Thread 718456249

Poorfags lose again

Because everyone absolutely loved hairworks...

Anyone with a receding hairline or a bald head is barred from posting in this thread.

>>718456249 (OP)
I have never seen a hairline that recedes at the temples in a straight line like that

>>718456328
Well, now you have.

>>718456249 (OP)
What Norwood is this?

I was starting to bald, but I got Hims, because it was fin/monix in one. They want a picture of you, and a picture of your license. Then they mail it out. My hair's actually coming back, it's been 2.5 months. I feel like I have lost 20% of my energy, but fuck it, hair is worth it.

pc gaming is a scam
with $450 in 2020 you're set up to run every game for the next 5+ years with a ps5
but with a $450 pc even in 2025 you're already behind current year games

>>718456249 (OP)
>50 series loses gameworks just in time for more hair physics slop

>>718456481
RIP Anon's dick

>>718456249 (OP)
How does this help me enjoy a video game?

>>718456328
What does that imply O' knowledgeable one

>>718456249 (OP)
Damn, they've made Hairworks AGAIN?

Is real-time, realistic fluid simulation ever going to be possible? It seems like the next big step

>>718456249 (OP)
what about gameplay features? will this add fun to the games?

>>718456515
>450$ + tip + 400+$ of paid online for 5+ years
>For 3060 equivalent performance, which has an MSRP of 329$ + tip
If you have a motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU and case (components that are either cheap or can last 20 years or even indefinitely if not treated like shit), then PC gaming is cheaper if you just buy a low-end GPU every 5 years and get a new low-end CPU and mobo every 10 years, though of course that's poorfag logic and you can just get higher quality components and keep them longer.

>>718456515
>buy modest PC instead of console
>pirate games instead of buying them (games are now $79.99 USD plus tip)
>take all the money saved from not buying grossly overpriced games and dump it into PC upgrades instead
>now have a high performance PC that runs video games better than a console

>>718456761
only if (((they))) decide to push the "dedicated physx gpu" meme again

>>718456515
pc has far better performance and I know this will blow your mind:
you can use the computer to compute!

>>718456481
based, get a HT and unjust yourself completely

>>718456515
I have no interest in modern games, hence no incentive to upgrade

Can't wait for Digital Foundry to take a look at this!!!

>>718456249 (OP)
Good thing I don't give a fuck about hair when playing video games.

>>718456249 (OP)
Cool
How does photorealistic hair help with gameplay or performance?

>>718456515
>you're set up to run every game for the next 5+ years
But all of them are shit.

>>718456249 (OP)
Finally gamers suffering from baldness will be able to feel whole once more!

>>718456249 (OP)
Shouldn't RTX Hair off just be bald? And they should have used an image of Aloy's facial hair.

I just bought a 5070ti 3 months ago after waiting 8 years to upgrade and now apparently Super versions with 24gb of vram will be released soon at the same exact MSRP.

>>718456849
Yeah, not being dedicated to gaming is why pc is so fucking terrible as a gaming platform. Even when you just want to game you pay for compute performance you don't use.

>>718457676
You were a retard for buying a 50 series gpu in the first place. You spent all that money and did no research on how shit it was.

>>718456249 (OP)
>just makes the hair darker
truly groundbreaking

>>718457676
I'm still using my 3080 and will continue using it until at least the 70 series comes along

>>718456249 (OP)
Isn't it a rebranded hairworks? Looks like splines to me

>>718456653
you don't lose immersion when you focus on their bald spot

>>718456249 (OP)
>yeah bro just enable your rtx hair and your rtx lighting and your rtx tiles and your rtx models and your rtx physics and your rtx fluids to make the game look good!
Old games didn't need all this software cope to make games look good. Old games didn't have extreme hair dithering, so why does every single UE5 game have hair dithering?

>>718457676
Nvidia will switch between turbojew (basically everything in their lineup) and overcorrection (cards like the GTX 1080).
Impulse buying their bad cards is always a bad deal, especially now that they're coasting on the AI/Datacenter bubble.
Their recent 30, 40 and 50 series especially have tuned themselves to consoomer memes by arbitrarily restricting VRAM down to something that has been memed as unusable just to force people up into specific price categories.

>>718456249 (OP)
>Still no way to fix dithered hair in UE4 and UE5 games
I hate this faggotry.

>>718456249 (OP)
Nice. I've always hated that weird, greasy, lifeless and matte video game hair.

Am I only one to thought the thumbnail was a black bbc dick?

>>718459278
my porn rotten brain lead me to believe that as well on first sight. we need help.

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/render-path-traced-hair-in-real-time-with-nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-series-gpus/

POORFAGS BTFO

>>718459343
>nvidia hairworks 2025 edition
L O L

>>718456249 (OP)
>looks practically the same
>is probably a massive FPS drop
I just want a good game, not photorealism.

>>718456249 (OP)
ive never played a game and was like, "Man, i wish the hair looked better"

you faggots need watch movies if this is what you're interested in

>>718459472
There are more good games from 10 to 40 years ago than you're ever able to play.

>>718459472
You want janky low fps movement and so much blur you can't tell what anything is anyways? We got you covered.

>>718458461
>brush him

>>718456249 (OP)
>snake oil tech has looped back around to hairworks a decade after the fact

>>718456249 (OP)
they never run out of ways to scam you incels, lmao

>>718456328
because you've never seen me

>>718460051
>>718460003
>>718459794
>>718459547
>>718459472
poor lmao

>>718456249 (OP)
>another feature to cut your FPS in half
can't wait! thank you njudea!

>>718459547
Hair isn't the MOST important thing in a video game but modern dithered slop hair is extremely distracting.

>>718456387
I think it's beginning of 3

>>718460350
Hair rendering doesn't matter bro

>>718456249 (OP)
I do not care
unless devs use it for pubes

>>718457676
Welcome to how I felt when I bought the 4070ti and the Super later came out for that.
Fucking Nvidia

>>718456515
>you're set up to run every game for the next 5+ years with a ps5
>the next 5+ years
>5+ years
Oh no, its retarded.
The average console generation lifespan is 7 years. The PS5 has already been around for 5 years. You've got two more years before they release the PS6.

>>718456249 (OP)
5090 only technology
poorfags need not apply

Also rtx exclusive

>>718456515
Retards buy gaming PCs
Smart people buy PCs that play games.

>>718456515
Unfortunately as a consumer who prefers to not play upscaled checkerboarded 18fps, I am not Sony's target audience.

>>718458593
Same boat. If a game cant run on a 3080 it's just badly optimized, that simple. Games that look like they came out before the 3080 shouldn't need a 5080+dlss (or 5070+fake fps DLSS) to run above 60fps.

remember Nvidia Hairworks™?

>>718456972
this. all the stuff worth playing is old, or indie.

>>718460350
this is an issue with TAA, not hair

>>718456249 (OP)
Bro what is that hairline
Bro look at the top of his head
What the heeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

I thought grafixfags were at the limit of what small thing they can jerk off over, but zooming in to hair is a new low
Grafix stopped evolving significantly in 2008

>>718456481
Height, hair, chin, jaw, hunter eyes. When men became such insecure pussies?

>>718456249 (OP)
>shit I never asked for now for only $1999 + tip

>>718461535
If hair was rendered properly it would not be affected by TAA. AMD solved hair rendering back in 2013 with the Tomb Raider game (TressFX) and Nvidia quickly followed suit with Hairworks. For some reason this is now lost technology and we have slop hair in most games that aren't heavily stylised to look like cartoons.

>>718456515
You can make money with PC if you have skills for creative/programming softwares though, instead of being a retarded consoomer and buying the consoomer box

Did they fix the drivers yet?

>>718456249 (OP)
I dont care until someone will use this tech to make coomer game with pubes on hot chicks.

Kratos is bald because there wasn't enough power to render his hair?
In the next games will he have a mane?

>Nvidia just remembered how they made Nvidia Hairworks which was used in..........The Witcher 3, i guess?
i think nvidia forgot they even made that gimmick

>>718456249 (OP)
I won't be able to use it regardless because it'd require a new driver, and Nvidia apparently never fixed the constant driver crashes. Still stuck on 566.36 because I actually want to be able to use my GPU.

Thanks, Nvidia.

>>718461763
Kratos is bald because early 00 edgy aesthetics. He's like a nu-metal bandmember who got isekai'd into ancient Greece.

who asked for that?

>>718456515
Most people own some sort of PC anyway, generally a 300$ entry level laptop they just use to check their mail, shitpost on 4chan, or do their taxes and they replace it as often as a console because they spilled coffee on it, it fell off the table or some other reason.

I see PC gaming as just taking the 500$ I'd need for an Xbox, the 400 for the facebook machine, and buying one thing that does both.

>>718461912
Me.

>>718461774
Their latest generation of grafix cards can't do PhysX so yes they definitely forgot about their old gimmicks

>>718460350
>>718461535
>>718461623
this has nothing to do with taa. one of the main reasons taa even exists is to combat the actual reason hair looks like this; deferred rendering cannot do transparency. transparency has always been a problem with the depth buffer. ever see hair in old games looking nice and crisp, but then you go against a window and suddenly the hair doesn't get affected by the window color at all, and looks like it's actually floating over the window? that's because they simply skipped sorting and just displayed the hair and called it a day. today, hair can blend much better, which is good. only, transparency requires textured to be masked instead of translucent, and masking using 1bit opacity maps, which is terrible. dithering and taa is used to hide this as much as possible, without dithering and taa, it looks 10 times worse. deferred rending has too many positives to be dropped, so enjoy bad hair for a long time. deferred rendering has existed since 1988.

>>718456820
>If you have a motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU and case
So if you already have half the PC or everything besides the graphics card then it's cheaper? What sort of retard logic is that? A console would be even cheaper still if all you have to buy is a GPU unit from ebay and install it into your bricked model.
>components that are either cheap or can last 20 years or even indefinitely if not treated like shit
Are you smoking crack? Try gaming on 4gb ram and a Pentium processor from 2004.
>PC gaming is cheaper if you just buy a low-end GPU every 5 years and get a new low-end CPU and mobo every 10 years
Yeah no fucking shit. If you bought even a top end CPU 8 years ago you wouldn't even have a Ryzen. I'd be surprised if you could even run new games, yet alone have anything resembling PS5/XBS performance. And you're talking about a low-end model.

>>718462234
But with TressFX and Hairworks you got noodle hair that at least looked consistent and didn't have a bunch of holes in it. Can't we just go back to that?

waiting for the 6070ti with 14gb to upgrade from my 3070ti

>>718459236
I dont get why they keep doing this, if the model had just shitty low poly hair I wouldnt even pqy attention, the fuzzy flickering ue5 hair unironically ruins my gaming experience

>>718462329
>Can't we just go back to that?
tressfx had less hair cards on screen than your average character has today, by a lot. the only thing that's going to beat the bad hair of today will be stronger gpus that just dump a million polygons of hair onto every character. technically doable today, provided you have one character on screen ever.

>>718456296
Lmao
Fucking baldlets, when will they learn

>>718456249 (OP)
Woah he's literally me

>>718462234
no faggot, the dithering pattern in lots of textures is done because of TAA, it isnt hair exclusive, the they rely on the AA to blend it together

>>718461250
It's not even two years.
AMD leaked it accidentally a while back since PS6 is using UDNA.

>>718456249 (OP)
baldfags should've bought an rtx gfx card to keep your falling hair lmao

>>718456249 (OP)
Welcome back Rise of the Tomb Raider.
Anyone even old enough to remember how much of a deal they made out of her hair?

>>718462361
>We need our transparency but our engine is shit
Regress is real and it's not only unreal engine.
But it doesn't matter because we are forced to use upscaling anyway if we want to play AAA garbage.

WHO THE FUCK CARES? OH LOOK THE HAIR LOOKS REALISTIC THIS SURELY MAKE THE GAMEPLAY BETTER

>>718462502
dithering is for transparency you fucking chink. shut the fuck up, you don't know anything. you don't dithering a fucking texture for fun.

>>718456249 (OP)
Ha I knew my 50 series purchase was justified...How do you feel now??? Pretty stupid huh

Does it work with body hair? Asking for a friend.

>>718456328
That's what I've always had

>>718461914
You'd be wrong. The extra 500 doesn't get you the same quality because laptops are even worse for vram than desktops.

>>718461165
I got the super 4070 ti and its great :D

>>718460807
Only based poster in this thread.

>>718456249 (OP)
wowie I can't wait to not be able to run anything without stuttering because the devs put in 8k solid colour textures and Nvidia give you 2GB of RAM.

>>718461536
you will have the same one in your 30s/40s

>>718456249 (OP)
Ah man, I sure remember the last time I got as close as possible to a model and scrutinized how the hair looks.
Oh wait, no I don't.

Gameplay?

>>718456249 (OP)
>NVidia finds about about anisotropic specular reflections
lol

>>718456249 (OP)
nigger what is this flaccid cock faggotry you are promoting??

>>718467083
>tfw your so addicted to porn you see cocks everywhere

>>718467103
and don't forget the horse sized balls, holy fucking shit. i think that's the actual phenomenon in that rtx hair image

>>718456249 (OP)
I would never notice a difference in motion

>>718456515
I used to believe this, but now I know with technologies such as frame gen, FSR, and simply turning down settings, a high-end PC can last for up to a decade, but at least the same as a console gen.

>>718456279
They did. It was just AMDCucks mad their cards couldn't tessellate and now they're playing catchup again with RT lmao

>>718467275
You are not getting a high end pc for $450.

>>718456249 (OP)
This is fucked bros how can I play games without extremely realistic hair physics?
I'm sick to my stomach and literally shaking

>>718456515
>plays heavily upscaled games at 15-20fps
>sees no problem with this because consolefag

>>718468164
>plays heavily upscaled games at 15-20fps
But enough about Nvidia users.

>>718456249 (OP)
why do devs still piss away money on meme realism when the most profitable games always look like shit?

>>718468113
The exclusive version will cost 3 times as much to run for worse hair than we have now, but they'll also bribe devs into making the universal fallback solution look absolutely hideous. Forget realistic you'll be envious of ps1 games.

>>718456249 (OP)
I'm bald, retard. I don't care about hair.

more than half a decade later and rtx is STILL a scam idiots turn on because they are proud to spend money like retards...
maybe another 5 years and there will be visible changes?

>>718456249 (OP)
arr rook rike

>>718468727
We already have visible changes, just compare newer games to those released 10 years ago like Arkham Knight.

When will games get so advanced I can choose between clay, wax, pomade, or hair gel for my MC's hair texture and shininess?

>>718456249 (OP)
That would be -100fps + tips.

>>718456515
Enjoy having more expensive games
Enjoy having worse sales
Enjoy not being able to pirate
Enjoy only having backwards compat for the games they let you
Enjoy having to pay monthly just to use your own Internet to play online

Yeah man, console is so much cheaper.

>>718460807
this

>>718467997
TressFX was superior to Hairworks though?

>>718456515
Idk, I have 7800x3d/7900xtx/32gb and it just werks

>>718456249 (OP)
>GRAFIXFAGS
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Use case for slightly darker hair that otherwise looks the same?

>>718456481
>I feel like I have lost 20% of my energy
Not sure I like that trade-off. Or any trade-off aside from losing body hair. Do you work out anon?

>>718456481
also forgot to ask, do you use the pill or the spray?

>>718456249 (OP)
you're playing some western muh graphic slop so you lost by default though.

>grills shaves peepee
why do i need rtx hair again?

>>718458124
Agreed

>t. retarded 5070 owner

>>718456249 (OP)
Yes, hello. This is Nvidia. You got the info wrong, it's 60 series exclusive.

>>718461250
>PS6 drops soon
>Won't have any games
>Still sells well
How does sony do it bros?

>>718471024
BUT
for our loyal customers who have a 50 series, you can unlock the rtx hair dlc with a 20$ nvidia super shill monthly subscription

>wow this rtx hair looks pretty good
>wonder how many frames I gain if I turn it off
>yeah not turning that back on for another 15 years

anyone that cares about this should be hanged

>>718456515
I don't play modern AAA titles and I've never owned a console, but I'm curious - couldn't you just rip out the insides of a ps5 and hook it up to your PC if it's so much cheaper?

>>718470926
retard u made a good purchase. 5070 is king in providing best visual quality. AMD owner screenshots have a very distinct oversharpened fsr look that destroys their image which i cant see on dlss-applied image

>>718456515
A matter of longevity and uses. I can do whatever I want with it, you don't even get a browser. I can play any game ever released for PC, you can't use your PS3 discs on your PS5. Funny, when we can just emulate that console. But the point was rendered moot with the release of the RX 9060 XT.

>>718456249 (OP)
how about they make good game instead?

>>718468093
His point is that PCs are going to last longer than consoles because of DLSS and such. We might see PCs for $500 if they rely heavily on this.

>>718471552
Yea but my screens randomly go black sometimes. It's annoying as fuck. Njudea really doesn't give a fuck anymore.

>>718472271
that got fixed ages ago

>>718474128
On what driver version? I'm on 580.88 right now and my second monitor randomly went black when using firefox like a week ago.

>>718474378
581 released within the last hour

>>718456249 (OP)
I'll stick with my RoPs and Phsyx 32 bit instead then.

>>718474520
That's not ages ago.

>>718472239
His point is wrong.

>>718456249 (OP)
I've never needed more than a rough-hewn block with some drawing on it, from my point of view it's all very inconsequential.

I'll use it once the retarded devs figure out how to make shit not run like ass on a 4080 without forcing me to use the dlssfsrfrfr slop

>>718456481
>what social media does to a mf
also hair takes longer to grow than 2.5m, what you're seeing is psychological bias, doesn't actually exist.

>>718456296
it's yet another cosmetic pharma advertisement thread. wish the mods would just ban this shit already.

>>718475781
this. looks perfectly fine.

>>718470904
Can you post the webm? I forgot to save it

>>718458593
>>718461485
Basedo
You literally don't need more
If the game runs bad, it's unoptimized UESlop in 100% of cases. Gayfix haven progressed at all in the last decade
Lolled at the new mafia being 84 FPS on a 4090. In 1080p keeeek

>>718456249 (OP)
>Won't render pubes
Thanks payment processors
Now I can watch "realistic" blading oldfags lljust like irl! In 43 whole fps
What elation.

>>718456249 (OP)
5080 here. How much of a performance hit should I expect from this?

>>718477320
>>718458593
30 series came out around the same time as current gen consoles, so there's no reason anything released on those consoles shouldn't run just fine on a 30 series card. Devs just aren't optimizing shit for PC.

>>718456249 (OP)
This is only bad news if new games force it on.

>>718456249 (OP)
>Caring about graphics in 2025

>>718456249 (OP)
Remember when AMD made shit like this and made it an open standard?
Fuck Nvidia and their proprietary bullshit.

>>718456249 (OP)
wouldn't they make more money if they optimize their games to work on toasters = more people buying the game?

>>718468319
They don't need to bribe them.
Devs run the game on their GTX 5090 + Intel Housefire 9000 1300W system at max graphics and that's what they optimize for. Why would they play on high, medium, or even low or lowest? That's beneath them.
So they couldn't care less how it looks.

The invention of the GTX Titan and its many successors has been a disaster for game dev.

>>718457676
nvidia has always been a jewy company with anti-competitive anti-consumer practices. there's a long history of this. and despite all this, you still bought nvidia. you deserve it.
anyone with sense is waiting for udna next year.

>>718457280
>How does better technology help with making my games better?

>>718456515
It's not, the best PC games were released 20 years ago (before Steam was popular) and still have a player base.
The beauty of PC gaming is litterally any computer can run the good games.

>>718483342
They literally do need to bribe them otherwise no one would implement their shit.

>>718456249 (OP)
More like Bald news am i rite xddd

>>718456249 (OP)
All i want is a better ass and tits physic in-game.

>>718470576
get out of here ebussy, go back to making gnome great again

>>718456249 (OP)
no one's going to notice this while playing the game. hairworks was more noticeable than this shit.

If you genuinely care about this you're a giga faggot

poorfags ITT

>>718475781
based Archolos enjoyer

another shit effect that will only affect fps and doesn't improve gameplay

>>718490483
it's actually crazy how little videogames have progressed in terms of gameplay features. Veilguard has great looking hair, so what? It doesn't make the game any better.

>>718491048
>oh look i can see the pores if i zoom enough!!
>heres smoke so you can't see shit
not every game needs to be a ground breaking invention but fuck

>>718456296
>thinly
heh

>>718456515
im so tired of explaining this shit to consoletards
>you can get a chink MOBO+CPU+16GB DDR4 for $70
>scour your local 2nd-hand marketplace for GPUs depending on your budget
>PSUs are generally cheap and you should get a new one
>games are cheap + you can pirate, use keyshops like gg.deals or allkeyshop to buy if you want legit copies
>you're not paying to use internet twice
you gotta be a retard to be a console gamer

>>718461328
that's some slow ass photons

>>718456249 (OP)
meanwhile pic rel still mogs

i went bald at 20 but that's the least of my problems now despite being made fun of for it over the years and having jokes being made about my big head

>>718456249 (OP)
>34
>corners are just starting to peak
>hair is long and luscious, women love touching it
honestly the edges peaking is sorta kino

>>718460807
I think Baldurs Gate 3 has actual 3d pubes, probably cards / texture over polygons but it has depth

>>718456249 (OP)
I'll take, "Things I'll never notice ingame" for $600.

>>718456249 (OP)
Gameplay?

>>718456249 (OP)
>left: 300 fps
>right: 18fps

>>718498539
>>left: 300 fps
>>right: 18fps
Doesn't matter, with Frame Generation, that will all come into order.

>>718486370
But games are a shirtier than ever.
We didnt need day 1 patches before.

>>718456249 (OP)
Balding in 4k 28fps

Not finna cap, I lowkey thought this was a BBC shitpost at first glance.

I have an RTX3090, but I only play games that would run on a GTX1060.
Fuck these modern pieces of shit trying rendering realistic lighting. It's so ridiculous that 20 years ago it would have been considered a parody, like a Monty Python sketch or something:
"Oh, our video game isn't very good, what can we do, wise dev advisor?"
"Hmmm... how about simulating the interaction of electromagnetic waves with the characters' hair?"

>>718500041
porn addiction speaks

>>718500817
i want to bully you for being a weeaboo faggot but you probably play more actual games than most of /v/ combined

>>718495753
wigs and toupees are so good and inexpensive now you literally have no excuse

>>718475256
He's 12, for him 10 minutes ago might as well have been a week ago.