Thread 718471376

>ITT; Difficulty spikes

This fucking shithead comes out of nowhere at the last minute of the game and completely fists you unless you sit your ass down and grind

>Oh hey, were you having a good time?
>Let me fix that

>>718471376 (OP)
You're supposed to spam throw shurikens.

>>718471376 (OP)
>Playing the PSP version
>Game is pretty easy but the gimmicks are annoying
>Get to the final boss
>Die
>Release where the last save was

unironically just play the pixel remake

>>718471549
Even with this, its a complete DPS race that relies on you spamming Curaga every turn and your party having enough HP to facetank two FlareWaves if you get RNG fucked and CoD does its move between your heals

Only way you reasonably get to this point is by grinding - Its insane how many levels you need to gain between entering the Crystal tower and World of Darkness. I went from like 33 to 47 as I did it.

>>718471376 (OP)
That last stretch of FF3 is just total fucking ass. What idiot thought not having a single savepoint through not one but like fucking SIX god damn bosses across two dungeons back to back was a good idea?

>>718471851
>FF3 is just total fucking ass
FTFY

Fuck these fucking dragons

>>718471376 (OP)
>harder than postgame bosses

>>718471851
>Three bigass dungeons back to back with asshole layouts
>Riddled with unskippable cutscenes
>A gatcha final boss which will likely wipe you at least twice (Once before you realize it can't be killed before talking to the dark warriors, and the second once you realize it isn't actually weaker after this)
>On top of which there's a bunch of mandatory bosses, several of which are run enders like the dragon who's entire gimmick is that it oneshots a party member each turn
>You can't save at any point during this

Pour one out for the Japanese children in the 90s who did this without a guide on original hardware because its genuinely like a two hour run that can randomly end because of bad RNG and you'd likely have to run it three times before realizing you need to grind like a motherfucker to even stand a chance

Like I can almost respect Square for how fucking randomly ridiculously hard they made the final stretch of the game. Its like "Oh, you've gone trhough the whole game and want to see the ending? You better earn that shit, bitch"

>>718471376 (OP)
If it's like the 3D version, melee is the key. You need to reclass one of those mages (devouts?). I ran:
>warrior
>black belt
>monk
>devout

>>718472658
The 3D version has different job balancing. In the original and PR there is literally no benefit to using anything other than Ninjas and Sages by the end

>>718472287
Wait what do you mean 3 dungeons.... oh right fucking Eureka. The optional area that two fucking giga wizards kill themselves to... seal or something?

Fuck me at least with that one you can like run all the way back out of the crystal tower to save once you grab all of the stuff in there. It's not like remotely fun but you can technically do it. I never did beat FF3 as a kid because of that bullshit final dungeon either I always ended up getting bodied by Cerberus.

>>718472019
Don't mind if I do.

>>718472287
You have to understand that things were different then. Of course, a punishing two-hour run somewhat reliant on chance and a long grind is unthinkable today, but back when FFIII originally released there was basically no Internet, no streaming, no Netflix, far less things to keep track of and be distracted by from moment to moment. Not to mention, the game technology itself was so limited that only the system itself and a barebones story could fit onto the cartridge; games at that time were transitioning from the old arcades onto home consoles, so the idea of retrying entire runs wasn't unusual at all. Most of the drama happened in the living room with the players themselves, because the game didn't have the capacity to have it play out on-screen yet.
It was probably a fucking fantastic time.

After playing FF2 I just decided there's no fucking way I'm going to play FF3, it's the only game from 1-10 I haven't touched. Looks like it was good call, but 2 was pretty bad as well. At least it was amusing how many of playable characters have died

>>718473985
The ds version of 3 is fun

>>718473636
this, that shit built character desu

I think more than half of rpg has difficulty on final boss.
Like "who the fuck allow you to go from final boss -1 to final boss. Go grind, explore, farm first"

>>718473985
Bad choice. III iss the first masterpiece Squaresoft created.

(I did the same thing with VIII and IX back in the day.)

>>718471376 (OP)
Cloud of Darkness isn't that difficult. The gauntlet before reaching it is the only reason it's remotely challenging which is how a good JRPG should be designed.

>>718473985
As someone who's played every single Final Fantasy, 3 is definitely worth playing. The DS version is more polished, though.

>GOD tier
9
5
Tactics
>Good tier
7
6
8
4 (both SNES and DS)
3 DS
Crystal Chronicles
>Okay tier
1
10
3 NES
12
Chocobo Racing
>Shit tier
2
13
14
15
16

>>718474883
>played 9
Why don't you take a seat?

FFV unironically ruined final fantasy for me. The others don't feel as fun

>>718471376 (OP)
Glad I beat it as a kid when I loved to grind. Characters to max level.
Cloud of Darkness couldn't outbeat my super heal. Also thought she was FF7 Cloud.

>muh savepoints
Lmao /v/ can't even beat a final fantasy game.

>>718478080
Show us your run.

>>718477382
Did you at least have frame skip enabled

>>718473636
Anon the damn DS version was the same, they added NO save points at all in that final stretch.

>>718471376 (OP)
With the exception of like 3, every boss in that game is a cheap difficulty spike because they all function the exact same: hope the boss doesn't go twice in a row with their party-wide spell.

Once Takumi pops the dragon vein on this map was when I realized the game wasn't fucking around

>>718471549
Going through Eureka to unlock ninja and sage is a form of grinding anon.

>>718478370
I was a kid with a modded PS1.
Beat it back in 2001 one. Was like 12.

>>718478431
The DS version only had 3 enemies on the screen. Stop whining

>>718478613
How did you play FF3 on a PS1?

>>718473985
Just play the Pixel Remaster version anon. They added multiple save points throughout the Crystal Tower so it's nowhere near as punishing not to mention the PR games generally having both auto-save and quick save.

The entire gauntlet of going through 3 long ass dungeons with multiple bosses is still a bitch though.

>>718478981
The pirate scene was amazing.
Had this nes emulator, Twisted Metal compilation, fighting games compilations, etc.
Good times.
PS2 was no slouch either. Had PS2 GoW2 on a DVD despite game having double the data.

>>718471376 (OP)
Yes, but remember. Green Booba.

I played NES 3 completely blind a few years back. Crystal Tower crying is tuber opinion poser shit. You've given your very own portable uber shop at that point. You only have to go back like twice including if you do Eureka. Even Garuda is just a brief shitty gimmick. Now, Cave of Shadows and all of the mini dungeons after the first? Absolute fucking AIDS.

>>718478606
>sidequests are grinding
Brown fingers typed this post.

>>718471376 (OP)
Dragon Quest 2 has one of the most brutal spikes

>>718480260
>Even Garuda is just a brief shitty gimmick.
As I was a kid, I saved after my airship was blown up and was completely filtered by Garuda.
Did grind the fuck out and beat him without dragoon.
And tbf having to beat 2 dungeons back to back is annoying. I think FF2 also had one but at least I was playing the PS1 version so had map save.

>>718477382
>Also thought she was FF7 Cloud.
Lmao, god bless you anon

>>718478431
Yeah but the game in general is just higher quality and better. There aren't really any utterly useless jobs unlike in the NES one.

>>718482042
It's a sidegrade at best. The enemy party size being cut in half noticeably affects difficulty, but the jobs being balanced somewhat is nice. Making sages worse at summoning was retarded though, because that still won't convince anyone to use a summoner.

>>718477382
>Zidane as a white mage referencing Garnet, his love interest.
Kino.

>>718471376 (OP)
>An actual discussion of a retro game in /v/
Man /vr/ is so fucking shit

I haven't played the game in years, but the 1st time playing FFX I got walled by pic

I probably missed something easy, back then I would just kind of unga bunga through JRPGs

>>718480575
tl;dr? Haven't played 2

>>718471376 (OP)
I played the Pixel Remaster but this boss was incredibly easy.
My fighter and monk died near instantly, but my two mages just had the following routing:
>Curaja (Self/Whenever other mage is low) -> Aeroga (whenever full HP)
>Quake -> Drain (whenever low HP)
>Stockpile of elixers when needed

>>718483992
Its kind of anti climatic how she is very hard but Sin, the actual villain is easy as shit.

>>718483992
Nah she just subverts you a little. Naturally you hurry to cure any status effect your party gets inflicted with. And it just so happens that you'll finish up healing your party before defeating her second phase where she'll instantly hit you with a party wide Mega Death in her third phase. Couple that with her 10 minute unskippable cutscene and it's a recipe for disaster.

>>718484201
When you get to the last area, the difficulty ramps up HARD and the last dungeon has enemies that can insta-kill your party on their 1st turn. So you have to grind like hell to get to level 40 at least (you will likely be way under-leveled)

On the one hand, its pretty based that the game requires you to clear the original DK arcade to finish the game

On the flip side, this is disproportianally more difficult than anything else in the game, it forces you to do it twice, on hard mode, with no continues and you have to watch a long cutscene every time you fail

>>718484478
Any skill I've gained in the OG DK game I got from playing DK64
The space game was fun from my memory

>>718471376 (OP)
didn't grind, but it is one of the few times I've used save states
it would have been so much easier if I'd had enough money for one or two more shuriken

>>718472786
They're pretty nerfed in PR, I had to drop Sage and go back to my previous casting jobs.

>>718473985
II and III have practically nothing to do with each other, III is pretty much entirely a direct sequel to I.

where the game seriouses up permanently