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Anonymous No.718453323 >>718453393 >>718453882 >>718454505 >>718455571 >>718457120 >>718457468 >>718457967 >>718458120 >>718458351 >>718459465 >>718459681 >>718460403 >>718460434 >>718460919 >>718462503 >>718462801 >>718462935 >>718463350 >>718463509 >>718463998 >>718464018 >>718464047 >>718464572 >>718465046 >>718467420 >>718470878 >>718482593 >>718484250 >>718485473 >>718489080 >>718492526 >>718496008 >>718507601 >>718507706 >>718510387 >>718520378 >>718521630 >>718524057 >>718525190
Why haven't you learned Japanese to play jap games??
Anonymous No.718453393 >>718461768
>>718453323 (OP)
peropero shinai de kudasai?
Anonymous No.718453571 >>718500229
I don't really care that much about Japanese games. If I was going to learn a new language it would be something that's common around where I live. Would be useful for work and stuff.
Anonymous No.718453660 >>718457168
because I don't play japanese games and I think japanese is an extremely ugly sounding language
Anonymous No.718453802 >>718454163
Obvious bait, Chinese and Korean sound even uglier
Anonymous No.718453882
>>718453323 (OP)
im gonna the ใƒšใƒญใƒšใƒญ and you cant stop me
Anonymous No.718454147
posted it again award
Anonymous No.718454163 >>718454395 >>718454437 >>718454936 >>718458336 >>718458438 >>718459693 >>718460372 >>718460714 >>718463135 >>718463203 >>718464858 >>718465837 >>718466989 >>718467684 >>718482949 >>718483418
>>718453802
You didn't dispute that it sounds ugly though. Chinese sounds not so bad, but Korean and Japanese sound ugly as shit
Anonymous No.718454395 >>718464945 >>718482614 >>718497507 >>718531989
>>718454163
>Chinese sounds not so bad
Anonymous No.718454398 >>718461225
I did it and it wasn't worth it compared to the effort it took to learn everything. The only thing that's changed is porn and asmr. The quality of their material is eons ahead of everyone else
Anonymous No.718454437
>>718454163
It all sounds like ching chong ping pong to me
Anonymous No.718454505
>>718453323 (OP)
maybe because jap games are trash?
Anonymous No.718454695 >>718455697 >>718456858 >>718457468 >>718461225
honestly i would if it wasn't so goddamn hard.
seriously you have to learn like 3 alphabet just to understand the basics.
Anonymous No.718454936 >>718455143
>>718454163
Chinese is one of, if not the ugliest languages there is. fucking 50 vowels that all sound the same, and words changing meaning by their tone
Anonymous No.718455143
>>718454936
>words changing meaning by their tone
plenty of languages do this, English included
Anonymous No.718455571 >>718457079
>>718453323 (OP)
I'm glad I learned Japanese
Anonymous No.718455697 >>718456858 >>718458521 >>718461580
>>718454695
2 of the alphabets are easy mode and can be learned in less than a week.
Kanji is where you'll eat shit.
Anonymous No.718456858 >>718457043
>>718454695
>honestly i would if it wasn't so goddamn hard.
Same
>seriously you have to learn like 3 alphabet just to understand the basics.
Pretty much

>>718455697
>2 of the alphabets are easy mode and can be learned in less than a week.
My brother in Christ. It's time to stop being hyperbolic.


It would be nice to have a friend to learn it with. One of my nieces is a weeb, so maybe if we get closer then I'll ask if she'd be interested in learning together somehow. I've looked up if playing Gen 1 Pokรฉmon would be a decent way to learn, but I hear that since they just use hiragana that a lot of words are confusing. I've also wondered if watching baby tier anime without subtitles would help, but I kind of doubt it. Maybe if I just played Irasshai on loop forever while I do things, if I would subconsciously start learning. Again...doubt it, and I don't think I'd mentally handle watching/listening to 1 thing over and over again. Anyone know if those "Learning Japanese to..." games are worthwhile?
Anonymous No.718457043 >>718457297 >>718458245
>>718456858
>>2 of the alphabets are easy mode and can be learned in less than a week.
>My brother in Christ. It's time to stop being hyperbolic.

Huh? But I did learn hiragana and katakana under a week. I used the hiragana and katakana decks from anki.
At the same time I did a buttload of https://gohoneko.neocities.org/learn/kana until I managed to do 200 random kanas with only like ~5 errors.
What's hyperbolic about that?
Anonymous No.718457079
>>718455571
being able to read untranslated loli ero doujins has ruined my life tho
Anonymous No.718457120
>>718453323 (OP)
All the japanese games I play are translated into english
Anonymous No.718457168 >>718457665
>>718453660
>because I don't play japanese games and I think japanese is an extremely ugly sounding language
It's literally the only Asian language that sounds good at all. Chinese sounds like those fuckers are talking backwards with how the phonetics work.
Anonymous No.718457297 >>718457457
>>718457043
If you are genuinely questioning why I said what I said, then you are autistic. I'm not saying that in a mean way. You simply are not understanding the clear meaning of my words and how they apply to what you said and how you seem to perceive people. I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'm not saying you didn't learn these things and commit them to memory in less than a week; but for you to imply that everyone is capable of what you are capable of, tells me you are very disconnected with people in general
Anonymous No.718457457
>>718457297
I only said that the kanas were easy mode and that it was posssible to learn them in under a week.
I apologize if I came off as "lmao ur a fucking idiot if you take more time to learn them :^))" this wasn't my intention. Obviously different people are going to learn things at different rates.
Anonymous No.718457468
>>718453323 (OP)
I started learning but slowed because my Japanese speaking friend is ghosting me so my goal of doing a trip together is meaningless now. Even if we did the trip it would be like tagging along with a stranger.
>>718454695
Kana is the same as letters you should be done with it in a month. Kanji are insane sure but you'll quickly learn that the hardest aspect of the language is their adept use of simple grammar and -isms that have to be deciphered instantly. Natives speak a mile a second it's completely insufferable to listen to. Kanji is a daily effort and anybody can learn it with dedication or do you think there aren't Japanese retards?
Anonymous No.718457653 >>718457758 >>718457832 >>718462096
I just finished memorizing the kanas. Now kanji?
Anonymous No.718457665 >>718457951 >>718458250 >>718463410 >>718467080
>>718457168
Agreed. Japanese has a very beautiful and sophisticated flow to it. Chinese/Mandarin, or whatever the fuck it's called, is extremely harsh, angry, and guttural. Vietnamese is barely any better. Feels like you're being sprayed with a bullet of words. Korean sits much higher above these two, but tends to still sound harsh. Japanese mogs everything else and it's not even close. Any languages I didn't name literally doesn't matter.
Anonymous No.718457758
>>718457653
Yes.
Welcome to hell, enjoy your stay.
Anonymous No.718457832
>>718457653
ah yes the mindbreak stage
Anonymous No.718457951
>>718457665
I watched a ton of Chinese TV shows and now I think spoken Chinese actually sounds alright. Chinese singing, however, is irredeemable. I think Islam has a law against public singing, but Confucius should've come up with it instead.

Korean just sounds like someone saying gibberish in Japanese. Sometimes there are even Japanese words in there.
Anonymous No.718457967 >>718458739
>>718453323 (OP)
i basically learned it from vtubers in 2020 but it takes me 10 times as long to read a sentence in japanese as it does in english
Anonymous No.718458120
>>718453323 (OP)
I was trying to learn hiragana but my third shift schedule really fucks up my time for hobbies and other things. I was memorizing the first four columns of hiragana but I gotta go back now and rememorize everything since I hadnโ€™t study in like 3 months
Anonymous No.718458157 >>718458205
mfw azunyan a-cups and tummy
Anonymous No.718458205 >>718458226 >>718459331 >>718532062
>>718458157
Anonymous No.718458226 >>718458337 >>718458632
>>718458205
Anonymous No.718458245
>>718457043
i think that anon is pasting things from reddit ironically or is actually special needs. no one in history has ever considered the phonetics part of japanese hard, and then there's some paragraph about his niece and pokemon... ?

yeah just imagine the type.
Anonymous No.718458250
>>718457665
>Korean sits much higher above these two,
fuck no, it sounds like rats drowning
chinkese can sometimes sound passable in songs, gook straight out cannot
Anonymous No.718458336
>>718454163
lol
Anonymous No.718458337 >>718458516 >>718458632 >>718477141
>>718458226
Anonymous No.718458351 >>718458490
>>718453323 (OP)
I'm just gonna wait for the real-time AI translators and spare the effort
Anonymous No.718458438
>>718454163
nah japanese sounds fine. Korean isnt bad either but they always sound like they're incredibly shocked/angry at very minor things.
chinese and SEA languages sound really shit
Anonymous No.718458490
>>718458351
have fun with that
Anonymous No.718458516
>>718458337
need to bury my face in that so bad
Anonymous No.718458518
wish I started
on top of vidya, their modelling community is insane
Anonymous No.718458521 >>718458704 >>718462913 >>718464975
>>718455697
I'm assuming that just learning Hiragana and Katakana would be sufficient for most circumstances? If you only wrote with those 2 could you get by okay or would people think you were retarded?
Anonymous No.718458632 >>718458686
>>718458337
>>718458226
Anonymous No.718458686 >>718463186
>>718458632
Anonymous No.718458704
>>718458521
Probably the latter.
And while you might be able to read stuff made for kids you're gonna have to learn kanji at some point for more complex stuff.
Here's a site with a bunch of books sorted by levels to get some practice https://tadoku.org/japanese/en/free-books-en/

I'd recommend reading shounen mangas too since those generally comes with furiganas for kanjis.
Anonymous No.718458739
>>718457967
how is that possible and shouldn't you be reading fast if that's true?
Anonymous No.718459331 >>718459712
>>718458205
EVERY DAY
EVERY NIGHT
Anonymous No.718459465 >>718463796 >>718464151
>>718453323 (OP)
>he plays games with pictures
embarrassing, all of you
Anonymous No.718459681
>>718453323 (OP)
what about rero-rero then?
Anonymous No.718459693
>>718454163
>ลผhฤฏรคลxรฌฤรธวฐฬฃฤซรฃลpแป‹ฤฦกรงhรญรฅรด sounds not so bad
Literally the ugliest language on all of mainland Asia
Anonymous No.718459712 >>718460413
>>718459331
Doing what
Anonymous No.718460034 >>718460134 >>718461817 >>718462972
I tried, I'm just too retarded to learn a new language.
Anonymous No.718460134 >>718460281
>>718460034
you wouldn't be typing on this website if you were
Anonymous No.718460253
a k-on bullying game
Anonymous No.718460281
>>718460134
just resting between my reps
Anonymous No.718460372
>>718454163
>Chinese sounds not so bad
lol you changshill are doing a really bad job of blending in
Anonymous No.718460403
>>718453323 (OP)
ใƒšใƒญใƒšใƒญ Azunyan
Anonymous No.718460413
>>718459712
Breeding azunyans
Anonymous No.718460434
>>718453323 (OP)
ใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ๆˆ‘ๆ…ขใงใใชใ„โ€ฆ
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Anonymous No.718460714
>>718454163
>Chinese sounds not so bad
Anonymous No.718460919
>>718453323 (OP)
Ackhtually I did a basic N5 and now that I can do basic reading I can play my collection of old Japanese PS1 games. Can't understand a lick of spoken Japanese though which meant I missed out on more than half of what was going on in Moonlight Syndrome.
Anonymous No.718461225 >>718461303 >>718462195
>>718454398
now that makes it all worth it then.

>>718454695
it's a gatekeeping system. It's also why lots of highschoolers can't fluently read a newspaper. It's a retardedly thought out language.

I learned basic jap when I was a kid, around 11-12. I still read katakana and hiragana fluently, back at the time kanji buck broke me and just quit. Now, a gorillion years later, I realize I should have spammed listening/understanding spoken jap at the time but alas, I didn't. Going full reading/writing is like studying only music theory when learning an instrument, it's bound to burn you out since it's so boring and useless until you reach higher levels of understanding.
I still regret not learning it properly simply to add to my language skills, even useless languages like italian or french are always fun to have in your toolbox.
The only really useful languages to learn would be english and spanish, followed by sandnigger runes and chinese.
Anonymous No.718461303 >>718461625
>>718461225
>t-they can't read
then explain why firthy gaijin can
>tacospeak
you're hilarious. I'd elaborate but I don't want to get sent on an early vacation
Anonymous No.718461580 >>718461750 >>718461838 >>718464345
>>718455697
>2 of the alphabets are easy mode and can be learned in less than a week.
everyone says that but it took me months and I still suck at it sometimes, is something wrong with me?
Anonymous No.718461625 >>718461709
>>718461303
>then explain why firthy gaijin can

gaijin reading newspapers in english? because english is a more efficiently built language.
if you meant something else then you're retarded.

>you're hilarious. I'd elaborate but I don't want to get sent on an early vacation

oh it's only the most used language per number of countries in the world, surely it must be useless! The default lingua franca is english, but spanish comes really close behind it. But, by all means, keep being a languagelet. It doesn't really change much if you never leave your mom's basement.
Anonymous No.718461709 >>718461838
>>718461625
vuelta a casa jose
Anonymous No.718461750 >>718461838
>>718461580
no. it takes time to get accustomed to read it. you'll slowly improve as you consume more media. progress also depends on how many hours you sink. 1 hour a week is nothing compared to drilling every day
Anonymous No.718461768
>>718453393
hai
peropero shiteru ha tottemo warui desu
Anonymous No.718461817
>>718460034
stop making excuses. there are bilingual babies. learning a language is a function of time and effort, not intelligence.
Anonymous No.718461838
>>718461580
>>718461750
this. Just practice through use. "learning" it in two weeks is doable, reading it quickly takes a lot more time than that.

>>718461709
nice try, ranjeet.
Anonymous No.718462075 >>718462239 >>718462282 >>718462440 >>718463748
>normal language learners: remember to also review your lessons and do the exercises
>self-proclaimed language experts of 4chan: just read more, all the pieces will magically fall together
Anonymous No.718462096
>>718457653
With how many readings and meanings common kanji can have I wouldn't recommend isolated kanji studies for a beginner. The radicals however make for very good study material to help you recognize kanji and categorize them and then learn the characters through words initially. So for example the use of ็”Ÿ in the words sei ็”Ÿ or ikiru ็”Ÿใใ‚‹ you will probably encounter very early on, learning the readings used in other words like haeru ็”Ÿใˆใ‚‹, umu ็”Ÿใ‚€ or namaiki ็”Ÿๆ„ๆฐ— can wait until you get there.
Anonymous No.718462123
srsly
Anonymous No.718462195 >>718462282 >>718462342
>>718461225
>lots of highschoolers can't fluently read a newspaper
this isn't true at all
Anonymous No.718462239
>>718462075
immersing is very important though
Anonymous No.718462282 >>718462448 >>718462564
>>718462075
it actually is like that.
I've studied Italian formally for years only to go up 300% in just a year of living there and having to use it daily. Standard language lessons are a meme. Reading and speaking/trial and error is where it's at. We have a brain that's literally made for that.

>>718462195
it is. and do remember I said "fluently", no "not at all"
Anonymous No.718462342
>>718462195
not japanese, but a lot of people in my country can't distinguish between two ver ysimilar words and keep misuing both of them constantly
just one example but there's a ton more
dumb people can't speak for shit, even in their mother's tongue
Anonymous No.718462382
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่กจ็ด™็ตตใฎใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใŒๅƒ•ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใž!ใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใŒๅƒ•ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใž!ๆŒฟ็ตตใฎใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใŒๅƒ•ใ‚’่ฆ‹ใฆใ‚‹ใž!!

ใ‚ขใƒ‹ใƒกใฎใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใŒๅƒ•ใซ่ฉฑใ—ใ‹ใ‘ใฆใ‚‹ใž!!!ใ‚ˆใ‹ใฃใŸโ€ฆไธ–ใฎไธญใพใ ใพใ ๆจใฆใŸใƒขใƒณใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใ‚“ใ ใญใฃ!

ใ„ใ‚„ใฃใปใ‰ใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠใŠ!!!ๅƒ•ใซใฏใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใŒใ„ใ‚‹!!ใ‚„ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ‚ฑใƒ†ใ‚ฃ!!ใฒใจใ‚Šใงใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ‚“!!!

ใ‚ใ€ใ‚ณใƒŸใƒƒใ‚ฏใฎใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใกใ‚ƒใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚“!!ใ„ใ‚„ใใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚!!!!

ใ‚ใฃใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚ใฃใ‚ใ‚ใ‚“ใ‚ใ‚ขใƒณๆง˜ใใ‚!!ใ‚ปใ€ใ‚ปใ‚คใƒใƒผ!!ใ‚ทใƒฃใƒŠใใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚ใ‚!!!ใƒดใ‚ฃใƒซใƒ˜ใƒซใƒŸใƒŠใใ‚ใ‚ใ‚!!

ใ†ใ†ใฃใ†ใ…ใ†ใ†!!ไฟบใฎๆƒณใ„ใ‚ˆใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใธๅฑŠใ‘!!ใƒใƒซใ‚ฑใ‚ฎใƒ‹ใ‚ขใฎใ‚ขใ‚บใกใ‚ƒใ‚“ใธๅฑŠใ‘!ไฟบใฏๅฎŸใฏใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆ่Œใˆใชใ‚“ใ ใฃ!!
Anonymous No.718462440 >>718463765
>>718462075
you're right anon. language is acquired by doing conjugation drills in a grammar textbook, not by actually using the language. this is why everyone who took 4 years of french in high school is now fluent, because that technique is so effective.
Anonymous No.718462448
>>718462282
>speaking
you see, self-proclaimed language gurus online say you don't speak, only read and listen. because who cares since if never be there
Anonymous No.718462503
>>718453323 (OP)
>Why haven't you learned Japanese to play jap games??
I'm lazy and whenever I fail at something, I get upset at myself and end up stopping.
Anonymous No.718462564 >>718462997
>>718462282
I'll never understand why people feel the need to make shit up about Japan on the internet oh well
Anonymous No.718462801
>>718453323 (OP)
Im working on it, it just sucks because it makes games feel like work. Ive been playing scarlet in japanese but it saps my motivation to think about how much Ill need to focus even to play a baby game like that
Anonymous No.718462913
>>718458521
>If you only wrote with those 2 could you get by okay or would people think you were retarded?
you'd look retarded, but if its on pc and you spell it right, it should autocorrect to the right kanji. Learning kanji helps with vocab though, and while some games have kana options, if you ever want to read books or even seinen manga you need kanji
Anonymous No.718462935
>>718453323 (OP)
I only have so much time/energy to study a new hobby, and learning Jap would take me forever. Musicfagging has been a lot of fun.
Anonymous No.718462972 >>718463016
>>718460034
just fuck around on wanikani, its like a game
Anonymous No.718462997 >>718463808
>>718462564
but I don't.
Take any language with a primarily phonetic system. There will be people who struggle with "hard" words and their meaning/pronunciation, but they'll be able to read them, even if with difficulty. In shit with kanji et similia, you don't even get to read it if you're not at the proper level. If you only take a decently educated population sample, then yes, but go ask the fisherman's son in bumfuck hillls to go read the newspaper to you.
Anonymous No.718463016
>>718462972
>paying for porn
Anonymous No.718463135 >>718463218 >>718463805
>>718454163
I don't speak any of the following languages but to me it sounds like
>Chinese
Yong, hweet SHU luo hi fu wa JI TSHU
>Japanese
Takara wa joshi deki na ka?
>Korean
*Chinese but slighly more chokey*
Anonymous No.718463186
>>718458686
what's this artist again? it's been so many years
Anonymous No.718463203
>>718454163
japanese sounds like birds chirping
chinese sounds like english audio played in reverse
Anonymous No.718463218
>>718463135
imho korean sounds really similar to jap, albeit uglier.
Anonymous No.718463350
>>718453323 (OP)
I can kind of understand spoken japanese but learning how to read all these runes just seems like too much work just to play some vidya.
Anonymous No.718463410
>>718457665
japanese is very syllabic, it feels very organized and pleasing to the ears
chinese asmr is pretty good, though, since it already sounds like slurred
Anonymous No.718463412
Because you kept telling me every day that I can't learn Japanese, kiddo.
Anonymous No.718463429 >>718463960
https://youtu.be/qBClLIT_aLU?si=s2tbPRIxeL788goo

You'll never be good at speaking Japanese.
Anonymous No.718463509 >>718463765 >>718464051 >>718464090
>>718453323 (OP)
How am I supposed to learn Japanese? I'm not going back to school.
Anonymous No.718463748 >>718463847
>>718462075
Hyper autismo immersion learners actually achieve their goals of being able to enjoy native content. "normal language learners" spend years doing duolingo or wasting money on classes and never even reach an N4 level because they spend 2 months writing out conjugation charts
Anonymous No.718463765
>>718462440
4 years of french 2 hours a week is nothing
>black and white thinking
you have the brain of a chimp
>>718463509
you pick up the syllabaries and learn them
you pick up a grammar guide like tae kim's and work your way through it. then you look up grammar as you go in reference material (e.g. dictionaries of japanese grammar)
you look up how to say certain phrases (e.g. if you want to say a long time ago, you have to choose between mukashi (as in long ago, when men lived in caves...), hisashiburi (as in it's been a long while since it last snowed), tokku ni (as in he left a long time ago), etc.)
needless to say, the hardest part will be learning how to express shit. moonrunes just take time and have plenty of tricks to them
Anonymous No.718463796 >>718464061
>>718459465
I want to play this game, the trailer looks so good, but I'm not confident enough to play it.
Anonymous No.718463805
>>718463135
>Korean
aaahhhniyoooooo ooh shi oooheeoooooooo
Anonymous No.718463808 >>718464175
>>718462997
you understand that you're now saying something completely different from "lots of highschoolers can't fluently read a newspaper", right?
Anonymous No.718463847
>>718463748
>anyone who doesn't use my method is a stupid dope who falls for obvious scams
jesus you're retarded
>enjoying native content
being half-literate is nothing to be proud of
Anonymous No.718463865 >>718464049 >>718464398 >>718464561
Should I learn Japanese or Chinese? I think chinks are vastly more interesting than nips because they still have culture that isn't americanized
Anonymous No.718463910
Because I'm learning Welsh
Anonymous No.718463960
>>718463429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6H168Hp-pk
Anonymous No.718463998 >>718511813
>>718453323 (OP)
But I have. It was mostly for manga and h-games though.
Anonymous No.718464018 >>718464107
>>718453323 (OP)
don't play gook games
don't have yellow fever
>anime
VA only, reading is for the books
>manga
they can't even figure out how to read from left to right, fuck them
Anonymous No.718464047
>>718453323 (OP)
I did learnt japanese thought
Anonymous No.718464049 >>718464158
>>718463865
If you think the Chinese have culture, you should read the Three Body Problem. If you're still interested in the mindset of bugs after that, learn Chinese.
Anonymous No.718464051
>>718463509
Personally, brother showed me the migii app which is based on actual N5 papers. Used to do that pretty much every day whenever I was free. Supplemented it with genki books he also had but not that much. Then when I had grinded out the basics enough I just started playing games in Japanese with a translator app on hand. It was very slow at first, needing to stop and read every sentence multiple times over, but I've gotten much faster after continued play. But if you're talking about actual fluency then there's no substitute for living in Japan. Brother and I talked about it before but anyone learning a language starts to build an ego from studying in a bubble which you absolutely need to have broken by actually going to the country. He had that experience with Chinese and I with French.
Anonymous No.718464061 >>718464561
>>718463796
there's a demo out with the tutorial. see if you're up to it. the puzzles aren't super hard (just shit like taking a ไธ from a word, cutting a ใ‹ from a question). if you want to understand every single itty bitty word in the flavor text, then yes it's quite complex since you have some words like ็ฃŠ็ฃŠ and ๆ‘ฉ่€—, ๅŸ้Š่ฉฉไบบ, etc. but you can look them up I guess
Anonymous No.718464090 >>718464227
>>718463509
memorize hiragana
try to memorize katakana (you won't, don't worry they don't either)
read something with furigana (the cheater letters above some kanji)
you don't know that word so look it up in jisho and pick the one with the matching kanji
look hard at that kanji, maybe you'll remember it next time
grammar? just wing it you want the vocabulary and a small grasp of te-form which is essentially analogous to english past/current/future tense but it's all wacky and it has like 5000 conditionals
Anonymous No.718464107
>>718464018
Kill yourself necoarc newnigger tertiary
Anonymous No.718464151 >>718464407
>>718459465
Oh hey, this came out on Steam? Guess I'll pirate it, I saw it in the switch event thing and couldn't be bothered pulling my console out for it.
Anonymous No.718464158
>>718464049
That's been on my list for a long long time
Anonymous No.718464175
>>718463808
no, not moving the goalposts. Just pointing out how jap structure is fundamentally different from say, english or french and is what gatekeeps it from most people that are trying to learn.
Anonymous No.718464227 >>718464610
>>718464090
>try to memorize katakana (you won't
Katakana isn't that hard to remember aside from a few.
Anonymous No.718464345
>>718461580
The ideal is to not study kana at all beyond a quick cursory glance and then slowly memorize it over the course of months while you immerse.
Anonymous No.718464398
>>718463865
The Chinese have systematically killed their culture through decades in communism. It's a spiritually dead country of bug people. Most vaguely interesting Chinese stuff is from Taiwan, but it's smaller and even more Americanized than Japan. Learn Japanese.
Anonymous No.718464407 >>718464458 >>718469609
>>718464151
>Guess I'll pirate it
lol good luck. it has the same DRM that made handball '17 impervious to piracy
Anonymous No.718464458 >>718464710 >>718469609
>>718464407
No wonder they made it 30 bucks. Well, I don't care enough to pay that much for a translation.
Anonymous No.718464561
>>718464061
Thanks, I'm going to try the demo on steam.
The music in this game sounds so good too.

>>718463865
Sure, if your country is part of BRICS or close to one
Anonymous No.718464572 >>718464647 >>718464659 >>718466982 >>718481347 >>718500764
>>718453323 (OP)
what's the best way to learn Japanese? I really want to and I don't care how hard it is, but I also don't want to fall into dumb habits or learn it the "wrong" way
Anonymous No.718464610
>>718464227
it isn't, but the point is japanese people still genuinely forget it too, and not just because because some strokes appear near identical in low resolution
instead you're trying to parse the entire word it would make up instead of the individual characters, like you would with most languages
Anonymous No.718464647
>>718464572
Take any advice received from 4chan with a massive pinch of salt would be a good starting point.
Anonymous No.718464659 >>718492242
>>718464572
You spend an hour learning kana, check the grammar from Japanese the Manga Way if you're an EOP or Tae Kim if you're an ESL, and then do a core2k anki deck followed by mining new words from whatever you're reading, at 20 new cards a day, and spending less than 30 minutes a day in anki.

Follow those simple steps, and you'll be fluent in no time.
Anonymous No.718464710 >>718469609
>>718464458
no it doesn't have denuvo. it has the other DRM i.e. that no one fucking played it
Anonymous No.718464776 >>718464862 >>718465007
Search for Brain Structure on Spotify. It's Hideo Kojima's podcast. Some are in English but most are in Japanese. Great to put on while doing other stuff. Mindless exposure.
Anonymous No.718464858
>>718454163
Japanese sounds fine, it's their writing system that's beyond retarded.
Anonymous No.718464862
>>718464776
Why would anyone want to listen to Kojimbo nazel gaving? His last good interview was over 30 years ago when he was blatantly seething about Tengai Makyo 2 doing better than Snatcher.
Anonymous No.718464945
>>718454395
Bet he's playing LoL.
Anonymous No.718464975
>>718458521
>I'm assuming that just learning Hiragana and Katakana would be sufficient for most circumstances
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHA YOU'RE HILARIOUS
Anonymous No.718465007
>>718464776
>Hideo Kojima's podcast
Anonymous No.718465046 >>718465307
>>718453323 (OP)
>learn trannypanese to play tranime "gaymes"
No thanks.
Anonymous No.718465307
>>718465046
what games do you play anon? help me
Anonymous No.718465826 >>718465983
watashi wa too fukuingu retardesu
Anonymous No.718465837
>>718454163
Spoken Chinese sounds dreadful. The constant spastic tone shifts are extremely grating.
Anonymous No.718465983
>>718465826
Learning a new language is literally the easiest shit imaginable. Babies can do it, retards can do it, you've got to be a non-functioning autist to fail.
Anonymous No.718466767 >>718467006 >>718467020 >>718467250 >>718467569
Shit on Duolingo all you want but it's fine for simple practice and building your vocab.
Anonymous No.718466982 >>718492242
>>718464572
Make sure to start with Cure Dolly for grammar. It's fucking bizarre but it's legit. I started with her and that's why I never had a problem with ใŒ and ใฏ particles since fucking day 1. Tae Kim illustrates grammar rules with decent example sentences, but his explanation of the rules themselves is sometimes wrong.
Anonymous No.718466989
>>718454163
Chink detected.
Anonymous No.718467006
>>718466767
why would i want to pay to build my vocab where i could just use renshuu or some shit for free
Anonymous No.718467020 >>718467193
>>718466767
It really isn't. The problem with duolingo is the same as the problem with language classes, it trains you to do things wrong, a year of duolingo is like a week of regular study.

And "regular study" doesn't mean 16 hours a day in front of a textbook. It means 30 minutes a fucking day with real material that isn't "the cat went to the library" tier text.
Anonymous No.718467080
>>718457665
>I like japanese because the only content I consume at all is undubbed japanese anime!!!
there's a reason why you aren't interested in the languages of stuff you don't listen to
Anonymous No.718467193 >>718467341
>>718467020
>30 minutes a fucking day
Anonymous No.718467250
>>718466767
It's so laughably bad compared to literally any alternative. It might actually be worse than nothing.
You won't be able to read or listen to japanese after any amount of time with Duolingo, so why use it? What's the point of learning a language if you don't plan to use it?
The point is to get to the point where you can just read and listen so you're not "practicing" any more than you're "practicing" English when you shitpost here.
Anonymous No.718467341 >>718467445
>>718467193
>he doesn't know about homeopathic studying
the more you dilute your studying, the stronger the effect. Right now I'm doing 1 word in anki a day.
Anonymous No.718467420 >>718467656
>>718453323 (OP)
>>718390083
We had this same thread yesterday. Can't you wait a while before making it again?
Anonymous No.718467445
>>718467341
Casual. I simply think about maybe studying Japanese for 30 seconds a day.
Anonymous No.718467569
>>718466767
Vocab you could argue sure, but it's teaching you a very particular type of learning. Call and respond, something that works for a sort of test environment but not really for actually learning how to speak the language. It's also very structured whereas the moment you actually start reading/listening you'll notice Japanese people don't just speak in just formal sentences alone.
Anonymous No.718467656
>>718467420
Every day is repost day.
Anonymous No.718467684
>>718454163
Chinese only works in kung fu movies or when they are trying to make a point of conflict between a nip and a chink. Cantonese is slightly better and my only real exposure to spoken gook was through Tekken with Hwowrang and Baek. The former was too quiet to understand most of the time and his master was like a motor mouth.
Anonymous No.718467709 >>718467758 >>718467787 >>718468328 >>718512817
Surely millions of Japs are struggling with English as we speak. A mutual language training partner seems like a win-win scenario, but I don't know how one would go about getting one. You don't speak English with a horrendously thick ESL accent, do you, /v/?
Anonymous No.718467758 >>718468137
>>718467709
>You don't speak English with a horrendously thick ESL accent, do you, /v/?
I kinda do (Australian).
Anonymous No.718467787
>>718467709
>he doesn't know about the hordes of sirs looking to teach Japan how to do the needful
Imagine the pidgen tongue that is going to spawn from that pairing. No more qt nippons calling you a nigaruu.
Anonymous No.718468137
>>718467758
i do and i don't care. i even thicken my accent on purpose
Anonymous No.718468328 >>718513697
>>718467709
Unless you have a long term job just go be a JET. Low cost of living, working with bilinguals, and even in the boonies there are people to study with.
Anonymous No.718469609
>>718464407
>>718464458
>>718464710
The main problem is it's in jap only, so western sites won't pick it up
Anonymous No.718470705
Sex with Cure Dolly
Anonymous No.718470779
Sex with Cure Dolly
Anonymous No.718470878 >>718471617 >>718472637 >>718513145
>>718453323 (OP)
learning another language isn't worth it unless you plan to actually move to that country.
Anonymous No.718471617 >>718476537
>>718470878
What the fuck do you mean by worth it?
Anonymous No.718472637 >>718473981
>>718470878
Being able to read any eromanga and play any eroge I want was absolutely worth it for me.
Anonymous No.718473981
>>718472637
Reading artist CG sets alone was worth it, after you throw in doujinshi, ero-voice, nukige, regular games, TV, youtube and movies, and probably half a dozen other things I'm forgetting, my only regret in life is not learning it earlier so I could spend more of my life having fun.
Anonymous No.718476537 >>718477493
>>718471617
If it is worth consuming, it is in english already.
>but
No.
Anonymous No.718477141
>>718458337
Erotic
Anonymous No.718477493
>>718476537
You aren't getting the actual work, just what someone else thinks the work is. Not to mention that what you want to consume may not be interesting enough to other people to warrant translation, and niche stuff is less likely to get a professional translator unless it's a real passion project.
Anonymous No.718478387 >>718478559
japanese is gay
China No.1
Anonymous No.718478559
>>718478387
>implying there's a single untranslated chinese vidya worth playing
Anonymous No.718480234
Anonymous No.718481347
>>718464572
The smallest amount of learning Japanese is worth more than any amount of learning about learning Japanese
Anonymous No.718481545 >>718482317 >>718514783 >>718526736
what games have you been playing recently in japanese?
Anonymous No.718482317
>>718481545
omori :^)
Anonymous No.718482406 >>718482719 >>718484920 >>718508101 >>718515116
ใ‚‚ใ†่ฆšใˆใŸใ‚“ใ ใ‘ใฉ
ๅ‡บๆฅใชใ„ๅ…ฑใ‚‰ใจไธ€็ท’ใ—ใชใ„ใงใใ‚Œใ‚‹?
Anonymous No.718482593
>>718453323 (OP)
Why did you post this thread again?
Anonymous No.718482614
>>718454395
You can only wish you could get that immersed in any western games nowadays. At best they could make you vomit in real time after seeing their ugly ass characters kiss each other in an unskippable cutscene. Immersion!
Anonymous No.718482719 >>718483185
>>718482406
ใธใŸใใwww
Anonymous No.718482949 >>718498814
>>718454163
Soft spoken Chinese girls are really cute actually. Gives me ASMR tingles.
Anonymous No.718483185
>>718482719
ใŠใพใ„ใ†www
Anonymous No.718483418
>>718454163
>Chinese sounds not so bad
laughinggirls.gif
Anonymous No.718483785 >>718484282
Do you sometimes have days/weeks where you forget a bunch of words that you knew before (I mean during Anki reviews)? Or maybe start mixing them up with other words? What do you do to fix this?
Anonymous No.718484250
>>718453323 (OP)
I got my N4 on JLPT a few months ago.
Still not disillusioned by Anki.
It's obviously not much and it's definitely a decade away from understanding even the simplest of games but it's a surprisingly fun process as I'm playing some kusoge or watching anime and noticing words that I now know.
้ ‘ๅผตใ‚Šใพใ™!
Anonymous No.718484282
>>718483785
Read or some shit. It's easier to recall words when you see them in practice compared to flashcards.
Anonymous No.718484606 >>718484784 >>718484972 >>718486191
Is Duolingo a meme
Anonymous No.718484784 >>718485628
>>718484606
It's ok for learning and memorizing the initial hirogana and katakana but after that it's a complete waste of time.
Anonymous No.718484920 >>718485224
>>718482406
ใ‚นใ‚ดใ‚ค!ใŠๅ‰ๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๆ—ฅๆœฌไบบใ˜ใ‚ƒใชใ„ใฎ?
Anonymous No.718484972
>>718484606
Yeah. They keep having translate sentences between languages. Which you don't want to do. Thinking of close equivalents for words or phrases in your native tongue is fine. Unavoidable if you think in your native language. But what you really want to do is read the JP sentence and understand the meaning. You don't need to put it into in terms of another language to do that and if anything forces that all the time can be harmful.
Anonymous No.718485224
>>718484920
ใŠๅ‰ใฏ้€†ใซใ‚ญใƒ ใƒ่‡ญใˆใชใ€ใŠใ„
Anonymous No.718485473
>>718453323 (OP)
I'm kind of loving the Nihongo-Learning channel. You get virtual tourism that I don't mind rewatching and it's nice beginner listening material where they mostly speak naturally and aren't doing the obvious ASMR voice like some others.
Anonymous No.718485628 >>718485765
>>718484784
>It's ok for learning and memorizing the initial hirogana and katakana
That feels not worth making a whole app account for when you can just write them out like once a day while diving straight into vocab and pick them up easily since you see them in context.
Anonymous No.718485765
>>718485628
You are correct.
Anonymous No.718486191
>>718484606
As a general rule of thumb, if an app or website asks for payment and shows adverts, then you're most likely using something that's being held back. Use a different option. Even learning from pirated textbooks is preferable to an app that's primary motivation is money.
Anonymous No.718487656 >>718489275
Wake up /v/
Anonymous No.718488836 >>718489008
Anonymous No.718489008
>>718488836
That's some shitass handwriting.
Anonymous No.718489080 >>718489651 >>718489897 >>718490156 >>718493251
>>718453323 (OP)
6 months in and I finished the kanji damage deck and am 1200 cards into the 2k/6k deck. Its gotten a lot easier but it still feels like it will be impossible to ever parse what someone is saying in real time since they all talk so fast. Even with my limited knowledge though its crazy looking at untranslated dialogue next to translated and seeing that the translation is completely different than what the Japanese words say (or at least what I've been told it says). I wonder how much I've been lied to by trannylators over my life.

Like the other day I saw a picture of a Japanese storage locker and next to the handle you pull down to lock it, the english said "Lock" but the Japanese said "Sageru" which is supposed to mean "lower/bring down". Why didn't they just write "pull down"? It makes more sense even in English since a person might know that pulling it down is locking it.
Anonymous No.718489275
>>718487656
I don't understand the appeal of loli art where 30% of the picture is taken up by an adult dick.
Anonymous No.718489651
>>718489080
Yeah you gotta put a lot of time into listening as well. It's not as bad as it seems to follow since a lot of it is just rapid-fire conjugation, but it does take some getting used to. Just lower the playback speed of videos to start if it's too much and gradually bring it up.

And yeah translators have always sucked.
Anonymous No.718489897 >>718490156 >>718490496 >>718491286
>>718489080
The point of things out in the real world isn't to be a direct translation, it's to be practical.
Putting it as "Lock" makes it so there's 0 ambiguity that is supposed to be the lock. A person can figure out how to pull it down on their own after that
Anonymous No.718490156 >>718490496
>>718489080
>>718489897
To add to this, the last thing you want is some gaijin bumbling around a subway station and asking the staff for help because he doesnt see where the lock is. It's more important to directly point out "this is a lock" then the motion which they can just figure out on their own.
Anonymous No.718490496
>>718489897
>>718490156
Yeah but why don't they put lock for the Japanese people then for the same reason? It can't be because they're more used to storage lockers because then they wouldn't need any instructions at all. The only thing I can think of is that maybe Japanese people already recognize the word lock, so for them its like they're getting extra instruction whereas for English to save space, they just decided leaving "Lock" was enough.
Anonymous No.718490627 >>718490835
Are you reading books? I'm currently reading the girl who leapt through time and I find it quite easy, feels good. I finished Convenience store woman just before and it was a slog sometimes.
Anonymous No.718490835
>>718490627
I've been getting these mystery short story anthologies from my local Kinokuniya. They're fun, but I haven't read as much as I'd like to.
Anonymous No.718491286 >>718491469
>>718489897
I don't get this. If you followed the instructions you'd see it lock. And know it was a lock. I don't see how "Lock" is less confusing than "Pull(this thing) down"
Anonymous No.718491329
who let the dekinais out of their containment thread again?
Anonymous No.718491424 >>718491540 >>718492682
ใŠๅ‰ใ‚‰ใฏใฉใ“ใง็ฐกๅ˜ใช่ชญใฟ็‰ฉใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹ใฎ?ๅƒ•ใฏใ‚‚ใ†tadokuใจTONGARIใฎๆœฌใฎๅ…จ้ƒจใ‚’่ชญใ‚“ใ ใฎใงใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใฎใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใฃใใฆใ€‚ใ€‚ใ€‚ใŠๅ‹งใ‚ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใชใ‚‰ใ€่จ€ใฃใฆใญ
Anonymous No.718491469
>>718491286
(2/1)
Though it's a Japanese locker presumably for Japanese people. So I don't think that's a translation issue.
Anonymous No.718491540
>>718491424
>ๅƒ•
Anonymous No.718491690
My friends wanna do a Japan trip and I wanna read manga so I have to really lock in on studying. If I want to practice with anki while out of the house, anyone have a good deck for that? Also does anyone have that guide on using a texthook on games to practice? I know people use VNs normally but I thought i saw something online about using a texthook on an emulator. Is that possible? I would prefer to play a turn based RPG over a VN.
Anonymous No.718492242 >>718492368 >>718492447 >>718492449
>>718464659
>>718466982
Nta but are these good decks for kana? I got a pdf of Japanese the manga way. Im heading out to work in a bit but I'm gonna try and read some of the first chapter on my break. I'll also check out cure dolly. I believe I already have her playlist saved.
Anonymous No.718492368 >>718492678 >>718494689
>>718492242
You are supposed to learn kana in 2 hours... nobody needs decks for these.
Anonymous No.718492447 >>718494689
>>718492242
Would bother with decks for kana, you're going to get plenty of that looking up kanji.
Anonymous No.718492449 >>718494689
>>718492242
>decks for kana
What are you, retarded? Just write them all out, 50 fucking times each, bitch.
Anonymous No.718492526 >>718497036
>>718453323 (OP)
Im trying, but shit dont stick. At this point i might as well for a decent AR headset set-up.
Anonymous No.718492678 >>718494689
>>718492368
>learn
You mean familiarize. You learn when reading because kana is really common.
Anonymous No.718492682 >>718493954
>>718491424
What are your favorites on Tadoku? I only read the real stories, not the things created just for learners. Otherwise there used to be a wealth of good reading material on itazuraneko but it disappeared apparently :(
Anonymous No.718493102 >>718493364
Half of the shit I watch on jewtube is Japanese and I also watch like 20 anime per season. I don't really play games in Japanese anymore since they are all available in English these days
Anonymous No.718493251 >>718495846
>>718489080
>kanji damage
kek
Anonymous No.718493364 >>718494168
>>718493102
>since they are all available in English these days
Anonymous No.718493954
>>718492682
ๅฅฝใใชtadokuๆœฌใฏใ‚ใฎsherlock holmes ใฎๆœฌใงใ™ใ‹ใญใ€‚ไป–ใฎใ‚„ใคใ‚‰ใฏๅ…จ้ƒจใคใพใ‚‰ใชใใฆใ€ใŸใ ็ทด็ฟ’็‰ฉใชใฎใ‚ˆ

>there used to be a wealth of good reading material on itazuraneko but it disappeared apparently
ใ‚ใ‚ๅƒ•ใ‚‚ใใ‚Œใ‚’่žใ„ใŸใ€‚
Anonymous No.718494168
>>718493364
I read English way faster so it's better for menus
Anonymous No.718494689 >>718494863 >>718494959 >>718495141 >>718495408 >>718495789 >>718495889
>>718492368
>>718492447
>>718492449
>>718492678
I don't understand, so anki is pointless or its worth doing? Wtf
Anonymous No.718494863
>>718494689
What do you think?
Anonymous No.718494959 >>718497340
>>718494689
Anki is good for learning words and phrases
Anonymous No.718495141 >>718497340
>>718494689
Anki is worth doing but for kana any japanese you read or listen too will have kana. So you'll get all the practice you'll ever need. I get why someone would want to get really familiar with kana before going in raw just for convenience, but it's not necessary. This also applies outside of kana too but to a lesser degree.
Anonymous No.718495408 >>718497340
>>718494689
Anki is fantastic.
It's just creating decks for kana is a little overkill. Every kanji card will have many kana on it.
But do it if you want, it won't like make you worse or anything.
Anonymous No.718495789 >>718497340
>>718494689
Anki is for actual fucking words and sentences, with kanji and all
Anonymous No.718495846
>>718493251
Worked fine for me. I like the minimalist nature and the rating system. By the time I finished I also already knew hundreds of words in the 2k deck. The only bad thing was he renames some of them to try and be funny but nothing a quick edit can't solve. If I had to do it again though I would have skipped memorizing the onyomi although it does come in handy sometimes.
Anonymous No.718495889 >>718497340
>>718494689
Anki is great for keeping track of 20k words. It's worthless for keeping track of 80 characters you will see every single day for the rest of your life.
Anonymous No.718496008
>>718453323 (OP)
>repost
go back to /djt/ faggot, this is not a daily general
Anonymous No.718497036
>>718492526
Don't just throw it away some days are tougher than others but if you have the interest to begin with it's because it can enrich your life in some way. I'm basically retarded and after 8 months I can read a large amount of sentences in manga, online, even pure kanji phrases. All I did was not give up even on the worst days where completing the anki stack took hours. Take breaks, do your anki on your phone throughout the day.

I recommend cure dollys youtube lesson course to help learn grammar and RTK to help discern kanji. Cure dolly collates learning material to help show things like the (zero subject) or how conjugations are actually helper verbs being attached and why they work and that they work consistently. It's easier to modify Japanese words and there's far less to remember than to conjugate words in a romance language.
Anonymous No.718497340 >>718498415 >>718498548 >>718498724 >>718498853 >>718529181
>>718495889
>>718495789
>>718495408
>>718495141
>>718494959
Can any of you link the decks you used? There are so many and I dont know which are really relevant. My only goals are reading manga and playing games.
Anonymous No.718497507 >>718497685 >>718508251
>>718454395
You heard me.
Anonymous No.718497685
>>718497507
>AM
>M
>those shoes
his mom needs to stop dressing him up like a girl
Anonymous No.718498415
>>718497340
It really doesn't matter what deck you start out with. I did core2k, there are probably a million meme decks out there now that use the most popular 2000 words from anime or manga or whatever instead of newspaper lists, it's just a starting point. The key is switching to a mining deck as soon as you can read, and then you don't need any other decks, because you're making your own deck based on words you're already familiar with from reading. You can easily set up something like yomitan so you only have to type a word into a web browser and mouse over it to add it to your mining deck.
Anonymous No.718498548
>>718497340
Choose any deck and do 500โ€“1000 cards. The deck doesnโ€™t matter since all pre-made ones are terrible, and you should create a mining deck yourself as soon as possible.
Anonymous No.718498724 >>718501052
>>718497340
https://djtguide.neocities.org + /anki or + /kana
Anonymous No.718498814
>>718482949
https://www.youtube.com/@cisne1105/
KINO
Anonymous No.718498853
>>718497340
In my experience you want to make your own deck and add words as you learn them from native Japanese contexts. A lot of words are hard to understand just by the definition, and if you don't really know the word you'll forget it all the time and your reviews will be miserable. Use the Yomichan browser extension to add them automatically.
Anonymous No.718500229
>>718453571

Like Hindi?
Anonymous No.718500764 >>718501283
>>718464572
click brute force mode and learn kana in an afternoon
find some youtube video to know what they are supposed to sound like
https://vedxyz.github.io/kana/

https://github.com/donkuri/Kaishi heres a deck for vocab but you need to learn the kana first

https://yoku.bi/
use this for basic grammar

read, listen, look up every unknown word or grammar for 2000 hours
the "easier" content you pick and the more words you know the less look ups you have to do over time
Anonymous No.718501052
>>718498724
Yeah this is the one I used. It's fine.
Anonymous No.718501283 >>718503487 >>718522208
>>718500764
also get this for browser
https://yomitan.wiki/
and setup
https://github.com/bpwhelan/GameSentenceMiner with https://renji-xd.github.io/texthooker-ui/
to play any japanese game you want and look stuff up fast
Anonymous No.718503487 >>718506213 >>718508101
>>718501283
Yomitan is great for browsing but a local dictionary app like goldendict outside of that.
Anonymous No.718506213 >>718507117
>>718503487
if you use yomitan you know you can open a tab to manually search words right?
the magnifying glass when you click it in the toolbar
I don't see the need for goldendict but I wouldn't knock it entirely either though
Anonymous No.718507117
>>718506213
>if you use yomitan you know you can open a tab to manually search words right
But you if you have goldendict or a local dictionary application you don't have to do that. Unless you're doing a WWW search for the word.
Anonymous No.718507601
>>718453323 (OP)
cuz kanji are hard
Anonymous No.718507706
>>718453323 (OP)
Unless Japan returns to its roots and makes things for themselves again instead of the global audience, theres really not much point in current year.
I'll still be learning because the ones I want to play are like 30+ years old and its a fun hobby to learn things, but I don't hold it against someone for not wanting to. They didn't grow up in the age where it held a mysterious frontier and was inaccessible except for one or two devoted translators. Now everything is digitally connected and homogenous.
Anonymous No.718508101 >>718508519 >>718509132
>>718482406
>ๅ…ฑใ‚‰
the fuck is this shit
>>718503487
dicttango too, but it uses mdict (mdx) dictionaries. you can also use jidoujisho with yomichan/yomitan dictionaries
still I don't know why anyone would need OCR and other shit. literally just write the words on the ime pad (inb4 I don't know how to write)
Anonymous No.718508251
>>718497507
kid had more action with girls than i've ever had in 32 years.
Anonymous No.718508519 >>718517472
>>718508101
>ๅ…ฑใ‚‰
Think it's used as a second person pronoun here, with the ใ‚‰ pluralizing it.
Anonymous No.718509073
What if Japan abandoned kanji like the koreans did.
Anonymous No.718509132 >>718509523 >>718517472
>>718508101
>still I don't know why anyone would need OCR and other shit.
speed
gamaesentenceminer is super fast and you can hover dictionary the words without tabbing out now
Anonymous No.718509523 >>718510768
>>718509132
>speed
All you're doing when you waste time with OCR is ensuring the word doesn't sink in.
Anonymous No.718509985
I have terrible executive dysfunction issues and I basically don't have the mental stamina or motivation to do anything academic anymore. The moment my head hits the pillow, I'll wake up the next day with no interest in what I did yesterday and start looking for something new to produce dopamine.
Acedemics are almost impossible for me.
Anonymous No.718510238
Anonymous No.718510387
>>718453323 (OP)
I would, but my other hobbies (writing and music) take higher priority, and leaving my sweatshop-tier job takes even higher priority than that because unless I do that, I won't have time for any hobby at all.
Anonymous No.718510768
>>718509523
your saving time with ocr thoughbeit so you can read more words
Anonymous No.718511813
>>718463998
I like this artist.
Anonymous No.718512194
What are good mangas, light novels, etc. for the homosexual man.
Anonymous No.718512817
>>718467709
I'm a spic so yes, I do. Even if I didn't, I completely suck at making conversation, even in Spanish.
Anonymous No.718512903 >>718513095 >>718513121
Do japanese women like licking men's nipples? The one girl I slept with in japan did it, and I've seen it in a lot of doujins too. Is that a thing?
Anonymous No.718513095
>>718512903
There is a lot of nipple licking and biting in yaoi as well.
Anonymous No.718513121
>>718512903
The Japanese are pretty low T, so they're into it.
Anonymous No.718513145 >>718513387
>>718470878
brb gonna erase English form my brain
Anonymous No.718513387
>>718513145
>form
See? It's already working!
Anonymous No.718513697 >>718517490
>>718468328
>just go be a JET
requires references
Anonymous No.718514783
>>718481545
Anonymous No.718515116 >>718517116
>>718482406
ใŸใ„ใธใ‚“ใ‚ˆใใงใใชใ‹ใฃใŸww
Anonymous No.718517116
>>718515116
>ใŸใ„ใธใ‚“ใ‚ˆใใงใใชใ‹ใฃใŸww
(ๆ€ ๆƒฐใฏๅคง็ฝชใฎไธ€ใคใชใฎใงใ€)
ๆฌกใฏใƒใƒฃใƒƒใƒ”ใƒผใจใ‹ใงใƒใ‚ฟ็”ปๅƒไฝไฝœใฃใฆใฟใฆใญ

ใปใชใ€ใพใŸใช
Anonymous No.718517472 >>718519067 >>718520078
>>718508519
ๅ…ฑ is not used as a pronoun. it can be a suffix (e.g. ใ‚ขใƒ›ๅ…ฑ) which suggests scorn. also see ไบŒไบบๅ…ฑ(ใตใŸใ‚Šใจใ‚‚, the both of you), ็งๅ…ฑ(ใ‚ใŸใใ—ใฉใ‚‚, when humbling oneself)
>>718509132
sure, you get your speed, but what do you gain if you don't pay attention to what you're "mining"?
Anonymous No.718517490
>>718513697
Plus, you need to be a native English speaker, which most of nu-/v/ isn't.
Anonymous No.718519067
>>718517472
>but what do you gain if you don't pay attention to what you're "mining"?
this is where you need the self control to try and recall the word before looking it up whether that be by writing it, ocring it, or texthooking it and is not a problem of ocr itself
and you dont have to mine with gamesentenceminer you can just use it for lookups
Anonymous No.718520078
>>718517472
Anonymous No.718520378 >>718524595
>>718453323 (OP)
With some exception, most Japanese only games are weird fan servicy weebshit I would never touch. And those exceptions (e.g. Front Mission 5) usually have fan translations anyway
Anonymous No.718521630 >>718523901
>>718453323 (OP)
i quit after i saw some site say corpse party, a game im familiar with, was ใจใฆใ‚‚ใ‚„ใ•ใ—ใ„ in japanese, but when i tried to play it i didnt understand a single thing in the intro. this was with me already having a base of vocab and grammar and stuff for a decent while. it just made me feel like all that effort was for nothing so i just replayed in english lol
Anonymous No.718522208 >>718527524
>>718501283
Im at work so I cant check but I wanna ask. Does the game sentence or texthook work with games that arent VNs? Can I use this on an emulator?
Anonymous No.718523901
>>718521630
>that VN
The most unforgettable horror porn game I've ever played. No other game had a bunch of elementary schoolers gangbang a teenage girl against a wall. And the teenage girl loved it. No other game I've played had a 17 year old bishonen guy drink a 14 year old girl's piss and chase her down the hall to rape her, only to wind up getting anally raped by a 32 year old fat man. I still remember the scene where a 16-17 girl was hiding under a bed as her same age best friend was having sex with that same 32 year old fat guy on top. She heard every moan, bed shake and sound. In the wrong end she was discovered under the bed by her friend and made to join. A most terrifying scene was when an unwilling girl relives another girl's sex memories. The girl in the memory consented but the reliving girl didn't. It didn't matter that she was mentally screaming, her body in the memory did all the motions and actions as in history. It's like mind control rape except the victim was fully aware. Another scene the same girl and a friend were almost raped in a magic sex ritual, saved by the girl's older sister, and the backlash made the older sister want to rape her younger sister and friend.

The loli in this pic is freakishly lewd and once disguised herself as a teenage girl, fucked a boy until he nearly came, transformed back saying
>You thought you were having sex with a highschooler weren't you? I'm an elementary schooler all along!
And leglocks that boy, forcing him to cum inside her unprotected, when he screams in fear upon learning this. This isn't even getting into the tentacles, the gay sex, the lesbian sex, the incest, the sequel's mother/daughter lesbian scene, etc. The first chapter alone contains lots of lesbian sex scenes with an unavoidable girl masturbating in the bathroom. Truly horror is intrinsically connected with sexuality.
Anonymous No.718524057 >>718524489
>>718453323 (OP)
I'm in my 30s now and its hard to even give enough of a fuck to speak to people. I don't even like anime anymore so I no longer have any reason to learn it.
Anonymous No.718524489 >>718524537
>>718524057
>boohoo i'm 30 and nothing's fun anymore i'm so old guys you don't understand
stfu
Anonymous No.718524537
>>718524489
yeah, I'm a stupid retard baby. Thanks for proving me right.
Anonymous No.718524595 >>718533939
>>718520378
>weird fan servicy weebshit I would never touch
Anonymous No.718525190
>>718453323 (OP)
because it takes several thousand hours of my limited lifespan and i don't actually need it to do the things i want to do
Anonymous No.718526736
>>718481545
sister compass, having fun and faps
Anonymous No.718527524 >>718527631
>>718522208
gamesentence lets you use "OwOcr" so it works on anything
the texthook is a secondary place for gamesentence to dump the sentences too
Anonymous No.718527631
>>718527524
the renji texthook page*
Anonymous No.718529181 >>718529464
>>718497340
What I did
- I used some other free software whose name I don't remember for hiragana and katakana, but there should definitely be Anki decks for both. Start with those if you don't know hiragana / katakana yet. Get a mnemonic table (like pic related) or make your own memorization rules. Or if you prefer, you can just try brute force memorizing them.
- For beginner vocabulary I used Core series decks. Core 2000 is a good starting point.
- For kanji it depends on which method you're using (Kanjidamage, Remembering the Kanji 1, Kanji Koohii, whatever). I did RTK1 years ago, though many people nowadays consider other alternatives better. There should be kanji decks for all the most popular stuff.

After you feel like you have enough grammar knowledge and basic vocab under your belt:
- Start consuming stuff. Make your own personal deck based on the stuff you consume, so you can combine vocabulary grind and improving your reading comprehension at the same time and maybe have some fun with the process. Repeat the process, keep consuming more media and keep up with your reps, and use google or review grammar resources you've been using for any weird stuff. You get faster and faster at reading as you practive, and can eventually drop any learning aides you've been using.
Anonymous No.718529464 >>718530135
>>718529181
studying kanji is for retards and is easily the quickest way to burn yourself out
Anonymous No.718529759
learning languages ruined my life
Anonymous No.718530135
>>718529464
>the quickest way to burn yourself out
Yeah, I'm not sure if in retrospect I'd recommend going through all ๅธธ็”จๆผขๅญ— with Anki unless you have autismal focus and motivation, but I think it's a good idea to at least do *some* kanji grind to get a general gist of how they work and start recognizing the most common radicals. RTK1 and other kanji learning materials tend to have the benefit of ordering kanji by similarity, whereas all other materials tend to just start out by presenting you common but wildly different looking kanji that appear like random squiggles with no rhyme or reason to a beginner.

I'd most definitely focus more on learning kanji together with vocab when it comes to readings and shit, rather than trying to memorize a kanji and all its readings in one go without any context.
Anonymous No.718531989
>>718454395
The average asian man is muscular and sexy. The actors of videos in social media never are average
Anonymous No.718532062
>>718458205
>Futanari bulge
Anonymous No.718533806
bumpitty bump
Anonymous No.718533939 >>718534139 >>718534816
>>718524595
I'm learning Japanese as someone who isn't a digsuting weeb and has no interest in degenerate weebshit trash. This fact alone has been a huge confidence boost for my studying. Feels fucking great.
Anonymous No.718534139
>>718533939
your loss
Anonymous No.718534816
>>718533939
>I'm sure this anime website will care about how much of a non-weeb I am
???