Thread 718497032

Why do weapons break so fast in these games?

>>718497032 (OP)
Artificial scarcity to stretch out gameplay length because the developers were too lazy to put in the effort of actually designing enganging dungeons

>>718497032 (OP)
So you switch to a new one.
>>718497349
It doesn't stretch it. It just makes you choose a different weapon when they break.

what pisses me off is, why does BOTW get 50 different covers, but Totk (The actual good one) doesnt.

>>718497032 (OP)
No over reliance on one weapon through the whole game

>>718497569
Ergo you have to get new weapons all the time because they break, QED.

>>718497905
Why can't I use one weapon if I want to?

>>718497032 (OP)
eh playing through BOTW now, I have no idea why people lost their shit over the durability
you have a ton of weapon slots and you still have power progression through armor and the shrines

>>718497349
This

>>718497032 (OP)
Because ypur playing conservatively and using your weakest weapons first.

Stronger weapons have higher durability and more damage so they last longer.

>>718498447
>so they last longer.
Only barely and minimally.

>>718498447
a full Master Sword charge will last you a whole silver bokoblin

>>718498091
Its because towards the end of the game enemy hp is so large that actually engaging in combat is a net resource loss the entire game turns into stealth or hit and run with shock to loot weapons then run away. Also ATK up armour is effectively mandatory unless you go out your way to farm mighty bananas because of the durability system.

>>718498091
>you have a ton of weapon slots
there are nowhere near enough weapon slots

>>718498726
Putting a cool down on the fucking master sword makes me really hate these new games and everything mechanically about them. It's just not Zelda anymore.

>>718498061
because player freedom is a faggot concept and thankfully someone at Nintendo understood this

>>718499740
Then why did they make an open world game?

>>718497032 (OP)
Why do you bitch about it?

>>718498051
You get weapons from the enemies you beat so you never have to go collect weapons

>>718497032 (OP)
Because they're badly designed, slapdash "Open World" games and the Japanese abhor Open World games.

>>718501803
based never played it before bro

>>718500038
Focus Groups and (((market trends)))

>>718497032 (OP)
It's meant to create a sort of scavenging playstyle where you use what you find in the moment - personally I think the fact the game even lets you store weapons at all is already a huge advantage.
It's like a modern shooter where you get two weapons at most and once you run out of ammo you look around for another one rather than relying on a stockpile in your inventory.

>>718502636
>It's like a modern shooter
Swords don't have ammo, so why would a sword and sorcery game work like a modern shooter?

>>718497032 (OP)
Link & Ganon are imprisoned in the matrix as they are the anomalous iteration. The weapons just cant handle the punishment, especially when link slows time beating things to a pulp "like an agent" The Hyrule you thought you knew is actually the furthest from the truth.

>>718502257
I beat both of the games and never had to go collect weapons

>>718501803
You say that but you don't think it through. For example, I find a Royal Greatsword, a solid mid tier weapon. Now if I continue to play normally then at best I may find a Moblin or a Bokoblin with a Dragonbone weapon. Now these aren't terrible in and of themselves but no Dragonbone weapon is going to compare to the Royal Greatsword I expended to get it. The only monsters in the overworld with something comparable would be the Lynels. But we're just kicking the can down the road at this point. If I want an equivalent exchange of weapons, then the ONLY creatures I can fight are the Lynel. Other than that, I can hunt down strong Guardian shrines or allow my best weapons to gather dust in my inventory. Every single engagement in Hyrule of the Wild is an opportunity cost and the majority of the time it just isn't worth it. So I have to keep a supply of garbage weapons I can use to justify combat with fodder enemies. Who the hell plays Zelda this way? Who the hell plays ANY video game this way? The whole point of getting the Master Sword in every other game is that you are now more powerful than you were before. Even if there were more powerful weapons in a particular game, each upgrade was a power milestone. But in Hyrule of the Wild, all your milestones are acquired in the first 2 hours of play. And the rest are temporary boosts that you have to convince yourself to use

>>718503008
sure thing prakesh

>>718502910
Because real swords dull and break with use, especially if you're fighting monsters with thick hides.

>>718502910
Real swords go blunt after killing a couple people.

>>718503206
So just save the good weapon for stronger enemies and use the lesser weapons on weaker enemies, you have plenty of weapon slots for that reason

>>718503206
Going by >>718502636 this is the equivalent of complaining tou can't use a grenade launcher in every fight.

>>718502636
Exactly. There are times in Halo where I kill an enemy and take their gun for a while. That experience happens far more often in Zelda Botw & Totk.

>Games
Thats one game and a DLC.

Because nintendo is full of retards who took a brief look at what's been happening in modern gaming then proceeded to dumbly copy popular trends without understanding what made them work (or didn't).
The weapon durability shit is one of them. It's so bad that it almost feels like some sort of parody. And nu-zelda shills struggle to come up with ANY sort of inteligent argument defending this crap that wouldn't get broken by "you can just do this without all your weapons being made of glass".

>>718499263
I mean at the end game you have access to whatever you want. Silver enemies drop gemstones for rupees. So you can just cheese anything you want dead with ice weapons/arrows.

Yiga are everywhere so you should be drowning in banannas too.

The complaint basically boils down to 'it becomes boring to fight trash mobs in post game.'

Game could have used a downstab to execute moblins faster.

>>718497905
There is ways to do that without making weapons break after 30 seconds of combat. All this creates is never caring about any weapon you earn because it will last you maybe one combat encounter max.

>>718505496
You're just too retarded to grasp any counter to you personally disliking weapon durability.

>>718497032 (OP)
Because these aren't Zelda games and Aonuma is a hack.

>Nintendo reinvents open worlds
>specifically design the game to discourage players wasting their time
>a vocal minority of gamers proceeded to waste their time anyway and complain about it
This shit is hilarious. You're not supposed to collect all the seeds. You're not supposed to fight everything all the time.

>OoT snoys are still seething at BoTW 8 years later
Amazing.

>>718505826
None of the possible "counters" carry any weight as they automatically expose one for having little experience with games and not knowing any better examples of games utilizing weapon durability mechanics.

Eric thread, don't reply
Hide this thread and say goodbye.
Don't fall for it, it's a ploy
From seething Eric, the evil snoy.

>>718506142
>y-you're just supposed to bing bing wahoo then kill ganon once you're bored! You're not supposed to actually care about the game and aim for full completion!
Thanks, Tik Tok.
>>718506259
>Oot snoys
You have to be baiting.

>>718506270
You're the one who cannot grasp ammunition. Your central gripe is basically why do guns run out of ammo.

>>718506491
Compulsion to 100% games ruins experiences more often than not. You're a toddler who needs his handheld through a life lesson.

>>718497349
Or maybe you're a retarded OOTsnoy who doesn't realize that Nintendo specifically designed mechanics to prevent you from wasting time.

>>718506543
>melee weapons use ammunition
>its okay to carry 10 swords instead of one because uh... swords are your ammo!!!
See what I mean?

>>718506815
There's 10 ammo in that situation. You use them up and replace them as you go. See what I mean

>>718506491
He's right though. When BoTW came out it mindbroke snoys so hard they flocked to fanboying OoT and contrarian OoT fans became snoys.

No actual Nintendo fan unironically believes a 1998 N64 game is more significant than BoTW.

>>718506779
>you're a toddler if you care about games instead of consuming product and moving on to the next product!!!
Thanks, Tik Tok.
>>718506792
Is that why everything between the tutorial and killing ganon is a meaningless waste of time?

>>718507074
Caring about games doesn't cause you to compulsively 100% them and then complain about having done so.

>>718504850
I do think there is a certain psychological component to it.
In shooters you aren't replacing most weapons whenever they run out of ammo since, at least for the more common ones, refills are plentiful and you may get to keep your favorite weapon for extended periods of time.
In BotW you just get an extra copy of the weapon, so even if you have a bunch of the same weapon you're still gonna lose the one you've used no matter what.
While this ensures you're always playing at max efficiency when it comes to resources, it does make the weapons feel a little less personal.

>>718507003
>a sword is a gun!
See what I mean?
>>718507032
None of the nu-zelda shills are zelda fans. See: them thinking zelda on the NES was this epic sandboxy open world game where you can go everywhere and do anything.

>>718506543
>Enemies drop enough ammo to kill 0.8 enemies
>Acceptable game design

>>718507285
You shoot the gun until it's out of juice, then you pick up a different loaded gun. See what I mean

>>718507285
It's a video game retard, as far as pure gameplay mechanics are concerned there is no reason why you should be ok with gun ammo but have a problem with sword ammo.
This is a game design discussion, not a "how well does the game adhere to real world logic" discussion.

>>718507285
Botw and Totk were a much needed return to form, you would know that if you experienced them in their day.

>>718507280
Maybe, I've always looked at the type of weapon I had and not just the current iteration I wielded when I played favorites with them. Like a fire sword I would use to run through a cold environment. When I broke it I looked at the next one I got as if it was the same one, and I had just received ammo to use it again.

>>718507346
>have weapons at your disposal that have infinite ammo
Just use them

>we are unironically at the point of calling OoT a Sony game
I cannot stress enough how much this entire faggot fucking board needs to be fumigated.

just make link or the talking fairy companion a fucking blacksmith already.

>>718506072
>>718507285
ToTK and BoTW are the fully realized evolution of the original Zelda concept. The "OoT formula" was defined solely by oudated technical limitations. Further proof that OoTsnoys don't actually know anything about Zelda and exist just to seethe at the Switch's success.

>>718508490
>let me keep crying over being outed as a snoy instead of refuting a single point

>>718508490
Let's start with you, Eric.

>can throw infinite bombs at mobs
>can use physics to kill mobs
>can shock a mob to take its weapon and kill it with its own weapon
>bows have high durability compared to melee weapons
How do you run out of weapons unless you are shit at games?

>>718508640
>look at all this superficial bullshit!
Yawn. Die.

>>718497032 (OP)
The Kingdom of Hyrule made a bid for weapons production and the winner was Medigoron, for being the cheap fuck he is, and Biggoron had another fucking conjunctivitis.
When they noticed swords were made out of Chinesium, it was already too late and Nintendo suit-dressed guys were in their asses demanding the release of the 1st game on schedule.
For the 2nd game, they noticed they can be as cheap as they want that people will call it a feature.

I didn't even care about the degradation, other than it's blatantly unbalanced and ultimately pointless. What I hated is that there's nothing in the game even worth breaking your weapons on. All the enemies/bosses are boring as fuck and none of Link's attacks are fun, if that makes sense? The weapon types all have really dull movesets, bullet time was a stupid addition, and the Sage Powers were gayer than Witcher Signs.
Just a really goddamn boring and motivationless experience, even storywise. I legitimately could not give less fucks about Zelda or Hyrule as a whole, they're so emotionally destitute.

>>718508445
>Using a pair of scissors to cut your lawn

>>718507412
A sword
is not
a gun
Retard.
>>718507582
See what I mean? No counterarguments.
>>718507594
>>718508640
>nu-zelda bots start spamming the same shit as usual when called out
Yawn.

>>718509162
How do you shock a mob without a weapon?

>>718497032 (OP)
it gives children a constant stream of tiny dopamine hits when they kill something or open a chest that contains a copy of the weapon they're about to break

>>718498061
because you NEED to try a reskinned version of the same weapons you've been playing with all game

>>718510034
You carry a shock weapon that you use once to shock the enemy and then kill it with its own weapon. You can do this to 10+ enemies before the shock weapon breaks

>>718503413
>>718503592
Samefaggot. Swords do not consume ammunition the same way guns do. Guns fire a limited number of projectiles stored in the magazines. The gun is a medium for projectile to reach its target. Swords are thematically and fundamentally different from firearms. A sword can be valued based on its reliability while a gun is more likely to be valued based on its convenience in the moment

>>718509720
Again, you're unable to look at things as video game mechanics.
As far as a video game is concerned, what is the difference between a gun in a shooter and a sword in a fantasy adventure game?
Both are your primary method of attack, so why is it ok for the gun to be a limited resource but not the sword?
Keep in mind that in the real world swords break just as easily as they do in Zelda.

>>718509289
>>718509720
>best selling Zelda games ever
>B-B-BUT OOT WAS BETTER!
8 more years, snoy.

>>718509631
The lack of any forward momentum on your swings makes combat feel like absolute ass.

>>718509162
this nigga never played master mode

>>718497349
nah

>>718497032 (OP)
the game is at its best when combat is a sloppy jackie-chan style
>oh shit, my weapon broke, grab whatever random weapon you've got and keep the fight going!
but in practice, to generate this emotion semi-regularly, you gotta nerf weapon durability into the dirt.

It's an unresolvable problem because it's a tradeoff between
>having your weapon break at an inopportune moment sucks
but
>going jackie chan mode feels really fucking cool

>>718498061
the game would've benefited from a "relaxed" or easy mode where weapon durability is long for this kind of player, but it's a critical part of the balance as-is.

>>718510537
>sales=gud
Ok so all the yearly CoD and FIFA games are truly masterpieces then.

>>718510357
and what do you do when it breaks

>>718507285
>None of the nu-zelda shills are zelda fans

There is no nu-Zelda. I was been playing Zelda while your daddy was jerking off to Kelly Le Brock.

>>718510357
Good luck finding 10 enemies that have weapons durable enough to kill them with, as soon as silver mobs start spawning that shit becomes almost impossible without relying on sneak attacks and stacking damage buffs.

>>718497032 (OP)
Normally I hate weapon durability but BotW and TotK are about the only examples of the concept done right.

>>718511279
(You)

>>718507285
"nu-Zelda" fans are veteran Zelda fans that didn't betray Nintendo in the end like OoTfaggots did.

>>718511279
it works better in totk with combinations making weapons last longer and do more than 1/40th of a moblins health per hit
i also like when weapons break they do more damage and knock things on their ass
but id still prefer a n64-wii style zelda game every once in awhile

>>718511426
Right back at you, snoy.

>>718510371
Swords get dull and bent when you smack things with it

>>718511524
>nobody don't betray my heckin favorite megacorp!
Your post is gayer than gay sex. You are sincerely something that can only be called less than human.

>>718510371
You did not address the point whatsoever. You could say instead that there should be a whetstone or some way of repairing your swords etc.

>>718510371
and then your 100 dollar walmart shotugn explodes and blows off your fingers
because ammo is all that matters

As usual OP and most people in his threads are stupid faggots.
I just replaced totk and I had to throw fucking weapons away because they werent breaking fast enough, Even when you stupid fuckwits get catered to you cant shut the fuck up.

If zoomers like you retards played the first halo game, goldeneye, quake, etc, youd bitch endlessly about how the rocket only has four shots before you need a new weapon. You have the mental elasticity of a fucking protozoa

>>718510850
Use all the other weapons you have and pick up a shock weapon from somewhere later

>>718512037
Oh shut the fuck up, Eric.

>>718511141
>why can't I be a retard and rush at mobs spamming attack
Play one of the zelda musou games if you want that

>>718497032 (OP)
Hi, my name is Eric. I just want to say: I dislike both of these games

>>718512096
Swords do not require ammunition

>>718497032 (OP)
Eric thread.

>>718512096
So you would prefer having to go back to town to sharpen your weapons constantly?

>>718512771
Hi Eric, I'm stuff.

>>718513112
Yeah actually

>>718511708
nah it's worse in totk because the weapons are by and large meaningless and samey

finding an elemental sword was cool in botw but in totk, the elemental sword is already in your materials pouch and all you're doing is just collecting handles to put it on

botw was never good at this but totk is even worse in that almost every single activity has no worthwhile rewards. there is no point opening a chest, a royal halberd and a knight's halberds are the same handles to put a lynel horn on and most of the time you get completely worthless shields and bows that you'll put back because your inventory is already full for the 50th time

once in a while, the handles do something different like a boomerang or an eightfold longblade, but they in no way justify how trash 90% of the fuse system is (on top of the shit ui)

>>718512981
No but they require maintenance.
>>718513112
Nope. You could have a witcher 3 or dark souls system. If you don't take care of them, then they would break.

>>718513196
to be fair, that's how you do it in totk

the 'town' is death mountain and the 'smithy' is rock octoroks

OoTfags are a literal cult. Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is a bizarre thing.

>>718513112
Not him, but yes. But only if the game was actually balanced for survival, which it's not, so it's pointless. Same as TW3.
Why bother adding in a mechanic that serves no purpose and adds no fun factor? Screams lazy development. It's almost as if nobody on the dev team even play video games.

>>718512691
Nah

>>718513279
>No but they require maintenance.
This isn't in the games either
It's a looter shooter with swords

>>718513509
I hate all 3D Zeldas.

>>718513592
Indeed, I don't think the game's implementation is ideal.

>>718512756
>I can't engage this enemy because it wastes my precious resources
>I can't engage this enemy because it wastes my precious resources
>I can't engage this enemy because it wastes my precious resources
>I can't engage this enemy because it wastes my precious resources
Just ignore 90% of the games content or you are playing it wrong is a laughable cope even Nintendo conceeded that it was a problem that needed adressing TotK didn't suffer the same durability issue that BotW had.

>>718512756
I would have agreed but I just finished the musou games and was surprised you actually had to try starting about halfway through when they suddenly ramp up in difficulty.

>>718504256
All my weapon slots are filled with good weapons

>>718497032 (OP)
tears of the kingdom made it better, now you dont have to skip bokoblin camps and you dont come out with POS weapons. kill a camp, pick up rotted sword, attach a moblin horn, bam powerful enough weapon. i poached all of ganon's bokoblggers and mobliggers and hiluxiggers and lyneliggers and gohmigger and whatever crossed my path. I USE THEIR CORPSES TO SAVE ZELDA SO I CAN BRING HER HOME AND FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF HER

>>718513803
Fucking based, though I also like botw/totk because they feel like the first game, which is my favourite.

>>718514695
>I can't engage this enemy because it wastes my precious resources
This is something only literal retards say. Every single mob you kill is another weapon they drop and you can take, if you've managed so somehow fuck that up, you have four runes to abuse, one of which is literally a grenade.
If it helps you visualize, heres literally what you are saying:
>I only have three hearts, I cant possibly play the game because it means I am at risk of losing, so I choose to not engage at all
>quake is literally impossible to play because I used up my ammo being shit and im not brave enough to grab more.

How you tried not being emotionally attached to literally every random digital shit that gets taken? Nintendo already called you the fuck out for this collectors mental illness by revealing korok seeds to be literal polished turds, and you still dont get it.

>>718515982
>Daddy Nintendo says you're bad!

>can make a mecha with a flamethrower cock and shoulder mounted cannons
b-b-b-but my stick breaaaaaaaaks WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>718507412
>Then you pick up a different gun
Nope. You switch to another one until you reach the shop or an ammo stash, which refills all your guns. You would never drop the magnum that one shots most enemies for a shitty glock that needs 2 whole magazines to kill the standard mob.

>>718515982
>Every single mob you kill is another weapon they drop and you can take
Then what's the point of durability?

>>718512506
and if youre in an area where shock weapons dont spawn and you already used all the weapons you picked up?

>>718516376
Sounds peak "reddit cool" to me.

>>718516453
so you dont just keep the most powerful weapons and rely on them forever. mixing up the gameplay, by potentially having you get screwed with nothing, is a good thing

>>718516249
OoTfags aren't beating the snoy allegations

Eight years. Eight goddamn years and you still complain about weapon durability. Why? What? You guys gonna cry about air dashing in Zoom Eternal again? Or whine all over about those shitty ashes in Elden Ring? Jesus...

>>718516497
charge up a spin and hurl a lightning bolt

>>718516798
Who said anything about OOT?

>>718516420
I roll with needler & assault rifle mostly, but I'm willing to switch them out for shotguns and pistols as needed.

>>718516789
I don't use powerful weapons.

>>718514695
Totk lets you craft weapons using items enemies drop.

They gave you a way to repair weapons in TotK.

>>718509720
>water is not wet!
You didn't experience Zelda on NES during its hay day.

>>718512450
What did you replace Totk with?

>>718510371
>Swords are thematically and fundamentally different from firearms.
Not in Zelda, where even the bows are used up.

>>718516789
That would be fine if the weapon economy was balanced but it isn't if I offered you a deal where you give me 3 dollars and I give you 2 back would you take me up on it? of course not but that is basically every mob encounter past blue in BotW.

>>718497032 (OP)
So they can """reward""" you with more paper mache weapons that will break in the very next encounter then rinse and repeat.

>>718516453
>>718518061
Nigger by that logic what is the point in playing a game you stupid fuck
>you pay me 60 dollars
>you pay the power company
>you pay for a tv
>you pay for rent
>you get: time wasted
WOW, WHAT A DEAL, IM SO GLAD I VIEW EVERYTHING AS A PURE GROWTH TRANSACTIONS

>>718516882
Nu-Zelda's weapon durability must be pretty damn shit to still be a point of contention 8 years later. Ever think about that?

>>718516789
>>718517157
???
Anything? I get l punished if I use "powerful" weapons, I get punished if I don't. Why even approach any mob ever? Which leads into my next question: When is there any potential context for "getting screwed"? You can outwalk any mob or individual enemy. There is virtually zero gatekeeping in the game. Combat is almost entirely optional, and the instances where it isn't, I.E. the boss fights, are all balanced for mid-range equipment you can find randomly, nevermind the Master Sword.
So... what exactly is the point of this mechanic again? If Hyrule were some crazy survivalist shit and traveling was genuinely dangerous and difficult (like the lore/story implies it should be) that would be one thing, but it isn't. Post-Calamity Hyrule is Sesame Street. Oscar The Grouch has more edge than any of the monsters. It's like playing an offline MMO, which makes sense when you consider Monolith Soft's involvement in the world design, because that's their specialty. Hell, it's the ONLY thing they do.

>>718518976
Is inventory management the game?

>>718518976
>Nigger by that logic what is the point in playing a game you stupid fuck
Yes that is the entire fucking gripe with the durability mechanic you retard why bother fighting anything because everything is a sunk cost, congratulations on finally getting up to speed.

>>718517617
It exists in Botw, they added an additional way to add modifiers to weapons in Totk.

>>718519640
You absolute mong, I'm asking you what is the point in playing ANY game at all, using your garbage fucking logic.

>>718519571
If it were then Botw and Totk are peak. Allowing you to assign favorites and sort them for access in a quick select menu.

>>718519847
Fun mechanics.

>>718504256
>use the lesser weapons on weaker enemies
this concept is fun when the limiting factor is ammunition, not durability.

>>718519640
>it's bad design because I cannot have the cake and eat the cake too
playing the worlds smallest violin for you buddy

>>718519386
So what is your complaint exactly? I dont get it. You can fight, you can evade, so what exactly are you complaining about.

>>718497032 (OP)
It adds artificial tension and variety to the boring ass combat.
>ZOMG MY GERUDO SABER IS GONNA BREAK! I BETTER THINK FAST!
>*switches to one of nine weapons that are exactly the same, perform the same and are only differentiated by name, damage and durability*
>Whew! That was close! What an intense battle!

Man I hope Okami 2 and Darksiders 4 stick to their Zelda inspired roots and give me what Nintendo has stopped giving me for over a decade now. There is so much free real estate for that type of game now that the series that held the monopoly on it decided to become a new ip entirely.

>>718520017
it's not some great tragedy that he doesnt like playing breath of the wild dude. unless you're a nintendie and this is really world historical for you

>>718519940
ironic

>>718506792
>OOTsnoy

>>718518061
If this analogy were accurate it would be like
-you start with a million dollars
-you can spend a few grand on something
-that something will get you at least a few grand of value back
-you still have like a million dollars whether you buy or not

>>718512450
>oud bitch endlessly about how the rocket only has four shots before you need a new weapon.
What part of "swords aren't guns" don't you understand, old man? They work completely differently. A gun has to carry a limited number of projectiles in its magazine. This is usually a tradeoff between different factors and drawbacks. Because most guns have to be portable, they will not carry an impractical amount of ammunition. Mounted firearms are the exception. This is consistent with both real-world and game logic, so it's a false equivalency on your part, retarded faggot. The only comparable fantasy weapons are bows and magic. But the difference between these and melee weapons in BOTW is that you can still use the former once you find the requisite ammo. BOTW weapons just break with no way to maintain or repair them

>>718520228
liking Botw is a litmus test for how high of an iq someone has, how much neuroplasticity is still left in their gray matter. you can tell people who are down on the game are challenged.

>>718506792
Hi Ericfag!

>>718519940
For what it's worth, Borderlands is an example of a game that does this. You have four weapons on rotation, do you use your world-ending nigger-obliterator with limited munitions on a bog-standard mob of psychos? No. But you can if a random spawn generates an upscaled/rare enemy, and after you're done? You still have it, you just need to resupply, and might end up having to restart the "level" if you reach the end and can't defeat the boss or didn't enough ammo spawns. Hell, depending on the difficulty you may not even have enough ammo period and need to upgrade your stock or actually farm better gear to progress.
None of that exists in BotW or TotK.
Can't believe I'm using fucking Borderlands as a positive example for game design. Randy save us.

i'm sure there's some good proper and mechanically refined way to use the weapon durability system in BotW but the game world and art direction are so garish, uninspired, and pozzed that the juice just isnt worth the squeeze

>>718520197
I dont, I hope we get a full on survival sim Zelda with zero dungeons. Sacred cows need killin

>>718520545
least delusional tendie

>>718520153
If you knew what you were talking about it would be
>gee wiz my gay saber is gonna break
>aim it at the enemies head and throw it
>does a critical for 4x as much damage output
>stuns and disarms the enemy

>>718497032 (OP)
Because they keep giving you new ones.

>>718520129
If I choose to fight, there's no positive reinforcement. It's self-ordained punishment.
IN THEORY the fight itself would be the reward, but Zelda's combat has sucked cucco balls for 20 years now, so that's arguably a larger issue. But adding in gimmick mechanics instead of dedicating time to the core mechanics is even more frustrating.

>>718520535
dumb

>>718520643
In borderlands you have to unload clip after clip of ammo into enemies for minutes at a time. In botw you can hit an enemy once and push them off a cliff.

>>718520535
>playing scifi game
>theres ammo despite no magazines
>throw the game away because its shit and unrealistic
enlightened beings like you and I know weapons dont break, steel is folded one gorillion times and without imperfections, so it will never fail.

>>718520643
right, and on the flipside it works in a game like death stranding because you can just craft the gun you like when the one you have breaks or runs out of ammo. having to search and get some peasant pitchfork out of my inventory after breaking my lightsaber is just retarded man.

>>718520545
>"To be fair, you need a very high IQ to understand BotW..."

>>718520731
We already got that twice. Take your meds Aonuma.

>>718520998
If you dont want to fight you dont have to, there's options.

>>718521192
>>theres ammo despite no magazines
Then the weapons likely consume energy, which is still a limited currency smartass. And you can still reuse them once you get more energy

>>718521220
>search
>pitchfork
gitgud

>>718521353
I want to fight.
Let me rephrase that: I want the game to want me to fight.

>>718520731
>sacred cows need killin
So lets start with BotW then

>>718521236
No reason to go back on something this prestigious and refined

>>718506491
Tendies have reached the point in cult development where they genuinely can't deal with any criticism since they're beyond logic, so anyone who disagrees must be dismissed as insane or a bad actor. Thus the explosion of accusing fans of previous Zelda games of secretly being snoys, or outright claiming it's all one schitzo. It's the consolewar equivilent of the evangelicals screaming I WILL NOT LISTEN TO YOU SERVANT OF SATAN when people call out their insanity.

>>718521581
You literally do not want to fight, despite claiming you do.

>>718497032 (OP)
It's supposed to imitate the switch controllers

>>718506792
Switching between a hundred items to fuse to your arrows prevents me from wasting time?

>>718521664
>criticism is just me no likey
mikey mikey he hates it

>>718507032
> No one thinks the highest rated video game of all time, which has consistently topped "best game of all time" lists since it was released, is good. It's all one schitzo!
for the record midna's fat thighs were the only good zelda game

>>718521830
sort your inventory low iq scrub

>>718520998
>If I choose to fight, there's no positive reinforcement.

The joy of slaughter isn't positive reinforcement enough?

>>718521496
i could, but the ugliness of the game and the fact that link has to dress up as a woman as a major gameplay and plot point makes this whole thing seem like a tiresome waste of time, rather than a fun game

>>718520546
>Eric trying to force his own bogeyman for people who call him out

>>718520873
I just saved my nearly broken shit to kill weak enemies.

>>718521925
NTA, but if you're reaching back 30 years to prop up one game in your whataboutisms then you're fucked

the weapon durability system is just one in a long series of retarded design decisions that make botw and totk extremely unappealing to all but sworn tendie soldiers. okay, maybe im using it wrong, but the reward for using it correctly is shit.

>>718521974
>i could,
*doubt*
>>718522059
weapons that will break on the next hit are the strongest in the game

>>718521862
> point of a game is to be fun
> game is not fun
> THAT'S NOT AN OBJECTIVE CRITICISM
You're allowed to say "I enjoyed it and so did lots of other people, you do you" yet you insist on arguing there is no actual person who does not love your game. You are a cultist.

>>718522207
>fun is an objective measure!
holy delusion

>>718522086
I didn't care for ocerina but claiming no one actually liked it and it's just snoys making things up to shit on breath of the wild is delusional

>>718521619
God imagine running up to him and kicking a bunch of snow in his face. Cathartic.

>>718522198
wait a second you really think there's a skill floor to botw dont you

>>718522316
Given that's the entire purpose of a recreational activity, it's the only criticism that matters

>>718522383
Did you admit to using broken weapons on the weak enemies or not?

>>718497032 (OP)
Know what? Fuck it. I normally avoid this discussion because I cannot stomach Zelda fans and how they slobber all over these games.
The weapons break fast to keep you feeling "rewarded" when you pick up the same thing for the hundredth time. These games are designed to waste your time. And they do it very, very well. They keep you "engaged" in a "gameplay loop" where you're just repeating the same things over and over and over again. It's an actual video game skinner box.

I cannot comprehend how people can play these games and find enjoyment. The monotony. The repetition. The blandness of it all. It truly is for the brain dead among us. Which is a staggering number of people considering how popular these shitty games are. The gameplay is Ubisoft tower slop with a splash of boring crafting and mediocre combat bolstered by a decent physics engine.

These games suck. People who play these games are dullards; truly the dumbest among us, right down there with people who buy annual FIFA and Assassin's Slop installations.

>>718497032 (OP)
To motivate use of the games' mechanics.
In BotW the weapons breaking motivates you to explore to find stronger, more durable ones, in TotK it is meant to push you to engage with the Fuse mechanic and use base weapons as handles for horns and gems.

>>718521453
that wasnt your argument you stupid sped, are you schizophrenic?

>>718497349
>scarcity
Said like someone who has not played the games, weapons are anything but scarce, in fact 99 times out of 100 the issue is that you won't have enough inventory space for all the stuff the game throws at you.

>>718522547
i dont even fucking remember because i played this kusoge for all of 40 minutes before i realized i'd already unlocked all of link's capabilities and would be stuck doing janitorial tasks for the rest of the game's runtime. nigga.

>>718522357
Shit, Imagine not being emotionally destroyed because a japanese man made a toy you didnt want.

>>718522752
>in fact 99 times out of 100 the issue is that you won't have enough inventory space for all the stuff the game throws at you
not the W you think it is

>>718522710
Your strawman got torched lil bro

>>718522556
All I'm getting from this post is: My name is Eric and I hate the best videogames ever made, because my dad raped me. Honestly? Get new material, dude.

>>718506259
>BoTW is 8 years old
bros WTF

>>718522790
you must be awful at this game lol

>>718522953
you've got it backwards, Eric likes botw and totk design changes because it shows nintendo is advancing beyond oot which is not as good as everyone thinks. unless you think he's falseflagging? it's a common eric tactic admittedly.

>>718522834
And then stomping on that little shit covered Master Sword figure lol

>>718522919
That's not a counterargument, you whined about how they made the game artificially longer by making weapons scarce, I told you this is absolutely not the case at all as anyone who has played five minutes of either game can attest to, ergo you're wrong and you admit you're wrong by not providing a counterargument, you lose, which means I win, the end.

>>718523081
yeah man i'm sooo bad at breath of the wild. it's sooo hard

>>718523308
i'm not the guy who was arguing it, but the taking artificial plenty as a solution to artificial scarcity is, again, not the W you think it is.

>>718523214
What backwards level of thinking is this? Eric hates any recently released Nintendo game and fanboys over the old ones. Why do you think he Despises the Switch but loves N64/GameCube?

>>718522556
Based. You already have one of these fags calling you Eric too lol. I'll be called a samefag and Eric for this post as well, just watch!

>>718523328
It's a really weird argument to make because the games only get easier the more you play them unless you're deliberately handicapping yourself.
The hardest BotW ever feels is in the beginning. By the time you have some armor upgrades, meals and fairies backed up you start to feel untouchable against all but the strongest enemies.
>>718523742
I'm just ignoring it. That kind of dogshit is exactly why I said I avoid Zelda fans, the fanbase is cooked and has been for years.
Virtually impossible to get decent discussion out of it.

>>718522556
>>718523742
>Eric so mindbroken that he calls himself "based" to his own post
Imagine getting to this point.

>>718499360
Hey, at least they didn't have it fly back to the Deku Tree every time it broke. That was programmed in, and scrapped pretty late.

>>718523846
well that's why i'm not making it. i'm not actually arguing BOTW is hard, (You) are, because you need to believe that I am too dumb to like BOTW, and that's why it "filtered" me.

but i dont think that. i dont think anything in that game is hard. i think a lot of it is dumb, and even when it's done well, "good gameplay" looks bad, carries no real reward, and is tedious to perform.

>let's make a weapon durability mechanic
>but then never allow the player to maintain their equipment so that all they can do once something has broken is discard it
the problem with this is that it turns every combat encounter into a cost benefit analysis. that could be fun and interesting in another type of game (i.e. a survival horror type game where you have to decide if you want to waste resources fighting an enemy for a particular reward or simply avoid combat to conserve what you have for more important fights), but this game is supposed to be an open world combat-centric action game. the end result is that players will fight when they have to but otherwise avoid combat because it's almost never worth engaging in, especially when there are no rewards for doing so, and on top of that they will have to spend some deal of time managing their inventory by looking for new weapons to replace what they have and always making sure they have something that will withstand at least one combat scenario.

it doesn't make sense for this game, especially when you consider that some enemies can be damage sponges that eat weapon durability like a fat kid in a candy store.

>>718524305
I was agreeing with you. I was saying the guy you responded to was making a weird argument.

>>718524432
sry

>>718523880
There it is! Told you haha!

haven't finished TotK in 2 years and there's already new stuff being discovered.

>>718523846
You can unironically find better Zelda discussion on reddit. Nu-/v/ is a containment zone for mentally ill Nintendo bootlickers. Genuinely an unusable board.

>>718523846
>The hardest BotW ever feels is in the beginning
To be honest the only noticeable difficulty jump in BotW was getting accustomed to dealing with electric enemies everything else has a natural very steady progression to it.

>>718523543
NTA, but weapons do not appear to be scarce

>>718512096
>You could say instead that there should be a whetstone or some way of repairing your swords etc.
Yes, this would make for a lore-friendly solution (and give us reason to keep spending rupees later in the game) but the reason we're discussing this to begin with is because of the shitty weapon durability mechanic. The game treats melee weapons like disposable tools whether or not it makes sense to do so. You argued that thick monster hides would logically degrade weapons but obviously the pre-Calamity smiths, especially those in royal employ, would take definitely this into account. The Soldier's Broadsword, with a whopping 14 power, is described in its Hyrule Compendium entry as a "durable blade well-tuned for slaying monsters". This implies it's supposed to be durable by in-universe standards, where humans regularly battle low-level monsters. Its durability stat is 25. Weapons forged for knights and the personal guard are more durable although durability is not mentioned in their entries. Sure, weapons degrade with use, but nowhere near as fast as the exaggerated rate in BOTW. If the rest of the game world were forced to deal with this, no country could field a decent army. Every weapon would break within the first 10 minutes of use. They wouldn't be prestigious artifacts but simply tools that are useful for a short while, so there's little reason to care about each individual weapon. They manage to be even more worthless than guns in a shooter because degradation is permament and irreversible. You even have to buy new champion weapons instead of repairing them. This in a series with a legendary recurring weapon typically used to destroy the big bad. Link. Zelda, and Hyrule are constantly changing through the ages but there's always a Master Sword tying your adventures together. There simply isn't an equivalent in the vast majority of shooters. Guns just don't carry the same weight no matter how useful or powerful they are

>>718524305
you are too dumb to appreciate Botw, it's why your focused on weapon durability a complete nonissue

>>718524362
>why can't I continue to use the ammo I used

>>718526306
what would keeping the same weapon you picked up hours into the game add to the game

>>718526607
Fun

>>718526607
this question asked of a Zelda game reveals the absurdity of what nintendo actually settled on to implement for botw

>>718497032 (OP)
no fun allowed

>>718526607
>>718526785
lmfao tendies man, can't live with em, can't kill em. so true. tendies get so wrapped up in their technical argument for why you're legally forced to like their games that they miss the essential factor which is that nintendo has not published a fun game outside mario kart 8 for nigh-on 25 years now.

>>718497032 (OP)
No idea but I am about 90% done replaying BotW and it just makes me skip combat 99% of the time unless it's a boss.

>>718526785
objectively fun would not be added
>>718526891
you know what's fun? crafting your own megaton hammer

>>718527063
and dont you forget it, if you dislike Zelda I will sue you for your backlog's worth

>>718523929
If it was like the shield and had a gorgillion health I wouldn't have minded

>>718526497
>why can't I stop being so disingenuous and recognize that there's a meaningful distinction between a physical weapon and bullets
whether you're using 9mm shells or motherfucking HEAT shells, you're using something that was designed to be expended upon use, as a projectile. swords, warhammers, various types of staff, etc. are made with longevity in mind. that is not to say that they do not break, but they can be maintained and thus their life extended. therefore you are a retard pushing a false equivalency.

if botw allowed players to use a magic spell, a whetstone, visit a blacksmith, or some means by which they could restore a weapon's durability, then it could be argued that at the very least the aforementioned cost-benefit analysis could be mitigated by the player, and thus eliminate the equipment consuming penalty that is innate to all combat encounters.

oh but you're just going to tell me to spend all of time time collecting korok seeds so I can have 300 fucking inventory slots so I can then have 300 weapons I'm lugging around in link's asshole. well I won't. it's dumb and I won't do it. nor will I take photographs and fill up an entire photo album of entries. I just don't care that much. that's gameplay for little girls and soccer moms.

>>718497032 (OP)
>Hunting lynels
>One lynel club is almost exactly 1 white lynel kill with berserk set bonus
>The other weapons don't even take them to halfway
The biggest problem is just how much stronger two handed weapons are. Spears are SHIT outside of hitless meme shit

>>718527289
There's no distinction in Zelda, it's all ammo. Do continue to type up meaningless walls of text.

>>718527519
there is a distinction you're just retarded.

>>718527176
>I will sue you for your backlog's worth
A snoy has three games, the backlog consists at best two games, one of which is concord and thus literally worthless.

I wish Zelda games were good again. It's been nearly 20 years.

>>718527519
You can reload ammo stupid
Same way you can replenish mana or find/buy new arrows. These are the only valid weapon comparisons

>>718527289
>>718527567
>cant tell the difference between function and presentation
Oh so youre the guy who cant tell the difference between switches, keys, and key items.

>>718527092
not with a banjo kazooie nuts and bolts builder thingamajig it isn't. besides - id rather just find the hammer once in a dungeon and move on, i'm not really trying to work on a garrysmod contraption, when i boot up zelda you know, i'm trying to have fun instead.

>>718527862
make sense or fuck off.

>>718497032 (OP)
Its a stupid gimmick they introduced to force players to "le explore" but the exploration is you going out clearing the same camp over and over for the exact same rewards over and over.
Amazing exploration fellas

>>718527651
Link between worlds want that long ago

>>718499263
This. Plus if you get a particularly strong weapon there's no sense to use it since it'll break so you save it for an occasion that never arrives. Better game design would've been to make weapons that break repairable

>>718527913
>he admits he doesnt understand the difference
Wow, that was a quick concession.

>>718528075
shut up moron. last (You).

>>718497349
God you sound like such a normalnigger I hope you die

>>718497032 (OP)
I think of it as the opposite of what normally happens with inventory hoarding. You save up all those rare potions and items for when you need them but never use them right? Well in BotW I had to break that habit and just use all my best, coolest weapons right away, because I'll just find another one a few minutes later. It was a creative change but TotK made it much more tolerable.

>>718510617
This is also why combat shrines that take all your shit are the best
>Imma ambush this group and kill that guy first
>Oh shit that guy next to him has a strong weapon
>Chuck weapon at him so he staggers and drops his weapon
>Pick it up and spin to win
Overworked encounters are boring as shit for pretty much the opposite of this reason. You are always going to have a stronger weapon that what moblins are using unless you are killing every pack you see (which is pointless gameplay wise)

>>718528012
Fair. I forget about A Link to the Past 2 too often.
Might be time for a replay.

It's fucking stupid. I had a plastic sword that I got from Medieval Times when I was a kid. I used to smash it on trees, on the ground, and it still never broke. The idea of sword crafted by a blacksmith breaking that easily is beyond retarded and that blacksmith would be hanged.

>>718528136
Gotteeeeem

>>718522556
All I'm saying is I spent hours using stasis to surf on flying trees. It's a good game for fucking around.

>>718528576
I replayed it not horribly long ago. It's still very good

>>718528983
I was so assmad they took away stasis for rewinding time in TotK. Yeah yeah whatever flying machines and the new rito power is great FUCK YOU LET ME LAUNCH MYSELF

>>718510617
>>718528548
>the game is at its best when combat is a sloppy jackie-chan style
I apologize the whole time and try to protect nearby koroks.
I really cant figure how people hate the mechanic unless they are literally not smart enough to think on their feet and too african to plan ahead, My first thought when people bitch is literally "Oh, he's low IQ"
like >>718528548 said if you dont have a cache you need to approach the camp intelligently, if you do have a cache then you can go balls out but you need to always be ready for when shit surprises you.

Something I noticed with totk was that they seemed to really want you to use bows in combat, and that could be coincidence, but it could also be a response to player data showing retards not actually understanding the threat, DSP facetanking an encounter, and then blaming the game for "being impossible" or "cheating" because his stick broke after trying to kill a talus with it.

>>718528793
>stupid negro with no concept of time lies about a plastic sword to make a point about 100 year old unmaintained weapons breaking in a post apocalypse game featuring fairies, magic, and forest spirits that play maracas filled with tiny plant poo.

>>718527913
kek, holy self own

>>718527814
You gotta find the bow too

>>718529291
There are multiple ways to imitate it, the most obvious is the zonai spring, I actually like the rewind a lot better because you can do really cool shit in combat with it.

>>718527879
>id rather just find the hammer once
several games are like that

>>718528065
yeah no reason to use the masterball if you ignore the reason to use it

>>718529291
Some kind of missile powered catapult maybe?

>>718529291
launch whatever you want with zonai

>>718529745
this dude had his lips surgically stitched to aonuma's asshole

>>718529745
BotW gives fuck all for arrows. Even cleaning places out of arrows you end up with very little and it eats cash like crazy. They over corrected in TotK giving you way more more often and buffed bow damage while also making quick time use less stamina

>>718530350
NTA, but I guess if one enjoys a game they must be some kind of homosexual super fan

>>718530321
>>718530303
>>718530071
Launching off trees was both easier more simple and more fun. Even with the auto build shit it was a resource dump and took longer than spinning a couple of times on a rock

>>718530440
oh well, play Botw and launch your trees. I've noticed that everyone's arguments ITT boil down to single individual nitpicks about a game, and wishing all the games were like other games.

i don't remember where i left off after not playing for two years. i still collect amiibos, but....at this point it's kind of minimal.

>>718530518
Duh it's just preference. TotK legitimates gives you too many tools and many are so strong they overpower the sandbox

>>718530365
>he didn't farm dragon horns

>>718529745
58 IQ zoomoids be like yoooo dis combat be fire

>>718497349
They hated him because he told the truth. Really though outside of wasting your time there was no engaging or fun aspect of weapons breaking every few mobs. Without the infinite durability mod this game was unplayable.

>>718530702
Farming horns is aids without guidefagging and even return it the bigger problem is availability

>>718529745
>blue and black bokos
normal mode shitter

>>718497032 (OP)
For fun purposes. If you want to know the lore reasons, in Breath it's because they're all old or shoddy monster made weapons. In Tears all the weapons were decayed by Ganon's attack that he had been charging up for quintillions of years to break the master sword.

>>718531084
>If you want to know the lore reasons, in Breath it's because they're all old or shoddy monster made weapons
No they aren't, fucking retard.

>>718530778
>>718530350
>>718530975
>>718531051
>>718531171

That post obviously hit a nerve ;)
You lost and got raped;;;; Eric

>>718531084
The Sword of Goujian was found in great condition after 2,000 years. The Great Calamity happened 100 years before the game. Well-preserved swords last way longer than you'd think, and most weapons are stored in treasure chests. A century is irrelevant to the life of a sword, and there are still living smiths associated with the Zora, Goron, Rito, and Gerudo races. They can replace destroyed champion's weapons, and the Gerudo, Goron, and Zora are frequently seen wielding weapons for work and protection. You're wrong about pretty much everything.

>>718530634
That's the problem with "player choice"
Devs have to nerf your tools instead of just hiding them behind progression

>>718523929
The fact that was even considered makes me hate these new devs even more. Holy fuck.

>>718528012
A Link Between Worlds started the whole de-Zeldafying Zelda bullshit with the item rental system. Fuck that game.

>>718529745
there are actually people impressed by this gameplay lol.

botw tards dont get how embarrassing these clips are. like, it's not only that your gay inventory system isn't fun. it's also that when you put in the effort to master it your gameplay still looks gay and retarded, like your clip does.

>>718530130
and they're better and more fun

>>718532863
>Well-preserved swords last way longer than you'd think, and most weapons are stored in treasure chests
what about one that lasts about the entire duration of the game. do they have one like that in one of the chests?

>>718497032 (OP)
It's because there's fuck-all meaningful rewards in this game but they still need stuff to spread around to justify the "exploration". What better than weapons which only have four movesets and break in 2 minutes.

>>718536031
I'll bite. What gameplay impresses you?

>>718534461
>>718535565
>>718535789
>>718536031

totally not obvious slow bumping, tranny OP.
Samefagging won't save you.
And funny how much that post made you seethe ;)

>>718536308
>

>>718527519
treating LINK'S SWORD as disposable ammunition is GAY AND POZZED, just like this game, that forces the player to DISGUISE LINK AS A WOMAN LMFAO.

>>718529745
>tendie homunculi think that gameplay was worth clipping
Genuinely embarrassing lmao

>>718536406
It's ok to believe that

>>718497032 (OP)
I can't believe you're so autistic that you're still bitching about this. Go play Assassin's Creed Shadows then, weapons don't break there faggot

>>718536310
anything, even some guy just rocket launchering around a doom wad, looks better than this crayola shit

>>718530365
I think you are misremembering, I replayed them both back to back recently and totk I was constantly running out of arrows and botw I had a ton and nothing to use them on.

>>718530350
>>718530778
>>718531051
>>718536031
I have never failed to get seethe out of that webm, whats even better is that its been around for ages but newfags keep pretending like I fucking made it just for whatever thread its posted in.
The absolute best part though is that everyone one of you would fail to clear that same camp without crying about your weapons breaking.

>>718536406
>>718536408
>>718536608

Seems like that post dilated your ass ;)

>>718510617
>the Jackie Chan analogy
That's a good way to put it

>>718536406
How embarrassing that this anon doesnt know why link shoots his sword in the first game.
You were one mandela effect away from living with 40 years of sword ammunition in zelda.

eric's melting down again...

>>718537030
which one is eric again?? is he the pro- or anti-botw schizo?

>>718537071
this guy >>718536408

>ericericericericeric
/v/ should have stayed dead

>>718537213
don't worry, "eric" doesn't even exist and it's just some schizo's imaginary friend/foe

>>718537213
>>718537305
You sound upset you got found out ;)

Why are nu-Zelda fans so sensitive?

>>718537647
>>718537661
see >>718537425

>>718527519
>play Ultimate Doom
>pick up gun
>get to keep gun even if all ammo is expended
>can find more ammo to replenish gun
>play BotW
>pick up weapon
>weapon breaks and it disappears
>no way to repair or restore weapon
"muh ammo" faggots are retarded

>>718537810
see >>718537736

>>718497032 (OP)
I think the devs were expecting players to throw weapons at enemies way, way more often than they actually do.

I'm constantly struggling to maintain my weapon stock because I have too many good weapons to use when it matters.
Boss fights become spin-to-win with two-handers and spears are just a safe option to deal with most smaller enemies if you're not confident with parries or flurry rushes.

>>718537425
I'm upset that a drunk semi driver hasn't plowed through your house leaving your splattered remains to join the years of dried cum all over your Gerudo Link posters. Not like you ever leave your fucking house, so all I can hope is that sweet 18 wheeled angel somehow finds its way to you.

>>718536308
>What better than weapons which only have four movesets and break in 2 minutes.
How about anything actually worth exploring?
I tried to go near the volcano only to get blocked by a strong wind/invisible wall. It was then that I realized I hated the Divine Beasts. Would rather have entered the volcano than another copy-pasted interior

Just use the MsgNotFound sword, you fucking casuals.
Fuse a Molduga Jaw to it and voila, you have an unbreakable weapon for the whole game.

>>718537943
Yeah the system is the worst of both worlds. Early game you're weapon starved and mid-late game you're weapon stuffed.
This is why in other games durability is either short-term or long-term. Either you pick up a weapon off the ground and use it then and there to get a bit of extra damage in (like in a lot of action games), or you maintain the weapon over the long term (like in some RPGs).
BotW wants to have it both ways and fucks up the design as a result.
Given the game's obsession with padding the long-term approach would have been a lot better. Let people find a weapon they like and upgrade and repair it to their heart's content. Embrace the RPG elements.

>>718538047
>>718538073
>>718538187
You lost ;)
Your deranged tranny seethe doesn't effect me, you dilated troon.

>>718498061
Why can't you just noclip through everything if you want to?

>>718538073
By "what better" I mean from a filler perspective.
Infinitely copypastable yet inherently finite.

>>718497349
Tendies fucking seething lmao
Then again tendies sucked of tears of the $70 dlc

>>718538292
>>718538047
mental illness.

>>718538047
Based. Tendies honestly should get killed. I say that in a non joking manner.

>>718538047
>18 wheeled angel somehow finds its way to you
What absolute poorfag shithole neighborhood do you live in that allows 18 wheelers anywhere near a residential street?

>>718538573
Why are snoys so mentally ill?

>>718538758
>allow
Are you retarded? I am sure all those Muslims running over euros were allowed to do it. Afterall if they weren't they simply couldn't do it

>>718538906
Just like you allowed yourself to be raped? ;)

>>718497032 (OP)
Because the weapons are meaningless and the games are bad

>>718539058
see >>718539052

>>718539058
Don’t let the tendies hear you say that or they’ll spend the next eight years seething at you for defying their friends at Nintendo.

>>718539231
You always use the same buzzwords, snoyric.
Not exactly subtle.

I know you faggots don't actually want to talk about ways to improve the game but I think this is a good idea: https://youtu.be/MGacJlH96_I?si=nMVjn1ZAHyv6x8Lt&t=1278
he talks at length so I'll summarize for you:
>design goal would be to force players to switch weapons in real time while engaging the enemy
>this is achieved by having two inventories, one for loot and one for currently equipped weapons
>you get two slots per each type (1 handed, 2 handed, off-hand, utility) for a total of 8 slots at the start; each slot could be expanded to a maximum of 5
>the master sword would be unique and take up its own slot, so by end game you'd have 20 slots.
>you assign active weapons per type to each slot
>when your weapon in slot one breaks, it automatically switches to the weapon in slot two for that category of weapon
>when they're both exhausted, now you have to switch to a different weapon type, or enter your menu to switch out new weapons for those exhausted ones
>important: weapons don't break, instead they just become inaccessible, and once you're out of combat, you can use junk weapons that enemies drop to replenish the durability of the weapons you've used up
>in order to avoid constant menu jumping and inventory management, you can stand next to a weapon and when the prompt to pick it up appears, you can hold the button down to auto-break it instead of adding it to your inventory, and then apply its restorative effects to applicable weapons (i.e. you see a rusty straight sword; you can use it to replenish the durability of your primary 1 handed weapon)
>only when your favored weapon is fully repaired can you use it again
this way, there is a repair system implemented, and you can repair on the fly without having to constantly fuck around in menus, and now you still have to cycle between weapons during a fight. not bad, but I just know that tendies are retarded and don't actually want to talk solutions.

>>718539231
Is it ok if I like a Nintendo game or are you going to cry for another 10 years?

>>718540039
see >>718539341

>>718538276
I might be asking too much of an underpowered handheld though. Maybe in 10 years

>>718540039
Works on my machine

>>718540227
see >>718540204

>>718540227
The problem wasn't the hardware (well it was but in other ways) it was how they chose to design the game and what they spent dev time on.

>>718540106
Theres no talking sense into you tendies. God willing you won’t live for another 10 years.

>Boy I sure love going on a a glorified scavenger hunt for korok seeds and shrines
>Boy I sure love seeing the same copy paste enemies over and over
>Boy I sure love the shit boss fights
>Boy I sure love going into my inventory a million times
>Boy I sure love the shitty voice acting
>Boy I sure love the muddy green graphics
>Boy I sure love the complete lack of a story

>>718540395
I'll bite. What game should I like instead?

>>718540275
don't worry I'll be posting it again and again in every thread you make on this topic for the foreseeable future until you reply with an adequate and well thought out response, and every time that you see it and ignore it, it's going to shave 0.10 seconds off your mother's life. and if she's already dead, then it applies to anyone to whom you're close and consider family. and if you're some schizo retard in the woods who subsists on poisonous mushrooms and dogshit, then well I don't need to really curse you anymore because god damn you must already be miserable.

>>718497032 (OP)
>drop into the game
>run around until you find unkilable monster
>spam bomb for 15 minute
>have op weapon killing everything in one shot everything
>weapon stock full forever

>>718540395
>>718540414
>>718540498
Why are snoys so mentally ill?

>>718540498
I'll survive

>>718540549
>>718540606
>dogshit eating schizos don't have feelings of empathy for their kin
sad!

>>718540791
>more schizo ramblings
Why are snoys so mentally ill?

>>718540791
Or maybe, just maybe, I'm white and don't fall for superstitious playground trolling.

>>718540414
The scavenger hunts and puzzles are by far the best part about the game

>>718540039
>plague of goon
Yeah sorry, his dark souls stuff was funny at one point but these ideas are retarded, the current mechanics work as intended and are fine if you arent a retard, totk then "fixed" it by further babying casuals but that wasnt enough because its a genuine fucking skill issue.

>>718541759
Why are you so mentally ill, snoyric?

>>718540395
>God willing you won’t live for another 10 years.
Your constant HBP from 24hr seething about a toy someone likes more than you is going to see you dead by 40 and youll be off to hell right after God asks you to account for wishing death on people for liking something you dont.

>>718540414
>Boy I sure should play something else
The thought never occurred to you, did it?

>>718542467
Eric, spamming your retarded tranny pics won't save you.

>>718541759
>he posted it

>>718542814
see >>718542528

>>718542814
$70 btw

>>718542814
>spend 20 years whinging about how the water temples are all too complicated (even though they are built so even DSP-tiered retards can finish them)
>get a water temple that isnt complicated
>bitch anyways.

>>718543004
see >>718542910

6 years, $70

>>718543323
They should just make a home console that can run real games

>he thinks nuZelda is actually good
how old are you?

>>718543465
>>718543323
>>718543390>>718543539

Mentally ill snoytranny

>>718543785
>participating in or instigating a flamewar

>>718543539
My favourite part of this retarded argument is:
>zelda has le structure
>botw is bad for having le structure
Not to mention tutorials wouldnt even exist if the brainlets could read manuals, as the 86 zelda required in order to understand everything a tutorial would now teach you.

>>718544068
>five major points of interest in that single image
yeah okay.

>>718544068
>>718544008

Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>718544889
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>718545325
Why are you such a pedophile?

>>718545480
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

Reminder Nu Zelda is pro-pedo.

>>718545973
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>718546305
Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?

>>718546305
>>718545973
>>718545480
>>718545325
>>718544889
Least obvious pedophile sametrannying

>>718546780
>>718546305
>>718545973
>>718545480
>>718545325
>just spamming images
Total OP meltdown.

>>718546305
what uhh... What am I suppose to be mad at here?

Feels good bros

>>718547258
>Eric spammers calling anything else spam.
Eric could become a filtered word and Zelda threads would only improve for it.

>>718547586
The amount and size of the sky islands after 6 years of work. That'll be $70 prease!

>>718547967
Why are you having a total meltdown?
Just spamming images isn't normal behaviour.

>>718547258
I'm OP and I would never post an Office meme

>>718548130
>>718547967
Nobody is falling for that tranny cope.

>>718548284
See >>718547258