Thread 718470845

>spend years marketing the game as hard sci-fi "NASApunk"
>halfway through the main story you find out you are the dimension jumping "Starborn" with access to literal space magic
Quite possibly the most bizarre 180 I've seen in a game. Either way, Starfield's biggest problem was its overreliance on procedural generation. 99% of the worlds are only populated with radiant POIs and nameless NPCs. You will pretty much never land on a planet and come across and actual settlement with handcrafted NPCs and quests. The only places you find that kind of content in are the 4-5 planets with cities / hub zones and one-off locations like Red Mile or Paradiso, where you might receive a quest that sends you to another planet, which just entails loading screen fast travel. If I remember correctly, if you visited a place where a quest would take you to and you hadn't started the quest at the designated giver, there would just be nothing going on there. Bethesda completely destroyed the organic exploration that was one of the stronger aspects of their other RPGs. The game may have actually been decent if it was contained to 7-8 planets that actually had shit that made you want to explore, and rewarded you for doing so.

>>718470845 (OP)
what pissed me off was that the starborn were just humans. like they were so fucking lazy and cheap to make a new enemy

I still didn't buy it.
And I won't.

>>718470845 (OP)
Starfield was originally supposed to be a 24-system universe, one solar system for each letter of the Greek alphabet. Unfortunately, that fell out in favor for a marketable “1000 exploitable planets and moons”.

Also, anyone filtered by the Starborn is a midwif, it’s a clever inversion. Making the Starborn aliens or angels is a stupid fucking idea.

>>718471339
Nobody's filtered by bad writing, Emil

>>718471429
explain why it’s bad writing

Boy, Koreans really hated this game

>>718471514
The Starborn are meant to be intimidating and mysterious, a group of dimension hoppers with advanced tech, ships, suits, and literal superpowers. Everyone talks up how alien they are and that continuing to search for the Artifacts would be dangerous given these Starborn are hunting for them too... except the only one who becomes an actual threat is the Hunter, purportedly the strongest one of them all since he’s implied to have gone through the Unity hundreds if not thousands of times. Every other Starborn? They don’t gather a single artifact and constantly get themselves killed attacking an explorer group whose specialty isn’t even combat. How are dimension hopping, ageless superhumans so damn incompetent? They made it through the Unity once but can’t defeat a rich guy’s explorer club? Hell, if the Hunter is any indication then the majority of the time the only casualty in his jaunts is the Player. Who, if your alternate universe self is any indication, really was just a random background NPC miner who got suckered into what they assumed to be a harmless exploring job. So despite their absurd advantages, in the vast majority of universes, their only kill is a rookie space miner who had no prior combat experience and somehow they failed to gather the Artifacts before Constellation started grabbing them up over the course of what’s implied to be at least years.

>>718470845 (OP)
what the... heck... op was right.... *gulp*

also they should first set the player explore a planet before sending them off to go anywhere they want. but they can't because there's nothing to explore in their broken procedural world. the game has the worst pacing - literally nonexistent - any big video game has ever had.

>>718470845 (OP)
Todd never read any sf novel from the 50s-70s which is disappointing and insulting.

>>718471429
Emil didn't write the main quest. That was Will Shen

>>718475869
Emil Pagliarulo is the game's lead writer and has constantly mentioned online how writing Starfield made him "question his own religion" and shit like that. He unironically believes the in-game conversations with Matteo and Keeper Aquilus to be deep and philosophical.

>>718476534
That's cool, but Will Shen still wrote the main questline and that's where all the Starborne shit is

>>718474417
It's simple really, Constellation is an anomaly pretty much on par with past Bethesda game adventurers. How does a prisoner manage to rise up the ranks and fell hundreds of bandits, creatures and demi gods? How does a random Joe from a vault manage to fell armies of gun wielding bandits, mutants and exploding zombies? Also, keep in mind that the Constellation companions except for maybe Barrett all have combat training and experience, so it makes sense for them to be able to hold their own against the Starborn, who are probably for the most part just a bunch of random mooks brought along to the Unity with whoever their Captains were in a previous universe. Sarah is a war vet, Sam is an ex cop, and Andreja was likely trained and experienced combat as part of her background as a spy for House Va'ruun and being an ex-smuggler. It makes sense for someone as green as the Spacefarer to be the one who gets killed in most cases.

>>718476686
But he didn't. He was the lead quest designer and wrote some side content like he did in Skyrim and F4

>>718478030
He was responsible for the main quest including the temples and all the starborn stuff. Emil did the faction quests

>>718474417
this shit is so fucking gay and hacky

>>718474417
Whatever word vomit you brought up before is entirely irrelevant, and I can tell you never paid attention to the game.
The Hunter literally says to your face that he always waits for (You), in every universe, to collect the artifacts, so he could swoop in and kill you for it instead of doing all the work because he did this shit a thousand times. It’s just that now, it’s different, (You) actually managed to survive in this very universe, which takes him by surprise, and that permanently changes things going forward.

>>718474417
Ummmm that's too long so the game is good! hahaha owned owned!!! imagine being the clinical retard above me

I wouldn't even bother trying this game for free, thats how unappealing everything about it has been since launch to me. The biggest waste of time and resources Bethesda could come up with, and Todd's "Magnum Opus" to top it off

>>718478369
Thus the "lead quest designer" part, keep up. Emil wrote the main quest, and you cannot prove otherwise.

This is the one game that truly infuriated me. You can see the production value (for bethesda standards) and the high budget (for bethesda standards). They sold their soul to create the most soulless slop ever known to man. Imagine the kind of soulful jank they could've created with that much time and money

The "religions" in Starfield were just stupid and frankly I think they were shoe-horned in at the last minute because some focus group tester asked if they're all atheists in the future?
They never explain any of the differences between the dipshit religions. In Character Creation, there's no explanation about them at all except being a member of Space Church A gives you a storage chest in Space Church A's location whereas if you're a member of Space Church B you get a storage crate in Space Church B's location.

>>718478953
Nigger he takes credit for writing it on Bethesda's own website. https://bethesda.net/ko/game/starfield/article/2oORQbdXemsEnCV7EcxHV4/meet-will-shen-lead-quest-designer-on-starfield-at-bethesda-game-studios#:~:text=What%20are%20you%20working%20on,quests%20we%20were%20excited%20about.

>>718478934
>true aryan engineering

>>718470845 (OP)
I could've ignored the shit tier story, if the gameplay was actually fun, but this shit was just ass. And no amount of mods can ever fix this.
So it's back to playing modded Skyrim, I guess.