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Bungie could’ve marketed Marathon as a “return to form” after the Destiny live service shit and it would’ve probably generated more hype as people are now jaded towards Destiny and nostalgic for Halo. If you think about it, they really had a home run set up in front of them. They’d be set for the next 20 years remaking Marathon 1-3, giving it the same care they gave to Halo and introducing the IP to a younger audience while also milking Gen X nostalgia but unfortunately hubris and marketing exec influence has eroded the company into trend chasing slop that will probably end up imploding the company and forcing a merge into Sony

nobody actually hates live service games except carebear redditors who only play single player games. If you like a game, you should be praying for it to be live service so it gets more content and stays relevant longer.

>>718452425
"live service" is just an excuse to drip-feed content that otherwise wouldve just been in the base game

>>718451626 (OP)
How would that work? All the veterans were kicked out of Bungie. Bungie died the second they fired Marty O'Donnell and 343i are incredibly retarded, astronomically stupid for not picking him up on the rebound.

Current Bungie employees are pajeets and transfagscisco DEI hires, they stole the art assets from the only white dude that wanted to work with them.
Fact of the matter is that it is not only Bungie, the moment videogame companies became part of publicly traded conglomerates they were mishandled by executives arriving from larger industries with no idea on how this one industry worked. Executives from tv networks and the fast food industry arrived with one directive: reduce costs and increase profit.

This is why you should ignore AAA gaming and focus on the few indie games that are good and new.

>>718451626 (OP)
There is literally zero financial incentive to "return to form" on marathon when you bought them to make more destiny.

>>718451626 (OP)
nigga stfu. cant beleive people are still bitching about this game being multiplayer only. a "remake" of og marathon games would flop horribly and you wouldnt even beat a single game let alone all 3.

>>718452723
you are projecting your zoomer adhd onto me nigga frfr no cap ong

>>718452425
>nobody actually hates live service games
Look I hate the SKG eceleb cocksuckers from the other thread next door BUT live service is cancerous and these games should stay fucking dead.

They robbed us of an entire generation of games since everyone wanted to do their little gacha scam and these games cost in the order of a gorillion dollars. Tango died because the niggress in charge of the xbox division could not see them making a AAAA money printing dopamine injection sim and the industry would rather tunnel into this retarded waste of money than to make several dozen good games with the budget of this one cancer title because they only need 1 to work and this is why Sony will try 3 fucking live service games all bound to end up like Concord.
This is money that could have gone to making at least several dozen AA games.

>return to form
>live service extraction shooter with awful graphics, stiff gameplay and no campaign

I dont think I've ever heard a more retarded opinion on /v/. Truly amazing

>>718453052
What I mean is they could have made a singleplayer focused game with a multiplayer component

>>718452723
>a "remake" of og marathon games would flop horribly
that's true
it's also true that this game will flop
the only winning move was not to play

>>718453174
dude they're never going to make shit, nu bungie are barely capable of creating content that pe ople wanted to play in destiny

all their projects were cancelled, marathon looks like absolute garbage and the company is on the verge of being liquidated by sony
all the talent is GONE.

>>718451626 (OP)
Bungie is a ship of Thesies. Absolutely none of the people responsible for Halos success are at Bungie today.
>Marty
>Joe Staten
>Jamie Griesemer
>Marcus Lehto
>Max Hoberman
>Shi Kai Wang
All gone. Bungie is just a money blackhole filled with pajeets and foids now.

>>718452425
Show me one live service game that has the same longevity as old online games with dedicated servers or mod support...and isn’t a niche title like World of Tanks.

If developers and publishers truly want long term revenue, they should invest in full mod support and dedicated servers. Minecraft is still selling because of the mods and servers.

>>718453754
bungie's full of seattle hipsters, foids and diversity hires

>>718452723
Nobody actually played the og marathon. It has the same energy as people bringing up the old guilty gear or street fighter games when talking about how modern FGs are bad. It's literally people just being posers and namedropping the 'classics' for clout. Fucking pathetic.

>>718452425
Nobody hates live service. Everybody hates the reality of live service.

>>718454014
i played them
i just never beat hte third game because its like a fucking labrynth compared to the rest of the series

>Take niche IP that gets thrown around for ez cred points
>Don't do anything the original IP is known for
>Use the skin of the IP to parade your new game
>?????
>Don't get a return on investment because of it being a niche IP in the first place and then proceed to alienate the potential people who would be interested by name alone by making it not like the originals
Outstanding, vidya industry not learning again.

>>718454223
its obvious that this "new" game of theirs was supposed to be its own thing until someone convinced execs to just use marathon for marketing and licensing reasons

>>718451626 (OP)
>create a kino cinematic+ost fit for a AAA single player shooter with insane graphics
>fuck it up by making it a live service, low fidelity shitstain actively working against the art and character design, and then proceed to not supervise the low level artists who then steal art in the stupidest and laziest way
its like they are trying to fail
https://youtu.be/LL-55_0W7xA?t=142

>>718454014
>or street fighter games
>nobody played the most popular fighting games of all-time
kill yourself zoomer

>>718451626 (OP)
Bungie had to do Marathon as a live service thing because it was the only way they could justify their price tag to Sony because Sony was not interested in anything besides "Bungie the successful live service factory"
If Bungie had done Marathon as basically an HD version of the original Marathon trilogy, there would be no buyers, and Destiny 2 would've finished Bungie's death by a thousand cuts.

They were backed into a corner, they gambled, they fucked up pretty catastrophically with the plagiarism shit, and now all that's left is to play the hand they've built.

>>718452425
Live service isn't a genre, it's a business model. It's like saying nobody hates microtransactions or gacha, which is retarded.

>>718451626 (OP)

I just don't think they have the talent left to do better. Shit like ripping off art assets from some nobody and it making it into the final product is evidence of pervasive laziness and incompetence. A canary in the coal mine.