Thread 718396242

Forced difficulty doesn't equal fun. Dark Souls should have an easy mode.

its okay to bad at games, but its not okay to ruin others fun because of it

>tutorial
Be glad you had one cuz shit like Burger Time was swim or fucking die

dark souls games are not difficult

>>718396410
Difficulty options do not harm anybody. You can still play the default mode for the intended experience. I can pick easy and play it my way.
>you can simply not play
No, I want to play it. There is more to games than just combat. I am attracted to the lore, story, exploration aspects. I should be allowed to play it too but forced difficulty gets on the way. This is bad game design.

>>718396242 (OP)
>Forced difficulty
New buzzword dropped lets fucking GOOOOOOOOOOO

>>718396242 (OP)
magic and summons already exist

>>718396673
Just use cheats like the other scrublords

>>718396242 (OP)
It should, and it should be the current difficulty renamed.
Normal mode removes summons.

this bait isn't even funny, just a waste of time for everyone
and the idiots here still fell for it, amazing

>>718396242 (OP)
Every single FROM Souls game has an easy mode. They don't CALL it "easy mode" but it always exists.

>>718396673
>No, I want to play it.
No, you want to watch it. If you wanted to play it you would actually play it as it is intended to be played. When a boss takes you 3 hours to beat, the euphoria you feel at the victory screen is unmatched.
>but I don't have time
Then don't play it. How you manage your time is your decision but decisions have consequences.

>>718396242 (OP)
you are not entitled to enjoy every game
no one is forcing anything on you, just turn 360 degrees and walk away to a different game

it ain't 2011-2016 anymore motherfucker

>>718396242 (OP)
Dark Souls is already easy though. Especially if you do what works instead of bashing your head on a wall for hours until you get lucky.

>>718398014
DaS has the drake sword or black knight halberd for becoming OP in the early game (at least for a while).
But what did DS2 have to turn it into "easy mode"? Like you start with one(1) Estus Flask, it's probably the most unforgiving Souls game by far (for the first ~5-10 hours).

difficulty options don't have to be a menu toggle
summoning is a difficulty toggle
shields are a difficulty toggle
it is entirely possibly to over level for content
exploration is rewards with shit that makes everything die faster

if gang raping a boss with multiple other players isn't easy enough for you then you are simply not the target audience and need to deal with it

>>718398750
I agree with you that DS2 probably has the least obvious path to easy mode, because it's mostly just little things that add up together.
>enemies despawn after 15 kills so eventually runbacks become a non factor
>infinite lifegems, which you can carry 99 of at a time
>soul memory demands that you spend your souls at all times, so there's no point in not levelling up (we're talking about normal players, not pvp enthusiasts)
>Dragonrider not only -can- walk off his arena, but -wants to-, for free souls
DS2's issue is that it's super slow/clunky/nonresponsive in a way that DS1 never was, and that's the main driver for the early game difficulty.
Things like that.

>>718396242 (OP)
I make game, I make all relevant design choices for the game. You make game, you make all relevant design choices for the game. Simple as

>>718398818
The problem is; the majority of people are retarded. They'll get dunked on by a part of the game and assume it's the games fault. They won't analyze what went wrong or what they could do to improve the odds. FROM are in a semi-unique position because of their reputation as being hard but fair, so gamers have the idea forced into their tiny brains that you could mitigate difficulty with optimal builds.
I think difficulty sliders would actually hurt souls games, not because it would undermine the ME SO HARDCORE crowd, but because Billy Casual would assume he's just not good enough for normal mode instead of strategizing it out.

>>718399868
Yes, if you added difficulty sliders, casuals would use them to beat the game with a +0 weapon, because they can't be bothered to upgrade their equipment, even though that's a vital part of the gameplay experience.

>>718396242 (OP)
the easy mode is summons.

>Dark Souls should have an easy mode
It does, it's called the zweihander, BKS, BKH, BKGS, and gravelord sword. And if you need an easier easy mode to tide you over until you can get one of these, there's the drake sword. Or magic.

And Elden Ring has the old ding-a-ling.

You are not entitled to other people's games. If it has to be dumbed down or changed completely for you to enjoy it, you are not the target audience. Git fukt, tourist faggot, goodbye and good riddance. You are why gatekeeping exists.

Rolling is a disease. Imagine playing as a literal knight in plate armor and deciding that yes, ghost acrobatics are the intended way to play while a shield is "for casuals"

>>718408260
Harsh but valid.

>>718396242 (OP)
Dark Souls is already easy.

>>718396242 (OP)
Why even play video games. Just watch it on youtube since you don't actually want to game.

>>718396242 (OP)
Never ever mess with fromsouls player

>>718396242 (OP)
>forced difficulty
>use firebombs to push to second phase
>lock on and strafe left for entirety of second phase
>maybe have to roll for highly telegraphed jump attack
>can grind to overlevel character for rest of the game
if you dont like grinding you can get good
a game with a win button isnt fun

>>718408260
Do I really need to post the guy in full armor doing acrobatics?

>>718398750
Rasy mode for ds2 is just stocking up on healing gems since they will effectively make you immortal barring egregious misplays

itt disingenuous shitposters pretending they didnt die a thousand times before it got ''easy''. I hate souls fan so goddamn much.

Can we just stop using Dark Souls as a measurement tool for literally anything at all whatsoever?

It's quite literally nothing but a repetitive piece of shit with crap, almost non existent writing barely held together by threads that are the players they allow to just make up their own ideas of what the stories is meant to be in their heads and the whole thing needs wikis to even be understood. There's absolutely no reason any game should be compared to it and their value is to be determined on whether they are close enough to how Dark Souls plays or not.
This is genuinely a mental illness that needs to be squashed.

>>718396673
The only thing that truly gatekeeps is developer intent, community can’t police itself no matter how hard /v/ tries. Casualizing the game opens the floodgates and eventually kills discussion from mass normie dilution. It literally already happened to the souls games because of Elden rings’s assist options.

>>718410151
Historically the most important game of the PS360 gen. Sorry you can't deal with it.

>>718396242 (OP)
nioh games are much more brutal when it comes to hard difficulty walls / skill check bosses. there are gate bosses where if you don't engage with certain mechanics (ki pulse for instance) you simply won't win.
souls bosses are always brute forceable

>>718396242 (OP)
Dark Souls has several easy modes already, you don't need one more
There's so many ways to break the game apart

>>718396242 (OP)
>forcing me to look at menu options for retards
Who is the real villain in this scenario?

>>718410309
you are historically retarded.
you don't even know the history of your own country you dumb fuck.

>>718410507
Your cheeks are red with rage right now.

>>718410507
hes correct and this very thread made to bitch about it is further proof.

>>718410507
It created a whole new genre. No other games have done that in years. Like it or not, Dark Souls is one of the most influential video games of all times. You are stupid.

>>718410151
>This is genuinely a mental illness that needs to be squashed.
I didn't know Hillary Clinton frequented our big gay speakeasy

>>718409880
>immortal
They're slow and pretty shit, unless you're using those radiant ones that you get later in the game
But you can only get so many of the good gems, and the shitty vendor gems (which you'd be buying in lieu of levels) scale terribly.

>>718396242 (OP)
Iudex Gundyr is easy
Vordt is the real tutorial's over boss

>>718398750
DS2 doesn't have easy mode because every single weapon is perfectly viable unlike in 1 and 3.

>>718411008
Lifegems stack. Even just popping two of the weakest ones doubles the passive regen. You can also move (albeit slowly) while using them, unlike the Estus animation which stops you in place and is a commitment to use.

Did we ever get the OG trailer lighting in Dark Souls 2?

>>718408958
That nigger cries after jobbing 1 match and demands people pay him to stream. Faggot cuckold doesn't even use low tiers

>>718396242 (OP)
>difficult
Games are made to be beaten, so you can literally just either take the time to get good at the game or find another game.
Your failure to "git gud" shouldn't change the experience for other people. This is the meme about normalfags infiltrating gaming groups.

>>718409908
I was able to guide my barely-vidya-literate coworker through Dark Souls without a hitch because I coaxed him towards the zweihander for his [mostly] blind playthrough. He had a blast and I had a blast watching him, offering little hints when he got completely lost/turned around/forgot objectives. He never got stuck for more than 30 minutes on a boss - the navigation was a much bigger obstacle for him.

>>718396242 (OP)
Pretty sure Dark Souls III just outright presumes you've already played Dark Souls and Dark Souls II.