Thread 718500805

Release date today, boyos.
Where we dropping?

When will it be free?
Though I am more optimistic about this than Stellaris, Imperator or Victoria.

Somewhere between Europe & Asia so I can fuck in both directions

>>718500805 (OP)
oh great another paradox milkcow cashgrab that like ck3 and vic3 will get 1 dlc every year and will take decaudes to be finished all while selling 40 euros dlc

>>718501152
>When will it be free?
Right after the release.

>>718501152
It won't be free. But I will not be paying for it if you catch my drift.

>>718501186
1 DLC per year does not sound like a bad deal.
If they are not overpriced and add cool stuff to the game, wich is not the case with Paradox.

>>718501506
The dlc policy looks worse in retrospect than in actuality. EU4 was already goated before they started spamming dlc. Now because they made an amazing game far more amazing than it previously was they're bad because the old version looks bad in comparison. I don't want to cuck for these jews but it's unfair

>>718501506
ck3 and vic3 have been plagued by very slow developments, the games still feel barebone, you can play as Russia, USA or Brazil and they literally all feel the same in Vic 3. CK3 has pretty much the same copy paste mechanics. Stellaris is the only unique one but it took like 10 years to get to this point and still its suffering from a huge brain drain where every DLC is the exact same situation with some slop inbetween...

>>718501851
>Now because they made an amazing game far more amazing than it previously was they're bad because the old version looks bad in comparison.
I'm still playing Vicky II.

>>718500805 (OP)
I'll be maining Die.

>no release date
AIEEEEEEEEEEE

Sweden, to make Kalmar Union properly this time. Or, if it has to be in >HRE as per OPs pic related, then Augsburg for the ebin Fugger mene :DDDDD

>4th November
They really couldn't bother make it the 11th for the meme?

>>718500805 (OP)
Ireland. Looks like they've added enough provinces so I won't get insta-raped by england when there was only 4 or 5.

Whatever dumbass failed to put the release date in the trailer should be fired, how on earth did they not do that. Also here are the PC specs

>>718504419
Well at least king Tut's tomb was discovered on 4th.

What do we think about this?

>>718506780
Might be finally time to upgrade my i5-3570k.

>>718507278
Not gated at all is it? Just create Belgium in the 1300s, totally makes sense.

>>718500805 (OP)
Venice..home
Venice was soo fun in crusader kings 2, they need to bring back trade Republics as playable in 3

>>718507727
Merchant republics were only tolerable if you only had max 2 counties. Otherwise enjoy your raiders.

I already bought it

Premium or regular?

I like playing as Pooland and dunking on russhits germs and hungries

>>718507912
They are having a laugh at you in /vst/.

>>718507278
That's just dumb. Belgium should only be creatable, if there exists a division between Catholics and Protestants.

>>718507278
>tri color flag in medieval times
gross

>>718508475
I don't care what nazi virgins think

>>718507689
Maybe tier II means some form of gating? Or is it something like end-game tag thing in EUIV but this time there's some tier system.

>>718508725
Sir, this is a nazi virgins website.

>>718500805 (OP)
Rest in piss Vic3

>>718507891
That's the cost of doing business

>>718507278
>fantastical idea
based shitflinging

>>718507278
i think it's fine, belgica was still sometimes used during the medieval times and basically every relevant kingdom has a similar story behind its name
flag is kinda cringe tho

>>718500805 (OP)
>Few hundreds of norse pagan pops confirmed
Greenland reconversion and pagan Vinland for me
VGH

>>718500805 (OP)
wait it releases today or they'll release the release date today?

>>718500805 (OP)
>Victoria 3 2.0
Nah I'm good.

I boughteyed

>>718509429
>release the release date today
Its nov 4th, if you were a troon influencer they'd let you play it early for 30 minutes now but since youre a normal fan, get fucked they say

>>718500805 (OP)
i will be pirating every dlc
fuck the swedish kikes

>>718509973
ah well

>>718508781
Yeah it's like the end-game tag. There are 5 tiers and you can form any higher tier (or same?) but not lower. So Roman Empire will be tier V

>>718508872
Only if you're a retarded election tourist

i always play hungary first

>>718506780
what the fuck

did they just give up on optimizing the game? what happened to "if you can play vic3 you can play eu5"?

>>718500805 (OP)
What's the easiest nation in Europe? I usually only do casual Asian RP runs so I rarely played in Europe in EU4. Will it still be Portugal?

The Greeks so I can fulfill Alexander's dream of reaching Okeanos and beyond

>>718512319
Probably England, France, Spain and Sweden. I also saw one gameplay in Ireland and it looked piss easy but they might have fixed that.

>>718507278
Holy cringe.

>>718512815
Since demographics are destiny Sweden is going to be shit. The only saving grace of Sweden is fuck huge copper production and being far away from anyone.

>>718511890
>paradox
>optimization
checked on stellaris lately?

>>718509728
they gave you back your toy soldiers chud, buy the fucking game NOW

>>718512319
Byzantium
Just gotta win that first war

>>718513045
But everyone around you also has very low population until you meet Muscovy/Novgorod and after you gobbled up Norway and Finland (maybe Denmark) you also should have quite the decent population

>>718511207
Tier V makes sense for Rome, but watch them still lock it behind some meme decision chain with like 10 vassal requirements and 7 culture conversions. I’m just hoping they don't timegate it with “wait 100 years after forming Italy” nonsense again. Forming Rome should feel like you steamrolled a third of the map, not like you filled out a checklist from HR.

>>718513649
NGL I hate how the start is the hardest part of Paradox games

>>718513675
Finland isn't even colonized yet outside the south coast, it doesn't have a population for shit. The first population census in Sweden was a state secret for a reason.

>>718506780
>TFW 4790k potato
I knew this would happen, but its still funny

>>718514217
The finnish migration should still be happening when Sweden colonizes it, right?
Or if you are desperate you could invite - god forgive me- g*rman settlers

>>718507689
look at the scroll bar, there are probably more requirements

>>718511890
I'm just waiting to see how bad that China DLC for CK3 runs

>>718500805 (OP)
Dropping right into my home country ofc , it's finally not going to suck playing it during this period

>>718514016
the start is the hardest part of every strategy game with computer opponents

>>718500805 (OP)
EUIV is the only paradox game I've put any real time into, I hope this one is good. And that they don't disguise updates as DLC such that they're more or less mandatory to have to have the experience the devs are expecting you to have even when there's hundreds of dollars worth.

>>718500805 (OP)
Lusatia..... home.....

>>718514016
It's basically impossible to design meaningful late-game in games as long as these because the player will always optimize to a state of having won far before that, no matter how many roadblocks you try to put up to slow them down, they'll figure something out. Worst yet, the game actively encourages you to reach this state as fast as possible because you're in a dangerous position until then, so the mechanics are encouraging you to invalidate them. 4X has the exact same problem.

I always quit in the 1600s because I'm so powerful that no one can fight me except for when Ottomans wants to send his entire army over land over 20 years and he has AI buffs that let him save manpower and not lose his mind microing all the armies.

>>718500805 (OP)
why?

>>718521029
eu4 turns into a slog mid to late game
paradox were unironically right when they decided to nuke the combat system in vic3, too bad its replacement is total garbage too

>>718500805 (OP)
I always do Italy region first, so probably Milan.

>>718518782
Well you just need ways to prevent the player from blobbing insanely quickly, but then world conquest trannies will complain that the game isn't fun because they've been playing for 50 years and haven't even conquered all of western europe yet, the horror

>trailer flashes to Sweden owning all of Europe
I thought this wouldn't be possible in eu5

All this means is that EU4 is finally complete and I will no longer be required to pay for DLCs to get the whole game.
'appy days.

>giga-comfy portugal colonial game
>medici florence -> italian unification
>byzantine resurgence
>holland -> republican dutch money printer

>>718521029
just banish their army to Siberia bro

>>718521418
How is combat in EU5? I really hope it's not the same. Landing 1 army to stackwipe their fort is tolerable, but I have literally never fought a cross continent deathwar, I just quit by then.

I don't care about Swedish map painting with quarterly DLC sheckling games anymore.

post your favourite unit sprite

for me, it's the Tier 4 Inca

gallery: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/europa-universalis-iv-dlc-render-pictures-archive.773550/

Okay but what about the next HoI4 DLC?
>say they're going to make dev corners
>make a couple and stop
>then come out saying it's going to starts happening again regularly
>they do one and nothing since July 29th
I just want a Japan tree that isn't shit and a naval rework that actually makes it worthwhile to make a navy. They are on the right path with the faction goals mechanic but where's the rest of it?!?!

>>718521987
papal states had some peak units

People who play nu-Paradox slop puzzle me.

I will create the Neo-Celtic Empire

>>718521987
Ulster's T1 is kino the others all look stupid as fuck. most irish nations have cool units, but both ulster and the "ireland" tag have mostly shitty ones

>>718521796
ai is so absurd
it's always trying to weasel its way to siberia to carpet siege it

>>718522180
One day I'll dive into Vicky 2 autism proper.

>>718507278
I should have the option to shatter France and Germany into 15 disparate states when I play as Britain. Right now this is only possible in crusader kings

>ctrl+f Brandenburg
>zero hits
Son, I am disappoint.

>>718522447
>make a tight fort line
>except for the classic opening in Siberia
>AI sees an opening like a shark seeing blood in the water
>moves 300,000 men across the world just to break into this pocket
>which you have carefully crafted to not let them in through Central Asia with an inner ring of forts, but all of Siberia is ripe for Ottoman conquest
>siege down all of the Ottomans land in the 2 years this takes
>win war with nearly no losses while Ottomans suffer hundreds of thousands of losses in attrition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP59vpuEJx8
What an absolute banger of a trailer theme

>>718522632
HAIL PRVSSIA

>>718522469
It's really not that autistic. If you ignore the intricacies of industry, pop influence and trade and keep it all automated it's actually quite simple. Unlike EU4 your population actually lives on its own and doesn't require your input for every single thing.
Literally just try it. Download it, pick Prussia and play. Then for the second playthrough use crimeamod.

>>718506780
What the fuck lol

>>718507278
I think you mean the Austrian/Spanish/French Flanders

Hopefully this doesn't crash PCs with bluescreens like vicky 3.

>>718522820
I get that you can play it like that but I've read enough AARs to know you can get into the weeds and that's my shit.

>>718507689
It's gated to the age of revolutions

/his/fag here

if you like playing as european countries but want to know what's different about them in EU5's start date, ask away

>>718504892
>insta-raped by england
Uh no offence but isn't that historically accurate?

>>718521418
Nah, nuking the combat altogether was a bad idea.
>>718521812
EU5 is in many respects a sequel to Imperator: Rome. Like Imperator, EU5 has army automation, which is great for the mid-to-late game grind, which is annoying in EU4. You can, and should, still manually control armies in meaningful situations. Just don't need to bother in those less meaningful ones, and focus on something else.

>>718522984
That's how you're gonna play it for your first game anyway. You have to learn sometime. Can't just start off knowing everything.
Here's my first game ever. Basically ignored the pop screen and used the game as a blobbing simulator. And asked /gsg/ a shitload of questions about every mechanic.

>>718523082
>/his/fag here
How does it feel to know you're posting in a discount /gsg/?

>>718523267
Was this supposed to be reassuring? Imperator Rome was a dog shit flop and their worst game in years despite covering some of the most interesting events in the history of western civilization

>>718514016
It isn't always. For example, in my Karabakh -> Greater Armenia run I did last year or so, the starting war of independence against QQ was easier than the eventual war against the Ottomans after I became a regional power. They had snowballed so hard and I was relatively isolated diplomatically, so it was tough to beat them.
Paradox games are actually pretty good at providing some interest beyond the very beginning. I'd say only midgame EU4 gets boring and that's only for some countries.
Maybe I just suck.

>>718523082
will Byzantium be easy now

>>718522820
>crimeamod
Sell me this mod.
What exactly so special about it?

>>718523082
Tell me about the Teutonic Order.

>>718523530
It's a meme mod

>>718523412
Imperator was dogshit at release, due to Johan's obsession with mana. Now it's one of Paradox's best games. If you kept up with these things, you'd know that. The direction Imperator took after release should reassure you, because EU5 is born of the lessons taught by Imperator's shit release.

>>718507278
Swedes are honorary Anglos

>>718518241
boy do I have some news for you

>>718523448
You're probably going to get raped by disasters pretty early on and Ottos will receive crazy buffs that railroad them into conquering Anatolia and being able to overpower you quickly.

>>718500805 (OP)
Anything east or south of HRE, but north or east of Oman is good.

>>718523736
hoo boy

>>718523448
byzantium is either going to be a showcase of new pop and development mechanics or its going to be a modifierslop
i actually like how vic3 models core-periphery dynamic, but i doubt paradox can pull something like this on a much longer historical period

>>718522632
Brandenburg in 1337 didn't even have the Hohenzollerns yet. It was under control of the Wittelsbachs, and it wasn't until 1415 that the Hohenzollerns took over. It wasn't even an elector yet-that came about in 1356.
>>718523183
Ireland wasn't really conquered by England until the 1600s, anon. In 1337, the Burke dynasty had just erupted into civil war which saw many of them assimilate into Gaelic society (as many Normans did) and thus losing England many footholds. The O'Neills returned to power in Ulster and built a power base that wouldn't be shifted until the final death of Gaelic Ireland in the early 1600s.
>>718523363
it's fun, /gsg/ can be insufferable
>>718523448
>easy
Easier, for sure. Picrel was its borders a few years after the EU5 start date. The Emperor is Andronikos III, who was generally regarded as one of the last half-decent rulers of Byzantium. He died in 1341, and the ensuing civil war helped Byzantium slide into ruin; assumedly, preventing this will leave you not only strong but very well placed to push back the Ottomans.
>>718523556
>german crusaders come home and get sent to fight pagan europeans in the baltics
>they do so successfully
>congrats, you guys are now a religious order
In 1337, they had *supposedly* got blessing from the Holy Roman Empire to essentially expand eastward indefinitely; people were giving them land in return for their military aid, and they reached their peak territory in 1407.

However they fell into decline shortly afterwards, getting their shit rocked by Slavs, Poles, and then Prussians.

>>718523448
Not that anon but in 1337 they held most of the Greek peninsula, so I’d assume so. They probably have some major debuffs if I had to guess, they pretty much had a string of incompetent emperors and economic issues during their death spiral.

>>718523797
They did say that any Turkish minor can become the "Ottoman" Empire so I wonder if they'll all have some starting buffs or really just the Ottos.

>>718524025
Cool, thanks. Now what about Bohemia? What made those people so opposed to Catholic authority, anyway? I know that's a hundred years later but I imagine there's some seeds of that fomenting already.

Have they said anything specific about the Hussites? I wonder how the event chain will play out.

>>718523736
I'm glad Paradox games are free.

>>718513094
The really fucked up thing is that the pop update actually did fix pop lag, but somehow they fucked up other stuff so much that it entirely negated the pop improvements.

>>718523270
VGH that Deutsches Reich just made me BUST

>>718523635
Then why should I play it.

>>718524391
>>718524423
Check out the manga Otome Sensou if you want some Hussite kino before the game releases.

>>718523448
Some streamer fags already demoed the game and played Byzantium.
It's still very difficult! You have many disasters active, you're a money slave to Venice, have powerful Serbia to the north and you have ticking timer before Greeks in Anatolia get ethnically cleansed and replaced by Turks. And primary population and religion mean a lot more in EU5.

>>718524771
I've read worse looking things and it's 60 chapters. That's how it always starts. Next thing I know I'll be reading all the mangaka's works.

>>718523736
All flavor.

>>718523530
It's a mod that prioritizes gameplay first and foremost.
The AI is significantly improved and will not kill itself like in HPM-derivatives. It will actually pose a challenge.
You can do things like target your colonial migration to create settler colonies a la Rhodesia. Without having to rely on historical decisions, just pick and choose yourself.
In general the cultures are much more streamlined for gameplay. No more cultures just slightly different from yours being treated as badly as african niggers.

>>718524025
>/gsg/ can be insufferable
what the fuck did you just fucking say about my homeland, you little nigger?

>>718524391
>bohemia
Often overlooked place. EU5 starts just before Charles IV comes along as King and Holy Roman Emperor, and he's generally regarded as one of the better ones; his rule over Bohemia is regarded as Golden Age and he implemented some big reforms in the HRE.

You can think of it as sort of like if Bohemia became the HRE diplomacy nation instead of Austria.
>religious stuff
So the lands that became Bohemia were christianised by Greeks, not western Catholics; so they had some different rites and beliefs. However, as Bohemian society drifted to be closer to the rest of Catholic Europe, Catholicism was imposed upon them. Lots of Bohemians got pissed off about this and they had their own reformation; they denounced the corrupt church and so on, and were as a result attacked and crusaded against.

The Hussite Wars begin about 80ish years after the start date, so theyre'll be plenty of flavour there. Interestingly, the Kingdom Come Deliverance series is set in a civil war that happened just after Charles IV died.

>>718523879
>>718524546
Does the spacewar hack with Steam API still work? I want to play multiplayer with friends

>>718525171
Awesome. I read a lot about Jan Hus at one point so it's cool to have some more foundation. Today, anon was pretty cool.

Can somebody leak the game already?

Johan says I pay 80box, I pay 80bux plus tip

>>718525343
You will also get to have this crazy fucker as a maxed out general at some stage. His name is Jan Žižka and he's astoundingly overlooked, easily one of the greatest military leaders of his time.

He was an ally and friend of Jan Hus, and became a borderline mythological hero for the Czechs despite being born as late as 1360. If I'm not mistaken, he didn't lose a single battle in his career. crazy one eyed fucker

>>718525641
Oh fuck yeah. I love undefeated godly generals. There's common links between all of them but they all still have their own tactics and strategies they prefer that's always really interesting and expressive to look at.

>>718523082
How's Russia?

>>718525870
split in regional powers

>>718525870
Still the bitch of the golden horde, tax fraud in progress though

>>718525228
when vic3 came out I was able to play multiplayer on a pirated copy with other friends that pirated it without doing anything

>>718500805 (OP)
how does one even get into these map games?
i have owned CK2 for the longest time but could never get into it

>>718525870
Ah, Russian is a cool one.

So around 100 years before EU5's start date, the Mongols invaded and razed the fuck out of most of what is now western Russia-at the time known as the Kievan Rus, one of the first Slavic kingdoms in the east iirc.

They broke up the Slav kingdom into many smaller principalities, and caused most urban centres to fall into rapid decline. You start in 1337; Ivan II is in charge as Prince of Moscow, and wants to try and re-align Russia with other eastern Europeans and hopefully escape the ongoing oppression of the Mongol hordes.

Russian games therefore typically take on the form of you playing as Muscovy and slowly building power both at home and through alliances with your fellow slavic neighbours (often through dynastic unions). Eventually, when you're ready, you will unite them together and drive the Mongols out of your lands-freeing your people and declaring the Tsardom of Russia. That is what Ivan III (the Great) did.

>>718526287
It's more about finding the right map game since they're all a bit different

>>718525228
Just use creamapi with the DLC files.

>>718526419
shh they are lurking

>>718526381
Ai post

>>718526413
>since they're all a bit different
in what way?

>>718526287
They're all very different.

The Crusader Kings series is more about characters than map painting; you are playing as a dynasty, the countries in the game are more just ways for you to make it more prestigous or successful and giving you access to more shit for your character(s) to get to do.

EU4 is probably the most expansive game; several centuries across many of the worlds most interesting periods, and a wildly varied experience. EU4 is mostly "mana" management (admin, military, diplomacy mana which is used for everything) with some relatively simple economy stuff that mostly handles itself. EU5 will be similar, but seems to have a bigger focus on extra economic/administrative mechanics.

The Victoria series, meanwhile, is mostly about economics. In Victoria 3 you'll spend far more time managing your industry+resources and your society in general (aka, fostering or suppressing certain political movements) while stuff like colonisation/war is mostly a way to gain more people+resources to beef up your nation.

>>718526721
thats very informative actually
ty

>>718526631
CK is basically an RPG as seen from space desu. The proper way to play is to develop terminal autism and role play a character.

Id say i'll wait a couple years for it to have actual content but CK3 has been out for 5 years and its still pretty barebones compared to ck2.

>>718526926
It strikes me that the paradox game focused on people rather than just pure map painting would be the least autistic, not the most.

>>718527487
It's because unlike the other games, you aren't really metagaming to gain loads of power or whatever. The only failstate is if you die and have no heir; CK3 even has a "landless characters" system so if you lose all your land you can just wander the world as knight or an assassin for hire or whatever.

That means the main goal is
>make my character have a cool story
and while eventually you'll learn the typical patterns, it allows for actual fun roleplay-esque stuff like
>okay my guy is very strong
>I will send him hunting because he is strong
>oh no, he lost an eye to a boar
>no matter, he will heal and people will think he looks cool
>crusade time
>he's winning lots of battles
>oh no, he got horrifically mutilated
>he has to wear a mask now
>his time away crusading allowed his shitty brother to take his throne from him
>he is now a wandering masked knight, vowing to get revenge on his brother

So you can do stuff that "hurts" you since your "nation" is your dynasty+heirs, but if killing your brother puts a better king on the throne then it's all good. The other games are far more static, while so much of CK is RNG.

>>718524771
I read that years ago but the fantranslation stopped, did it continue on?
It was pretty good, I liked how they characterized Zizka

>>718527487
Vicky is just a line go up simulator and EU4 is an expanded game of Risk. Larp is optional.
In CK you have to have a vague idea of a fake person in your mind that you play as and only do things that agree with his personality, and then when he dies you need to invent another fake person in your head and do it all over again. In EU4 if you lose a war you reload the save because it's over, in CK if you get captured and blinded you have to stick with it because otherwise it's fail RP. It's made for a specific type of map painters that want to pretend those games are deeper than they really are.

>>718527823
Whole thing's on mangadex

>>718500805 (OP)
I have just gotten into Strategy games with Civ6 (Love it) and Civ7 (Bitterly disappointed)

What is EU like? Any similar to Civ or a fair bit different? Would I like it if I liked Civ6?

>>718528401
4x and grand strategy have a good amount in common.

>>718528401
If you like 4x games you can try Stellaris.
It's not grand strategy, but it's still a Paradox games.

>>718528580
Not really gsg drops the whole exploration part

>>718523082
What’s going on with Wales? It’s where half of my family comes from so I’m interested in playing it, but rarely hear anything about it

>>718528401
If you loved Civ6 your standards are in the gutter anyway so might aswell play EU5.
It's a "historical" (for like the first 3 years) empire builder that can get pretty autistic at times. I might warn you that one playthrough might take 20 hours or more and depending on how the AI behaves in 5 it might get boring after 200 years because you outscaled everybody and can pretty much do what you want.

>14700K/9800X3D as recommended
L
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It's gonna run like this.

>>718528893
Like what?

>>718528893
Is the minute-long post delay supposed to represent a day-tick?

>>718507278
a ridiculous fake country

>>718526381
>what's different in the EU5 start date
>it's the exact same

>>718528401
It's a bit like a 4X game.
>>718528730
Not in EU games; the discovery, exploration and colonisation of the new world is central to the game for many nations. Every province produces certain goods, so for example as Portugal you'll be exploring Brazil (or elsewhere, if you want) and slowly colonising it to exploit it for its goods.
>>718528827
Wales in this period had just lost its Welsh dynasty; England had just about consolidated its administration over Wales and caved it up, abolishing Welsh institutions to replace them with English ones. There was a last ditch attempt to rebel against them around 15 years priot to EU5's start.

There will likely be an event of some kind around 40 years after the game starts, to mark Owain Lawgoch's rebellion; he was a Welsh veteran soldier descended from Llyweln the Great, a Welsh King from the 12th Century. He claimed the throne and rebelled with support from France, but England assassinated him. If you played EU4, it's a similar situation to Scotland; if you take Owain's side you'll be fighting England (scary) but hoping France managed to land troops.

>>718529240
Yeah, Genghis sure did kick everybody's ass. So hard that people dared not do shit for 200 years.

>>718528893
9800X3D is way stronger than the 14700k, it's more like 5800X3D.

>>718529346
Isn't Novgorod a lot more dominant in the region in 1337 compared to Muscovy in 1444?

>>718529335
Yes in EU games too. The map is always the same and resources won't have any major affect.

>>718529240
Not quite the exact same. EU4 starts when the Mongolfags already in terminal decline.

Your early game as Muscovy in EU5 will be much more focused on reforming your various institutions and slowly unifying a wider Muscovite society. You're much weaker and certainly in no position to challenge the Golden Horde.

>>718529476
Not massively so, but they were a threat. You're essentially competing with them to be the Big Dog of the area, and to be the "favourite" of the Tartars because whoever they trust the most is the one that's the "senior partner" in the union of all the principalities.

>>718528893
It's so over poorbros...

>>718528893
>tfw i5-12600k
n-no...

>>718501186
Paradox games are the best hours played per dollars spent.
If you're poor just pirate it.

>>718522469
>I'll dive into Vicky 2 autism proper
Why bother? If you're living in the US, you're basically living it right now. Trump is doing Vickynomics.

>tfw i5 cuck
its over

>>718530221
where's the massive increase in liquor production

>>718530315
dont worry about it kitten

>>718511403
Found the /soc/ /lgbt/ tourist

>>718530315
I'm busy eating cement

>>718521987
Tier 1 Hungary with the black army is pretty cool

damn, it's going to be out already?
I feel like there's so many nations left for me to play in EU4

The specs are for 4k @ 60fps btw.

>>718530961
yeah while the game is paused, this performance metric is useless in mappies

>people complaining about how there's not enough artificial gating
EU4 sucks and Paradox in general have a design philosophy where they know they can't make the AI beat the player so they try to annoy the player to death with mechanical annoyances.
>can't annex more land because...well you can't ok
>not enough mana
>truce juggling
Putting artificial historic barriers on things is gay because like every other paradox game the game really only exists in the first century or the timeline and if you aren't an unstoppable monster by then you never will be.

Paradox shit is legitimately the most fun when they're the most free wheeling and broken, at release. All the dlc and patches is death by a thousand cuts telling the player 'um actually you have to be more annoyed and wait your turn'.

>>718514016
that's the late game actually, it requires a lot of motivation to pull through and not start another campaign

>>718531391
Yeah, EU4 1.0 is such a great and fun game.

>>718531391
Every DLC will be a cheat so don't worry you will be able to paint the map with ease.

>>718531391
Most DLC has always made earlier snowballing easier and easier.

>>718525138
>what the fuck did you just fucking say about my homeland, you little nigger?
>still utilizing the reply function
you're too sane to for that general

well, when in rome do as the romans do
not replying here would be insane

>>718530717
I'm pretty sure the game will fall apart before the XV century.

>>718531391
maybe play eu4 1.0 for the first time and revisit your post

Ulm, of course.

>>718500805 (OP)
Castile tutorial to make hapa babies in Philippines again.

haha surely my ryzen 7 3700x will be able to run this well, right?
haha surely, it's just a map.

>>718500805 (OP)
Japan

>>718532332
34 fps by 1420 take it or leave it

>kills enemies of the Church
>gets rich

>>718532332
No, no it won't.

>>718500805 (OP)
chuds play this game thinking they're somehow restoring the glory of whatever utopian society, but then give away thousands in cash to the DLC kike
baka

>>718532959
>utopian

>>718532959
Thougheverbeitthough I've never boghted a single cent of paradox DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT

and nwver woll admitdly thoughwver this will bd fhe first game of theirs i but full price

>>718511403
those "election tourists" are older than you

>kill EU 4 with multiple bad unfinished DLCs
>announce EU5
>gobble it up
Can't be me lmao

>>718533271
highly unlikely

>>718500805 (OP)
Poland. Seems like it'll be in a position where its not too OP but not too ball bustingly hard.

>>718533265
>this will bd fhe first game of theirs i but full price
Why? Predatory practices like this is like gachashit
Also put your phone down and go to sleep or get sober and come back

>>718533389
>kill EU 4 with multiple bad unfinished DLCs
?
The last few DLC were really good, the disaster that was Leviathan was a long time ago already.

>>718533526
Becayse i like eu4 and i NEED to show people im playing newest slop and also easy access to steam worksgop. Fuck you nigger i cant be fucked to mot roll my face on my piece of shit phone

>>718530961
doesn't matter, once you unpause almost any pc will melt due to the sheer number of calculations running at the same time.

>>718531391
Lol, lmao even

bought the premium edition

>>718531391
You want to blob MORE? Most wars in the time period resulted in minor territorial changes, the fact you can go from an OPM in the HRE to emperor of the whole fucking EU is nuts.

>>718533650
It's true.
The concent of the DLCs since like 2021 has a shitton of critical bugs that never get fixed because the dev team jumped to the next DLC to generate revenue.

>>718500805 (OP)
muscovy or bohemia

I can't wait to grief MP lobbies by nation ruining myself in player wars once I realize I'm losing.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP RAISING LEVIES AND MAKING YOUR LAND USELESS, NO NO NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT
Watch all the MP friends seethe and make rules about it.

>>718500805 (OP)
Brandenburg into Prussia, yep it's gaming time

>>718534616
Bringing down your opponent with you should be up to the player. I like to do it when someone's a fag, but I don't mind conceding if it was a good fight.

>>718534589
That was only for 2021-2022 DLC. Winds of Change, King of Kings, Emperor and Lions of the North all came after and are very solid and didn't really have big bugs on release. The main criticism of those is that they took too much inspiration from mod and pretty much just made paid mods.

>>718535273
You can go to the Paradox forums and see for yourself bugs are still being reported but nobody is ever going to fix them.
This includes not being able to complete mission trees even late into the game because the last DLCs were a mess.

>>718534831
I have never done a Brandenburg game in EU4 with hundreds of hours logged into it. Is it really that fun? It just seems like AE faggotry where taking 1 tile gets you a massive coalition and necessitates taking espionage ideas

>>718536087
It used to be better, forming Prussia as the Teutons powercreeped the fuck out of it though.

>>718534409
I want the difficulty inherent in blobbing to be the threat of other players, not static speed bumps in the road.

If you cant play as your own city, you are from a shithole.

>>718536559
So the USA is a shithole?

>>718536709
Yes, very much so.

>>718536087
Haven't played EU4 in years tbdesu and was also never really good at it but it was quite fun creeping up your powerlevel one province after another until the breaking point slightly after forming prussia where noone could threaten you anymore.

>>718500805 (OP)
if trebizond exists, trebizond
otherwise byz

after that, england, brandenburg, poland, idk who else i'll figure it out

>>718536087
in eu4 it's just worse teutonic prussia
in eu5 hopefully it'll be great again

sorry johann but i wont be buying it because of vampyr2

>>718538057
Trebizond exists

>>718538283
fuck yeah, it's rome time

LotR mod status?

>>718534616
>MP
I have played these games for nearly 15 years and still can't believe people do online MP with randoms, the only game I did it in was HoI4 since a lobby can be done in a day but I can't believe people go through multiple sessions with randoms

>>718521987
vgh... what it could have been...

>>718536087
It's a very classic rags to riches run, but your potential is accelerated by having a ton of military modifiers. You start out weak as fuck and have to deal with increasingly strong neighbors on your way to form Germany

>>718500805 (OP)
>Release date today
wait you mean they announce the release date today, right
today isn't the release

>>718541519
4th of november

>>718500805 (OP)
isn't austria supposed to collapse around this time?
or is it post collapse already

>>718501186
I wish they milked them like in the old days. CK3 still feels barebones after 5 years

>>718542098
Vic3 is almost at a point you could call 1.0

>>718536087
I dislike it because you have to either rush to dismantle the HRE or autistically micromanage AE, better to go Teutonic Order and fuck up poles and ruskies
If you want HRE autism play one of the bavarian minors and reform Bavaria, it makes for a fun game even if you don't go for its dumb achievement

Golden Horde gang, where you at?

I hecking love being fucked over constantly, thank you Steam for your fucked default conversion and invalidating the only reason people want regional currencies and also thank you Paradox for not giving a single fuck and not even checking if the suggested conversion is correct.
Sorry bros, but if you don't live in Poland then your country is a shithole, simple as.

>>718544858
Can't you just buy from key sites?

>>718545013
That's what I'm gonna do.
Still, nothing will change unless people raise a stink about it.

>>718500805 (OP)
Give it to me straight:
I've enjoyed CK3, but HATED Stellaris. Will I probably enjoy EU5, as someone who's never played a EU game?

>>718545691
>Hello r*ddit I like shit but I HATED piss will I enjoy a nice wet shart??

>>718545691
Stellaris is nothing like any of the other Paradox games. Never played CK3, but CK2, Vic2 and EU4 implicitly share some design parts while still being very different

>>718506780
>>> Recommends 32 GBs of ram just for another map-painting game
Come the fuck on, man
Does nobody optimize games anymore nowadays?

>>718541397
But why should I play as Brandenburg and not the Teutonic Order? Especially considering historically, it was Ducal Prussia that ended up forming Brandenburg-Prussia.

>>718545818
Please understand we need fully modelled 3D rulers for the cuckoldry mods.

>>718545818
but we NEED to simulate a billion african pops that do fucking nothing the entire game except take up CPU cycles, it's absolutely CRUCIAL to the EU5 experience!

>>718546365
They just need a setting like Anbennar where I can disable parts of the world.

>>718545870
>it was Ducal Prussia that ended up forming Brandenburg-Prussia.
It's more like it was BECAUSE of Ducal Prussia that the Kingdom of Prussia became a thing. Prussia's male bloodline died out.
But the Teutonic Order does have a bunch of great flavor now. You can go the route of secularizing the state and playing the HRE game now and form Prussia that way.

>>718545818
How in the fuck do you not have 32gb

>>718546365
>that do fucking nothing the entire game
jokes on you they are now going to be going toe to toe with the west technology wise for the entire game because they wuz kangz n sheit

>>718545870
>historically, it was Ducal Prussia that ended up forming Brandenburg-Prussia.
????
The Prussian line went extinct and the Margrave of Brandenburg took Ducal Prussia in PU

>>718546614
Just like EU4 post Origins then, I hecking love Kilwa and Congo sending 120k stacks to siege me every time I start a war with Portugal!

>>718532225
>Ulm
The only choice

>>718545691
This is going to be a mix of EU3, Vicky 2 and Imperator, if you enjoyed those you will probably enjoy EU5.

>>718545818
Ironically enough, Battlefield 6 run pretty good.

>>718548179
ck3, vicky 3 and imperator*

>>718500805 (OP)
>falling for it again

>>718532225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSlGdnbIUw8

how is eu5 going to deal with personal unions and other monarchial shenanigans? part of the fun of ck3 was wrangling titles through strategic marriage. eu5 seems more tryhard like vic 3.

>>718524574
my brother in christ 4.0 performance was worse than ever

and not only did they not fix it after the fact but went on to say that when they make the AI "smarter" and get more pops and more fleets the game will run even worse

Will this game be good on release or we need to wait 5 years until it's as good as EU4?

>>718554458
My nigger can you not read?

>>718542753
took many years
>>718529993
good goy, """buy""" videogames and be excited
of course I pirate Paraslop, I buy the base game so I have the workshop and MP, but I never paid for a DLC