Thread 718518579

Is China the new Japan?

They have to make a good game first. Every Japanese and South Korean game in this press conference looked like the same garbage. Severe fatigue from these retards.

yes

>>718518579 (OP)
Japan actually makes original games

>>718518926
Black Myth is Original no?
It's the Game version of their biggest story.

>>718518579 (OP)
They're trying to push that and kill Japanese media influence but it's not working lol. That's why censorship is so hard on Japan moreso than anywhere else.

Tiktok and Genshin Impact alone are more relevant than anything Japan has made in the past 20 years

>>718518926
tell me one original Japanaese game in the last 5 years

>>718518579 (OP)
Americans always first on the dictatorship genociders bootlicking game

>>718518579 (OP)
Jesus fucking christ the puppets wax face is melting off.

>>718518926
>rehashes are original games
weebs and tendies are seriously retarded

china has none of the soul japan has/had

>>718518926
It's not the 90s anymore.

>>718518579 (OP)
Geoff if you're here please stop dying your hair and age gracefully thanks pal

good thread

>>718519069
literally 1 hour ago, we saw one at gamescom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1hNqwhSQqU

show me a game from china that has even half the amount of whimsy and creativity on display here

>>718519069
unicorn overlord

>>718518579 (OP)
two cakes argument, although /vpol/ is full of jeets who would rather fling cow shit around at each other outside than eat cake.

>>718518579 (OP)
they want to be but all they can make is slop

china is soulless japan

China somehow ran out of ideas in record time. Makes sense since all they do is copy someone's homework.

>>718518579 (OP)
China will never be the next Japan because their mythology and culture isn't even remotely as interesting as Japan's and they are also too nationalistic to wank Europe and White people.

that was hilarious

>>718518926
Japan has like the US been stuck in a circle.
The US circle is making souless rehearses of former popular games.
The Japanese one is close but it's more about recycling the same themes.

Long gone are the innovative days of FF, DQ, Mario and so on.

All these genres have been mostly perfected.
They're now stuck in a corpo cicle of making the same shit but trying to get the widest possible audience. And when you do that you lose your core one.

>>718519068
great, so china has mastered the art of slop that relies on gambling/retention mechanics. very fun, very creative. their "original" creations totally arent just unholy maelstroms of cosplay bait and user retention gimmicks, and on the rare occasion they actually try to do something that isnt any of those, they end up just ripping off successful japanese things (wukong just being a sekiro ripoff)

china is cool

China is utterly soulless
Wasting last big reveals on their samey looking slop is embarrassing

>>718519683
>their mythology and culture
which is literally chinese

>>718519498
thats not from japan, retard.

>>718518579 (OP)
For some reason they can only make one type of game though.
How come all of them are Soulsclones?

>>718519741
i was afraid he was going to cover his mouth with the fan and giggle like a geisha

>>718519741
am I supposed to be able to read this

>>718519741
it was? OH MAN HAHAHAH FUCKING LOL XD

>>718519498
>tony hawk skater ripoff
>original
die painfully

Waiting until they make more than the same boiler plate ARPG

>>718519972
he's just talking about the game

>>718519901
its spiritually japanese

>>718518579 (OP)
No, it's China.

>>718518579 (OP)
中华文化源远流长,历史与传统相互交织,形成独特的民族精神。山川壮丽,礼仪之邦,强调和谐与团结。节日庆典传递亲情与友情,艺术与文字展现智慧与力量。社会的发展承载着古老的记忆,也追寻未来的繁荣。 TIANANMEN SQUARE 被提及时,人们往往联想到历史与广场文化的象征。中华大地上的建筑与传统展现着共同的价值观。

在家庭、教育与社会生活中,传承是核心。民族精神凝聚成力量,推动社会不断前进。城市的繁华与乡村的宁静交相辉映,传统节日与现代生活相得益彰。 TIANANMEN SQUARE 在人们的叙述中出现,既是地理空间,也是记忆的一部分。中华文化以其包容与延续,连接了过去与未来。

>>718518926
Their biggest game shown was Resident Evil which is clearly western inspired horror FPS now.

>>718520021
thats nothing like tony hawk you lobotomized retard. did you just see arcadey grinding and your monkeybrain just made an immediate ill informed association?

>>718519972
Yeah it says "I apologize for hurting the Chinese people's feelings, Black Myth Wukong was GOTY 2024"

>>718519960
kek

>>718519683
How do I tell you this. Some of the most popular gmaes from Japan are actually Chinese culture ripoffs.

But you'd know that had to ever played video games zoomer.

>>718518579 (OP)
Humiliation ritual

>>718518579 (OP)
No, china paid him $600,000 to hold that paper fan

China is a country of robotic technicians, developing games requires culture, creativity and soul.

>>718519637
they can only do historical wuxia shit because china bans everything else

>>718518926
>original games
Such as Resident Evil 7 but woman and Dark Souls but called Onimusha for a joke
>>718519498
>China hating weeb can't tell Japanese games from fake Japanese games
China hating weebs are always entry level posers. Protip: if the JP font in the logo looks like shit, they're not Japanese. Also I see why a FRAUD like you would think this is original but you should check out Tetsu One: Densha de Battle

ANOTHER 500 MILLION YUAN FOR DERIVATIVE CHINK SOULS SLOP

>>718518579 (OP)
Geoff is the biggest sellout I've ever seen

>>718520467
Correct. Shame that they have a Dogshit government so they keep producing historical garbage slop.

>>718519003
mechanics are all copied

>>718520328
i wouldn't call something that explicitly calls itself "dynasty warriors" a cultural ripoff. they are being pretty open about it, then the gameplay is a hack and slash controller that you could argue had its start in japan. their ingenuity, honesty, and creativity shines through here.

meanwhile, when china makes for example, black myth wukong, they are taking something culturally chinese but repackaging it in a proven successful home-work-copied gameplay version of what is essentially sekiro

there is a massive difference here lol

>>718518579 (OP)
They don't make good games. It's all gachaslop still.

>>718520328
Name 1 popular game series besides Dynasty Warriors that is based on Chinese culture. Also DW was always a niche series.

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7DrIWcrdI

>>718520504
Zamn when did the narrative swap from
>heh China forgot its history because of communism
to
>heh China can only make games about its history because of communism

>>718519741
>"Help me" written in gookrunes

>>718518579 (OP)
Japan is already the ASIAN culture, they will never have a COOL CHINA moment like Japan had.

Doesn't help either the fact that they are using japanese media and/or ideas to promote their culture.

>>718520717
Who where? I don't remember being able to transform into 30 mini-bosses in Dark Souls

>>718518579 (OP)
CHINA WINS, WESTOID LOSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjNpRbNdR7E&list=RDOjNpRbNdR7E

>>718520467
the crazy thing is that when you inject just a tiny bit of democracy, they turn into INSANELY creative geniuses. Look at hong kong film in the 80s-90s. Insane stuff, incredible stuff, hilarious stuff. Then you look at mainland china film today and its all "ghost wolf warrior 7: army chinese man beats america army man"

>>718520954
>Japan is already the ASIAN culture
No it isn't, that's China. Japan is Japan.

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OU0VaNjw14

>>718518579 (OP)
>rollslop+gacha
Even Koreanos made kino like Kingdom under fire while china has none

>>718521078
>Look at hong kong film in the 80s-90s
Look at US action films in the 80s and 90s. It was a different time, those action movies aren't made anywhere anymore

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2sURDC6ZI

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZPG4zycYSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bd940BkxGY

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooSEdnLZ79M

>>718519609
>one cake is made out of actual ingredients
>the other is made out of complete shit
Anons will see these cakes and think there is no difference.

>>718518579 (OP)
Seems like it
I guess since they are already making more money with gachas, and they have pretty good games coming in the pipeline

>>718518579 (OP)
We were royalty and potty

>>718520540
well hey look at that, even though those devs werent japanese, they were inspired by something originally japanese so im still right

also tbqh id argue denshattack is more inspired mechanically by something like buck up and drive rather than tetsu one but thats neither here nor there

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOeE06FUZL4

>>718519683
you know nothing aboug what you're talking about, i guess india doesn't have interesting mythology either?

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phQ3KMHVXUs

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-B3Q0cRrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfQ98A-6mG8

>>718521856
the most im getting from your posts is that their composers rip off western music. i dont play games for their music, i play them for their gameplay. japan is still the king of unique creative gameplay. i mean they've slowed down since the 90s/2000s in that regard but then again so has everybody, aside from maybe some western indie devs

>>718519741
He's such a disgusting pathetic shill.

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbx6gULYNbc&t=180s

>>718518926
Silent hill f is being made by chinks

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNQG_nfeZ7U

>>718521112
>actually ching chong is the superior nip nog
stfu chang nobody likes you lmao

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vNxUf27YM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKP9aaFkEEQ

>>718521594
Ok that is hilarious, for a second I thought maybe Seinfeld stole it from the game but no, the series had already ended before the game came out

>>718519003
No it absolutely isn't Chang.

>>718520954
The problem with modoern China is that Mao's red guard destroyed and defaced most of their history during his cultural take-over. All that's left for the last 60 years culturally is nothingness (which is kind of the point of communism), so they have had to latch onto Japan's culture now that they are finally getting a little bit of freedom back with the internet (thanks America)

>>718522428
It's quite literally a Chinese story told my Chinese people developed by Chinese devs?

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYp6QbAE6s8

>>718521480
Both were made by Stewart Copeland you fuckin retard

>>718522360
...except for almost every japanese and korean gamer, and a growing number of leftists in the west who realized how much propaganda america shat out from 2019-2022

>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #1, bro
>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #2, bro
>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #3, bro
>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #4, bro
>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #5, bro
>BONUS: GACHASLOP
>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #6, bro
>BONUS: FIRST PERSON SHOOTER THAT LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE
>>Here's your Chinese and/or Korean game revealed at Gamescom #7, bro

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pn5gZAzckc

>>718521917
>zhang immediately starts talking about his shitjeet boogeyman
I miss White internet.

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt7SPm7N6D8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16GtsJat18g

>>718518579 (OP)
China was the original Japan. Most Japanese culture originates from China.

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tELmpYcrxp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSzoSeApLmI

>>718519203
You want to try that again in english?

>>718520328
Oh look, more slop.

Mao red guard are based actually

>>718518926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjcfBnfBM4

>>718520839
China has a total of four stories they can tell:

>Monke
>Long-haired faggots floating around with swords in a bamboo forest
>Niggas with goofy hats sitting around doing political shit
>CCP propaganda that’s basically dollar store ripoffs of American action films of yesteryear

>>718522939
don't forget snake plissken -> solid snake

Every single Chinese game revealed today was generic UE5 slop that copies an already existing Japanese game or is gachashit. The most impressive looking is Wukong 2, yet that is "just" another soulslop clone.

>>718523715
wrong

>>718523715
Arknights is another story they can tell which is
WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS Exposition.

I love my cat women in it but jesus christ

>>718523842
If they were demolishing that bridge system on purpose and it was some kind of planned dominoes-like implosion that would actually be cool.

>>718521795
chinese games are much, much higher quality than japanese games nowadays. japanese ips coast off reputation and japanese are still way behind in tech skill, which they put such a large emohasis on now as opposed to creativity like they used to, and china has probably the most driven gaming industry full of people who actuallu have passion for their work

>>718523037
Maybe so but Japs evolved and cultivated a simple but beautiful and cool style that everyone in the world fell in love with.

Meanwhile all Chinaslop still looks like this

is originality a foreign concept in china?

>>718518579 (OP)
chinese mythology is straight up chinkslop

>>718518579 (OP)
No, South Korea is the new Japan.

>>718524082
Yeah who could forget the high production value of Wu"invisiable walls"Kong

>>718524141
that's like saying neoclassical style looks better than baroque (it doesn't)

Did Jiao-Fei Kei-Li sell out?!

>>718524082
>chinese games are much, much higher quality than japanese games nowadays
true

>>718520768
How far do you want me to go.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms is not at it's 14th title.

There about 10 Mobile versions of this and spinoffs like Sangokushi Koumeiden.

Suikoden - Based on the 108 Heroes Heroes of the Ming Dinasty from a novel called Water Margin, Sui - Water, Ko - Margin , Den - Chronicle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saiyuki_video_games - Same thing it's based on the Journey to the West

these chink games feel so inorganic. You can just tell that it's all just funded by the CCP for nationalistic propaganda. Like some kind of tourism agency trying to sell you a product.
And it's all either gacha trash or souls ripoffs.

>>718518926
Dude I like Japanese games and that is clearly not true

>>718524197
the moment game developers started pregtending invisible walls were one of the worst offenses they could commit is when gaming fell off a cliff and became an open world obsessed development hell shitshow

>>718524082
holy YIKES

>>718524624
Elden Ring, the game they copied, did fine without it.

>>718520945
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/鍾馗

Close but no

>>718524372
>>718520328
The real question you should ask yourself is where are all the Chinese video games about this stuff, not the Japanese making games about this. It wasn't until they got freedom of the internet recently that China could even pretend to have a video game culture, but so far all they've done is copied souls games and make gacha.

>>718524479
yeah absolutely
thats why its always a boring chinky myth setting

>>718524372
>uhm... here is YET ANOTHER RoTK game series by Koei (that nobody actually cares about btw) and uhm... Suikoden!
Really scratching the bottom of the barrel, zhangbro.

>>718524372
This was made by the Japanese though.

>>718524731
>it copied elden ring specifically and isn't just a general soulslike
i haye zoomers so much

>>718518579 (OP)
Fuck no, chinese games are shit and china has 0 culture to speak of

>>718522508
Nioh clone

>>718524724
>no argument
what, you think modern japanese games are good? name some

>>718518579 (OP)
Is the new GameScience going to be using UE as well?

I would be more interested in Chink games if they were more like 80's and 90's Honk Kong cinema.

>>718525246
You're not really reading our conversation are you.

>>718524961
Why should I ask myself about the blatantly obvious? What I'm asking myself is actually not about Commie Chinks it's about the Freedom Chinks.

Where are any Taiwanese games at all? All they do is indy shit. Taiwan is literally the last bastion of traditional Chinese culture but wheres my video games?

>>718525164
What you think games with 15 sequels per game are not popular or something?
Japanese gamers don't care for your western gayslop opinions.

>>718525468
Without even going into things like Elden Ring or Neir Automata, I can't think of any chineses game that is on the level of even something recent like Scarlet Nexus. But I don't consider gacha video games anymore than I consider those slot machines you see at shady gas stations as video games.

>>718518926
yeah i can't wait to play the next ffvii remake, the mgs 3 remake, trails in the sky remake...

>>718519876
That's the sad part. Japan does Chink culture better than Chinks do.

China is only capable of copying others. Japan pioneered and still continue to create new and original games. China only puts out souls clones and shitty live action dating FMVs. There may be a lot of money and decent talent in China but none of them are capable of creating anything new.

>>718520954
>>718518926
>>718518579 (OP)
Considering any and all artistic freedom in China is literally legit illegal 100% no, it's never gonna be like Japan, which is known only for it's positives world wide and china is known for... um... yeah, lol.

>>718525869
genshin is unironically a better implemented open world than anything out if japan both visually and functionally, as in every area feels like it has a purpose to revisit. i say this without even liking genshin, i can only think of rockstar games as having that level of attention given to such a large amount of playable area while feeling polished and having a bunch of other content. open world anywhere else is a massive waste of resources that could have gone to dungeons and further polish of meaningful cintent

>>718525683
>if they were more like 80's and 90's Honk Kong cinema.
You mean like John Woo? There was a Max Payne-clone on the ps2/gamecube that was pretty much a John Woo inspired.

New Geoff meme just dropped.

>>718524061
Even they realized it's a shithole and gtfo out of there

>>718526370
>i say this without even liking genshin
I'm sure you do, zhang!

>>718526598
you must be so happy that your world of warcraft main can now be a black trans woman in a wheelchair with the latest xpac

>>718522592
you sound unhinged and in need of medication

>>718526247
Plenty of Chinese games have blood, corpses and skeletons (including Wukong for example) so this list is bs

>>718527098
unrionically if your worldview went anywhere past the bubble of 4chan poltards you would know china hate is absolutely dying down from how it was a few years ago, since china keeos growing and nothing the news channels have been saying about the evil chinese dictators has happened while americans are continually seething at their own governments actions

>>718527498
yeah because it's government approved. That's the point of shithole countries with dystopian laws. They're not made for the gov but for you.

>>718526247
>Blood, gore, skeletons
Wukong, Wuchang (not part of censorship)
>Tibet, Taiwan, Winnie the pooh
No one cares
>Religion
Buddhism in Wukong
>LGBTQ, femboys
Genshin impact
>Gambling
Genshin impact
>Negative portrayals of China
Girl's Frontline
>Alternate history
Wuchang (patch 1.5 alters history even more)
>Feminism
Does not belong in video games
>Realistic warfare involving China
Really the only relevant point here
>Unrestricted gaming for teens
Applies to online games only

>>718518579 (OP)
China is now copying Japan. In turn Japan started copying the west.

So yes, in a twisted way.

>>718527596
>cope
Also americans can actually criticize their own gov unlike you.

>>718527767
see post above. if it's state approved it gets a pass. Normal chinese people aren't allowed to make anything.

>>718527697
So in other words Chinese games can have all that and you're just finding ways to seethe at them.

>>718528018
Anyone can get state approval.
You might have a point if state approval means you can't have blood, gore etc. but you admit that's not the case.

>>718528089
I accept your concession

>>718527912
>Also americans can actually criticize their own gov unlike you.
Americans can't protest against Israel without getting deported (even citizens are being deported lmfao).

>>718527912
i'm american, which is why i know that social media is full of people who shit on anti china rhetoric nowadays, even total normalfags can through the way old white dudes have been fearmongering for the past 5 years over things that never came true, while these normalfags also increasingly resent their government for things like ice raids, being israel's bitch, having a pedophile for president, etc

>>718527596
you sound panicked

>>718528227
You actually aren't denying you need state approval for your game to even exist. holy fuck.
>>718528342
>>718528393
Must've hit a nerve. Anyway feel free to post source for at least one person but I know you won't. What a bitch.

>>718518926
>please ignore the blatant nippon plagiarism of the 80s and 90s!

>>718521594
What the fuck?
This feels like a joke but it’s real.

>>718528587
no i'm just right and have the ability to explain why. you're wrong so you just keep insinuating that i'm crazy with zero arguments

>>718528342
Uh oh a melty!

>>718518579 (OP)
China does style over substance, that mindset will never create anything meaningful except for the lowest common denominator.

>>718526247
yikes

>>718528626
>you need state approval for your game to even exist.
Yes. Just like how you need a license to do most businesses, drive a car, sail a boat etc in almost every country.

>>718518579 (OP)
>ancient chinese soulslike #57341356 because the chinaman can't into creative thought
no

>>718528789
How's that relevant to American citizens getting deported to el Salvador for criticizing Israel?

>>718528342
>projection
chinese get disappeared by their gov all the time.

>jeets playing divide and conquer and tryjng to pit china and japan against each other
>meanwhile china and korea love each others games
i'm so glad i don't learn everything i know from 4chan

China gives out bribes to western journalists and Japan (outside of Sony) doesn't

Interesting arguments, however 动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>>718529000
>still no source
pussy

>>718529075
*china, japan and korea

>>718528896
Nigga free artistic expression and driving a car are not the same. That's a fucked way of thinking about it.

>>718518579 (OP)
>remake wukong 50,000 times with the same dead and soulless art style in dead and soulless UE5
no

>>718529120
>he's so butthurt he copy pasted the meme pasta like it's 2020 again

>>718529295
>free artistic expression
Lol

>>718519234
>Jesus fucking christ

STOP SAYING HIS NAME. China isn't infected by Christianity like Japan.

>>718529165
>Nooooo it's not real!

>>718529484
>>718529373
:)

>>718529413
>China isn't infected by Christianity like Japan.
Based

>>718518926
>Japan actually makes original games

>>718529165
>no source
Bend the knee to israel lapdog, your fallen empire can't be kept afloat without israel financial aid. You can't do shit against censored and removed video games. You can't do shit against Real ID.

You will follow the jew

>>718518926
holy shit look how much chang cope this post made

>>718529590
Christianity is allowed in China, but the Chinese censorship blocks Israel and Christianity and even Jewism from taking over Chinese government policies.

Donald Trump confirmed he believes in God and Israel, and Japan still preaches christianity in their videogames. For example, Elden Ring and Bloodborne both have churches, making christians feel like they have a home.

I'm going to stop that from happening. Christianity must be REPELLED from Asia. China is the last resort.

>>718529843
Nihon wa dark souls 1 kara shin na gensaku wo zenzen tsukuranakatta

>>718518579 (OP)
worse

i'd rather play black myth than whatever tranny coming of age story the west comes up with next

Japan is certainly going through a a creative crisis of sorts nowadays, but there are still some exceptions and plenty of Japanese games are still very creative and highly polished, even if the entire domestic industry is being undermined by slow corporate structures and silly trends. Having said that, we're long past the glory days of Japan when everything was new, exciting, extremely polished and the industry was pumping out cult hit after cult hit after cult it. There is much to be said on this but I will refrain.

China on the other hand simply fails for a huge variety of reasons. Firstly because they embraced gacha slop very earnestly because the CCP really wants that gacha tax. Secondly, China lacks an identity of its own, especially one that is marketable and pleasing to international audiences, so there is this very, very pathetic trend of them pretending to be Japanese, which is extremely off-putting. Finally, there is simply nothing valuable in the wider media space in China, there is no incredible cinema, there is no incredible literature, incredible graphic novels, etc. and certainly no incredible Chinese games. Why is China incapable of landing cultural victories? Everything either lacks bite and authenticity or there is this underlining mean-spiritedness that comes off as an inferiority complex.

I genuinely want to see great games and media in general from China. But they aren't doing anything at all. There is no Metal Gear Solid moment, no great RPG, not one single great platformer, nothing at all. It's all just so derivative and frankly inferior. And it feels like many of the Chinese industry's creative drive is being syphoned by gacha, which is so very tragic. It's very pitiable.

>>718518579 (OP)
>NEIIIGH

>>718528751
because it's difficult to prove a person is insane through the internet in a sentence or two. I could copy in every reply you've had in this thread and point to all the reasons I can see that something is off in your brain but nobody, including you, will want to sit here and read a rough draft thesis paper on why some random anon is a nut case.

Every time you play 3 attacks, gain 4 block.

>>718518579 (OP)
Chinese slop has no appeal outside of China where they force people to buy games and movie tickets to pump up numbers because like true turdies they're obsessed with big numbers and think that will convince first worlders of their superiority.

>>718530721
Anon, do not waste your time, you're either arguing with an unironic chink or some SEA creature with an axe to grind about Japan and/or """the West""". They will seethe forever on the Internet and there is no possible combination of words that you can post that will bring them to reason.

>>718530920
>Chinese slop has no appeal outside of China

this is based. Japan should continue to make games that only appeal to Japan and not the West.

China wins here you know.

>>718530920
Black Myth Wukong was such a sad, desperate moment where the entire Chinese population rallied behind that one game just to own the westoids. Such an embarrassing country.

>>718531017
China wants to replace Japan and the US as the top global soft power but it'll never happen because eveything China has ever made has been soulless. They have like 3 good novels in their entire history and those are all Ming creations, no revered works of art or music or theaer or any of it. They're artless and thus soulless and people pick up on this.

>>718531415
>China wants to replace Japan

America wants to replace and define Japan too.

Japan is under extreme pressure from the banks to censor their games for the West. What we need is for Japan to allow japanese loyalists to immigrate to Japan without a bachelor's degree and start rejecting DEI.

I also question your claim that chinese games are soulless. Wukong has soul in it. It gave me a freash breather from Christianity. it's a game featuring The Buddha. That's based. Buddhists will take whatever games they get.

>>718530973
it's so sad that low iq poltrannies like yourself think countries are teams you side with and attack/defend blindly out of fanboyism. you literally said nothing to explain why china was failing to become the next japan in the gaming industry and have just been seething

>>718531749
You are making a lot of tiresome assumptions and I will not entertain your drivel.

>>718531749
Apologies for doubleposting, but if you're so concerned about actual arguments, there are unironic effortposts ITT you can reply too instead of just doing the same old tired CHINESE CENTURY song and dance.

>>718518579 (OP)
They were the original, see the writing system.

>>718531635
>It gave me a freash breather from Christianity.
You don’t play many video games do you

>>718518926
Ah yes. Such original titles as Resident Evil: the 9th one in the series.
Silent Hill: the 9th one in the series.
Ninja Gaiden: the 7th one in the series.

>>718531017
>Japan should continue to make games that only appeal to Japan and not the West.
I don't think anyone can argue that Japanese games pack a much bigger cultural punch than Chinese ones.

>>718531635
>America wants to replace and define Japan too.
This is an interesting claim and I can't think of any immediate counterargument. Though this may be my usual cynicism about America clouding my judgement.
>Japan is under extreme pressure from the banks to censor their games for the West.
This will certainly be an unpopular opinion, but international scrutiny is a good thing for Japan. Maybe not in the current way banks are going about it, no, but of the worst characteristics of Japan in my opinion is their pandering to porn addicts. That isn't even low culture, that is simply debasing. And is something that Japan can and should grow out of.
>It gave me a freash breather from Christianity.
I genuinely have no idea what you mean by this.

>>718522429
>The problem with modoern China is that Mao's red guard destroyed and defaced most of their history during his cultural take-over. All that's left for the last 60 years culturally is nothingness (which is kind of the point of communism)
What the fuck are you talking about?

>they have had to latch onto Japan's culture
You mean the culture that is 90% Chinese export, down to writing their completely different language in Chinese characters while also importing tens of thousands of loanwords they can't even pronounce right?

>>718532036
what, the dumb "japan has interesting mythology and china doesn't" ignorance? the "japan created anime and china copies it so it doesn't count" cope? china makes shit loads of money already through just gacha, league of legends, and marvel rivals, and they are still going to expand by making more big studios. i have nothing against japan like you pretend i do, but they follow america's suit just like in so many other things, being an american vassal state that is groomed to idolize america, and they just make the same woke garbage that nobody wants with an emphasis on things like "maturity" over fun. chinese games are discussed daily on this board but faggots like you likely mentally filter them all and only see nintendo and eceleb threads.

>>718532635
As expected, you're merely interested in being mad. Again, I have no interest at all in this conversation. Enjoy the rest of your evening, anon.

>>718532635
mot to mention at this point japan is like america and just recycling everything that was made decades ago, so much for the creativity that poltards itt are raving about

>>718532801
comgrats on going the entire reply chain having made literally zero arguments and all projections. real smart stuff

>>718532813
Okay. So when is the "Japanese decade" happen for China? Where are the cultural exports? Why is China failing so miserably on this front?

I mean, yeah their games are shit by they are the sole supplier of good booba in games now
Maybe America could set up a booba OPEC with China, get some reliable production set up

>>718532986
Retards like you would see the river start to swell and still ask where's the flood everyone's talking about?

>>718532986
nigger i have a twitter just for following japanese artists and companies and my recommended feed is all japanese people talking about and drawing whatever yhe new gacha game update is that everybody is talking about. normalfaggots all love marvel rivals. tons of people still play league for some reason. everyone still usrs tiktok. what are you even talking about, "failing"? you are literally covering your ears and shutting your eyes and asking why you dont see or hear china in gaming discourse.

>>718533106
Gacha trash has no cultural permanency. This is also true of Japan. And the fact that you need to bring it up is very pathetic and you are failing to mask this fact behind your rudeness.

>>718533204
TikTok is simply a platform. It's like pointing at paper and saying that Egyptians rule the world because of it.

Marvel Rivals is indeed a good example, though I do not see it posted much in my feeds. But gacha garbage is utterly meaningless.

>>718518579 (OP)
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You whites already lost your country to browns and blacks. Stop seething at China

>>718533231
>Gacha trash has no cultural permanency. This is also true of Japan.
It's obviously not true. My Japanese coworker recognized genshin immediately but didn't even recognize pekora. If gacha isn't relevant then most anime, manga, vtubers etc aren't either.

>>718533432
the reason everything i said is relevant is because all of those things, except for league, have gotten people talking about how china seems to be capable of making good, or at least internationally popular, games. everything i said applies to korea too, they have stellar blade and their own popular gacha like nikke which are extremely popular, and can only grow from their current state. japanese developers are fucking over almost every major legacy series, every fighting games series, basically every jrpg series that isn't persona, and things like pokemon are comedically unpolished because again, japan at this point only cares about capitalizing off of reputation. korea, and especially china, making new ips, have no choice but to make high quality games. but japan at current is extremely complacent a low bar to step over

kash patel lmao

>>718533957
>It's obviously not true. My Japanese coworker recognized genshin immediately but didn't even recognize pekora.
I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove. Or how this is even an apples to apples comparison.
>If gacha isn't relevant then most anime, manga, vtubers etc aren't either.
Yes, I very much agree with that. You will find no controversy here. But that only benefits my original argument that China does not produce anything that is actually noteworthy while some Japanese cultural exports will stand the test of time.

>>718524178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RG__h-R5bs

>>718520328
All Chinese games are based on their big novels (three kingdoms, marsh bandits, journey to the west) or some abstract "cultivation" myth from hundreds of years ago.
Because any game made in current era China, or any time after the communist soulless take-over would be dystopian as fuck even if it was meant to represent the good parts of the CCP.
Literally every game made by a Chinese developer is an admission that modern China is a pile of shit.

>>718534083
I get your argument now. But perception doesn't always mean reality. And I'm coming from the standpoint of a hobbyist forum that is way more critical and scrutinising of media goods than the general normalfag audience that are unironically awestruck at LED cities.

If your argument is about reputation, yes, I will concede your point. I only argue that is wholly insufficient and that there is almost zero noteworthy Chinese cultural exports, especially compared to Japan at its peak. Heck, even compared to Japan today. Just compare Japanese cinema to Chinese cinema. A couple of years ago, Japan produced Perfect Days and it's a film about toilets, or the stunning adaptation of the Murakami novel Drive My Car. Meanwhile, the only real noteworthy Chinese cinema that wasn't produced in Hong Kong is either wuxia (much to be said on the political substance of movies like Hero, but hey) or international documentary darlings like Behemoth that exist only to seethe about China. It's bonkers.

>>718535791
It just got autosaged

>>718536191
... said the faggot, while necrobumping the thread back to page 1.

>>718536491
It’s just been revoked

>>718536619
No one is at fault for not understanding how imageboards work except you, anon.

>chink game
>it's just a worse version of a different game but reskinned to be some ancient chink story that their culture has been rehashing for hundreds of fucking years
>have to deal with turd worlders on /v/ seething about "westoids" and talking about how ching chong nip nong 3 is going to revolutionize the industry

>>718518579 (OP)
i wouldn't go that far, korea exists too and they've also done a big part in making japan irrelevant. in any case, it was always more that japan was the old china... that you had at home. people just didn't recognize this until the real china started coming back, and some of them choose to be bitter about it.

>>718522231
Taiwanese devs.
So yes, but eh...

Countries that have made at least one good game.

>>718518579 (OP)
China has all of japan’s worst qualities with none of the good ones.

>>718536898
You sound desperate :)

>>718539996
What?

>>718539021
Spain made Blasphemous. Portugal has some niche indie titles that are really nice.

>>718539305
This is a nice and succinct observation and I will be stealing it for future posting and if anyone asks I will say I was the genius who originally authored it.