Thread 718480596

>Stab an unsuspecting NPC in the back, he screams
>Other NPC in the camp goes "WTF was THAT? That didn't sound good, I'm gonna check it out!"
>His buddy goes "are you fucking insane!? We don't know what's out there, stay in cover!"
>"Fuck you, I'm moving to a better position!"
>Moments later, breaks from cover and heads across the road
>Fill him full of lead
>Start lobbing molotovs around the camp
>Fire SPREADS, IN REAL TIME ALL AROUND
>"HOLY SHIT WE'RE GONNA BURN TO DEATH"
>"THERE HE IS!"
>Intense firefight ensues as I run into a nearby Adobe shack for cover
>"The fucker ran into that building I'm going in, cover me!"
>"No bro, don't be fucking stupid, just toss a grenade in there"
>"Aye, that's a good idea"
>>Hoof it out of the building just in time to watch him lazily underhand toss a grenade through the doorway I just exited
>Put a few rounds into him while the entire surrounding area engulfs in flames
>"Christ, I'm shot! Don't think I can move!"
>Other NPC: "FUCK, stay there, I'm coming!"
>Runs over, PICKS HIM UP and carries him to cover to heal him
>Kill him before he can and he drops his wounded comrade to the ground
>Wounded NPC withdraws his pistol and decides to try to hobble to cover by himself
>I follow him
>He falls down, leans up against a tree and starts taking potshots at me with his .45
>Shoot him into the head
>Camp cleared, entire area blackened as fire crackles in the trees and bushes

What the FUCK happened to AI in video games!? This was in 2008 for Christsakes..

that's a whole lot of words just to say that stealth kills don't work

>>718480821
Not funny. Stupid redditor cuckoid.

>>718480596 (OP)
FC2 was kino (and depressing) but the goons respawning at the checkpoints every 1,000 feet the second you're out of visual range was annoying

shut the fuck up fag no one cares

>>718481087
You sound like a BITCH

>>718480596 (OP)
I don't understand why fucking FEAR gets the AI accolades when Farcry 2s are more down-to-earth, subtle, immersive and more believable.

>>>Game everyone thought was a mildly mediocre, middle-of-the-road 7/10 experience "good but not great" ends up being the best installment in the franchise in retrospect

I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head

>>718482309
>middle-of-the-road
>7/10
That does make me wonder, when exactly did people start using the out of 10 scale wrong? As in, why the fuck is 5/10 considered absolute garbage when it's literally supposed to be what middle of the road is.

I was always dissapointed with fc2's bog standard shootan and missions designed to just waste your time
needs to be remastered with some of the general gameplay improvements at least from fc3, I haven't played any others

>>718482678
7 has always been "middle-of-the-road" in video game rating speak. The ultimate "It's good but not amazing" 70% out of 100 is usually a C grade.

>>718482309
Nice headcanon, subhuman

>>718482678
Games have to at least be good to keep me interested, if a game evokes the feeling a 5/10 implies I would just do something else.

>>718482934
>>718483164
Fair enough. But it does seem kind of silly since it's just essentially skipping half of the scale, 1-5 might as well be the same number, in fact this would make using an out of 5 scale more appropriate for this.

>>718483124
You seem needlessly, unreasonably blown the fuck out. I can't for the life of me imagine why.

>>718483238
AFAIK many countries use a 0-10 scale in elementary school but 4- is the lowest scoring you can have. So I guess a 7 is in the middle for many people.

>>718483238
Then you'd just say the same thing about a 1 or 2 out of 5. In today's world where the abundance of games leaves us with the luxury to be so picky the majority of games that bad simply don't get recognized in the first place.

And then the NPCs respawned 5 seconds later

>>718480596 (OP)
It's pretty good overall but the AI still suffers from MGS-tier alert/caution states that worsen the experience. What I mean is, when a guy sees you, the entire camp knows where you are for a specific duration of time. It doesn't matter if you run and hide someplace else because you're in an alert state and the AI can see you through walls (and in the case of this game, will try to shoot you through them) for the duration of it. Only when you stay out of sight for an arbitrary duration of time does the AI return to their caution search state. This means flanking is impossible once you're in combat, unlike STALKER for example where the AI will only know of your last seen location.

>>718485643
I'm not having any of the issues you just stated at all. That being said, I did recently download a fan made patch so realistically speaking they might have changed a bunch of shit.

>>718483447
>fart
?

>>718482678
School grading where 70% is a C and 50% is an F

>>718485850
You probably noticed it. You start combat and run to some interior, and the AI outside is trying to shoot you to your exact location through the wall, like if they could still see you. The game did implement being able to shoot through walls to some degree so if it is one of those tin wall shacks they can even hit you.

>>718486417
That's only happened when they've watched me move behind something. I don't remember if vanilla has this system but some materials can be shot through and the AI knows this.

>>718480596 (OP)
Are you ready to hear the answer?
I've played Farcry 2 a bunch of times and never noticed anything like that. Why? Because I mowed down the enemies before they did any of that stuff.
Why would someone program, code, and script all that shit to happen, just for no one to see it because the enemies get mowed down in seconds?
It's a big waste of time, so nobody does it.
That's why.

>enemy voice lines on detection = good ai
fpsjeets are so funny

>>718486825
>I played on easy/normal
This is your own fault, scrub.

>>718486856
>Voiceline
>AI then acts on what was said and does it
You don't even know what you're talking about.

>>718486570
Yeah but it's not only the guy that watched you run inside the shack, it's the entire camp at that point. Until you manage to stay out of sight for a few moments they all know where you are, like in MGS.
This is better noticed in the claustrophobic favela shack town in the first map. The place is packed with dudes all around, so even though the place is filled with shacks to hide, once you start combat there's nowhere to hide or run. They will continuously shoot you through the walls, the rpg guy will lock in on you too even if you got spotted on the other side of the camp. It's a clusterfuck, my least favorite camp.

>>718487150
You're wrong. Probably haven't even played it for years. Your recollection is faulty.

>>718486962
it's not very smart to yell what you are about to do in combat so the enemy could hear you if you think about it...

>>718487391
Anon... It's a video game.

>>718487391
To be fair, you aren't fighting highly trained and organized spec ops or whatever, just some nogs in africa who are trying to communicate with their allies whilst under stress.

>>718487546
I suppose they don't care if they are going to respawn either way

>>718480596 (OP)
That sounds nice but i pirated it and i couldn't move the camera, and i couldn't fix it in 5 minutes so it's objectivly shit, sorry not sorry

>>718487391
They're low rent mercenaries without sophisticated comms equipment in fucking darkest Africa.. it makes sense.

>>718485643
FC2 is just a rare game that has good AI and realistic stealth. Later games in the series, and most games in general, are just casual retard shit where if you're crouching in shadows or plants, you're invisible, even if you can visibly be seen. Most games just flag it so you're invisible in those areas even if, where you to put the camera in an NPC's eyes and look through it, they can see you.

>>718487329
Ok, it has been a few years but I remember analysing the AI pretty thoroughly. You need to stay behind solid walls for a few seconds to lose the alert state, tin walls will not do it.

>>718487682
>WAAAAAAHHHHHHH, I STOLE THIS AND IT DOESN'T EVEN WORK!! REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
KEK

FC2 also had the best selection of guns, hands down

>>718487914
I'm just mad it doesn't include the South African Vektor 4

>>718487802
>fc2apoligist
>is retarded
Classic

>>718480596 (OP)
Meanwhile
>original Far Cry
>pistol snipe guy across the map after binocular spotting the shot
>"Hmm. Gary's head just sprayed red mist out of it, and he fell over."
>"Oh, well."

>>718482309
learn how to greentext faggot, and the term you're looking for is YouTube effect. all games that launch with average to below average gameplay suffer this same fate in x amount of years, usually 4 or 5.

>>718480596 (OP)
They don't announce their tactics to you anymore? Wow bro I'm so sorry you have to figure shit out for yourself it must be hard.

You probably cried at basedperman's speech in the new movie, retard.

>>718488271
This post REEKS of onions

>>718487802
Tall grass at night makes you pretty fucking invisible in this game too. Like you can be pretty damn close before they start to see you (if they're in the relaxed state).
Having played this game on Infamous redux i felt naked when I wasn't in tall grass. Unfortunately, like I previously stated, it doesn't work on an alert state. Suddenly the blind as fuck ai can see and shoot you perfectly in tall grass, which used to piss me off to no end. They should at least have a hard time knowing exactly where you are if you keep moving around.

>>718488365
>Suddenly the blind as fuck ai can see and shoot you perfectly in tall grass
every modern tomb raider game

>>718488342
I like Vidalias, myself. I support local growers.

>>718488489
It's the MGS/fallout 3-like hidden/caution/danger AI states. It's an archaic as fuck system that keeps being used instead of improving the STALKER system. Though to be fair, STALKER also suffers from symbiotic AI. Unless they're stated to be communicating with radios or something, an entire giant camp shouldn't be able to know your exact location just because one guy saw you, especially when you ran away.

F.E.A.R. was also good at this, enemies communicating, reacting to what you're doing etc
came at the price of having primarily claustrophobic levels made of concrete but it was a fun game regardless
also the 1st expansion had some better levels

>>718488007
>crybaby wants to be invisible when he's crouching because casual games don't actually care about visibility mechanics

>>718488895
in some games, if they see you, you're on a quick timer. If you neutralize them before they yell out, then you will remain undetected to the surrounding people. I believe the Cod franchise still does this in their campaigns

>>718482678
it's never been used wrong, you're just an aspreger autist retard who doesn't understand how people rate things

9/10 is good
7/10 is mediocre
5/10 is bad
1/10 is just stop

>>718489327
70 is a barely passing grade. A 50 is failure, as are you.

>>718482098
fear had kino scripted sequences that made the most out of their enemy ai. fc2 had... >>718480912

>>718489110
>subhuman copes about dogshit that fc2 truly is
Embarrassing

>>718489327
>9 is just good
No wonder games like BG3 and Expendition 33 are considered masterpieces on this board.

9 or 10 is a nearly flawless experience
7 is pretty good
5 is mediocre slop
anything below 5 is garbage

>>718482309
Far Cry 3 and 4 are way better than 2
Even Far Cry 1 is better than 2

>>718490062
Wrong. Farcry 4 is the best of the Nu Crys I'll grant you that much.

>>718487821
I pirated an other bajillion games and they all worked, so it's your shitty game fault, feel free to keep seething though paycuck

>>718480912
I disliked it too kid but it turns you into a real man. In fact i think imma buy Far Cry 2 for the twelfth time now

>>718485995
keep your merilad mumbo jumbo of this yuropeen server

>>718492176
>yuropeen
>Engerlun banned from using it for forever
(You)re next, continentcuck.

>>718490062
>Far Cry 3 and 4 are way better than 2
>Play game as intended and clear outposts
>Your reward is nothing to do

>>718480912
>goons respawning at the checkpoints every 1,000 feet the second you're out of visual range was annoying
that ruined the game for me unfortunately

>>718490154
>Farcry 4 is the best of the Nu Crys
its the second worst in the series, only 6 is worse

>>718492560
>finish content
>get surprised that you're done with it
lmao

>>718492710
>Second worst when purple biker brownoid twin post-apocalypsecry, Gruggcry and faggot 80s Synthwavecry exist
Disingenuous faggot with shit taste.

>>718492898
Reminder that even the devs thought this was mistake because they later added the option to repopulate the enemy outposts.

>>718492953
>he counts the shitty dlcs with the actual games
lol. lmao even. neck yourself

>>718492953
>Hating Blood Dragon
Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l43xedx-6AU
the jackal tapes were kino af

>>718493016
The devs also made Far Cry 6 and AssCreed BlackFag so I dunno how that gives you any credibility

>>718493342
I don't think it was the same people. I've watched A LOT of video essays on these games and different studios pitched in on different parts of the game. I think the later, more decisive games weren't developed mainly by Ubisoft Montreal. I'm going off memory so I might be wrong.

>>718493109
Because it's dogshit and 80s culture is gay and insufferable?

>>718489732
stick to fortnite, kid. It's simple enough for your AIDS brain.

>>718493774
>I've watched A LOT of video essays
explains your malfunction