Thread 718415842

Contrarian-core thread

>>718415842 (OP)
DaS2 is contrarian core but not for the reason you think. The game was beloved critically and by users at launch.

It wasn’t until midwit video essayist contrarians made their ackshully…..DaS2 is LE BAD slop that the opinions shifted.

>>718415842 (OP)
uhmm, ackshually...
https://youtu.be/1Bk6V-TWg3Y

>>718416083
https://youtu.be/6kCBqWLLBIs
That dude is mentally ill.

>>718415842 (OP)
any “mgs 4 is actually bad” video should qualify

Better than DS1 btw

>>718416245
MGS 4 is complete shit that was only protected because ps3 had no game

>>718416217
being scared of trannies is a mental illness, just like being a tranny is a mental illness.
but it's not a mental illness to think it's weird and gross.

>>718416024
You weren't even alive when 2 came out

>Majula
>No-Man's Wharf
>Doors of Pharros
>Shulva
>Frozen Eleum Loyce
Dark Souls II had incredible atmosphere start-to-finish.
Dark Souls I nails the atmosphere around Firelink and has an interconnected early-game, but gives up on this and falls apart soon after the Painted World.
Critics and fans loved II because they played both entire games.
Casual shitters and Reddit and YouTube eCeleb slurpers grew to hate II because they never really played either game for more than a few hours.

i'm not watching your 12 hour video.
ds2 has shitty graphics but it's still fun and I like it. there's my review.

>>718415842 (OP)
Dark Souls 2 (Peace Be Upon It) is my favorite Souls game alongside Bloodborne and Nioh 2. I don't think it's contrarian to say that, I just value different things.

>>718416403
Every DSII hater ever splurts the same 'I'm a retarded playground IQ nigger' non-retort when confronted.
Still amusing, still true ten years later.

>>718416403
On the contrary, I wasn’t a sperm like you I actually lived through the release. Sorry you grew up on video essays

>>718416024
>The game was beloved ... by users at launch.
No it wasn't. It was roundly criticized for bosses just being dudes in armor, the "non-Euclidean" shit level design, the shit lighting, the shit N64 level graphics everywhere, the constant "'member DS1?" shit, for starting the "Dark Souls is only about how difficult it is" shit, the Soul Level shit, the "I can't climb over this tiny piece of rubble so I need to kill bosses to open this door" shit, the "Set fire to this metal cog and axel to stop poison" shit, the "Torches are completely fucking useless and pointless," shit, the "This castle is completely fucking empty, who the fuck would even live here?" shit, and on, and on.

The game was not "Beloved" except by dumbass games journalists who thought they were jumping on the Dark Souls bandwagon, and a bunch of faggots whose first game was DS2, and faggots who have no standards and taste. It was very divisive when it came out.

>>718415842 (OP)
The thing with Dark Souls 2 is DS3 shows how it's actually a great game. Just like Star Wars, it took the sequel series to show how good the prequel series was. Dark Souls 2's biggest and only major sin is that the world traveling was not as cool or hype or complex as the first half of DS1's was. A sequel should have made a game that doesn't crumble in the second half and is even more complex and BIG. The levels don't flow together in such a hype manner and the fast travel at the start probably doesn't help the sequel.

However, the game isn't butt ugly like DS3 and it handles less shit than DS1. Some speed being added to the game makes caster shenanigans more viable. While somewhat more restrained, the character sidequests are just as interesting in DS1 outside of hype Siegward/Big Hat/Lautrec moments.

DS3 shows Miyazaki isn't infallible. DS2 is a better game than that and he made DS3 after millions upon millions of sales of games and even more budget.

>>718419597
You just spouted a bunch of video essayist garbage. Look at old reviews, no my one single soul gave one single fuck that the scale of heide’s tower of flame and Majula was funky. No one threw a tantrum for how stupid it was that you went up an elevator from earthen peak to iron keep, they made memes about it. It was stupid, but not a big deal.

>>718419597
>no it wasn’t
Surely it would have been reflected in…..anything?

>>718419823
We were much less autistic back than. Better times.

>>718419996
It unironically was. The worst part of dark souls 2 IS the video essay. It is quite literally the progenitor of the genre (regarding the video game industry)

>>718419597
When games aren’t liked, it’s reflected in their sequel’s sales. If dark souls 2 was hated why was dark souls 3 launch the best of the series lmao who would be excited if the last game was shit

>>718419597
>It was roundly criticized for bosses just being dudes in armor
honestly who the fuck cares about this shit
the so called "good bosses" of DS3 are 80% dudes in armor, and the entire first half of the game (aka mostly not dudes in armor) is known for having dogshit forgettable bosses, except for index gundyr which is a dude in armor

> shit level design, the shit lighting, , the constant "'member DS1?" shit, for starting the "Dark Souls is only about how difficult it is" shit,
ds3: the game
> the "Set fire to this metal cog and axel to stop poison" shit,
fight the boss with the poison instead of being a whiny retard. its fun. No wonder people whining about "muh dudes in armor" get completely filtered by a boss that encourages different strategies that is in fact not a dude in armor

>>718416024
>The game was beloved critically and by users at launch.
Lol
>>718420780
>MUH DS3
Obsessed

>>718420298
>If dark souls 2 was hated why was dark souls 3 launch the best of the series
Miyazaki returned and gave closure to Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2 is the lowest selling game of the trilogy

Fallout 3 and Metroid Prime 3 are the ones for me along with Dark Souls 2
Maybe if Prime 4 sucks people will appreciate Prime 3 more

>>718419597
>No it wasn't. It was roundly criticized for bosses just being dudes in armor, the "non-Euclidean" shit level design, the shit lighting, the shit N64 level graphics everywhere, the constant "'member DS1?" shit, for starting the "Dark Souls is only about how difficult it is" shit, the Soul Level shit, the "I can't climb over this tiny piece of rubble so I need to kill bosses to open this door" shit, the "Set fire to this metal cog and axel to stop poison" shit, the "Torches are completely fucking useless and pointless," shit, the "This castle is completely fucking empty, who the fuck would even live here?" shit, and on, and on.
you know people like to go after kojima for meta-irony stuff but nobody is more meta-ironic about video games than fromsoft, this stuff is straight up trolling the player through gameplay mechanics

Kingsfield 4 has the best world design music and atmosphere of ALL fromsoft games
Shadow tower has the best mechanics, combat, hostility and enemy design of ALL fromsoft games
As you can see Fromsoft peaked early thanks to based Naotoshi Zin. Miyazaki is a total hack and fraud, his only editions to the fromsoft formula were the online system and rollspam
3 games into Naotoshi Zins era was KF3, an expansive well designed country spanning journey
3 games into Miyazakis era was Bloodborne, spammy rollslop. Everything was stripped back for rollslop bosses. This is textbook creative bankruptcy
Miyazaki is a complete fraud failure and he has successfully flanderized fromsoft design from inside like the cancerous shitstain he is

>>718419597
>the constant "'member DS1?"
That's DS3, DS2 tried to "continue" or "build upon" DS1.

>>718421287
Casual fags who started with 3 didn’t pick up a game on the third entry because it had “Miyazaki” he didn’t start to be known amongst normalfag consumers really until Sekiro

>>718420298
3 appealed to retards by being entirely about rollspam and removing problematic mechanics like max hp reduction, durability, enemy aggro ranges, bonefires that cant be lit, accidental ng+ing an area

You'll lose your souls...all of them, over and over again...

>>718421993
Skill issue

>>718422851
Post shmup 1ccs

>>718422910
That’s a low skill genre

>>718415842 (OP)
Dark Souls II is more engaging than Dark Souls III and that's not contrarian, it's just a fact. Note that I didn't say it's objectively better. I personally prefer engaging over what most people consider "good", Dark Souls III felt more like "member Dark Souls 1?" and way easier. DS2 at least mostly did its own thing.

>>718415842 (OP)
i think foaming at the mouth when you see das2 mentioned is the contrarian opinion, the game is still very highly rated

>>718423226
>Dark Souls II is more engaging than Dark Souls III
Nah

Dark Souls 2 defenders have a humiliation fetish.
There's no other viable explanation.
I pity them, personally.

>>718423587
Oh how I miss the days when it all it too to be a verified god gamer was to beat shit like this.

>>718415842 (OP)
DaS2 is my favorite
I never understood why someone started the "hate"

>>718415842 (OP)
everything after it was not good

>>718415842 (OP)
contributing to the thread instead of getting bogged down in shit-flinging like everyone else

>>718419597
>bosses just being dudes in armor
Why do retards parrot this like it's a bad thing? All the best souls bosses are guys in armor.
>gwyn
>ornstein & smough
>artorias
>fume knight
>sir alonne
>looking glass knight
>gael
>soul of cinder
>B-BUT MUH VARIETY
Tranny shit. Not a real argument.

>>718427332
All ds2 dudes in armor have the same moveset
>left right left swing
>thrust
And then they spin on their axis like a record

>>718416024
>The game was beloved critically and by users at launch.
This is hilariously wrong. I played it at launch and was floored by how shit it was. The game's texture work was never finished and you can clearly see this in several areas. 3 sucked ass, but it at least had the decency to finish the game's assets before publishing it. DS1 should have remained a one shot.