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Anonymous No.718460256 >>718461804 >>718468623 >>718469538 >>718479991
Is it worth playing the Remaster or is the PS3 version superior? Don't want to get duped again after buying Symphonia demastered.
Anonymous No.718460824 >>718468694 >>718469135
I haven't played it yet, I got burned hard with the Symphonia "modern" version too. I can't believe it's still locked to 30 and nobody managed to mod it to unlock the framerate.
Anonymous No.718460882 >>718460917 >>718469618
what did symphonia do to shit the bed
?
Anonymous No.718460917 >>718461029 >>718461696
>>718460882
Locked at 30fps and runs like shit regardless of hardware. You're better off just emulating the Gamecube version.
Anonymous No.718461029 >>718461065 >>718480695
>>718460917
gamecube version doesn't have dual audio, and the english dub only bothered to dub like 10% of the dialogue so it's a total waste of time. The Steam version is a big improvement on the gamecube release for that reason alone, unless you play the Japanese release of the gamecube game.
Anonymous No.718461065
>>718461029
There's an undub patch for Gamecube. That's what I was referring to.
Anonymous No.718461696 >>718461757
>>718460917
>You're better off just emulating the Gamecube version.
And missing a bunch of extra content?
I think not, specially when Lossless Scaling exists.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tales+of+symphonia+Lossless+Scaling
Anonymous No.718461757 >>718461884 >>718463469
>>718461696
>Lossless Scaling
Fake frames.
Anonymous No.718461804 >>718479663 >>718479709
>>718460256 (OP)
>Is it worth playing the Remaster or is the PS3 version superior?
The remaster is based on the PS3 version.
Unlike the PS3 version it runs at 60 FPS (or up to 120 if you're on PC.)
And well, the resolution is obviously higher too.

>Don't want to get duped again after buying Symphonia demastered.
Apples and oranges.
Literally none of the Tales remasters have been mishandled like Symphonia's.
Some people at Bamco must hate it or something because it's not normal that the game has been rereleased like 4 or 5 times since the GC original and it's always been fumbled in one way or another.
Anonymous No.718461884 >>718461956
>>718461757
Correct.
And those fake frames help eliminate the problem at hand completely. The game no longer feels sluggish, and you get to keep all the extra contentt, and with tosfix you can restore all the missing effects, font and so on too.
Anonymous No.718461956 >>718462085 >>718462157
>>718461884
This is like bragging about a hamburger being made with sawdust. Sure it makes it go further and look bigger, but there isn't any extra food there.
Anonymous No.718462085 >>718462157 >>718462176 >>718462237 >>718468761
>>718461956
Cringe food analogy.
Also you're either missing the point entirely or just being ironically retarded, which I'll remind you is still being retarded.
The game feels great at 60 FFPS. It's a massive improvement over 30 FPS. Simple as.
You can watch the many YT videos in the search I linked above, or keep yapping like the mouthbreather you seem to be.
Have fun.
Anonymous No.718462157
>>718461956
>>718462085
Oh, but before I hide this ridiculous comment chain, I want to clarify that I encourage people not to buy that piece of shit remaster.
The fact that you can fix it with 3rd party programs is cool, but at the end of the day that doesn't change that all of Symphonia's remaster releases suck and Bamco don't deserve a penny for it.
But yeah, the PC version with those fixes is easily better than every other release, it is what it is.
Anonymous No.718462176
>>718462085
It isn't 60fps, those aren't real frames. It's even less of an illusion than interlacing.
>YT
Enjoy making Goygle revenue for free.
Anonymous No.718462237
>>718462085
Only an Nvidia user would defend fake frames this hard.
Anonymous No.718463469
>>718461757
I never understood this "argument".
So what the fuck does it matter if those are "fake frames" when the end result is that it's smooth exactly like it's 60 "real" frames per second? What do you gain from them being "real" if the end result is the same?
Anonymous No.718463557 >>718463589 >>718465206 >>718465218 >>718466264 >>718466456
Never tried a tales game before is Zestiria good?
Anonymous No.718463589
>>718463557
Not really. It's a mess.
Anonymous No.718465206
>>718463557
Nope. It's pretty bland and boring, and it has some issues in the story and character department too which its anime adaptation tried to fix. There's hints that point to it having a troubled development so that might be a big reason why it was such a poor Tales game.
The game was so bad that Hideo Baba, who was involved as a director or a producer for most of the games since the original PS2 release of Tales of Destiny left soon after Zestiria came out (or maybe they forced him to leave, we'll never know for sure.)

I'd suggest to check out the first few minutes of each game on YT and jump into whichever looks cooler to you desu.
My personal picks would be Phantasia PS1 or Abyss. Maybe Vesperia if you're not in this for the gameplay (because the combat is a snoozefest that only starts to open up when you get close to the endgame.)
You could also wait a few hours. We'll get a teaser of Xillia's remaster in 3hs and 19mins.
The Xillias are a good starting point too, and there's a bigger-than-zero chance they announce a 2-in-1 pack with the 2 games (probably won't happen, but still.)
Anonymous No.718465218
>>718463557
>hours of walking slowly on giant empty fields
>shitty battle system that completely misunderstood Graces, the game basically forces you to do the same combos over and over
>boring story, with a couple good ideas that aren't enough to save it
>fujo pandering to the max
Just play Berseria.
Anonymous No.718466264
>>718463557
not really, zestiria was after they stopped making good tales games
Anonymous No.718466456
>>718463557
I always get bored trying to play it, dungeons are a bunch of corridors that make combat cramped as hell, and the main heroine is written out of the story for no reason.
Anonymous No.718468623
>>718460256 (OP)
Bump
Anonymous No.718468694 >>718469135 >>718469367
>>718460824
someone made a mod for that and a bunch of other Tales games, and then a bunch of faggots harassed him until he pulled everything. i think it was called Special K or something
Anonymous No.718468761
>>718462085
how dare you use Rita for a shitpost of this poor quality
Anonymous No.718469135 >>718469209 >>718469367
>>718460824
If only it was that simple to modify every animation in the game that has physics tied to a target of 30 FPS.

>>718468694
>someone made a mod for that
Yesn't.
tosfix simply uncaps the framerate and nothing else.
As a result, the game runs at x2 speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEDqLoL8oZQ

Proper 60 FPS support is simply not going to happen until Symphonia gets a remake me thinks. It's definitely not getting patched into any of the remaster releases or else it would have happened already.
Lossless Scaling's Frame Generation for the PC version is as good as it's gonna get until then.
Anonymous No.718469209 >>718469367
>>718469135
>If only it was that simple to modify every animation in the game that has physics tied to a target of 30 FPS.
Wow dude, the gamecube must have been developed in the future then. I'm tired of hearing shitty excuses.
Anonymous No.718469367
>>718468694
>>718469135
Side note: Kaldaien is a bigger faggot than the people who triggered his latest hissy fit btw.
Feel free to google up articles about him.

>>718469209
Not an excuse, it's a fact.
It's super easy for a company that has the source code and the tools to do it.
But a modder? Not as easy.
Anonymous No.718469538 >>718479709
>>718460256 (OP)
Dont play Graces f at all because its easily one of the worst Tales of Animes and Tales of Animes aren't great to begin with.
Anonymous No.718469618
>>718460882
They lost the source code for the GC version, so they used the PS2 version.
Anonymous No.718470140 >>718470503
Just got Sheena on my team. How the fuck do I make her not fucking suck?
Anonymous No.718470503
>>718470140
If you're playing solo, you really just want to have your party use skills that help you combo the enemy. Things like Genis' Air Thrust, and well you'll figure out the rest. Sheena's just not very good but she's usable as long as you turn off attacks that knock down the enemy.
Anonymous No.718473910 >>718481867
38 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfIytHHiIyU
Anonymous No.718477773
>Only Xillia 1
for fucks sake, at least the is physical for switch 1
Anonymous No.718479663
>>718461804
It's not that Bamco hates Symphonia. They just do not give a single fuck. The reason it's stayed at 30fps for so long is because it would take actual effort to uncap it from the way it was programmed on PS2. And they hate making any sort of effort on Tales which is why they will never localize a fully untranslated game again either
Anonymous No.718479709
>>718461804
Graces f runs at 60FPS on PS3.
The remaster is lacking a lot of Japan-only DLC, if you happen to know Japanese it's still the best way to play it. If not then at least the remaster isn't outright insulting like Symphonia's or Abyss 3D.
>>718469538
Graces f was the last good Tales game desu
Anonymous No.718479991
>>718460256 (OP)
Remaster is the better version and has a few small QoL features as well as crisper visuals, though the PS3 version is not that far behind and is still excellent.
Anonymous No.718480695
>>718461029
Undubs exist, you dumb retard.
Anonymous No.718481867
>>718473910
I'll play it for Elize