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Anonymous No.718445208 >>718445468 >>718445910 >>718445961 >>718447181 >>718447774 >>718449757 >>718449880 >>718449934 >>718451086 >>718451478 >>718452296 >>718452596 >>718452654 >>718452679 >>718453627 >>718458738 >>718458967 >>718458968 >>718458970
Why all modern war games are WW2 shit and we don't get other modern wars like toyota war in videogames?
Anonymous No.718445468 >>718450050 >>718458174
>>718445208 (OP)
Because WW2 was an existential threat for most people involved. When it comes to modern warfare it's almost always border disputes and political ideology clashing when people should just leave each other well enough alone.
Anonymous No.718445718 >>718449749
Honestly it's sad but as of now there are literally zero (0) modern war games. All """modern war games"" are actually "late 90s-early 2000s games"
Anonymous No.718445798 >>718448198 >>718448208 >>718454593 >>718458327
modern warfare is soulless zogbot vs goat fucker slop. War stopped being cool the second the first firearms were invented
Anonymous No.718445910
>>718445208 (OP)
because video games are propaganda and ww2 is used to mythologically justify the current world order
Anonymous No.718445961
>>718445208 (OP)
I thought you were making a shitpost, but apparently this was a real thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War
Anonymous No.718446001 >>718446178 >>718446814 >>718450152
a modern war game would be drones vs drones vs drones vs drones and dying to drones.
Anonymous No.718446178 >>718446803
>>718446001
Or blowing up browns from AC-130's in the middle of the night for 20 years and then leaving when they refuse to learn how to be a civil nation.
Anonymous No.718446803 >>718447062 >>718454554
>>718446178
>they refuse to learn how to be a civil nation
You've got the order wrong. First you arm them and cause instability in the region, and only then you blow them up.
It literally picrel
Anonymous No.718446814
>>718446001
Make Ace of Thunder but with Drones
Anonymous No.718447062 >>718448254 >>718459025
>>718446803
I mean the 50k history before europe says otherwise... but you still aren't wrong.
Ive talked to 3 Africans explaining that life expectancy was 26 at best before the Whiteman. One changed the subject, 2 said God would never allow that.
Indians get even more butthurt.
Anonymous No.718447181 >>718449614 >>718454254
>>718445208 (OP)
I agree OP. I fucking loved beasts of no nation. I'd love a brutal heart of darkness general buttnaked African warlord game.
Anonymous No.718447774 >>718453762
>>718445208 (OP)
The real reason you don't get Battlefield TM doing actual real world wars is because of politics and you have cowards doing NOT Taliban and NOT US and NOT Russian cold war stuff. COWARDS.
Anonymous No.718448198
>>718445798
The pike and shotte era was kino of the highest degree. Its more suited for an RTS game though.
Anonymous No.718448208 >>718450547
>>718445798
You need to play North vs South
Anonymous No.718448254 >>718448424 >>718448826 >>718448940
>>718447062
>life expectancy was 26 at best
I'd ask where you got that number.
Anonymous No.718448424 >>718448547 >>718451832
>>718448254
NTA, but get your numbers from any elders from that region. Dumb cunt.
Anonymous No.718448547 >>718448586
>>718448424
Most of those cultures don't even track time, and when they do, they start claiming the elders are 150 years old.
Anonymous No.718448586
>>718448547
Exactly.
Anonymous No.718448792
Anonymous No.718448826 >>718448940 >>718448982
>>718448254
Anonymous No.718448940 >>718449196 >>718452050
>>718448254
>>718448826

Keep in mind that includes all the children that wouldn't make it past 5
Anonymous No.718448982 >>718449141 >>718449196 >>718451728 >>718452050
>>718448826
This is life expectancy at birth, so it's skewed heavily by infant mortality.
Even in prehistoric times if you lived to age 10 you were extremely likely to live to age 60+. Nobody was dying in droves at age 26.
Anonymous No.718449141 >>718451728
>>718448982
Except wars.
Anonymous No.718449196 >>718450171 >>718454047
>>718448940
>>718448982
True, but its still a useful number for judging a society. Dead kids Im told arent good.
Anonymous No.718449614 >>718449794
>>718447181
Far cry 2 is probably the closest we'll ever get since I don't think it's really considered a politically correct setting for entertainment media
Anonymous No.718449749
>>718445718
I hadn't thought about this, and considering the boom in indie games it's kinda surprising desu
Anonymous No.718449757 >>718449974 >>718450106
>>718445208 (OP)

If anything modern war video games are even dumber nowadays because

>no one can take the Russians seriously as antagonists anymore due to the invasion of Ukraine revealing them to be about as threatening to NATO as a wet fart
>Chinese market is too big and the CCP gets too butthurt for the Chinese to be made the antagonists of video games anymore
>devs have to come up with dumb shit like an international PMC somehow rising to be a threat to the West (even though the overwhelming majority of PMCs enjoy very lucrative contracts with Western governments)

Me? I just want a relatively accurate (in terms of weapons, uniforms, and gear) shooter set in a slightly alternate-1990s where NATO is actively fighting in the Yugoslav Wars or a theoretical Second Russian Civil War (the August Coup of 1989 turns violent and the USSR completely disintegrates or something like that). Something like Task Force 141 from MW2 but with a less schizophrenic plot and more unique/correct gear (Belgians in Jigsaw camo with FNCs, Germans in Flecktarn with G36s, Brits in DPM with SA80s, Americans in BDUs with M16s, etc.)
Anonymous No.718449794 >>718451420
>>718449614
Was it Africa?
Anonymous No.718449880
>>718445208 (OP)
because people still get intense ass-pain when anyone kills them with an RPG
Anonymous No.718449934
>>718445208 (OP)
I guess y'all niggas never played squad
Anonymous No.718449974 >>718450276 >>718450924 >>718451228 >>718451385
>>718449757
Nice disingenuous take. Ukraine and Russia are the only country now that have fought at near peer levels of modern tech. Ukraine is entirely supported by NATO and Russia holding on this long by themselves is crazy considering how corrupt their military is.
Anonymous No.718450050 >>718452461 >>718458774
>>718445468
>it's almost always border disputes and political ideology clashing
Not even, it's just ruling classes deciding they want more money and resources so they send people to die for them.
Anonymous No.718450106
>>718449757
But anon, the DOD still needs that gorillion annually budget to defend against Russia and China.
Anonymous No.718450152
>>718446001
A real modern war game would be infiltrating an enemy nation's most popular *chan and spamming wojak memes.
Anonymous No.718450171 >>718450534
>>718449196
>Dead kids Im told arent good.
Artificially keeping unhealthy kids alive so they can grow up and pass on their genes is definitely a good thing long term.
Anonymous No.718450276 >>718450614 >>718453382
>>718449974
>Russia holding on this long by themselves is crazy considering how corrupt their military is.

Not really, first off, they had to literally rent out troops from North Korea last year to retake Kursk, and even before that, they were Shanghai'ing immigrants from India, Central Africa, Syria, and even China into the Army (pic related). Secondly, Putin simply doesn't give a shit how many people die so long as his aims get fulfilled and the only person who was both able and willing to take a stand against him was Prigozhin.
Anonymous No.718450534 >>718454728
>>718450171
We're at the point where having any kids at all to pass on their genes is an accomplishment. Society+tech changed too fast and human biology barely changed at all.
Anonymous No.718450547 >>718458114
>>718448208
>You need to play North vs South

>buy War of Rights
>play as Union Army
>within five minutes get bayoneted by Confederate soldier screaming "Pregnant Anne Frank is Best Anne Frank"
>close game
>uninstall
>refund
Anonymous No.718450614 >>718450728
>>718450276
Yes. That's how war works. No such thing as honor or fighting fair retard.
Anonymous No.718450728 >>718450820
>>718450614

You also lose the right to label yourself "second army in the world" when you have to recruit North Koreans (btw Norks have more modern tanks and IFVs than the Russians now).
Anonymous No.718450820
>>718450728
No one said that though?
Anonymous No.718450924
>>718449974
the ironing.
Anonymous No.718451086 >>718451267 >>718451371
>>718445208 (OP)
because they are recruiting tools for the american military it's why you never get vietnam cause they lost that one
Anonymous No.718451228 >>718454212 >>718454474 >>718459021
>>718449974
>near peer levels of modern tech

ivan get the assault camel
Anonymous No.718451267 >>718451408 >>718451519 >>718451594
>>718451086
>what are BOPS1 and Cold War
>what are Shellshocked 2
>what are Vietcong
>what are BF Vietnam
Though I would be interested in a reverse invasion campaign where the NVA somehow invaded the US like Homefront
Anonymous No.718451371 >>718451519
>>718451086
>it's why you never get vietnam cause they lost that one
Anonymous No.718451385
>>718449974
>Russia holding on this long by themselves

you haven't seen the korean, chinese, african, and indian?
Anonymous No.718451408
>>718451267

Best Vietnam video game is Men of Valor
Anonymous No.718451420
>>718449794
Yes
Anonymous No.718451478 >>718453079
>>718445208 (OP)
Play Broken Arrow
Anonymous No.718451519
>>718451267
>>718451371
5 out of several hundred lmao
Anonymous No.718451594
>>718451267
>Though I would be interested in a reverse invasion campaign where the NVA somehow invaded the US like Homefront

>invade impoverished Southeast Asian country
>fight literal rice farmers with tanks, jets, and helicopters
>lose
>retreat in disgrace after a decade of being trapped in a quagmire entirely of your own making
>to this day, your veterans are homeless schizos who cope by pretending that they totally didn’t lose
>be PAVN in Cambodia, 1989
>pic unrelated
Anonymous No.718451728 >>718452265
1) Developers are afraid of upsetting a foreign country except those who embrace being the baddie or can't really do much if they object (Russia/North Korea). Or it'd upset the media and cause a shitstorm (Anything Africa Bush war unless you play versus Rhodesia or South Africa. Even black-vs-black and they'll complain)
2) People wanna play as muh special forces operators operating operationally with gucci-gang gear instead of ragtag guerillas.

I wish they'd just be creative, come up with either strangereal with ACTUALLY STRANGE AND REAL wars, not just "This is a cold war gone hot between Yuktobania and Osea (I wonder who those guys are?)" but rather "Not-Argentina with eclectic prototype weapons that became standard issue in their world going to war with not-Turkey equipped with German and Swiss gear."

>>718448982
18 rather than 10. And women had slightly worse odds due to childbirth. You look it up and no matter where you are literally 50% or so odds to survive to adulthood, but once you get there you're pretty solid. It's just wild to realize a 50% mortality rate was normal.

>>718449141
Most wars, excluding tribal ooga booga shit with +50% casualty rates or the great german chimpening of 1600s and you're fine. Mongol too I guess.
Anonymous No.718451832
>>718448424
PJ best boy
Anonymous No.718452050
>>718448940
>>718448982
>bro, the life expectancy numbers aren't as bad as they seem. Most kids died before the age of five!
I wonder how many people who say this are anti abortion.
Anonymous No.718452210
modern wars are completely soulless and jewish, give me my ww2/vietnam kino and im happy
Anonymous No.718452265
>>718451728

I love how Ace Combat literally just did the Yugoslav Wars but changed the region's name from the Balkans to the Belkans.
Anonymous No.718452296 >>718452438 >>718458584
>>718445208 (OP)
>Why all modern war games are WW2 shit
I wish
They've been modernslop for like 15 years now.
Everyone got so burnt out on every FPS/strategy game in the 00s being WWII that when COD Modern Warfare came out we've had modernslop ever since.
Anonymous No.718452438 >>718452826
>>718452296

I just wish Battlefield would go back to its roots and do the Persian Gulf War/WWIII between NATO and the USSR circa 1990
Anonymous No.718452461
>>718450050
yeah because war is actually a good thing for local economies and politicians
retard
Anonymous No.718452596 >>718452751
>>718445208 (OP)
Holocaust whining.
Anonymous No.718452610
I want more wars with fake countries and some small handwaves so we can use panzerfausts again.
Anonymous No.718452654
>>718445208 (OP)
why your english be's bad?
Anonymous No.718452679
>>718445208 (OP)
The reason why we've stagnated culturally is because the post-WW2 consensus has been in full collapse for a decade and the financial institutions (who have more power than ever) are responding by doubling down with fake narratives that don't resonate with the general public anymore and keep having to get more and more out-of-sync with reality and reason.

In fifteen years, normies will never say "the greatest generation" without sarcasm.
Anonymous No.718452751
>>718452596
>Holocaust whining.

We've never actually gotten an even remotely noteworthy depiction of the Holocaust in a video game, even though it would the perfect setting for survival-horror/stealth. Just have the devs and writers do some actual historical research so not to anger the ADL.
Anonymous No.718452826 >>718453007 >>718457772
>>718452438
I wish battlefield would get back to infantry vs GROUND vehicles. I know Battlefield was never ARMA tier autism but it was somewhat grounded in reality with arcade game modes. How does not people know this?
Anonymous No.718453007
>>718452826

Yeah, the early Battlefield titles were just the right blend of arcady and realistic to be enjoyable.

Call of Duty dare I say, was also a lot more grounded until MW2 (the original) came out and then it progressively degenerated into a complete joke with each progressive release.
Anonymous No.718453079
>>718451478
broken arrow is current war tech, all atgms are basicaly 100% accurate and can change targets mid flight
warno is more about 70-90s war
Anonymous No.718453382 >>718453859 >>718458929
>>718450276
>they had to literally rent out troops from North Korea last year to retake Kursk
It was Kim's idea according to U.S. intelligence, and he only got IOU in exchange.
It is believed that apart from improving ties with Russia his objective was to provide his troops with experience in real warfare.
archive.ph/Wv1CT
>the only person who was both able and willing to take a stand against him was Prigozhin
Prigozhin was definitely charismatic enough to mislead many observers into believing that he was a true patriot, while the only thing he was truly defending was his own little empire. Constantly praising the enemy, sucking up to NATO prowess, treasonously sperging out during ukrainian counteroffensive of all times after he was forced to sign up a contract with russian MoD, even lying about ukrainian gains β€” in essence he was a warlord for hire and always put his personal status above patriotism, which made him about as corrupt as the generals he was trying to remove. Wouldn't be surprising if he was secretly offered a token of appreciation from western powers to potentially create a major mutiny in Russia, but thankfully it didn't catch up.
Anonymous No.718453627
>>718445208 (OP)
Fuck Technicals. Where's my Cagemaxxing simulator.
Anonymous No.718453762
>>718447774
God I miss Insurgency standalone...
Anonymous No.718453859 >>718454291
>>718453382
>he only got IOU in exchange

korea got awacs, oil and other shit.
Anonymous No.718454047
>>718449196
>Dead kids Im told arent good.
Depends on how you season 'em.
Anonymous No.718454063 >>718454157
Has there ever been a shooter where it's US vs Europe?
Anonymous No.718454157 >>718458840
>>718454063
World War 2?
Anonymous No.718454212
>>718451228
>Russia's plan is to pointless and slowly deplete the world of resources until we get to live in a cool post apocalyptic camel cavalry future
I kneel
Anonymous No.718454254 >>718454402
>>718447181
What games does he play?
Anonymous No.718454291 >>718459107
>>718453859
At the time of the revelation from the article Kim didn't get anything material, cashing in happened later, he was the one to propose the idea without specific conditions, thus "rent out troops" from the post I replied to is not a correct way to describe this deal.
Anonymous No.718454402
>>718454254
he played cracked counter strike 1.6 in his nation's only remaining internet cafe in his childhood and believes it to be the only videogame ever made
Anonymous No.718454474 >>718454772 >>718458013 >>718459021
>>718451228
Near peer indeed.
Anonymous No.718454554 >>718454939
>>718446803
CIA simulator when
Anonymous No.718454593
>>718445798
>soulless
It would be very soulless for the western stand-in and a kekfest for the islamist rebels playing nasheeds through their mics and blowing themselves up.
Anonymous No.718454728
>>718450534
Has nothing to do with that and everything to do with resource misallocation.
Anonymous No.718454772
>>718454474
are donkeys better than camels?
Anonymous No.718454939
>>718454554
>CIA simulator when
You'll get it when you show the state is actual pedophiles and have been before orange man bad. And you're beholden to a certain state.
Anonymous No.718455797
The problem isnt lack of games the problem is lack of SP games im so fucking tired of YET ANOTHER war game that is MP only and it either has no bots or if it has them they are beyond retarded. (im talking about Squad and Project Reality)
Anonymous No.718457772
>>718452826
Yeah, fixed wings aircrafts should be exclusively locked as air support mechanic that commander class can call with radioman beside him like in insurgency. It makes no sense that a grunt can fly a jet like a taxi.
Anonymous No.718458013
>>718454474
Anonymous No.718458114
>>718450547
Your own damn fault for playing Union.
Anonymous No.718458145
I'm glad the only people to ever win wars were the good guys.
Anonymous No.718458174 >>718459325
>>718445468
lol 'existential threat'
Anonymous No.718458327
>>718445798
>any war with cannons
>not cool
shut the fuck up and let me play a privateer attacking galleons already
Anonymous No.718458584
>>718452296
>the most popular Battlefield game is the WW1 game
Anonymous No.718458738
>>718445208 (OP)
All ww2 games were shit anon, name one game were you play as the good guys
Anonymous No.718458774
>>718450050
midwittest take of them all
Anonymous No.718458840 >>718458914 >>718459034
>>718454157
The new BF is supposed to be Merica invaded by Euro mercs or something
Anonymous No.718458914
>>718458840
that's stupid
Anonymous No.718458929
>>718453382
>was definitely charismatic enough to mislead many observers into believing that he was a true patriot, while the only thing he was truly defending was his own little empire
same you can tell about cucktin
Anonymous No.718458967
>>718445208 (OP)
you could easily make a scenario like this on arma, as flawed as the game is
Anonymous No.718458968
>>718445208 (OP)
Games where you can kill amerimutts???
Anonymous No.718458970
>>718445208 (OP)
Not all wars translate well into vidya. Sitting in a muddy trench and dying randomly to a drone half a mile away from a populated town where people buy groceries and live like nothing's wrong doesn't sound fun.
Same reason wwi isn't a good setting.
Anonymous No.718459021
>>718451228
Uh oh nafo fag ate shit >>718454474
Anonymous No.718459025
>>718447062
The middle east was on the path to peaceful stabilization and peaked in the 60s/70s. Iran was honestly a very beautiful nation. But of course the CIA couldn't have that, because then the vast oil fields would have to be bartered for with a democratic society. So they undermined everything, riled up the communists and religious extremists to overthrow the government, and decimated everything just so they could mine that shit for cheap.

The glowies are a cancer unto America's legacy.
Anonymous No.718459034
>>718458840
Imagine if they had any balls and they'd make Europe being invaded by the Muslims/Islam.
Anonymous No.718459107
>>718454291
>Kim proposed
Doesnt change that Russia is paying another country to defend them
>he didn’t get paid yet
But Russia must pay, so it is β€œrent out troops” just with delayed payment
Anonymous No.718459325
>>718458174
>what is annexation