 stuff is about comparable to something like Gamesir Nova Lite, above that I don't see any reason to bother with them over other brands.

>>718399989
DS4 dpad is ok but don't see the hype.

>>718399989
>Post your controllers or stfu
Already did but here's for (You) again nigganon

>>718400623
Guite the sir collection, my indian friend.

>>718400623
Does G7 Pro add anything meaningful over Cyclone 2?

>>718377229 (OP)
8bitdo is the bestest

Is there a single controller for heterosexual males?

>>718400046
I see, so at the lower end no reason to bother over the saar and and at the higher end it might just be better to save an extra 20 dollars to go for a Victrix Gambit or a Gulikit KK3 Max?

>>718400874
Their other mouse with the charging dock is a million times better.

>>718400878
Xbox

>>718400878
DS1

>>718401061
DS1 has literally the worst ergonomics I have ever experienced in a controller.

>>718377229 (OP)
clown nose having controller

>be 5"7 manlet
>need a ds3 replacement
>look into xbox style controllers because even the ds3 is too small for my manlet size
>get a gamesaar cyclone 2
>it's also too small
I just want a gamepad that's not huge like the steam controller and bigger than the dualshock 3

>>718401157
If you were straight you wouldn't care about that.

8bitdo is the only controller maker left that doesn't go for retarded gaymer designs for 12 year olds so they're the only viable choice for me.

>>718401385
Have fun ruining your hands with the retarded vertical grips.

>>718400680
Namaste my nigga.
>>718400764
More responsive, better charging dock, L4/R4 buttons, more dpad options, optic face buttons, easier trigger lock system, better grip material. That's about it.

>>718401292
Don't care. I bought a DS1 for 5 bucks a few years ago and the controller looks fine at first glance and then you hold it and it doesn't feel at all like it was molded for human hands. Old controllers are all a meme, we have it really good now.

>>718401689
What's wrong with old controllers? I can use a N64 controller with my 3 hands just fine.

>>718396275
PC and any price as long as it's reasonable

>>718401749
Your prehensile dick is not a hand, filthy fucking dolphin bastard fuck you I hope a jap grinds you down into a tuna can.

>>718377229 (OP)
>>718381132

My only gripe with the Pro controller is that the triggers don't have enough resistance. Bad for racing games and makes modulating trigger input harder.

>>718401849
Wireless, need additional inputs, need gyro?

>>718377291
For people who want to emulate old game

>>718402003
There really is no controller for everyone with autistic problems like this. Even if a controller theoretically offers everything then people complain about artificial price bloat for features they won't use.

Only thing important about hand size is that your hand feels right for your dick. Imagine have a small dick and large hand. Or large dick and baby hand. The dick and hand must be compatible.

They should've included the ability to swap in an octagonal gate if they really wanted to do the whole customizable controller thing.

>>718402141
The Xbox controller has much better triggers in this regard. Triggers for manly men with strong hands.

>>718402352
>octagonal gate
That's only useful for emulation.

>>718400925
That's a fair assessment. I didn't notice till looking just now, but X05 (similar to Nova Lite) has worse responsiveness on non-xinput modes and usually isn't saving you any cash, I should probably stop recommending it as an alternative.
That said even Nova Lite feels a bit awkward to recommend these days, unless you want the cheapest thing possible and don't like Tegenaria Lite being hardwired.

>>718402669
But depending on the game they suck too, you don't want long distance and heavy triggers for pretty much anything that doesn't have analog trigger input. So it's not even the player but the game everything depends on.

>>718381132
>gamecube colors doesn't have a yellow analog stick
One fucking job

>>718402851
For once Nintendo did the right thing by using digital triggers.

>>718387334
Get a DS5

Not until someone takes it apart. I want to see what is under the D-Pad

>>718403004
Don't know why you pulled nintendo out of your ass. This is something that has been solved by third party controllers with a switch that changes triggers to analog or digital on demand.

I'm 280 pounds and never had my thumbs bump into each other on playstation controllers how fucking large are you guys wtf

What chinkpad has the best Dpad for fighting games? The Hori looks okay but I'd like a controller I can use for other games too

>>718403231
Thumb is most unaffected by fat from the entire hand so everyone here needs to shut the fuck up already about this shit.

>>718403526
The ideal fighting game controller is extremely subjective.

>>718402937
but it does

I read the entire thread and now I'm more confused about what controller to get than before entering.

>>718404080
Any controller with hall effect or TMR sticks is fine.

>>718399989
Just for you, anon. Kind of sorted, but I'd move the Dualsense and IINE two spots right if I had to use them exclusively since they have the worst d-pads (especially the IINE) outside of the garbage bin.

>>718403526
Gulikit Elves 2, Saturn pad with a prominent pivot. I've heard votes of confidence from fightan autists on Tegenaria Lite being an improved DS4, but can't vouch personally.
I think most mech d-pads are fine too, but many people seem to not like how hard you have to press for diagonals on them, even if they typically otherwise have clean inputs.

>>718403974
It looks so much better but I get what he means. No one is going to use those anal beads over the normal sticks.

>>718402851
>>718403004
Well, I mean that it why 8bitdo had the digital shoulder options on the Pro 3.

>>718402937
Why would it

>>718404154
8bitdo Pro 3 is solid because of the TMR sticks and hall effect triggers, but they did increase the price $20 because of it.

Note that the back buttons on the Pro 2 and 3 are useless for mapping to because of the limits of Xinput. They are only for turbo or rebinds with the 8bitdo software. They aren't really extra buttons.

>>718404330
>that z button placement

>>718404434
To add, I moved on from the 8bitdo Pro 2 to the normal Xbox controller because it has stiffer triggers.

Is hall effect not a meme any longer? I heard they have other problems than stick drift.

>>718377229 (OP)
straight up downgroade over the pro2 refresh.
>no more removable battery pack that can be swapped with rechargable battries
>no more xinput mode on bluetooth only on 2.4ghz dongle
why would you get this shit?
get a pro2 refresh or go with one of the other chink gamepad creators.

>>718404525
>normal Xbox controller
Have fun playing racing games, because that's going to drift.

>>718404483
Still better than the Z button on the normal Gamecube controller

>>718404434
>Note that the back buttons on the Pro 2 and 3 are useless for mapping to because of the limits of Xinput
Can you elaborate? If use an input reader what will they output if I press the back buttons?

>>718404579
Some specific early hall effect and TMR sticks had sensors with either shitty output or that weren't shielded from magnetic interference. The majority are fine for both otherwise.

>>718404604
>>no more removable battery pack that can be swapped with rechargable battries
now that's a deal breaker that was the one reason i got the pro 2, are they going to stop selling the pro 2 if so i may need to buy a spare?.

>>718404669
Giga autistic opinion. It's literally just R1 button.

>>718404604
>no more removable battery pack that can be swapped with rechargable battries
I gave up on it, only Microsoft does that for some reason.

>>718404763
they did a refresh that has hall effect triggers and sticks.
its still selling well i dont think theyre getting rid of it.
im thinking twice about buying 8bitdo stuff in the future though.
im eyeing gulikit and gamesir stuff. not sure though.

>>718404156
how prominent is the pivot on the gulikit? the 8bitdo m30 has one but it's barely there. if you press down your thumb on the center the whole dpad pushes down while barely slipping sideways, almost like a giant button.

>>718404763
>>718404904
Why do you need it when there is a charging dock? Till the battery breaks the controller is going to look like a 50 year old prostitute.

>>718404997
because i swapped out the battery pack on my pro 2 with eneloops and 8x battery life.

>>718404997
>Why do you need it
Because I want controllers to last as long as possible. I might as well buy first party controllers with potentiometers if I didn't care about that.

>>718405140
Again it has charging dock. The pad will be always ready to go.

>>718405216
its not the same anon.

>>718404772
No it's like Microsoft's crap ass bumpers but even shittier because it barely even protrudes from the shell.

>>718405216
until the battery becomes bigger than the controller itself

>>718405140
Why do you need a detachable battery pack when you can easily open the controller and replace the battery with just a screwdriver and pry tool?
It's not like the Switch 2 Pro controller that's fucking glued together.

>>718405274
I used a xbox one s controller for years with eneloops and changing the batteries and charging them is annyoing as fuck. Now I have mouse and controller with charging dock and there is nothing better than that. It's literally just autism, at least admit it.

>>718405297
After 10 years. Then you open the controller and change the battery it's not difficulty unless you have obese sausages fingers.

>>718405272
>>718405414
Replied to wrong person.

>>718395815
>that red controller

>>718405449
>After 10 years
lol
lmao even

>>718377229 (OP)
anyone else with an sn30pro+ able to corroborate that the sticks start to disintegrate. every time I use it now, I'll get a layer of worn off plastic dusted under my thumb and over the face of the controller

Do hall effect sticks last semi permanently?

>>718405586
Check acidity levels. Maybe you have cancer.

I literally just have an average xbox controller but now this thread made me want to buy a fancy one despite I just know it won't make any games better.

>>718395815
DS3 has a better D-Pad than DS4 and DualSense I still use it for platformers. It was a pain in the ass to use on PC before but at least it has proper plug and play drivers now.

What's a good dpad for precision platformers? I only have a dualshock 4 and I don't like that dpad.

>>718405835
It's more about autism than there really being a best so no one can really tell you.

people are sleeping on this controller

>>718405835
Saturn

>>718405678
I'm not vomiting on my controller. I think the sticks are decaying from sweat or age because a massive chuck on the right stick broke off during normal use recently.

>>718406192
What did you expect from a Chinese controller?

The only good pad 8bitdo did was the NeoGeo one, because NeoGeo themselves fucked up by not using microswitches.

>>718406228
Literally 100% of game controllers are chinese. I'm fucking tired of this meme.

>>718406239
>microswitches
That shit is plaguing 3rd party controllers.

>>718406228
to work for as long as other chinese controllers

>>718406239
Pretty sure the patent for microswitches only expired in the 2010s.

>>718406317
>plaguing
It's literally superior and comes in any flavor you could possibly want, be it tactile or membrane. Hating on microswitches is literally just being low IQ ignorant retard.

>>718406390
Shouldn't have stopped Neo-Geo from including them on their overpriced controller for their mini-arcade unit.

Do they have a standardized, non-Windows dependent driver setup? That you can get motion control on both bluetooth and 2.4ghz, regardless of mode (except XInput)? I'm annoyed with anything that needs Windows only bullshit utilities to bind extra buttons or the like.

So many of these chinkoid controllers have all these amazing specs on paper, but fall down in practice, some worse than others and people pretending that they're somehow universally better than an official 1st party setup and willing to pay nearly as much for them, can be offputting if there are so many limitations.

Do some people use the very base of their thumb on a ps3 controller, how do they bump?

>>718406540
>universally better than an official 1st party setup
They are.

How's the N64 controller?

>>718404975
Pushing on the center doesn't move it at all. It passes the Contra test as well, with a diagonal only happening if my thumb goes off the edge of the raised +

>>718379162
So? You can't hold them like a proper stick player would (thumb on top, one or two fingers around it) since it's a pad and the right stick is actually blocking the buttons. Even if you wanted to kinda use it like a stick, you can't put it on a flat surface because of the R2 and L2 buttons.
Who is this for?

>>718404975
>if you press down your thumb on the center the whole dpad pushes down while barely slipping sideways, almost like a giant button.
Reminds me of a wireless Logitech PS2 controller I used to have. Much preferred that d-pad over the DualShock 2.

>>718406664
>Contra test
https://youtu.be/0P_90sxJJSE

>>718405586
My old 360 controller is like that. It's perfectly normal for some plastics to disintegrate over time, particularly when in contact with skin oils.
You should replace the stick caps entirely. I don't know exactly what caps fit on there but you can get a 50 pack of Dualsense caps for like 6 bucks on Aliexpress. Maybe ask support if they'd send you some.

Is it even possible to play as Dante in DMC with an asymmetrical controller?

>>718404483
It was made for the Game Boy Player, and the Z button opened the GBP's options menu. It makes sense having it there in that context.

>>718406853
The Contra test itself isn't a gold standard. Nobody's having issues with intentional diagonals on a Saturn d-pad however, so avoiding unintentional ones as well is an added bonus.

>>718406608
No, mr marketing saar I will not redeem.

. It varies between brands but none of them can say.. offer the equivalent haptics and adaptive triggers of DualSense or any of the other features built in, but even some of their inputs seem laggy, or their sticks are carried exclusively on marketing bullshit about "hall effect / TMR" which doesn't magically mean the sensors are any better, it fixes ONE potential problem of drift due to potentiometer degrading over time but cheap hall effect bullshit is still cheap bullshit and worse when you're paying for more it on marketing nonsense. These could be made better ,but so long as its Windows only chinkware with hacked together drivers pretending to be an Xbox360 pad or whatever the fuck to get around some requirement or another. I'd like to see some of these companies make things at parity with first party across the board and then offer new features, but so few of them seem to do that and more of them are now charging more and more for their higher end offerings so its not like its even a big value difference anymore

Contra test? We have reached levels of autism not known to be possible.

I don't care about the name but all gamesirs just look ugly to me.

>>718377229 (OP)
getting the NES one, ps1 is ok but bland and gamcube looks too goofy. nes is the perfect balance.

>>718407317
It's for people who prefer d-pads that you have to press harder to register a diagonal for some reason. That was my DS Lite, and I fucking hated that d-pad.

Why is no one clarifying about what that guy said with the extra buttons. Are all extra buttons, pedals etc just fake buttons that can only be configured to duplicate a button?

I use a custom script for game recording, screenshots and recording audio clips so I want to buy a controller with extra buttons so I can map those functions to those buttons. For that I read the controller input with evtest on Linux so it will only work if the extra buttons have their own unique name and are not just duplicated.

>>718406664
>>718407170
sounds promising. hopefully the libra max comes with that dpad style with multiple dpad tops

>>718407749
some of them can do keyboard bindings and the steam input supported gamepads can now be individually mapped.

>>718407927
>some of them can do keyboard bindings
Can 8bitdo 3 pro be configured with keyboard bindings?

>>718406014
Like the gulikit elves?

>>718407317
Why is it autism to want a controller you actually like using? It's just to identify if your controller easily wiggles back and forth when you're just trying to push in one direction. Some have a cross shaped "cone" below the dpad that makes it really fucking hard to just push down.

>>718408145
Yeah

>>718408181
Back in the day we just played a game we have known all our life and knew how it was supposed to feel and then you can immediately tell if the dpad feels good or like shit.

>>718408051
>8bitdo 3 pro
I don't think so. None of the reviews showed it doing so. the ultimate 2 and pro 2 are supported by steam input though, don't know about the pro 3.

>>718408470
>steam input
What does that mean? If I have to run steam then it's useless to me. Fuck my ass, I never knew until today that third party controller extra buttons are all fake because of outdated controller protocols.

>>718404483
This controller is intended to be used with gameboy/color/gba games.

The Z button is simply to get into the menu options of the gameboy player, and is never otherwise used.

>hands sweat
>Thumbs constantly slip from hipster sticks

>>718408628
>What does that mean?
you don't need to own games on steam to use steam input some games i have on gog wont work with my controller add them as a game on your steam and launch from there and the controller just works if you turn on steam input in the settings.

>>718380834
because it comes with a charging dock.

>>718408628
let's you map unique bindings to the extra buttons instead of just duplicating an already existing button. but it sounds like you are more interested in keyboard bindings for non in-game functions.

>>718382226
>>718389692
>$80 for a fake xbox controller
wow

>>718408778
>>718408896
How does steam input see the fake buttons as their own unique button if at kernel level the signal the fake button sends is just some other button on the controller?

>>718387334
ultimate 2c is $20 wired, $30 wireless.

Isn't there a gigachad here on linux that owns one of those controllers with extra buttons and can quickly go into evtest and tell me if the output of the extra buttons is unique?

>>718409091
>asymmetric
Sorry but I'm straight.

>>718409008
>How does steam input see the fake buttons as their own unique button if at kernel level the signal the fake button sends is just some other button on the controller?
fuck if i know it just works.

>>718409154
sure you are jason

>>718409008
Dinput and sdl3.

>>718404156
I'll add my confidence vote on the DS4 being a fightan pad. The only reason I stuck to the DS4 was fighting games and project diva because the dualsense has way too stiff dpad and face buttons to compete, and it works perfectly for both. Also I've been going ham on the sticks on ninja gaiden for months and there's been no degradation whatsoever

>>718409461
Just fuck my shit up. I'm not going to fuck with HiD descriptors. Guess no fancy controller with extra buttons for me.

>>718404434
99% of controllers hav e that issue, but in this case you're incorrect, pro 3 is compatible with steaminput.

>>718387334
>I don't even use back buttons let alone fucking L4 R4 buttons.
You should. They're way better for mapping L3/R3.

Why does steam have the most advanced input handling in the world?

>>718405204
you can swap out the battery pack in the pro 3 with just a screwdriver. it's completely standard with a standard plug, you don't have to solder anything.

>>718405771
the xbox series controller is alright at first, but it's made like shit and starts to fall apart with any use. buttons stick, triggers make awful spring sounds...

>>718406660
good enough to play n64 games. if you're autistic you will find some reason to dislike it, in which case you can get the official Nintendo N64 one.

>>718409008
>if at kernel level the signal the fake button sends is just some other button on the controller
it's not.

What are hall effect triggers?

>>718410019
because they made the Steam Controller and then figured they might as well make useful features for other controllers too, that way people will use Steam more.

Man I'm seeing a video on this 8bitdo """Ultimate""" software and it can't do shit. What controller actually comes with powerful software?

>>718410440
analog triggers that use a hall effect sensor instead of a potentiometer.

>>718410482
define powerful, what the fuck do you need it to do

>>718410440
Triggers with hall effect, so magnet technology.

got a Literally Free noname chinese USB Saturn controller for giggles
my expectations were low, but I can see the delay between the button press and input being sent, and the d-pad has zero pivot and somehow fucking drifts
face button membranes feel fine, but the shape looks annoying to transplant to a different controller layout
d-pad membranes are super short and super soft, I suspect they'd be garbage in any controller
fisher price tier plastic

>>718409817
do you run your scripts with keyboard combinations? just get a controller that can do keyboard macros.

>>718410552
>define powerful, what the fuck do you need it to do
Some guy mentioned being able to map keyboard keys to controller buttons. That would fulfill all my needs, of course only if you can do both keyboard buttons and regular controller buttons at the same time.

>>718406853
Russ demolished this fag in the comments kekAROOO

>>718395815
>afterglow 360 controller
I had one of those. It was a piece of shit but the lights were cool

>>718410482
>>718410664
Gamesir (Cyclone 2, Tarantula Pro, Super Nova)
BigBig Won (Blitz 2 TMR, Blitz 2)
I think Mobapad Huben 2

>>718404686
Nothing by default. You have to use the controller's software and map them as preexisting buttons.

>>718410647
I currently run my script with controller by holding one button and then pressing another but that shit sucks ass because depending on the game the button I use for screenshots for example may fuck with camera focus in some way, it's just annoying as fuck.

I'm still using this controller to this day and it's still useable. Do I get the Switch 2 version or are "3rd party" controllers actually good and comparable to 1st party ones?

>>718403974
I want a yellow left analog stick, not a knob

>>718410905
It depends how deep Nintendo's dicks is in your throat. If it's not too deep third parties should be pretty good.

>>718404330
They're going for Gamecube colors. The right stick should be yellow

>>718410760
I didn't expect to go out of this thread legitimately considering a gamesir but here we are.

>>718409740
What controller is the best chinkmade that mimics a DS4? I don't want to drop 100 bucks on a real DS4

>>718410905
I don't think the Switch 2 version has any meaningful differences, only the chat button. Third part controllers have come a LONG way from the Madcatz days. Some are just as good as first party, better even since they usually have hall effect or tmr sticks

>>718387334
true, all that stuff sounds retarded HOWEVER i really want that digital/analog trigger lock as i play my switch a lot and it would be nice to use the same controller for PC and switch

Am I the only one thinking being able to switch face buttons is kinda sick?

>>718411370
It's useless since no one looks at the buttons while playing.

>>718411090
Yeah, that's how they got me too. Cyclone 2's the overall best of the options and usually cheapest, unless you pick up a pink Super Nova on discount.
Tarantula Pro has the most buttons if you really care, but the controllers have shift layer so it's hard to utilize everything as is I feel.

>>718411370
It's cool if you're a gay man who values aesthetics over actual function. No one is going to swap buttons all the time

>>718410905
Depends what is important to you and what you'll use it regarding. As I mention below, it has extra rear buttons. You can also consider other first party controllers depending on your interest, particularly the DualSense which is the most "advanced" controller at the moment (and the DualSense Edge an enhanced variant of that). If you're happy with your Switch Pro and what you're using it for, you can stick with it for now though.
>>718411113
The Switch 2 version has rear "paddle" buttons as well as the 'chat button" among a few other little upgrades. If you were buying something new and wanted a Switch Pro controller, then I'd get Switch Pro 2 these days.

As far as third parties, I've almost always found them wanting generally, such as bad Windows only driver requirements and config for utilities, things that don't work independently across connections (ie wired vs dongle vs BT) and other issues. Some are better than they used to be that's for sure but the prices are also higher and the "paper specs" vs the "experience of using them" can vary significantly.

Though as an aside, we REALLY need Microsoft to hurry up and update XInput to include gyro, touchpad, mic/speaker features and ideally come out with an Elite S3.

>>718377229 (OP)
did you know 8bitdo and Analogue are companies built by the same person?

>>718410959
Last Nintendo console/handheld I owned were the N64 and DSi.
>>718411113
>>718411624
Did they not improve the triggers, face buttons or sticks?

>>718411931
>improve
Why would they?

>>718411695
I'm not gay so no.

>>718412041
I'm not saying the Switch 1 Pro Controller has bad buttons. I was just wondering if they made them better in any way because I don't wanna pay for something I basically already have.

>>718411931
They did, those were some of the little upgrade to existing features that I mentioned. Just like they also added a 3.5mm audio jack, the whole thing is a bit lighter, and (if using it with a Switch 2 anyway) you can turn it on using the Pro 2 controller. They aren't massive overhauls but they're little bonuses depending.

>>718412219
I'm just saying they have no reason to improve it because people will buy it anyway.

>>718377229 (OP)
You redeem counterfeit gamesaar saar. Gamesaar is the official quality patent only. Authority may be interested.

>>718412287
The controller in the OP is a 8bitdo controller, not gamesir.

>>718395437
>your thumbs would bump
I have big hands and this never happened. What kind of sausage fingers do you have

>>718412219
As I mentioned they're minor upgrades to how they feel, responsiveness and the like. They aren't major "new" features so if you're happy with your original, then stick with it rather than spending the money. The "new" features like the C button, the 3.5mm jack, or especially the rear "paddle buttons" (known as G buttons I think, GR / GL) are bigger reasons to buy if that's something you're missing, but overall its similar to Switch Pro.

Are you planning to use this with a Switch 2? a PC for emulation? For PC games? What do you do with your existing Switch Pro? The question of what to buy and if you want something different, new features etc.. or just an upgrade may depend on if you should stick around or buy something new.

>>718412507
It's incredible how the thread regularly moves back to this fucking retarded topic.

I love playing 2D games with the dpad in the main position and I love playing 3D games with stick in the main position. It fucking sucks that I need two different controllers for this basic need.

>>718410905
just keep using this one.

>>718412697
How can one gauge the ergonomics of a controller when they have pork hams for hands

>>718411624
>Though as an aside, we REALLY need Microsoft to hurry up and update XInput to include gyro, touchpad, mic/speaker features and ideally come out with an Elite S3.
microsoft hasn't used xinput in over 10 years, they use gameinput which includes gyro, touchpads, and basically anything else you could want in a controller in infinite amounts.

>>718412523
I use my Switch Pro controller for games I playton Steam. Last time I checked, Switch 2 Pro Controller isn't natively supported like the Switch 1 Pro (that was a while ago) so I've been holding out. The only thing I had to add onto it were those rubber grips you put on the sticks since they were losing their grip.

>>718413045
Just need Valve to do something about that patent of a modular controller.

I love playing 2D games with the dpad in either position and I love playing 3D games with stick in either position. It fucking sucks that I need a controller with both good sticks and a good d-pad.

>>718377229 (OP)
Buy an ad.

>>718411931
the sticks are the biggest upgrade, they feel great. the shaft of the stick doesn't hit the outside circular gate, instead it's the bottom of the cap that hits a flat, soft surface inside the controller.

>>718413126
Which controllers support gameinput?

>>718413164
You say different things but it's the same problem. Controllers where the dpad is in the main position have vastly superior dpad and controllers that have stick in main position have superior sticks.

>>718413336
The DS4 has the best dpad ever made

>>718413250
all of them since it's a superset of xinput

>>718411624
>such as bad Windows only driver requirements and config for utilities
I switched to linux a few years back and my experience with controllers has been so much better than windows. No need for third party shit to get playstation and switch controllers working

>>718413438
It's not even the best playstation dpad. That goes to Vita.

>>718413520
>Vita
Yeah but that's not a controller

Gamesir controllers all look like they are made for dudebros.

>>718413689
t. 8shitdo paid shill

>>718413468
>No need for third party shit to get playstation and switch controllers working
DualSense works natively on Windows without Steam Input or anything like that as long as the game supports it.

>>718413885
Calm down, rajeet. It was just an observation.

Why is the entire thread just Gamesir and 8bitdo controllers? Does no one buy anything else?

>>718414206
I like Gulikit recently

>>718414206
my "third party" controllers are:
>steam controller
>alpakka
>gamesir tarantula pro
>8bitdo pro 2
>8bitdo pro 3 (arrives today)
>8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless
>8bitdo ultimate bt
>some shitty larger handle dualshock 4 clone with hall effect sticks that never worked wireless, was a dud
my "first party" controllers are:
>dualsense
>dualshock 4
>dualshock 3
>dualshock
>xbone pads
>360 pads

>>718414875
Which do you use?

>>718415389
lately the tarantula pro (I prefer dualshock 4 shape so its basically a modernized one with extra features)
wish it had native steam input support
when games work well with hybrid controls I like to use the steam controller
have yet to really use the alpakka
the 8bitdo ultimates aren't shaped well for my hands
8bitdo pro 2 was my main before the tarantula and has steam input support nowadays, but shape isn't quite as solid for me
dualsense I don't like the shape of at all for some reason
dualshock 4 used to be my favorite
dualshock 3 is too tiny now, as is dualshock
havent used the xbone/360 pads in ages, they lack modern features

>>718377229 (OP)
I was somewhat interested before but thought about going for the arcade stick instead for the ball stick. If this is just some simple addition then I might grab this one both for general use and arcade shit.

>>718415607
>modern features
bloat

>>718415676
gyro, paddles, hair trigger optons, and custom steam input chords/binds are nice
brainlets couldn't into them back when steam controller launched though

>>718415783
No game utilizes this shit so it's pretty useless. Really have to go out of your way to find an usecase. 99% of people in this thread who have such a controller never use that extra shit. Notice how no one here ever talks about how much the extra buttons enriched their game experience.

>>718416112
aiming with a gyro is way better for basically any game
extra buttons to bind annoying controls to hit simulataneously with others or to bind a retarded combination of buttons to is a godsend
there is an intelligence filter to using these features though

>>718416229
>aiming with controller
Intelligence filter indeed.

>>718416301
if you're using a gamepad then yes you're using a controller
look at what thread you're in next time

>>718416301
Pro players use controllers now.

>>718416354
>pro players
Ah yes, the retards that cheat for clout.

>>718395284
It's fine for the price. I have one myself and haven't had any real complaints with it other than it feeling a little chinky in terms of build quality, but I expected it to and it's actually more solid than you'd think.

>>718414206
They're the two biggest third party brands, and also make up the bulk of the past year's releases. Pretty much nothing new to talk about with Flydigi or BigBig Won
very few anons buy Mobapad, and I'm not convinced Huben 2's worth the price tag even if it's actually great
pretty sure nobody buys PXN because I've asked about the P5 8K in several threads unsuccessfully
Gulikit shills went away at some point, but their three releases this month are all great and I won't be surprised if Elves 2 and ES (and anything else they're putting out after?) start showing up more
IINE Retro Pocket interested me, but Gulikit Elves 2 fills the niche better
Shanwan exists if you like keychain controller memes, but most people don't (or already got it out of their systems with 8Bitdo Zero)
can't think of anything else worth considering that stands out over other offerings in their price points

>we
astroturfer language

I got the Cyclone 2 8bitdo bros, I'm sorry. I like the look of 8bitdo more but your software sucks ass.

>>718411104
The Tegenaria Lite uses a dualshock layout and is only $20.

Which is a better Saturn pad between the Gulikit Elves 2 and the 8bitdo M30? They both cost the same, and I already have a dedicated controller for 3D games. This one I'm planning to use mainly for 2D platformers and shmups.

>>718418737
>saturn controller
What is this meme? Saturn face buttons always sucked.

>>718396594
Does this site not have sort by overall rating or am I retarded?

>>718385618
i'd go for that hori 6 button 2 stick ps5 controller but apparently the dpad is trash

>>718418737
retro-bit saturn pro

>>718418737
The only reason I see to get the M30 is if 6 face buttons is non-negotiable or you're offended by the presence of sticks.

>>718418964
The sorting options are unfortunately pretty limited. I'm not a fan of how anything outside the detailed pages for any given controller is presented, sometimes the average latency shown on the full list is using an input mode that's significantly worse than the one you'd actually want to use.

It seems every 6 months the meta shifts. I know just half a year back everyone screamed you need to get the darth vader controller or shit like that and now no one even mentions it.

>>718419134
Supposedly all Hori gamepads are compatible with PC but they don't mention that at all on their website.

>>718419134
The problem with both hori octa models is that neither one comes installed with the latest firmware and you have to download the app to update them.

Xbox 360 controller is the best one, but I can't find a modern variant that replicates the weight and size. My Xbox 360 controller can't be connected to the PC unfortunately, it's a weird model.

>>718421167
What that has usb is not compatible with PC at this point?

>>718421167
>>718421536
>>718421560
they work fine on PC, the D-Pad being trash isn't anything you can fix with a firmware update

>>718414875
8bitdo pro 3 arrived
dpad is clickier than pro 2 for sure
steam input just werks in dinput bt mode on Linux

>>718421560
Nowadays I'm struggling to think of an example.
DS4 was the last one that wasn't natively compatible. 360 Wireless controllers also didn't work wired because their cables were for charging only, which was absolutely bullshit.

>>718421921
>works on linux
glad to hear that

>>718421937
>360 Wireless controllers also didn't work wired because their cables were for charging only,
I remember seething at that years ago.

>>718422410
this is the thing that would make me use it over the tarantula if i can get into the form factor

>>718422479
Wait, gamesir does not work on linux?

>>718377229 (OP)
>Remove optional rechargeable double AA batteries and slot to generic mandatory builtin.
Sounds like a huge downgrade

>>718422994
It's already confirmed changing the battery is an easy screwdriver job.

>>718422553
Haven't tried it but it should work. What anon is referring to is that steam can configure the 8bitdo controllers when they're in d input. Meaning that you can customize the paddles and shit without needing to use their software, so you can do it on a per game basis

>>718423975
But I still need to use steam?

>>718424037
If you want the extra buttons configured outside of their software, yes. Their controllers have x input and d input so you don't need Steam to use them

I don't know if I should get the PS1 colors or Gamecube. What did everyone else here get?

>>718399056
>
Fuck are you talking about? His thumb is basically covering the entire face of the stick with the center of the thumb tips on the center of the stick. You are supposed to, to an extent, use the outer edges of the stick. Have you been curling your thumbs over and gripping with the inside of your fucking knuckle all this time?

>>718422553
it does

>>718383954
Which (cheap) controller is suitable for 2D games?

>>718425164
People highly praised the GameSir Tegenaria in this thread. It's just 15 bucks or something like that and has great dpad, high responsiveness and even hall effect sticks.

>>718413126
but yet they've not released any Xbox (or PC) controllers that use that standard or include any of those features. Series X controller doesn't have gyro etc. This also means that almost anything they license - see the 8bitdo Xbox controllers - doe NOT have Gyro, touchpad etc. As far as I see, they are stuck in the past and everyone else is stuck there to comply with their standards otherwise you would see multiplat games with gyro support if the controllers supported it, or Xbox branded or licensed controllers with those features native.

>>718413141
Steam can support Switch 2 Pro now; I'll check it myself later but I'm pretty sure it does as I read about it in the past. However if all those games you play on Steam(even those without native Switch Pro support and thus you need to use Steam Input.) you're fine feature wise - you can use gyro if you wish, you're not bothered by the lack of analogue triggers etc. then by all means stick with your Switch Pro. The Switch Pro 2 will be an upgrade, but if you want different features I'd look at stuff like the DualSense / Edge (which has a different layout and extra features) potentially XboxSeries / Elite S2 but it will lack gyro et al, and maybe some 3rd parties but at least I've had more frustration with some of them. Certain games, like Ghost of Tsushima or Death Stranding for instance, have an extra benefit with a DualSense in that they use the touchpads, gyro, speaker and other features that, while the game can "get around" without, its nice if you have it, but not a reason to buy in and of itself exclusively. Switch Pro 2 will be a nice step up from the original given the back buttons, but its an expensive one.

>>718413468
>>718421921
The problem seems to come down to features for me in Linux. Getting Linux to say.. have all the DualSense functions capable would be nice but lately without fucky (sometimes proprietary, like DualSenseX) drivers it wasn't as good. Maybe its better now

>>718425990
>have all the DualSense functions capable would be nice
sony shit is natively in the kernel, ain't it?
not that I use my dualsense much

>>718424191
PS1 would make more sense considering the layout, but GameCube colors are a bit more unique. Depends.

>>718423252
ok, so is there a dedicated battery charger for it?

>>718424191
I'm still on the fence about getting one at all, but if I do, it'll 100% be the gamecube colors

>>718426114
I'll need to check recently. I knew some basic stuff was built in more or less, but I didn't think that
>highest level haptics
>adaptive triggers
>proper use of mic and/or speaker
>touchpad
>gyro
>on both BT and USB
was all working, especially independent of something like Steam. Also atop that
>Ability to upgrade firmware, at least running the Win firmware updater and Snoy tool via Proton/Wine.
>DualSense Edge extra button/feature rebinding
The latter seems to work on Steam at least, but many games that have native support for the regular DualSense fuck up on Edge detection and compatibility sometimes.

>>718423252
can it still take AA batteries?

>>718426301
It comes with a docking station. I think that's the main point of it even.

>>718426374
>>Ability to upgrade firmware, at least running the Win firmware updater and Snoy tool via Proton/Wine.
maybe need the HIDRAW env var for Proton to expose it to that prefix
>DualSense Edge extra button/feature rebinding
think steam input does this now

>>718426432
I don't think so. The main point of the Pro 3 is the docking station and AA batteries wouldn't work with it. If someone doesn't want it primarily for the docking station then there is genuinely no point to getting it in my opinion.

No I mean a charger for the battery, not the controller. So I can just swap batteries when the controller dies and keep on playing wirelessly.

You know, the whole advantage of using rechargable AAs

>>718424653
His thumb is not covering the entire stick retard, the center of the thumb is on the outer rim, jesus you fucking blind or autistic fucks.

>>718426672
Don't know. Just don't get it if you don't care about the docking station. It's as simple as that.

>>718377229 (OP)
I told myseld in not buying more controllers because im pretty sure Steam Controller 2 comes out any day now.

>>718426495
Steam Input can do the latter as I said. Speaking of SteamInput though, one thing that's a bit annoying I wish it COULD do
>Dual Joycon motion/gyro inputs
I know it can emulate L or R, but not both. This is the reason that say, Switch emulators typically had to use a fucky custom driver for SDL to expose both motion/gyro being used at the same time, while supporting both JoyCons (or for that matter, JoyCon2s) at the same time. Yuzu's devs got into it early thankfully and I think hardly anyone would see it done if it wasn't for that. Ryujinx's never did for the mainline, but the Greemdev fork eventually implemented it which is a significant move forward. Would be nice if it could be native supported in Linux or at least a SteamInput variable.

I thought of trying to make some sort of multiple inputs exercise game for PC but at the moment its a real bitch to be able to get that kind of support for multi gyro.

>>718426605
That's a shame. I don't give a shit about the dock but I might still grab one for the Gamecube looking one. I have the older Pro 2 before they made them with hall effect sticks so it'll be an actual upgrade

>>718426935
i swear there was some patchnote about dual joycons recently too but never used em on pc

>>718427064
For Steam? Linux kernel? Or something else?

I hate how the GameCube color bait that has been going on in the last couple of years has been working on me too well.

>>718427194
for steam

>>718377229 (OP)
>8bitdo
stop shilling your trash
literal dogshit controllers
everyone who gets one does nothing but talk about their issues with them

>>718427431
Ah. If they did it thats neat. I'll have to go look - it used to only allow you to pick either Joycon L motion or Joycon R; I made some requests but it never went anywhere months ago - maybe it came around.

>>718427495
>issues
Like what

>>718377229 (OP)
No thanks, I'm still sticking with GAMESIR NOVA LITE

>>718423252
But AA is more standard than the whatever it uses now. It was also easier to swap batteries. Now internal charging is mandatory.

>>718428148
Just don't get it if you don't care about the docking station. Am I the only non retard here that sees that the pro 3 is literally only for people that care about having a docking station?

>>718428275
it went to TMRs and has 2 more buttons and a hair trigger slider

>>718428413
So barely anything that matters. Imagine getting FOMO over these shit features.

>>718428554
more features and improvements on top of charging dock
seems good to me

>>718428613
Yeah but if you don't care about charging dock then don't buy it, what's so hard to understand. It's so obviously the main feature. People that keep asking about MUH AA BATTERIES don't want to use the charging dock so obviously it's nothing for them but they keep asking MUH AA BATTERIES

>>718377229 (OP)
Ha. Funny timing. I just bought this one for PC fighting games like an hour ago and I've never heard of this brand in general before today. Can't wait to fuck around with leverless.

>>718425164
>membrane
Elves 2, Tegenaria Lite, M30
>mechanical
Direwolf 3, probably Gulikit ES or Gamesir Nova 2 Lite

Tegenaria Lite's by far the cheapest you'll get a decent d-pad for if you don't mind being a cordcuck (how long is the cable on it, anyway?)

>>718428841
I knew about 8Bitdo's arcade stick, but I had no idea they made a leverless.

>>718429325
I remember not too long ago it was cordchads now they call us cordcucks. Times have changed.

WHY IS IT SO MOTHERFUCKING DIFFICULT TO JUST FIND A DECENT DPAD??

I just asked chatgpt if you can get steam input without steam client. Is it true? This would change everything for me.

>>718429741
Because you don't want to play games, just complain about dpad.

>>718429741
Most companies don't care
Even the ones that get it right usually do it by accident
And then there's usually no QC put towards d-pads so a controller that has a flawless d-pad for one person might spit accidental diagonals or have no pivot or some other bizarre issue for someone else

>>718377380
The pro 2 is good though, the pro 3 just sucks

>>718430281
pro 3 is just improved pro 2 it seems, though?

>>718428841
Alright so I can get behind P1 and P3 but P4 being a kidney bean button is dumb if you ask me.

>>718424191
gamecubes more distinct but ps1 with the extra super famicom buttons is cool since they stopped selling the pro models with the sfc colors as a base option

>>718430281
Pro 2 (wired), right?

>>718427890
Nta but I have the wireless ultimate and it fucking sucked. Stick drift in just 2 months!
For 60 bucks

>>718430462
Gamecube with famicom buttons is pretty cool too, especially since it brings back the much needed yellow to make gamecube controller complete.

>>718430515
Correct

>>718430520
How can it have stick drift when it has gigachad hall effect?

>>718430653
Ultimate was a weird release and only included Gulikit hall effect on the Bluetooth version
Wired and Wireless still used Alps potentiometers

>>718430805
Potentiometer cucks just have no right to complain about stick drift. Especially not on third party controllers since everyone and their mother now has hall effect.

>>718377229 (OP)
I'm happy with the Ultimate 2. The Pro 3 just seems like the Ultimate 2 but with PS style sticks which I don't hate but not enough reason to buy a new controller.

>>718431065
Why is the dongle inside the laptop? Doesn't Ultimate 2 come with a charging dock?

>>718429325
Everyone is getting into the leverless

>>718431168
Yes but having the charger connected to the laptop is inconvenient and gets in the way for me so I prefer to keep the charger elsewhere.

>>718431395
>$90
Is there any reason to buy over Haute42 beyond aesthetic or brandfagging?

Haha dongle is funny word.

>>718431663
There is quite a variety of Haute42 for this same price point. It's true. The C16 by Haute is a solid runner up along with the M Ultra. The M ultra is on sale BTW if anyone is in the market. But I am a sucker for solid audible clicks. And I might fuck around with the wireless mode on 8bitdo. And admittedly, I am a boomer who used to play with the nes controllers when I was a kid so they hit their mark with a slight bit of nostalgia, though that aspect is the least important metric to me.

Yeah what sold me is the wireless mode, clicks, and price point. To me, I just am looking to dip my feet in the water then I'll pick up the Victrix Pro Fs-12 when I can justify it.