Quake is dead.
It was never relevant.
It will never be relevant.
Halo was never in competition with it because there was nothing to compete with.
Wolfenstein,DOOM,Goldeneye, UT...hell even Perfect Dark-all are far better,far more influential and much more fondly remembered(remembered at all).
You lost.
>>718522472 (OP)
Halo was forced by Microsoft to kill PC gaming so they can take over the console market. Bungie intentionally deviated from what FPS was to dumb it down for retards. The series only started to get better with Infinite's campaign because Microsoft gave up on the franchise beating Call of Duty which meant Halo could start taking from the actual good FPSs that came before and during it. Doom 2016 was also a great help for this. A Half-Life 3 would also help Halo Studios with the future of Halo campaigns. Halofags are non-gamers who only play Halo and nothing else.
reminder that the 343 shills are so deperate that they take to calling the entire series "mid" when in reality most people agree that everything after Reach was absolutely shit and soulless. halo wars 2 was the only decent thing to come out of the series post 2010
>>718526846 >dumbing down the FPS genre
Yeah bro FPS before was for intellectuals ! Remember the big brain puzzles like put red key in red door! So smart!
>>718528475
Old FPS games focused on gameplay, they were video games first and foremost, not trying to be shitty movies.
>>718527039
But 343's garbage is worse because they're just copies of even more dumb down shooters. Halo Wars series are just dumb down RTS games. Why can't Microsoft make something that isn't just retard proof PC games?
>>718528897 >Old FPS games focused on gameplay
They were still for retards you dolt, real PC gamers scoff about low IQ genre known as FPS which dumbed down PC gaming for normie cattle
>>718528916 >steamie thinks steam charts are the only metric >meanwhile multiplatform games do better on xbox than steam
Xbox the white mans console, steam the thirdie brown platform
>>718531226
Lmao, when some plays doom for the first time everyone will tell them to play it on ultra violence. It's Brain dead easy, the halo games are more challenging than any doom game.
>>718531521
Halo CE is challenging, Halo 2 was known even by the developers to not be challenging but outright broken. Doesn't change the fact that Halo is a hallway of move forward to end game.
>>718532206
No, combat is just combat, you can come up with creative ways to kill your enemies but if combat is the only thing your FPS can do then it's a shit FPS game. FPS games that makes you think to give you a little break from combat while also making you explore are significantly better FPS games. Unreal's singleplayer in the 90s already did everything Halo CE's campaign did but they try to push Halo like it was this legendary series.
>>718522472 (OP)
When Halo was at its peak it was even more popular than Mario or Pokemon. The franchise was a global sensation that single handedly carried the Xbox brand on its own and changed game design forever with health regeneration. Online multiplayer, split screen single player, LAN party. This thing was the complete package and at a quality nobody could compete let alone match. It even offered excellent lore and a pretty decent story too. Halo was a 1 of a kind game franchise that nobody could copy even if they wanted and MS drove it into the ground. Their golden gooze. Gaming before and after Halo were 2 very different worlds.
>>718532457
Ok doom is good not because it's combat is good but because you walk around more, got it. Silly me thinking combat was the most important thing. Now tell me how dogshit quake 3 is because it's nothing but combat and no down time or any other multi-player focused shooters like UT. People stopped caring about that design so it was phased out.
>>718533738
That's the thing though, Doom has superior combat to Halo as well. Bungie was wrong when it comes to game design, that's why their franchise died and has to find new ground to stand on. I'm also exclusively talking about singleplayer, not multiplayer. I never cared for multiplayer, and I heavily believe the multiplayer is to blame for why the Halo series went under in the first place.
Halo 1 Legendary is slightly on par with Heroic from other Halo games due to your non-shield hp being so high. Halo 2 Legendary is straight up not fun because it's insanely hard. Halo 3/Reach Legendary is a good ol' challenge.
>>718534212
Halo was at its peak was bigger than doom ever was. Modern doom is unrecognizable from classic doom thats how it survives as a franchise nowadays, and no one gave a shit about dark ages.
>>718534730 >Halo was at its peak was bigger than doom ever was
Who cares, popularity is why AAA games are dying now. It should be popular because it was an actual good game, not because Microsoft paid money behind closed doors to artificially push it to popularity paying everyone off to call it the replacement to other shooters.
>>718535453
Like a tsunami, time works in waves. The magnitude of Halo, particularly 3 literally displaced the timeline. They could have had glowniggers come to every school the day after it came out to tell students about an actual alien invasion and no one would have cared.
>>718535589 >14.5 million copies >forge >wii >MLG >Finish the fight
So no you're wrong
>>718535782 >this retard still plays Halo for the multiplayer even woke ass era
I'm glad this series is finally splitting the campaigns and multiplayer into their own separate games.
>>718534495 >Halo 1 Legendary is slightly on par with Heroic from other Halo games due to your non-shield hp being so high.
Youβre a liar. CE Legendary is hard as fuck, sometimes as bad as 2
>>718536712 >Retconning Forerunners and their relationship to humanity
That sin alone permanently puts Halo 4 on my shitlist but I can go on about how much the campaign infuriates me... but I won't just to ask: What about it was "kino"?
>>718534632
DOOM is 100x more reptitive, you can post a Halo level and people know where it is but a DOOM image all looks the same and you wont know what map it is