Thread 718477380

Sakurai and Nintendo confirmed that the smash team has been working on Kirby Air Riders. That means no new Smash game this gen. Hope you guys like playing Ultimate for another 10 years

>>718477380 (OP)
add adventure mode and a proper all star mode and I'm set

>>718477380 (OP)
Good, I've been sick of Smashfaggots since 2008

>>718477380 (OP)
good ultimate was a bloated mess and roster faggots are insufferable

>>718477380 (OP)
>That means no new Smash game this gen

No, it means Sakurai isn't working on it. The fact the game of the games division asked him to make Air Ride and not Smash, knowing there is a new console coming up, means they didn't want him making Smash. It's still being made, just internally.

>Mario Kart 8 Booster Pass ends Nov 2023
>Namco puts out job postings for a 3D action game with a 2D side view
>Dec 2023, after not getting updated in more than a year, Ultimate gets updated with new spirits events
>Nintendo updated their trademark for Smash, among other titles, in 2024
>https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/10/nintendo-cooks-up-new-food-and-accommodation-trademarks-for-pikmin-smash-bros-and-more

Its probably coming 2026 or 2027, but its coming.

>>718477380 (OP)
>Ultimate
I'll play U, Brawn and Melee like a cultured player.

>>718477380 (OP)
Sakurai is probably already halfway through Smash 6 already

Did he say the smash team or is it just under the same studio (Namco)? Cuz he also said he spent 5 months putting together a team after DLC for Smash ended for this game

But I have already been playing Melee for 24 years

>>718477380 (OP)
>Sakurai and Nintendo confirmed that the smash team has been working on Kirby Air Riders
Nothing makes me seethe more than these retarded claims, I still remember you faggots claiming that Elden Ring was made by the B-team because the A-team was making armored core or whatever.

>>718482308
Think he meant under the same company. Smash team went to help with Tekken 8. The delay may have been on HAL's part since it lines up with the completion of Forgotten Land

>>718477748
>roster faggots are insufferable
They're not going away, they're just gonna be pestering Sakurai to add literally whos from Kirby to Air Riders

>>718480548
Even if Sakurai wasn't involved it wouldn't make much sense to ditch all the developers that worked on it and having a new development team figure it out, considering the Smash Ultimate team is working on air riders.

>>718477748
>>718483583
the worst thing about rosterfagging is it also delays the next smash game. Ultimate came out in 2018 but they spent another 3 fucking years on pay to win characters.

>>718477380 (OP)
>game by this director releases within 6 months of new console
>That means no new Smash game this gen
It's amazing how little a poster on this video game board can know about the actual development of video games.

>>718483946
Smash is too big to be done the way it is currently. You can't have it be made by a mercenary development team like it has been. Sakurai himself has said this was unusual and it only happened because Iwata wanted Sakurai to make it more than anything else. Nintendo has been fine with giving younger developers the reigns of projects so they probably want a team that can make it whenever rather than rely on Sakurai forever. Moreso Sakurai himself is already 55. He's only has 1, maybe two more Smash Bros games left before he's too old.

why do people think the next smash won't be a booster course/S2 upgrade of content

>>718477380 (OP)
>That means no new Smash game this gen.
you don't think he can't make it after this as a mid-gen release

>>718477380 (OP)
Good. Rostertrannies deserve to suffer.

I don’t need another Smash game. Ultimate did everything I wanted and any future game will have the have less content. The series is over (I know they’ll still make another because they need money, but I won’t be purchasing it).

>>718477380 (OP)
I got the wii, wii u, 3ds and switch for smash
This will hurt the most when the next one comes out, because there's nothing Nintendo can (but won't) do to bring me back

>>718477380 (OP)
smashpedos lost

>>718481863
yeah I mean air riders has probably been finished for a while now and he's spent that time working on something new if he is still working

>>718477380 (OP)
>implying they're not just gonna make Switch 2 exclusive DLC

>>718485718
He says he wrote up his proposal around the time he was working on Smash DLC so he probably went straight into production of Air Riders in 2021. It's extremely unlikely that he's spent four years making it, especially since the GC original took less than a year and a half.

I'm pretty sure this game has been ready for a while and Smash 6 is in the oven as we speak.

>>718484921
Because Ultimate already sold 35 copies.

They want people to go out and buy a new game, not just DLC.

>>718486678
35m

>>718486496
They didn't start development until April 2022 so it's only been about 3 years. Game development also takes way longer than it did during the Gamecube days

>>718486678
>Because Ultimate already sold 35 copies
Technically you're not wrong

>>718484921
Because Nintendo sells premium games and a new Smash game would bring insane hype, same as it ever was

>>718486678
>Because Ultimate already sold 35 copies.
FUARRKKK THAT MANY

Fuck you OP, for falseflagging I declare you a nigger. Smash being actively worked on in fact just got MORE likely you see, Bandai Namco set up two teams for Nintendo projects a few years ago-Studio S and Studio 2. Job listings suggested that they were working on a 2D game and 3D action game so now that Sakuraisan said what he said I assume Studio S is working on the 2D game and it's Smash, and this Kirby game is from Studio 2 and it is the 3D action game. Nigger, here's a link discussing the teams: https://gonintendo.com/contents/301...eveloping-2d-and-3d-action-games-for-nintendo fuck you.

>>718477380 (OP)
Good. Smash should never return

>>718477380 (OP)
>Hope you guys like playing Ultimate for another 10 years
What’s wrong with that?

>>718480548
>>718483946
What will actually happen is just a "Smash Ultimate Deluxe Edition" with two or three more DLC passes.

Just play Melee / Modded Brawl / Ultimate, work on your backlog until the next Smash, or take a fucking shower your impatient rostercuck.

>>718488268 >>718488294
See >>718487752 I get it, it is hard to read something and actually comprehend it if you're shat out in the zoomer era but just try and keep up for once

>>718477380 (OP)
Its hilarious that they decided to make fucking Mario Kart a launch title instead of Smash Bros. Doesnt help that its one of the worst MK games too and even some fanboys are admitting as such. Meanwhile Smash Bros would always have a healthy online community for its entire lifespan as it had both, a lot of casuals coming for nostalgia as well as the FGC autists keeping it alive.

>>718488512
Don't care, smash should die

>>718487752
>>718488512
>likely
>assume
>i-it's smash trust me
fuck off smash zoom tard, it's over
Sakurai left you greedy faggots for good.

>>718488706
MK8 sold like 2x as much as Smash and was a port lol. Of course MKW is gonna be the launch title.

>smash bros misisng in action due to air riders
>mainline 3d mario notanytime soon cause of bananza
>animal crossing devs busy with raiders
whats the point of buying switch 2 lol

>>718488368
>Smash Ultimate Deluxe Edition

That will never happen due to the legal nightmare Ultimate is and all the DLC deals.

>>718490286
>That will never happen due to the legal nightmare Ultimate is and all the DLC deals.
It's more likely Nintendo signed specifically worded contracts than them just assuming "Yeah, this will be the only time we ever want to release this game".
It's likely that the clause includes rereleases and revisions, with a set payment being made to the respective companies upon a reissuing of the title, which isn't that uncommon.

Even if they didn't, it's not like Nintendo burned bridges with the companies involved.

Smashfaggots are so fucking annoying your trash party game isn't even a real fighting game its just a vessel for rosterfaggotry

>>718491416
That will also never happen because these companies aren't going to sign these contracts that bind them indefinitely. Also, the companies that signed over their characters as DLC are going to be pissed that people can now get their characters in one package. Either way, they are going to want to get paid to use their characters. Its why they agreed to all of this in the first place. Smash fans need to realize there is going to be a massive gutting of the third party characters and Ultimate was a one time thing.

The only way Smash can succeed moving forward is if they learn to make one without Sakurai. He wont be making games forever.

The next smash should be pretty different anyway. How can you compete with one that has every single character to date + 2 season passes? You can't. So the next one should be scaled back and a different approach.

Even if a new Smash game is made,
people will just continue to play Ultimate and Melee.

Why are people so convinced there will be another one? Doesn't the title 'Ultimate' imply that it is the final ultimate game? I.e. that it can't be improved upon?

And wasn't the entire marketing campaign for Ultimate predicated on the idea that it would be the definitive Smash game? EVERYONE IS HERE and all that?

>>718492296
>That will also never happen because these companies aren't going to sign these contracts that bind them indefinitely.
That wouldn't be indefinite. It'd be for a singular game and subsequent reissues of said game, which again, is not actually that uncommon.
>Also, the companies that signed over their characters as DLC are going to be pissed that people can now get their characters in one package
Again, as we're not privy to contracts we don't actually know the extent of them, but a clause regarding reissued bundles is also probably a thing.

>>718477380 (OP)
They've finished KAR a while ago. The new Smash is on early stages of development,and they've proven they can shit it out FAST (see Wii U/3ds)

Besides, the main team behind Smash wasnt there for the DLCs, so... What have they been doing for that long? Just Kirby? Doubt it

>>718486678
uh, chartsissies? i thought smash was a heavy hitter?? is nintendo doomed for real??

Ultimately, it doesn't matter to me because:
1. Smash's gameplay and online infrastructure have both been bad since Brawl
2. Ultimate's sheer volume of content is cool, but I only really enjoyed spirit battles, which was a glorified event mode from Melee but with worse balance
3. Rivals of Aether 2 exists and I've been enjoying it much more than I ever enjoyed Ultimate or 4

I'm also a huge Air Ride fan, so whatever

>>718499613
>Rivals of Aether 2 is getting workshop support before Smash 6 comes out
>maybe even before it's even announced
honestly quite incredible

>>718501249
The real question to me is whether Brawlback will ever come out. If it doesn't, I hope some of the talented PM / HDR modders read the writing on the wall and realize that RoA2 would be a better use of their time and effort.
I'd still really like Brawlback to come out, as a disgusting Legacy XP enjoyer.

>>718477380 (OP)
I'm happy to see smash end on a bad note so melee can eventually surpass yet another smash game

>>718487752
How do we know they haven’t closed down? They took down the website for those studios

>>718477380 (OP)
>Nintendo not taking advantage of one of their most viral franchises
>Sakurai not directing a new iteration of his most popular series, especially when you consider his pay is based on how his games sell
Nintendo and Sakurai will pump out another Smash, after Air Riders... and a Kid Icarus Uprising port, of course!

>>718499613
Yeah Rivals 2 is insanely good. Honestly it’s way better than even Melee was. Smash has zero chance of competing as long as Sakurai is still directing

>>718499613
Honestly, I'll happily play RoA2 for the rest of my days. Every character having their own little gimmick is so cool and keeps things interesting when watching matches online.

>>718507884
I like RoA2 but this is such a gross exaggeration that I feels like it's a false flag. RoA will literally never compete with Smash. Competitive Smash represents like 1% of Smash sales and players, even if it disproportionately represents the people still playing Melee and Ultimate years later.
>it's way better than even Melee was
It isn't even finished. It's better than Melee in terms of balance and not having to buy a modified, $200 GCN controller to play it seriously, but that's about it. But Workshop support is the big thing that will set it apart from other games.

>>718508761
Yeah no shit I’m talking competitive. I don’t really care about the opinion of people who play these games casually. And outside of balance Rivals 2 also has better game-feel and deeper gameplay.

I think Sakurai should take a break from Smash Bros. and break up some of the dumb things that had been added to the series out of convenience but he thinks is now important to the legacy like the clone characters.

I'd prefer a Switch 2 upgrade that brings fighters pass 2, improved visuals, and some other content that brings the game up to date with content from entries that released after it (AC New Horizons, Splatoon 3, Mario Wonder, Metroid Dread, etc).

The weird, "I hate content, cut the roster next time" fags can go fuck themselves.

>>718508726
>keeps things interesting when watching matches online
As a player and a spectator, I just like how dynamic the game is. What I like about Melee and Rivals is how important momentum is. There are sets where Mang0 looks like the best player to ever play, and there are sets where Mang0 looks like a fucking buster and SDs 2 times on Yoshi's. RoA2 has that dynamic back-and-forth that's missing in Ultimate. It's unpredictable, but not random.

Ultimate is Sisyphean. You roll the boulder that is Steve, Snake, Min-Min, G&W, Sonic, and ROB up the hill, and then it rolls right back down. Or if you're a casual player playing online, that boulder is any character that benefits from input delay and wi-fi. Every game is death by a thousand safe, auto-cancel aerial paper cuts because combos are verboten, so it's just this slow, inevitable descent into the top tiers winning because they aren't even playing Smash. It's just depressing to play or watch.

>>718477380 (OP)
>Hope you guys like playing Ultimate for another 10 years
Im fine with it, i mean, look at smelee faggots