Thread 718451660

Does it honor the god emperor? Or is it heretical filth?

>>718451660 (OP)
Runs like shit in a letterbox if you manage to get UA up with a 5v5 skirmish. I'd say come back in a few months when everything has been updated.

>>718451660 (OP)
>ai upscaled everything
>runs like shit
>crashes constantly on Soulstorm (who cares about this one, it's fucking soulstorm lmao)
>commits the incredibly gay sin of deleting the originals from steam so you can only get this one now
ehh, it's not terrible but if you already own the originals there's no reason to get this other than the more active multiplayer

>>718452621
>soulstorm
The fact I can't toggle soulstorm off was what killed it for me.

>>718452621
THEY FUCKING REMOVED THE ORIGINALS.

oh i think the annerversary ed did that.

>>718451660 (OP)
it's ok. the graphics are nice and it converts the game to 64bit, so it'll run forever.
performance seems very random depending on specs, so some people say it runs better than original and some say worse. for skirmish/mp, you are forced into soulstorm by default unless you download any mod meant for the other games and run it through that (dawn of skirmish for dark crusade is what i do). they also improved pathfinding by reducing collision size of units which causes its own issues.
overall, it's meh for $17, but if you have to spend more on it than it might be better to wait until they patch it within the next 2months.

>>718452757
This, I'm happy that we at least got this, but why oh why didn't they use Dark Crusade as a base, Dark Eldar and Sisters of Battle fucking suck anyway.

>>718451660 (OP)
Roleplaying as a person in the 40K universe is cringe faggot shit. Kill yourself 'for the emperor' retard

>>718453023
Careful not to cut yourself.

>>718453023
HERETIC DETECTED. EAT BOLTER FIRE, SCUM.

>>718452621
>commits the incredibly gay sin of deleting the originals from steam so you can only get this one now
Pulling the ole Rockstar switcharoo. Way to show your hand after going on about giving back to the fans.

>>718452842
the anniversary edition is also removed now kek

>>718451660 (OP)
>barely improved AI upscaled "graphical update"
>pathfinding is still ass
>can't change keybinds
>original games removed from store
laziest RTS remaster I've seen since W3 reforged
makes sense since GW and Relic are as greedy and incompetent as nuBlizzard

>>718453202
no it isnt. why lie?

>>718451660 (OP)
Im alright with most of the changes but dislike how the necrons are shiny as fuck now
I get that it's a supposedly accurate paintjob but it plays against the visual needs of an rts

>>718452994
This isn't even slightly to scale. How the fuck would an Astartes be shorter than a regular human. And why the fuck doesn't the primarch have a neck.

>>718452994
>Thunder Warrior being a designated peanut brain
Delete this

Is it actually ai upscaled and is there proof of this or is it another of a billion examples of /v/ making shit up and then parroting it as fact? If it is I'll just play the anniversary editions. Although having bought the anniversary editions literally a week before the definitive edition announcement, I dislike how each campaign is its own separate game to run on steam

>>718454263
it's just making shit up. there are valid complaints, but there's a dedicated schizo in /v/ dawn of war threads claiming that the definitive edition is the worst thing since unsliced bread.
you do get a discount on the definitive edition if you own the anniversary edition.

>>718451660 (OP)
DoW 2 is better.

>>718454091
This is to scale based on the size of models, not the lore size.

>>718454091
>How the fuck would an Astartes be shorter than a regular human?
They are perfectly sized for MULTIPLE SIMULTANEOUS and DEVASTATING DEFENSIVE DEEP STRIKES, the Codex Astartes names this maneuver STEEL RAIN. WE ARE THE SPACE MARINES, WE ARE THE EMPEROR'S FURY.

>take vehicle shadows
>turn up the resolution
>apply them to everything
>tank the FPS
>that will be $20 + tip

>>718454263
It's blatant AI if you look at any portrait
It's extra stupid since they are just screenshots of the models anyway

>>718454263
>Unit Portraits – the unit portraits across all armies have a variety of defects and artifacts - New unit portraits have been authored but did not meet our expectations for presentation & legibility and were therefore removed from the game in favor of upscaled versions of the original source. These will be revisited in the coming weeks – see our blog for more information
https://steamcommunity.com/app/3556750/discussions/1/591779517900522135/

any instances of censorship been found yet? There's always something when they do these

>>718456595
I was expecting that they'd throw the AI upscaled portraits out a few months into development, so they aren't really a bad thing. Just frees up resources that they could put towards something more important.

>>718451660 (OP)
pirated it
kind of bad so far
>human models don't look good, sister models are crusty
>model updates are weird, some units look good (necron) others have basically zero work done, imperial guard rifles still look like the original
>units phasing through walls, had orks shoot inside silo
>pathfinding improvement doesn't really exist, if I send 3 marine squads across narrow gap the 3rd squad will just try to cross half of the map and loop back
>original dow campaign is not updated, Imperial guard units can't capture points still

>>718456923
>excusing a shitty lazy ass cashgrab
They didn't do shit to actually improve the game. The only notable change aka "new pathfinding"? Just reduced collision boxes for all the units, which led to another problem of unit stacking
The upscaling is painfully obvious aside from portraits, and it's the shitty kind from 5 years ago that's like a blobby emulator filter and oversharpens low res details
These faggots needed quick and easy money since they split from SEGA last year, DoW + nostalgia is the perfect solution

>>718455691
>reminder CohhCarnage is /here/ but hides his power level since he's a good vibes salesman

>soulstorm campaign
>necron capital
>decide to play smart and jumped right into monolith location with speeders and termies and dread drops
>OI! DO YA HAVE A LOICENSE TO PLAY SMART?! HERE IS YOUR CRASH

>>718451660 (OP)
It's the same game with AI upscaled textures.

Nothing got improved.

It's bad and low effort.
The whole graphical update is really inconsistent. You have some units and textures that are obviously updated and upscaled, like Tau Warriors. And then the fucking face of the franchise, Space Marines, are left virtually untouched.
I feel like they tried to upscale everything, reviewed the results and tossed the textures that looked poor and too much of an AI slop. I don't believe there's a single texture that was redrawn 100% manually

>>718451660 (OP)
Nothing got improved. You can't even rebind fucking hotkeys anymore

>>718453023
He’s not wrong

>>718451660 (OP)
>Does it honor the god emperor? Or is it heretical filth?
The good parts are the DoW parts, If you like DoW it's an HD remake of DoW

But >>718452621 is right, there are some really shitty things they did. Removing the originals is #1 for me. Some people don't want to play Soulstorm all of the time. Dark Crusade is by far my favorite version of Dawn of War compared to the buggy, unfinished mess that is Soulstorm. It's still not finished, the Dark Eldar AI will still fuck up and break in Skirmish because it was never completed even in the original expansion.

I still got it but it's a regretful purchase. I like how the score screen is still in 4:3 resolution so it's fucking letterboxed because they couldn't be assed to remake a score screen. IMO if I knew now what I knew going into it, I wouldn't have bought it on the principle that it means Dark Crusade is gone forever because of Relic's greed and stupidity.

On the bright side, that means it's abandonware and anyone should just steal it because fuck Relic.

>>718458185
>>718451660 (OP)
Yeah I was going to ask, why the fuck can't I press , or . for next army and next builder respectively anymore

I thought it was a bug that would get fixed in a few days but it hasn't been fixed. This was a fundamental addition of Winter Assault that stuck with every game up until this one.

>>718452621
How the fuck can it run like shit? Didn't they update the engine to 64 bit?

With shadows enabled it works like trash but without shadows it has worked perfectly smooth. It might be AMD gpu driver issue or game issue not sure. Its really not a definitive edition and is more akind to the patches fucking blizzard did for free for sc:bw, diablo and wc3 that enabled modern resolutions. 0 reason to buy this if you have originals

>>718458331
>Update it to 64 bit
>Don't optimize it at all or anything, just update a bunch of libraries and stuff in shitloads of upscaling on an engine that was never meant to have it
No joke it runs magnitudes worse than a 32bit version from 20 years ago and is way, way more of a memory hog. Actual Neanderthals work at Relic now.

>>718458094
>And then the fucking face of the franchise, Space Marines, are left virtually untouched.
But anon, face of the franchise are Primaris Space Marines

>>718458331
>How the fuck can it run like shit?
it's the same exact engine, still running on dx9 and still maxing out one CPU thread, which the "new" shadows run on

>>718458331
>take a 20 year old engine
>slap dynamic shadows onto it
>be surprised that the feature it was never intended for kills the performance

What's the Linux/Proton support like?

>>718458746
"Play the originals"

>>718458287
Small indie company please understand

>>718451660 (OP)
Recommended system requirements in 2008 (Soulstorm):
>CPU: 2.4 GHz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent
>RAM: 512 MB RAM (required for 8-player multiplayer games)
>GPU: nVidia GeForce 3 or equivalent with 64 MB of Video RAM

Minimum system requirements in 2025 (DE):
>CPU: Intel i5 6th-gen or AMD Ryzen desktop processor with 4 cores @3GHz, or equivalent performance
>RAM: 8 GB RAM
>GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950, AMD Radeon R9 370 with 2GB of Video RAM

Does Relic even have actual employees any more?

>>718459003
saaaar i am a 10x programmer with AI saaar

>>718454263
This is the whole credits list for Relic.
Do you really believe 5 artists redrew the whole game from scratch?

>>718459003
Yes but barely anyone worked on this shit.
Compare pic related to >>718459083

>>718459083
Where are the jeets?

>>718459142
No jeets, just some eastern european studio in charge of QA

>>718451660 (OP)
Mods like Unification already enhanced most of the textures. DE runs like shit despite looking the exact same.

Should have been a free optional update desu.

>>718459338
Unification is infected with web waifu crap and unfortunately their is no submod to remove it.
Till then UA wins.

Do the mods work? Ultimate apocalypse looks amazing.

>>718459407
MOds are the only reason to get this because they were limited by the 32bits memory limitations.
If you played Unification previously, this is a lifesaver since you had to carefully enable/disable parts of it to keep the game from crashing previously

>>718459502
Seems like the modders are working on a patch. I cant wait!!

Which mod team was it that that straight up said they won't be updating for this version cuz its a fucking mess?

>>718459583
Guessing Titanium Wars because it was made for Dark Crusade and added Soulstorm later only as an afterthought by people who only had Soulstorm and it was always a version or two behind.

>>718459502
will 64 bit be enough? Why not 128?

>>718459671
why not 256 for that matter

>install unification
>start skirmish
>FILTHY GAIJIN, NIPPON BANZAAAAIII
>literal anime women walking around repeating out-of-context voice clips from Bleach

>look up what the fuck they are since they have no official codex
>Some homebrewed Renegade Imperial Guardsmen based on regular guardsmen from like the 1st edition
putting your OC donut steel faction into a mod so you can have anime girls in your gritty warhammer 40K real time strategy game is equal parts based and cringe, and I can't decide which.

is dow 3 worth it if it is really cheap?

>>718460015
it's just an ASSFAGGOTS game, not even worth playing as a joke. Do you like playing DOTA by yourself because hypothetically no one is playing it? That's DoW3.
It's more proof Relic's leadership needed to be dragged out back and shot.

>>718459856
sounds alright, not like 40k lacks weird oddities even in official stuff like the Felinids who are just anime cat girls

>>718452621
>commits the incredibly gay sin of deleting the originals from steam so you can only get this one now
>>718453202
>the anniversary edition is also removed now kek
These are lies

>>718459003
>Does Relic even have actual employees any more?
Seems like a skeleton crew who do nothing. After getting bought then sold by THQ, then bought by SEGA then selling themselves to an investment group there is no one from the original Relic left. Also they fired at least 40 of their employees once they were acquired by the investment group. Considering E33 made a modern game with only 30 employees that seems significant. You could say they were trimming the fat, but what if that was everyone worth a damn left who took some kind of exit option

After the disaster that was Homeworld 3, if they're just rereleasing old games they're probably done

>>718460015
only if you're incredibly curious about why it's so bad
I haven't played it since launch so I've long forgotten, all I remember is that the campaign sucked with all the constant faction changing, and the multiplayer sucked too
also the voice acting really sucked and everyone knows that the voice lines are like half the reason anyone plays dawn of war

>>718458746
It's works out of the box on my Steam Deck

>>718459856
I'm pretty sure you can disable these parts of the mod

>>718459856
Part of the soul of 40k is that you can make up your own OC donut steel army. That's the whole point of having you paint the figures to your liking. As long as you can toggle that shit off its based

>>718460050
Isn't it an RTS? How could they possibly turn that into ASSFAGGOTS?

>>718460551
Simple, Dow3 isn't really an RTS except in the loosest sense of the term. It's a me-too trend chaser that came out when LoL was exploding in popularity.

I immediately set shadows to "Low" because super sharp crisp harsh shadows look completely unrealistic.

>>718460654
also goofy considering that it's usually cloudy/obscured on every map except for a couple to add to the atmosphere

>>718460015
The problem is that it's never really cheap.
It's a game which should go for 3 bucks max since anything more will get you genuinely great older games.
But SEGA has been keeping the price relatively high for a dead game with first timer's mission design throughout the whole campaign.

>>718460284
>After the disaster that was Homeworld 3, if they're just rereleasing old games they're probably done
Anon, HW3 had nothing to do with Relic. It was a different studio under Gearbox.
They just ran into extremely similar problems as modern Relic titles.
Dawn of War 3, Age of Empires 4, Company of Heroes 3... doesn't matter. All of them have absolutely horrid missions, out of touch story and struggle with graphics using modern tech (ironically DoW3 does the best of the three in that regard).

>>718459671
>>718459751
Y'all do know that 32 and 64 refers to how wide the memory address is, and not how much memory right? 32 maxes as ~4GB, while 64bit maxes to 16 million TB

>>718460786
Youre replying to browns bud. They dont know shit

>>718460551
Does someone still have the webms? God, the fucking Wraith tower rush bullshit....

>>718460786
saaar i am relic developer saaar

>>718460551
Did you play DoW2? There was a mode called Last Stand where you and couple other players held out against waves of enemies. That's how they turned it into a moba. They took that concept, took the story/skirmish maps and made them into restrictive lanes and boom your game is suddenly a different genre

>>718460654
>super sharp crisp harsh shadows
are we talking about the same game here? even the maxed out shadows are low res and jaggy by modern standards

>>718455153
>the emperor has a model

>>718460654
but Low doesn't even restore the blob shadows of the original game.

>>718460284
>dauomp it
kek

>>718451660 (OP)
another cash grab on nostalgia
It feels like they just shoved a texture pack and a camera mod into the game, the pathfinding is still disgusting, campaigns crash, scripts are buggy, which makes it impossible to complete the task.
Garbage.