Thread 718447902

could this live up to the immense hype that's built up?

>>718447902 (OP)
/v/ told me it would

>>718447902 (OP)
What hype? The forced meme of when will this game we know nothing about release?

>>718447993
Isn’t this piece of shit supposed to be featured at a museum in Aussie land next month?

>>718447902 (OP)
If it's as good as the first one I'll be happy.

>>718447902 (OP)
sure. hopefully they hired some actual game designers for this one because the levels in the og were a meandering mess. "fans" of the game won't know any better either way though

>DUUDE THERES 500 HOURS OF CONTENT AND 1000 SECRET AREAS AND 1000000 UNLOCKS AND A 100% SECRET BOSS
>IT GETS GOOD 20 HOURS IN BRO
Doesn't matter if the gameplay is basic, boring shit like Hollow Knight. I imagine this to double down on that, instead of having an experience youd want to actually return to and not just jerk off to how big it is. The art is nice, the gameplay was always the most 5/10 thing ever

>>718447902 (OP)
The combat looks more gimmicky than the original. Which might be shit.
The original combat was precise and simple and i liked that

>>718447902 (OP)
>fem protag with an attitude
Golly gee I wonder if it'll be good!

>>718448275
cute bait bro

>>718447902 (OP)
Remember when people used to call the first one "the dark souls of platformers"? Lmfao

How do we get rid of all the clones?

>>718447902 (OP)
Trannies will dick ride it anyway

>>718447902 (OP)
of course not. it will be hollow knight's dark souls 2

>>718448774
So then we will have hollow knight's dark souls 3 which is good? and hollow knight's elden ring before I die?

>>718447902 (OP)
I just want to play it

>>718447902 (OP)
How does it even have hype? Why don't they just play the first one again or something lol

It's really never coming out, huh?

>>718448648
It's crazy how many clones came out based on that only Silksong trailer from 6 years ago. It's not even just HK clones, they specifically have sub weapons like Hornet does.

>>718447902 (OP)
It won't live up to it. Most of the zoomers who spam YT with SILKSONG WHEN only care about the meme, they probably won't even play it.
For me Hollow Knight was just some indie game I was slightly interested in, but was waiting for the Switch version to come out. I was surprised how much I enjoyed the game, I had this feeling of "I didn't know games could be this good anymore."
But Silksong is different, it has 5 years of hype and clown memes of it never coming out, I'll just be happy if it's as good as Hollow Knight.

>HK took 3 years to make
>Silksong is 2.5 times bigger
>Silksong was rushed in 6 years
What the fuck happened to modern gaming?
Remember "Delayed game is good eventually, rushed game is bad forever"?

>>718450538
Games stuck in development hell always came out horrible, that miyamoto quote is a fucking meme

>>718449087
yeah, the game's not real, it's never coming out

>>718450652
So it's ok to rush games now?

>>718450695
Never said that

>>718450695
Uhhhh so would you like to stop sucking cock any time soon?

>>718450538
What's going on, anon? Not getting the engagement you want?

Funny how Mina the Hollower has the same amount of years as this game but people don't spam Chat about it.

>>718447902 (OP)
Yes.
And it's going to when it releases.
Which will be tomorrow.

>>718450865
because Mina the Hollower wasn't even announced until fairly recently, and actually got a demo that most people didn't seem to enjoy too much

also Shovel Knight came out in 2014, unless you're counting from the King of Cards release for some reason.

>>718451213
It was announced like 3 years ago and every Yacht Club stream it was pretty much "Where's Mina?" But yeah after playing the demo I lost interest in it.

>>718448275

>gameplay is basic

you are too brainlet to understand why its simplicity makes it so good

>>718447902 (OP)
no, it can't. but it will

Got bored of Hollow Knight 30 mins in and dropped it. Never got the hype; mimetic contagion and normalfaggot herd mindset, I presume.

>>718451663
stale bait

>>718451765
No, I'm being 100% genuine. This is in fact the first time I've even opined on the matter. I just sort of wondered around, killed stuff and got bored. Very shallow experience.

>>718447902 (OP)
I'm looking forward to the chaos this is going to cause in Germany. The xbox set up only had 5 playable stations. The line for this demo is going to be absurd. This is going to be an incident.

>>718449165
Sub weapons are a Castlevania thing.

>>718451852
That reflects more on your character than the game. it's a metroidvania, the entire genre is built around ability, movement, and power progression of both the player and the enemies increasing over the course of the game culminating in a radically different end game from the humble origins of the starting character.

>>718447902 (OP)
Easily. Metroidvania as a genre is filled with so much trash.

>>718450695
It's ok to accept that some things are just not meant to be. Silksong is likely one of those things.

>>718451989
>That reflects more on your character
Perhaps I have a higher character more fit to opine on the game? Yes, I believe this is the case
>ability, movement, and power
Didn't interest me—relics of the arcade age. The setting tried its best, but it couldn't hold me either. It was window dressing on a boresome window.

>>718450538
I know this is a copy-pasta bot post or something, but I'll respond seriously anyway.
Just because a game is X times bigger doesn't mean it's gonna take X times as long to make.
1. You get better at development. The developers were relatively inexperienced with the first Hollow Knight, they now have that experience and would be better at development (ie. faster).
2. Silksong obviously shares a lot of the same code and engine (I know the engine is just Unity, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of boiler-plate bullshit they had to make early on). Since the game is built on the original Hollow Knight, a lot of the development was already done for them.

>>718447993
It's literally the most wishlisted steam game.

>>718447902 (OP)
ye but it's more because content creators will milk it for all its worth, and they need it to be groundbreaking for that to be the case
casuals will just accept the consensus

>>718451663
it doesn't really click until a few hours in. I dismissed it too at first but I had a friend who encouraged me to give it a proper go and I'm glad I did

>>718452297
What hype? The forced meme of when will this game we know nothing about release?

>>718452297
>most wishlisted game on steam
But The Day Before broke that level before and it sucked ass.

>>718452520
>until a few hours in
Damn that sucks. I could watch a good film in that time

>>718449165
Name three

>>718449305
>SILKSONG WHEN only care about the meme,
No. They are that autistic about it. I know a guy who is like that.

>>718452297
Wishlists are not power

>>718452230
>Just because a game is X times bigger doesn't mean it's gonna take X times as long to make.
So it's ok to rush a game because "Well, it's our 2nd game now, so the standards of fans are lower"?

>It's fine if you only make 5 games and then you reach retirement age
Uh huh

>>718452771
reminds me of katana zero

>>718452771
seems like someone bought himself some wishlists

>>718452771
>my literally hoo game
>sequel to a fucking indie titan
Most people wishlist for sales. Silksong is eternally the most wishlisted game right up until 48 hours of a AAA release before reclaiming that title again. Often times even AAA releases fail to dethrone it which is just pathetic. Easy 10 mil sales week 1. Likely 20 mil sales.

>>718452962
Not power

>>718451965
>Expecting a Hollow Knight fan to have played Castlevania

>>718453231
HK fans have good taste. Igavanias are trash, but the OG vanias still hold up.

>>718451989
>the entire genre is built around ability, movement, and power progression of both the player
The biggest flaw with hollow knight is how shallow the character progression is, especially when it comes to movement.

I'd really like it if these clone games didn't copy the up slash's animation. The devs namedrop Zelda 2 so the clones really ought to copy the up thrust instead

>>718453271
The OG vanias also have sub weapons.

>>718452662
They're all forgettable and I'm not going through 5 years worth of Nintendo Directs, Indie Worlds, Xbox Showcases, and State of Plays just to get titles.
>>718453231
Yes but I mean specifically what Hornet was shown using.
>>718451965
CotM was actually my first CV game. Really enjoyed it even though better ones came out after.

>hear about upcoming game
>memory is quickly replaced by the colour of a piece of cloth which disolves into more nonsense in my neurons
>7+ years pass
>game comes out. I have the faintest recollection that this game was a thing that was happening some long time ago
>enjoy it completely unadulterated by any bias.
>If I like it it'll enjoy it without judging it against a nonexistant version of it crafted in my mind by years of hype.
>If I don't I don't care because I had zero expectations of it
DementiaGODS. DementiaDEITIES.

>>718447902 (OP)
it will be the single greatest piece of entertainment made in centuries and will be remembered in the same terms as the mona lisa

>>718453368
the problem is there are no visual upgrades

>>718453605
The problem for me is that you never progress beyond spam dashing to move quickly. The crystal dash thing is borderline useless for general travel given its startup time and the fact that you can still take damage while flying.
Good metroidvanias ape the speedbooster

Is this what the Knight sees when he sees Zote?

>>718447902 (OP)
My brother in Christ, it can't even live up to the artificial hype the marketing team is funding.

>>718453836
ye crystal dash is not something you use for traversal, then again neither was speedbooster most of the time
a bunch of HK upgrades are pretty one-dimensional, which is a problem even in games like zelda
guess HK lacked a screw attack tier

>>718453889
Palworld devs were working on their own. Theirs seems a little more visually inspired at least.

Castlevania SOTN
Super Metroid

Everything else is shit

>>718454108
>then again neither was speedbooster most of the time
Speedbooster trivialises most rooms because it doesn't take any real commitment to activate, just run for a bit. It makes backtracking a lot nicer

>>718447902 (OP)
This bitch keeps killing me at kingdoms edge. What the fuck is her problem man?

>>718447902 (OP)
No way it could, but it will be reported that way. Hollow Knight was fine, but it wasn't the greatest indie game ever that they said it was.

>>718450652
Miyamoto was talking about a few months of delay AFTER the announced release date, when the game should be close to 90% done and would need a bit of polishing. He wasn't justifying a decade of development hell.

>>718454559
meh I think that has to do more with how the map is setup than anything else
HK is like double the size and in super metroid is kinda rare you have the space necessary to trigger speed booster for simple traversal
metroid does feel better to traverse but speed booster doesn't feel significant enough for it to be one of the main reasons why that's the case

>>718447902 (OP)
I still don't get the hype for this reddit trash. Nine Sols and Prince of Persia were much better

>>718447902 (OP)
Yes.

By all accounts it looks like an improvement over the first game.

>>718447902 (OP)
It will print money, I don't expect it to be better than the first

>>718447902 (OP)
No.

>>718447993
it's funny how everyone was bandwagoning in the "skate 4!" meme until they actually announced it and then no one cared about it anymore and moved on to other memes like silksong

>>718455214
I worked on the prince of persia game and I can tell you for a fact that you don't know what you are talking about
the only reason that PoP game exists is because the previous title we were working on, the sands of time remake, got canned because of how shit ubisoft pune devs were, and we had paid for the rights already
nine sols is also derivative shit that wouldn't exist without HK

i like how 90% of /v/ doomposting of silksong has turned into contrarian cope that entirely ignores everything that has been shown about silksong

>the first game was a slow chore!!!
hornet is much faster with more dynamic moves
>too small moveset and simple combat!!
hornet has much more dynamic combat moves and multiple movesets to swap across
>world is too grey and lifeless!!!
silksong has color up the ass

>>718459658
>multiple movesets to swap across
this is possibly bad and bosses might feel much less "tight" mechanically

>>718447902 (OP)
if the first game could force me into a fit of rage thanks to its auto-save feature and how it ruins the whole experience then yes, skong will live up to its hype (more of the same glaring issues).

>>718452962
>literally hoo game
fucking cheeky

>>718454482
i played aria of sorrow and i liked it more than SOTN

>>718459797
It's not as bad as you might think. The moveset differences aren't that drastic but just enough to shift ylur personaly playstyle.

>>718459797
i think it looks trustable
Every boss we have seen so far in a gameplay trailer looks perfectly tight, if not tighter than the average for HK. Even with all the new tools and optional moves like that parry counter or the floor saw

>>718459891
>thanks to its auto-save feature
what do you not like about it?

>>718460205
is it? I've seen there's a whole bunch of different "pogo" alternatives, which were pretty central in the original gameplay

>>718459658
Look if Silksong fixes all of the issues I have about HK's movement then I'll be happy, but the idea of it being 2.5x the size of HK is still rubbing me the wrong way. The genre just lends itself better to shorter games

>>718451663
>>718451852
you post this in every thread

Literally the only reason anyone is "hype" for this dogshit is so they can get more fanart of the bug woman to jerk off to. It's a mid game.

>>718460312
everything.
imagine entering a new area and the first thing that happens after killing a jellyfish is that their cores are homing, killing you in the process so you gotta grind your currency again that is hard to farm anyway. god forbid that you want to save manually so you can pursue your own pace.
you think about all the currency that got handed to you because you found a grub.
you later learn about the bank but it's already too late.
>git gud
yeah, let me just restart the whole game so I don't feel like killing myself because of my idiotic mistakes.

>>718447902 (OP)
it won't and people will realise waiting for it was more fun than actually getting it(somehow)
but probably still fun enough.... but frs once it's over everyone is gonna really miss the whole "silksong tomorrow" thing.

>>718460625
>you later learn about the bank but it's already too late

>>718452771
And then from those 1000 copies sold, only 5% actually played the game and the rest left it in their library gathering dust.

HK has an estimated 20m sales across all platforms btw

>>718447902 (OP)
this game is going to be SOOOOOOOOO shitposted here
I can already see the endless threads saying stuff like "what's wrong /v/? Isn't this the most awaited game of the decade?" With a twitter pic of some indian complaining about the game

>>718460625
i think you might be overestimating how much the geo you lose really matters, its easy to get it back up and all
i think its a little silly to be so negative about your actions/mistakes having consequences, but if you really really want to, you can try backing up your save

also, theres this game about facing your mistakes and overcoming what seems like huge losses, Darkest Dungeon

>>718452962
>literally hoo

>>718460625
>you later learn about the bank but it's already too late.

>>718447902 (OP)
Not really but most metroidvanias are low quality solo dev projects so it should still be one of the better games in the genre

>>718460625
The bank is kino.

>>718453889
>Dilator

Im afraid the combat will be to hard/complex

>>718460625
This is the kind of people who give bad reviews on gameplay of any game

>>718460120
but you are a faggot so it doesnt matter

>>718447902 (OP)
Play your second metroidvania, zoomer scourge

>>718460257
Which one are you guys using?
For me its crest 3.

>>718447902 (OP)
Doesn't matter what everyone else thinks. I have tempered my expectations. I'm not going to hype it up before playing it.

>>718447902 (OP)
Bump

>>718447902 (OP)
The only thing I want Silksong to have less of is stupid platforming bosses. Shit like Ascended No Eyes and Ascended Markoth were fucking obnoxious as fuck. As long as they don't do more of that, I'm happy.

>>718447993
>this game we know nothing about
Played Hollow Knight? Then you know all about this too.

>>718460625
never trust the banks

>>718454620
Always keep some space between you and her so you have time to react when she lunges at you, especially from the ground. She also just walks kind of quick so she can easily bump into you if you aren’t careful. Strike her as she gets close and then retreat to the opposite side of the room, repeat. Dispel her traps as soon as she sets them if they spawn nearby, but don’t go out of your way if they aren’t, just swipe at them as you pass by using the former strat.

Other than that, git gud I guess.

>>718447902 (OP)
as long as Hornet is sexy as fuck, yes.

>>718447902 (OP)
I played Hollow Knight and while it was a very good game with a cool aesthetic, it wasn’t so mind blowing that I don’t think expectations shouldn’t be met.

Nine Sols surpassed anything Team Cherry is capable of creating, it will be somewhat disappointing.

>>718447902 (OP)
Admittedly I'm mostly interested in more Hornet lewds. I can slop them but it's not quite the same.

>>718466802
>how you do fellow fleshbag kids
Cringe corpo puppet.

is anyone else excited for this game?

>>718460625
you aren’t sentient

I think people just want to play it. The expectations seem to be set at a reasonable level.

People liked Hollow Knight, they want another one. I could see people be like "eh, I liked Hollow Knight more" but it's not set itself up to totally miss the mark because peoples' expectations have been set so high that they're unattainable.

>>718471171
bug secks

>>718447902 (OP)
So how does this stack up to Bloodstained or post PSX Igavania games?
I tried Blasphemous and 9 years of Shadows and they just don't do it for me but I love Igavanias

>>718447902 (OP)
Hype is for children, I like Hollow Knight and will play the sequel when it comes out. How long it takes makes no difference in my life. If anything it makes me more likely to forget about it.

>>718447902 (OP)
This game looks like an offline Brawlhalla and that's not a compliment

>>718447902 (OP)
If it's Hollow Knight but with some cooler moves, it's already fine.

>>718454482
Also Bloodstained nigga, and to be honest most Igavanias post SOTN are fun enough not on SOTN levels but good enough

>>718461280
I probably do. still, I was buttblasted because there were some essential upgrades that I couldn't get anymore unless I spent a long time grinding geo.

>>718463450
you probably think that all games are good, regardless of their glaring issues

>>718471243
Me

>>718447902 (OP)
No

>>718460625
>you later learn about the bank but it's already too late
Anon, I-

>>718447902 (OP)
no, in fact there's a fatigue of metroidvania's now so this game will suck ass

>>718447902 (OP)
No, it is impossible. Even if it was on the same level of hollow knight, it would still fall short
The way people created a behemoth of a myth out of this game was unreal

>>718447902 (OP)
no and wont buy it not even going to pirate it

>>718474882
im a yumiko main

https://x.com/teamcherrygames/status/1957812884773433667?s=46&t=qaHitrbwAaFsrFDMgeAroA
HAPPENING

>>718447902 (OP)
Considering HK is nowhere near as good as its cultist fanboys claim it, absolutely no.

>>718481167
>in 48 hours
ugh

>>718482239
Genuinely the best metroidvania since Symphony of the Night
>Nowhere near as good

Contrarians deserve slow and agonizing death for how fucking insufferable you faggots are

>>718447902 (OP)
Yes, avid Metroidvania fans will be ecstatic to finally play their second game in the genre.

>>718482531
Thanks for confirming HK fags' insane cultist behavior.

>>718479382
I really do not anyone can see the situation like this.

This game is not being overhyped, just highly anticipated. No one's been like "THIS GAME IS GOING TO BE SO FUCKING LIT WHEN IT DROPS, I CAN'T WAIT," and then find out the second half of the game is a total slog.

There are ways they could screw it up but to me they seem more like things that would make it a bad game anyway, regardless of how much fervor it's drummed up (like shitty level design that isn't any fun to explore or abilities that feel underused).

i didn't like the first one

>>718459265
Yup. There's such a thing as too little too late, and silksong is waaaay past that.

>>718483301
This is a good summation of why I think the hype level for this game hasn't overstepped.

People seem very much aligned to whatever they already thought of Hollow Knight coming into this game so it's not like this game is necessarily going to grow the Hollow Knight audience just because it's talked about a lot. Regardless of how much consciousness people have of it the amount of interest Silksong maintains remains in line with the amount of interest/enjoyment people had in Hollow Knight. Everyone who liked Hollow Knight is getting more and those who didn't won't change their mind about Silksong.

>>718485762
>t. anon who will absolutely be playing silksong one way or another

>>718447902 (OP)
no, of course not. There's going to be multiple patches and fixes and a year or two after it's ouut people will say "dude silksong is good now"

>>718485762
I feel like that applies more to something like Beyond Good & Evil 2. Something whose reputation precedes it so the fact they never delivered on it has ruined its interest level.

Hollow Knight seems more...cultural. The people who are into it are into it because it fills a niche they appreciate and thus they follow the Silksong saga simply to stay involved in that Hollow Knight world.

>>718448275
They'll hate you because you're telling the truth. Depth of a shallow pond stretched out for miles disguised as an "experience"

No.

It's a 2D indie game that has been in dev hells for 7 fucking years. The engine remains unchanged and a lot of assets are the same. They must have severely fucked up somewhere for a sequel to take this long.

>>718453473
Anon, he's a HK fan. He hasn't played Castlevania.

>>718449165
>Team Cherry invented sub weapons

>>718451451
some of the best games being simple does not mean simple equates good

Who is going to get angry if this game gets an 8/10? The diehards who waited this long for it to come out or all the smugs who were waiting for the game to underwhelm after so much anticipation?

>>718474483
Its not an IGAvania, but its pretty good still.

>>718452771
>>718453082
>action rougelike
>generic pixel art
and people wonder why no-one cares about their game. make something novel and people will line up

>>718474483
it has nothing in common with them besides being a 2D exploration game with combat

>>718451451
There is simplicity and then there is hollow knight that genuinely feels like I'm playing a shitty flash platformer. It has the exact same movement as rogue legacy and movement is the absolute worst part of that game.