Thread 718448984

SEETHING

video games?

>>718449029
>The developer lead of a video game talking about the protagonist and endings of his video game isn't video games because................BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T OKAY!!!!!!!

>>718448984 (OP)
nobody cares about that chudevelopers opinion, my headcanon is law.

>>718449136
He's just the monster designer.
Everything about SH is a ripoff of something, so all Team Silent did was write their own fanfiction headcanon.

>>718448984 (OP)
Having retarded theory youtubers talk to you all day would make anyone seethe

This constant theorycrafting and overthinking of a video game's story is so fucking retard.

>>718449516
>This constant theorycrafting and overthinking of a video game's story is so fucking retard.
The guy in the op is a literal autistic sperg who lives in social media and hasn’t been able to hold down a job since he left Konami and got rehired. We are talking decades here

When a name ends with an S, you say
>James' state of mind
not
>James's
Just by the by

didn't he claim the pyramid head rape scene had nothing to do with sex too

>>718449516
good morning sar

what does he think about the demake?

>>718450449
I mean
None of the monsters has genitalia
And Piramid Head is keeping its distance on the alleged rape shots

>>718450414
Both are correct. Please sit down.

>>718450449
Lmao yes
It's pretty obvious what it's supposed to be though.
Ito saying this isn't rape is a blatant retcon on par with JK Rowling's bullshit

>>718448984 (OP)
this retard has singlehandedly ruined the lore and symbolism of sh2 by overexplaining shit and retroactively censoring his own art, that's why creators should have no say on what their work is about

>>718452309
>The artists vision is sacred. Unless it gets in the way of my headcanon.
Many such cases. Sad!

>>718452626
Look at George Lucas or James Cameron they keep going back and making changes to their perfect on release work.

>>718448984 (OP)
I don't think I've ever seen anyone claim James killed Mary out of sexual frustration, just name it as one of the many things that were wearing him down

>>718448984 (OP)
>characters can't be multilayered and have multiple motivations
ito is such a retard and is not even responsible for character design for non-monster characters. He's literally irrelevant for this conversation.

>>718448984 (OP)
this is the first I'm hearing of it. It's probably in character for James, but I don't think the game ever implied it.

>>718449136
most video games aren't video games according to our janitorial staff

>>718452309
this.
>>718452626
go back to xitter and cut yourself wench.

>>718454026
Ito hasn't changed anything, people just kept coming up to him on twitter going "UH HEY DID YOU MAKE THE RAPE IN THIS GAME TO MEAN RAPE? IS JAMES A RAPIST TOO?!?" and he started denying it.

>>718452309
To be fair it's hard to tell what role he actually had outside of designing the monsters. But also he isn't arguing the scene in the OP he's arguing that retards are calling James a rapist that killed his wife because he wanted sex so much. And even saying the counterpoint to that is in one of the endings.

>>718457176
>retards are calling James a rapist that killed his wife because he wanted sex so much

Ito is one of those next-level pretentious guys where he's surmised the current trend of analysis, so now he tries to remain nuanced by going very matter-of-fact on things.

It's pretty clear what's going on in this game, and in some sense you don't get to decide what the meaning of your own work is.

It would make sense that the dev team for SH2 were repressed and dishonest about their feelings themselves

>>718457235
I meet people outside of the fandom that just think James is a terrible person because they never played the game and only see discourse online about it. Which isn't their fault it's because it's through the lens of retards who play the game and just automatically think he's a bad person because he did a bad thing.
I get why he's frustrated explaining shit to people because it's a game of dip shit telephone.
Which is funny too because it's the big twist at the end of the game and media literacy to some people is just completely foreign. The whole story is literally the main character trying to repent for his actions and the immense guilt he carries.

>>718457481
How did you write so much but make no point whatsoever

>>718457481
ahh yes,
the zoomers.

>>718450414
As the other anon said, both are correct. I actually learned it as the latter and thought the former was being written by retards who didn't understand the difference between plural and non-plural possessives with "s" endings. Now you get to feel like the retard, just as I did. I maintain that "James's" is the more logical way of writing it outside of dialogue and am clearly in no way biased in this assertion.

>>718457601
Ah yes, we've spotted the completely illiterate.
>>718457725
Nah it's usually people who's only interactions with the series is seeing the movies. Basing what they think about him off comments like that.

>>718449516
>I am incapable of thought and thus I get mad when others think

>>718457850
complete illiterate* go back to your gay forum

>>718458641
>go back to your gay forum
I've closed the page and opened it again just for you.

>>718452626
Explaining shit in Twitter posts 20 years later is the tackiest way possible to convey your message. Either make a new game that conveys it better or shut the fuck up. Even George Lucas wasn't this bad.

the problem is that what "rape" means nowadays is different than 20 years ago. with murder it's easier.

who is even a writer of silent hill 2? All we hear is babble from the artist like wtf?

>>718448984 (OP)
Who would want to rape his dying wife? He just wanted her to disappear.

>rape means sex now
Lowkey glad I turned down every girl who asked me for it.

>>718451737
>It's pretty obvious
it's a nightmarish state. of course it's not obvious. edgelords cling on to the rape scenario because...edge.

>>718452309
>by overexplaining shit
but he is not overexplaining. some of the fandom are overanalyzing. Ito's explanations are simple and make more sense.

>>718458983
he died of cringeness after 2007 shitstorm coming

>>718460183
People actually think they achieve something by making these images

>>718460294
yes.

>>718451737
Let's be honest it was just included because devs thought it's hot. Nobody gave a single shit about its meaning. SH in general is a very poorly thought through story

>>718460624
>included because devs thought it's hot
>it's hot
no it's weird and disturbing like everything else that happens in this game. edgelords with their headcanons have to be the most annoying fags in gaming.

>>718460294
Have seen this image like 10000times so yes?
Why are you so cringe ass newfagfujo?
Why don't you just fucking kill yourself roastie?

>>718460363
They don't it, makes you look full spectrum in misunderstanding that nobody trusts information dispersed like this. Some faux certainty with full-stops won't work either, you just come across like you doubt yourself entirely

>>718460759
/thread

>>718460891
The thread is about SH2 retard

James doesn't like sleeping, eating or having sex. Basically anything that might be pleasurable to him he finds disgusting and avoids it. He was already self destructing before he got to the town. This is even built into the mechanics for the different endings like not healing yourself right away when you're damaged. It's also reflected in various entities spawned by Silent Hill but most blatantly in Maria both in appearance and the fact that she was hardwired to try and kill herself which would torment James even more.

>>718460624
it was included because it copied rape scene from blue velvet

>>718449136
>The developer lead
ok masahiro

>>718451737
Explain how that makes sense though. Why would James see PH raping those mannequins if he himself did not rape or think about raping his wife?

>>718461879
Sexual frustration in partners suffering from terminal illness is a very real and common issue. Where James needs release, Silent Hill extrapolates it into raw sexual aggression to feed off his fear. James only makes sense as a modern man, one who's become disassociated from basic intimacy so his reality is now steeped in hyperbole

The Nurse is an easy allegory, as you can imagine that James must be encountered nurses when tending to Mary and felt ashamed at the arousal he felt in the presence of his own wife

>>718462064
That's pure headcanon lol

>>718462938
I feel sorry for you

>>718448984 (OP)
Meanwhile: Masahiro Ito in 2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC84KbOH43c&list=RDxC84KbOH43c&start_radio=1&ab_channel=ProjectRavenlight

>>718448984 (OP)
Blooberfags btfo

>>718448984 (OP)
>>718465156
yes, also, he's extremely shit at drawing women
he's a bad artist with a good imagination, just a failed creator who got severe level dementia , constantly forget what even he said, I don't think he deserves much credit

>>718449342
It's really fucking weird that this happened twice. The dude that was making trees for maps in Warcraft 3 was making comments about authorial intent of Arthas' decision in Stratholme and now you have this fucking retard commending on the writer of Silent Hill when his job was painting textures. What is it with these lesser men trying to explain the actions of their betters? Do they think they will be better regarded for it?

>>718465401
you guys are sperging because an og team silent creator is calling you out on your obvious edgelord headcanon

>>718465624
no, only because he's a delusional faggot

>>718465624
For whatever reason, Ito now feels incredibly exposed by what the common consensus is on what the game is, and like a lot of creators who unintentionally out their thoughts or feelings is trying to cope by just being contrarian to his own ideas. These old fucks always clutch onto authorial control even if it means undermining their own authenticity

Does anyone have that image about the blue curtain and how English graduates interpret it?
Because that's this thread.

>>718466043
No, maybe try forming a convincing argument next time rather than going around begging for infographics

Man people need to stop listening or wanting games from these OG oldheads.
Those games back then were made by a particular group of people at a particular place and time. Which was the 90s japan.
Its just not the same. And I saw again and again were the OGs come together for a sequel and its always just shit.
Japs are all on X now consuming the same slop. NO more language barrier.

We have a unironically higher chance to get AIs in the future to capture that soul since they pick up well on patterns.

>>718465941
no he has became old fatfuck and starts virtuesignaling to his horny xitterfemcels & konami, tons of cases confirmed by genxnigger male artists, who openly revealed his rape fantasies through his works in his youth but after he gain succes, acts like a male feminist to hide the fact that he's a pro rapist who actually imprisoned slampig women in his dungeon

>>718448984 (OP)
I think this theory applies to Boober's SH2 which added NEW LOAR. Obviously this wasn't intended for original game, but I could believe remake hinted at something like this

>>718460624
Yeah. just let the blue curtain be blue for no reason.

>>718450414
You can use both, but it looks and feels better to use James'

>>718466459
He's still drawing lewds openly

Why do the japs love the in the water ending so much when it's clearly weaker writing, acting and thematically than the Leave ending or hell even the fucking Rebirth ending is better

>>718452309
>creators should have no say on what their work is about
They don't if you believe they don't.

>>718466416
>Japs are all on X now consuming the same slop. NO more language barrier.
bruh this is team silent we are talking about, what are you on? They were inspired by westerners and russians. This is Okomoto thinking (the current director of SIlent hill), he thinks silent hill is japanese when it's the opposite

>>718467189
i have been in japan since the 90s.
back then japs had a certain image of burgerland.
same like we had a certain idea of how japan looks like.
but their society was unique and truly "foreign".

now X has almost identical memes, even the political stuff. japs are exposed to the absolute same stuff we are.
all those 90s japan games will never be replicated because japan of that time does not exist anymore.
thats what I am saying. they were westaboos, so what? they were not ACTUAL acting like one because of the culture they are growing up in. all that changed and is changing.

>>718451737
"Psychological horror has to shake humans heart deeply. Shaking peoples heart deeply means uncover peoples core emotion and core motivation for life. Everybody is thinking and concerning about sex and death. Everything. And if we want to scare or shake or touch the users or spectators, then we have
to think about sex and death deeply."

Enough said. There is some sex involved. I don't think this means James raped anyone. It's just that Sex and Death is such a core thing to a human that showing these things mixed together makes for a disgusting and scary experience.

>>718467016
I personally think Leave is bad because James gets away with the murder of his wife.

>>718451737
NO IT'S NOT THAT WHICH IS WHY BLOOBER COMPLETELY CHANGED IT IN THE REMAKE

>>718457601
>people get malicious caricature understanding of James
>people pester dev with this retarded premise
>the game clearly frames him as sympathetic actor, and leaves him a path to redemption
pretty solid post, I don't see the issue

i think SH2 is pretty good but I hate how all Silent Hill games past SH4 try to be the next SH2, where everything is just a random guy chased by his random nightmares that make him remember something he forgot... yeah, awesome, very original. Fuck you faggots. I'm gonna go play SH3

>>718448984 (OP)
outside of pyramid head supposedly being nega-james, i dont remember anything else pointing to the fact that james was actually a rapist
i always saw him killing mary was because of him being overwhelmed with the idea of having to care for her for the rest of his/her life and also the grief of losing her
was there actually something else except pyramid head that alluded to james being rapey?

>>718451737
>Sexual frustration=rape
He didn't have to actually rape his wife for those thoughts to manifest in that way in Silent Hill

>>718465418
wild that some random fucktard on the internet thinks he can determine who is or isn't worth listening to when it comes to the games they worked on