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Anonymous No.718468780 >>718468983 >>718469076 >>718469202 >>718469285 >>718470151 >>718471084 >>718471524 >>718473207 >>718473267 >>718474192 >>718474584 >>718474708 >>718474782 >>718474874 >>718476473 >>718476560 >>718477114 >>718477668 >>718477905 >>718477970
I hate them so much bros
I hate everything they've done to gaming and I hate everything they stand for
Anonymous No.718468983
>>718468780 (OP)
Based. Death to Latinx.
Anonymous No.718469076 >>718470685 >>718471676
>>718468780 (OP)
I'll always look back on the PS1 and PS2 days fondly
But they totally shit the bed from the PS3 onward, every gen has been progressively worse.
Anonymous No.718469202
>>718468780 (OP)
Based
Anonymous No.718469285
>>718468780 (OP)
You're going to love them after Gamscom ONL today, trust me
Anonymous No.718470151 >>718470685
>>718468780 (OP)
OK ESL Xbox tranny
Anonymous No.718470685
>>718469076
Even the PS2 was starting to be too much. Its sales backed by its nature as a DVD player gave investors a false impression of the actual audience (at least for non-normalfag titles) on consoles, driving game development to cut complexity and quality significantly just to fit into the narrow bounds of what is possible on consoles.
Gaming reached a point where a lot more became possible for gaming, right as everything restricted itself just to fit an outdated paradigm, leading to stagnation within a fairly short period of time when compared to the rampant pushing of boundaries just one gen prior.
>>718470151
Xbox was part of the problem, but they likely wouldn't have had anywhere near the same success without the PS2.
Anonymous No.718470993 >>718471295
I have them both, playstation fucking sucks.
Anonymous No.718471084
>>718468780 (OP)
These are usually words I see associated with the Xbox brand.
Anonymous No.718471123
PS5 is the worst Sony console by far
Anonymous No.718471295
>>718470993
Xbox nation rise up
Anonymous No.718471524 >>718472928
>>718468780 (OP)
Sony used to be innovative and offered good products. PSX is still one of the best audio players, PS3 was the best bluray player on the market that could also play video games at half the price of bluray players, access the internet, store stuff. Move was unironically not a gimmick but a serious attempt to create motion gaming with high precision unlike Wii's casual non-player mote. Kinect had some use outside of video games but did fuckall for gamers. At the moment Sony is still the only one really truly trying to make serious VR games, selling their VR at a loss just to develop the tech further.

All that being said the moment I stopped buying their consoles and switched to PC I started to enjoy playing games again, and played more games in a single year than I did in the entirety of PS4's existence. I cannot go back. But it's not all bad. Out of all console makers, they are the only choice imo. Nintendo will never move the market forward and will keep selling the same recycled game for the 6285th time and Microsoft is just worse Sony.
Anonymous No.718471676 >>718475041 >>718476242
>>718469076
I really enjoyed the PS3 and PS4, that is, the 3rd party exclusive games that were released on them. Sony 1st party games were enjoyable at the time but that was it, not a single song or moment were able to turn into "memorable" to me.
btw in my case the fact that my PS2 killed 2 memory cards while I was playing it made it the system I played the least while also hating the most.
Anonymous No.718472928 >>718474954 >>718477018
>>718471524
>PSX CD player
>PS2 DVD player
>PS3 Bluray player
This is not videogames. It's neat Sony optical tech, but it's not vidya.
>Move
>Serious attempt to create motion gaming
I kind of agree, but also kind of don't, it was more or less just a blip and was outclassed by actual VR controllers by the time it was actually used for VR. The Wiimote was very half-baked and hampered by the fact that anal-retentive console devs don't like rebindable controls, but it's not like it wasn't a similar attempt to push motion controls forward, you really have to take into account that the capabilities of these devices weren't already at the same level of quality and affordability as we see on modern controllers.
>At the moment Sony is still the only one really truly trying to make serious VR games, selling their VR at a loss just to develop the tech further.
They are shitting up the VR ecosystem with yet another walled garden. Not even just that, they put out 2 separate walled gardens in the form of the PSVR1 and the PSVR2, both of which are mutually incompatible with one another. If they wanted to seriously prod VR games forward, then they should have made their main controller for the PS5 a VR controller and also incentivized devs to slap VR modes into their games, since even casual UEVR modding is yielding somewhat workable results for flat games, something that would be a massive boost to the availability of titles for VR. VR is too small of a niche for companies to be constantly trying to cut off and lock in small slices of the pie, it just ruins everything for everyone when a new headset and storefront isn't completely cross-compatible with Linux PCVR.
Anonymous No.718473038
Is this the Ninpedo SEETHE thread?
Anonymous No.718473207
>>718468780 (OP)
never forget it was xbox and their faggot fans who accepted subscription online play, and goaded playstation and their fans into it. The Xbox 360 and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Anonymous No.718473267
>>718468780 (OP)
This but MS, Nintendo and Valve as well.
Anonymous No.718474192
>>718468780 (OP)
OP here, sorry wrong pic
Anonymous No.718474584
>>718468780 (OP)
This but Shitemdo
Anonymous No.718474708 >>718477625
>>718468780 (OP)
This, but OP.
Anonymous No.718474782
>>718468780 (OP)
Stop crying you faggots. Things are still better than ever. You are just spoiled. Ignore the slop and you will be fine.
Anonymous No.718474850 >>718475658
https://youtu.be/2O_9hwQ8jLw?si=Obx0ckdnorQUC5mB halo in sony product
Anonymous No.718474874
>>718468780 (OP)
ONE GAME
Anonymous No.718474954 >>718477005
>>718472928
>They are shitting up the VR ecosystem with yet another walled garden. Not even just that, they put out 2 separate walled gardens in the form of the PSVR1 and the PSVR2, both of which are mutually incompatible with one another.
While true I don't think it matters. All we need is proof of concept and what I mean by that is a generally profitable VR industry. Even if they create a walled garden, their proof and iteration will lead to competitors and large innovation/production. Carmack did a lot of good work but the results are not there for the video game market. Maybe I am just naive but that's how I see it.
Anonymous No.718475041
>>718471676
"enjoying the PS4" is completely insane. Not one good exclusive outside of Bloodborne. Pretty shit performance overall, first and third party game included.

PS5 is much better hardware (comparable to it's era) but literally zero games. Like literally not a single exclusive game worth buying. And none on the horizon, too.
Anonymous No.718475379 >>718475614
i know it's a hot take, but even though i shat on it the day it came out, i've been warming up to the ps3 the past few years
the xmb is slow and the controller is meh, but i like custom themes
i like backwards compatibility
i like the focus on jrpgs and anime games
i like dvd AND bluray support
i like the free online (and i like pirating via pkgi)
i like a lot some of the games, like valkyria chronicles

it was definitely a huge bummer coming from the ps2 glory days, but i feel like the console isn't AS bad as people make it out to be. with the exception of bethesda games (they desperately needed more ram), it's a solid multiplat machine and the hardware has proven to be more long term reliable than the 360
Anonymous No.718475614
>>718475379
XMB was always functional and aesthetic. No console or mobile device has improved on it since.

Games were really not that bad. Not crazy shovelware but by the end of the generation the PS3 was worth it. It's achilles hill is shit performance in third party games.
Anonymous No.718475658
>>718474850
Better interpreted as Sony Product on PC with Microsoft branding
Anonymous No.718476242
>>718471676
Your fault for buying cheap third party memory cards.
Anonymous No.718476473
>>718468780 (OP)
how did they get away with moneyhatting their way to the industry? I mean we saw daily shitting on xbox news when they tried
Anonymous No.718476560
>>718468780 (OP)
What have they done to gaming and what do they stand for that has you hate them so?
Anonymous No.718477005
>>718474954
>All we need is proof of concept
While I dislike a lot of it, I think that the Quest line-up isn't doing a bad job as a proof-of-concept, since it is cheap and standalone, but works with PCVR. One of the bigger issues with VR and motion controls in general is that it is generally unmarketable without just trying it for yourself (the Wii marketing focused on jumping around everywhere is a bit of a demonstration of just how poisonous misleading marketing can be for an idea) and the best way to mitigate that issue is to lower the barrier to entry as much as feasibly possible.
If they had put the R&D for the Dualsense into launching the console with VR controllers and just slapped a more refined Google cardboard for wifi 6E streaming onto their console with a fully fledged VR headset waiting in the wings, they could have probably bridged that marketing gap by making it ludicrously trivial to just try VR with your existing hardware and probably even your existing games.
>Even if they create a walled garden, their proof and iteration will lead to competitors and large innovation/production.
I really think that the walled garden has to flow back into the general ecosystem with some immediacy or you risk losing attentiveness and knowledge of its existence. A niche ecosystem like this can't waste time on building everything mostly from scratch multiple times, since you'll need a new proof of concept every time.
Anonymous No.718477018
>>718472928
I don't know a single person that bought a Playstation to use as a CD player. That was back in the days where you would buy a shitty all in one stereo with a tape deck/radio/cd player from Radioshack, have a shitty D battery radio or you'd buy a receiver and put together a component system. If anything, you should shit on the Saturn for the VCD card and being the first multi-media machine.
Anonymous No.718477114 >>718477809
>>718468780 (OP)

Xbox and Nintendo aren't exactly doing hot either to be fair. If the Xbox brand actually survives the next few years i will be very shocked.
Anonymous No.718477237 >>718480098
I don't hate them I'm just mostly indifferent. I dont think Ive even played a PS5 since it came out. I can't remember if I've ever even held a dualsense in my hand. I liked consoles when they didnt come tied to an ecosystem. I don't wanna pay every month to have the full experience of the console. It's why my Series X is collecting dust and probably why the big console companies all want Steam ruined.
Anonymous No.718477625
>>718474708
This, but (you)
Anonymous No.718477668
>>718468780 (OP)
Japan company btw
Anonymous No.718477809
>>718477114
>Nintendo aren't exactly doing hot
Anonymous No.718477905
>>718468780 (OP)
But enough about you're favorite company you worship
Anonymous No.718477970
>>718468780 (OP)
Based sony hater
Anonymous No.718480098
>>718477237
My main thing is the always online shit. If I wanted to be always online, and not own anything, I'll just play on PC.
Anonymous No.718480809
success breeds jealousy
Anonymous No.718482212
Kill Sony fans