Thread 718440382

>buy this game
>it's pretty good
>buy a copy of the original NGII for 360
>it's actually better like people keep saying

Why do they keep re-releasing ninja gaiden sigma 2 instead of just actually remaking 2

Ninja gaiden thread

The offical excuse is that they no longer have the source code for the original game because they rewrote it when they made Sigma 2, personally I think the real reason is because there's a ton of bad blood between Team Ninja and Itagaki and they don't want to honor his legacy by treating vanilla 2 as the superior version

>>718440382 (OP)
>team retards are retarded
water is wet

>>718440729
what am i supposed to be angry about here exactly

>>718440729
2 Black mogs this.

inb4 walls of text and itagaki webms

>>718440824
The un-upgraded dragon sword in NGII is stronger than the True Dragon Sword in NG2B

Ninja Gaiden 4 at Gamescom tomorrow. Probably will reveal Yakumo's fourth weapon (we know it's some Gauntlet from Deluxe Order thing).

Its insane that 2 black does not having tracking on running attacks and some of the UTs so they just whiff.
I can't tell if they're just that incompetent or that lacking in fucks to give or perhaps both. That and drip feed spawning a single enemy every 10 seconds after the main mob is killed off is probably the dumbest design choice I've ever seen an action game like this.
>kill everyone
>*10 seconds later*
>but wait theres more! (just one though)
>*does this 3 times*
You just had several enemies on screen theres no reason to do this.

>>718442817
modders fixed most moveset shit, its just incompetence and lack of caring.
the low enemies count is thanks to sigma 2 engine not being to handle 8 fucking enemies throwing explosives every encounter

>>718440382 (OP)
>>it's actually better like people
Lmao
You didn't play past the first two chapters like the rest of them lol

>>718440729
I remember at launch day of NG2B I immediately noticed something was off with the damage, and then I downloaded Xenia to confirm and the difference was noticeable, good thing I never bought it

Ninja Gaiden 2 = Super Smash Bros. Melee

>>718443614
Ninja Gaiden Black = Resident Evil 4
Ninja Gaiden 2 = Resident Evil 5
Ninja Gaiden 3:RE = Resident Evil 6

>>718440382 (OP)
No. I don't play perry/dodge slop.

>>718442759
Please let there be a demo.

>>718443421
OG2 operated on rules that made the game amazing to play and rewarded players who know the rules and understand the game
2S and 2B just throws away those rules in favor of less and tankier enemies, now all those tricks you know are just dependent on RNG instead of player knowledge
they have a fundamental misunderstanding of what made OG2 fun to play

>>718443918
Ninja Gaiden 3 is the best game in the series?

>>718444423
2S at least has the excuse that it was a lackluster port to a console that probably couldn't handle ng2, I mean, the 360 could barely handle it already, imagine the PS3
but all of that could've been fixed in 2B if they focused on fixing the gameplay instead of graphics

>>718440382 (OP)
They hate Itagaki and want to shit on him at any opportunity they get.

>>718444540
Correct.

3RE question. I get how SoB is supposed to work, slide+heavy into enemies. But how are you really meant to work it into combat outside of just baiting enemies into doing grabs? For all the hype RE fans make it, I barely get to use it and watching Videos they barely use it either. Cicada surge is supposed to help and let you use it in any situation, but I don't know if it's my controller but I never can seem to actually get it to work in the middle of combos.

>>718442759
Hopefully the DLC weapon for Ryu is shown tommorow

>>718445368
>outside of just baiting enemies into doing grabs?
Aim for delimbs. It'll make SoB more common.
>I barely get to use it
Are you standing around doing nothing besides waiting? Then that's your problem.
>Cicada surge is supposed to help
Yes
>never can seem to actually get it to work in the middle of combos
Any experienced NG player knows to hold guard at every moment. Learn to do the same because it will make CS more consistent. Only need to input jump at that point.

>>718445368
you can cancel whatever you're doing with cicada surge and counter as long as you're on the ground
just press it when you're about to get hit, the timing is generous and you will see ryu flash with a white aura when you press it
you're probably trying it when you lack meter or doing it too late
anyway, even with cicada surge, SoB is still very inconsistent to trigger
you will encounter a bunch of times where ryu will teleport behind and hit another enemy instead

>>718444129
Game isn't out for 2 months. That's a bit early for a demo.

>>718442759
Momiji, Ayane and Rachel will be revealed tommorow inshallah.

Is that an incendiary shuriken? Oh my God yes! Yes daddy Itagaki! Please keep tanking performance on the intended hardware while you touch one someone's boobs without their consent! I can't wait to buy your NFTs! Please keep cumming all over my face, I love cutscene attacks!

>>718445887
God NG2 is silly sometimes. I don't know who looked at this and went "Yeah that's a reasonable amount of incendiary shurikens"

>>718445843
>That's a bit early for a demo.
They are blowing their load early with all the YTinfluencers. Why make all these waves if not for something to release in-between now and final day?

>>718440382 (OP)
they don't want to admit that the guy they had a rough breakup with made the best version of ninja gaiden so they keep remaking sigma 2 instead

>>718445887
Based explosion-type gameplay

>>718445942
those effects aren't how it actually looks in NG2.
I mean NG2 is still the most explosive game ever, but just saying.

>>718445887
Kek
They do say that

>>718445942
IS ninjas get a lot less accurate while you're in the air just float one up and they won't bother you

>>718446057
It would make more sense if they dropped a demo after Tokyo Game Show.

mfw I just learnt that DOATEC is responsible for the dinosaurs

>>718446446
Perhaps they will. NG4 confirmed to be shown at Gamescom and Xbone showcase. Might as well continue the press tour.

>gamescom trailer
>Ayane's revealed and her boobs are bigger than ever
>this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnyTzIBrS5s

>>718448872
Kino

someone please fix the audio cut glitch in xenia i beg you

2 Black is the definitive version and the retards defending OG2 are selective memory retards who defend massive amounts of bad design just for a more pure combat system.

>>718450456
>pure combat system
That's literally the only thing that matters.

>>718445887
show me on the doll where the incendiary shuriken exploded on you

>>718450559
>Points at every single part of the doll

>>718450543
No, what matters is the game being fun and OG2 has so much TRASH that the slightly inferior combat doesn't fuckjng matter. Im -still- glad every time I play 2S or 2B and I come to a level that used to be full of dogshit sniper fights or whatever and instead I just get to have fun.

>>718440382 (OP)
We can emulate bloodborne at 120fps no issue but 360 emulation still sucks cock and og2 still has that random audio cut bug

>>718450716
>Im -still- glad every time I play 2S
lol

>>718442759
Do you think they will add some nioh reference in ng4?

>>718450716
You are mental

>>718451069
They 2nd boss fight in NG4 looks exactly like some shit out of Nioh.

Is the Black mod for Sigma 2 actually close to OG2? I keep seeing widely varying opinions on it, from not at all alike to 80-90%.

>>718440382 (OP)
>NG2 schizos are now outright lying to start a thread

Have they fixed the sound issue with emulating ninja gaiden 2?

>>718456798
just get a used series s

>>718456905
Id rather not for one game. One game with one last issue to fix to get it running 100%.

>>718456798
No. Gliniak is still rewriting APU. Its not just NG2 that has this issue there are other games that do. Crackdown for example also cuts audio randomly and starts raping ur CPU after lol. I never had issues with NG2 audio cutting off for some reason I played at least 100 hours and audio cut off like 6 times max.

>>718444423
>spamming gt and forward y with talons is what made it fun to play

>>718445368
You don't need to slide into enemies, but it does make it a little easier. Cicada surge takes a little practice, but once it does it's a game changer. It works especially well on those gorilla and snake type enemies, and against cliff on day 8 if you use it on his grabs and don't use steel on bone, you don't have to wait a million years to continue attacking (but with sob it's braindead easy even of UN).

>>718445368
Apparently Steel on Bone was overpowered and too frequent in vanilla 3 but in Razor's Edge they went overboard nerfing it and it straight up never happens ever.

>>718444129
there is but only offline

>>718445887
is this actually how ng2 original is?

>>718445843
>2 months. That's a bit early for a demo.
They gave us Nioh 3 demo a year in advance.

>>718457102
Yes. Disarming gelfs, werewolves, and human with a simple input is my birthright

>>718445887
AND THATS WHY ITS THE GREATEST ACTION GAME EVER

>>718445887
LMAO

>>718445368
https://youtu.be/SU0pG2cW7zQ?si=b2FlypbgWACWfy0l

>>718444423
ng2 enemies are just aggressive punching bags, once you know what to abuse enemies don't defend at all

>>718444423
I'm so glad enemies are aggressive again in NG4. Based Platinum saving yet another franchise.

>>718453942
they are close, but sometimes he makes up his own spawns (it's still enemy spam so don't worry)

>>718440729
The fuck happened to the colors?

>>718458506
>SoB straight up never happens ever.
Wtf are you guys playing? They happen all the time.

>>718462191
Why even have graphics at this point? Just make the game 1D, have the red exclamation mark pop up so I can press a button and feel good about it.

>>718465285
So, rhythm games?

>>718440382 (OP)
>>it's actually better like people keep saying
Yeah, that's the thing, even if there's parts of the game that was rushed, unfun, or unbalanced, 80% of the time the levels and the gameplay are just way better.
I'm glad NG4 is way more like the original 2 and 3RE (it's a mix of the 2 with new mechanics)

Still for me the best version of the game is 2 Black with the white mode, it restore what made ng2 so good while retaining the actually good Sigma 2 fixes

>>718462191
is that a fucking lock on

ligma 2 with the black mod is the way to go

>>718466387
nah, ng2b with the white mod is the way to go

>>718466238
I don't think it is they just show you who's ryu is targeting.

>>718466635
a fucking lock on then
in nj
fucking platards they just cant help themselves
cant wait for the qte finishers

>>718466238
>>718466738
They added an indicator to show what target the soft lock-on is currently on, it's something a lot of NG players have wanted for a long time, and I'm pretty sure you can turn it off

>>718466794
>it's something a lot of NG players have wanted
shitters you mean

>>718466832
JayTB has been making NG content on youtube for over a decade and its definitely better at the game than you

>>718466738
>a fucking lock on then
Absolute monkey nig.

>>718466794
Goated feature if true. I just want to know if I'm really going to FS or if I'm just going to dive straight down like a jackass.

>>718440382 (OP)
>>buy a copy of the original NGII for 360
how did you find a copy?
how do you still have a functioning 360?

>>718466967
maybe on planet retard

ng2b chapter 14 is fucking ridiculous with the white mod and only on hard

You can tell a community has become completely degenerated and purity spiraled when features everyone used to ask for (lock on, real time weapon switch) are now seen as betrayal. NG always should have had those features.

>>718467706
You need to be over 18 to post here.

>>718471041
is that the rule on planet retard, where you come from?

>>718471471
>planet retard
Oh you child. Leave this place while you still can.

>>718471716
>t. native of planet retard

>>718473039
Skill issue

5 more hours?

>>718440382 (OP)
Why the fuck Xenia devs havent completely fixed NG2 on their emulator yet and why the fuck are they such lazy fucks that havent release any update this summer? Even xemu devs are doing better work than these 360 fags.
Also, whatever happened to xbone emulator? That homo dev said it would be ready by summer. I really want to replay NG2, but I dont want to buy another xbox console

>>718474354
Maybe if NG4 blows up there will be more interest in specifically solving the sound bug in NG2.

>>718475303
Yeah, hopefully they arse themselves to fix NG2 on their emulator, if they see that people still care for the NG franchise with NG4 success

So how good are the black mods for the sigma games on PC? Only like 3 posts in here talking about it, would like more detail.
Black mod for Sigma 1 seems to be just visual stuff but black mod for Sigma 2 overhauls the entire game.
Should I be using these mods when I've never played ninja gaiden before?

>>718477902
The problem with the sigma 2 black mod on PC is that it doesn't change all difficulties. Also I don't think it changes the sigma damage output, so the grab damage is still crazy. Otherwise one might consider it the best of both worlds, as the blood is completely back from the original and some sigma 2 changes are welcome for sure. This mod makes the 2 black ue5 sigma 2 remake redundant in my opinion.