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Anonymous No.718527241 >>718527369 >>718527927 >>718532685 >>718532734
It's time we come together and finally decide - is THPS4 a good game or a bad game?
Anonymous No.718527369 >>718527876 >>718529434
>>718527241 (OP)
peak of the series
Anonymous No.718527507
If I use the slomo cheat to help beat some of the pro goals, did I still beat the game?
Anonymous No.718527876 >>718528364 >>718529434 >>718530082
>>718527369
thps peaked at THPS3
thps4 is where it started going downhill
thug games were alright, but mostly for the popculture stuff. Playing it back then with my brother after watching Jackass was hilarious. These days they feel somewhat outdated
American Wasteland did something new and kind of perfected that post THPS4 formula. After that it was a downhill run until THPS1+2 brought the series back

but to be honest we are never going back. Skating culture is kind of dead. Gen Z loves the old y2k era vibe, but zoomer culture is too different to make skating series such a huge hit again. plus the zoomer alt cultures are kind of splintered between different groups
Anonymous No.718527927 >>718529113
>>718527241 (OP)
SO HERE I AM
Anonymous No.718528054 >>718528485 >>718531029 >>718532803
Everyone hated it until the remaster was announced, then suddenly /v/ did the clockwork contrarian 180 and cried that the remaster is shit because it changed the original (which was near-universally hated beforehand)
Anonymous No.718528364 >>718532794
>>718527876
>thps4 is where it started going downhill
This was. Downhill. Get it lol. Also where the series started getting bad.
Anonymous No.718528485 >>718529585
>>718528054
>which was near-universally hated beforehand
I think you're living in a different reality. Everybody I knew loved it back in the day. The remaster wasn't as bad as everybody here said either but it was a little disappointing. I 100%ed all the maps and it was fine.
Anonymous No.718529113 >>718529202
>>718527927
DOIN EVERYTHING I CAN
Anonymous No.718529202 >>718529365
>>718529113
HOLDIN ON TO WHAT I AM
Anonymous No.718529332 >>718529495 >>718529853
can anyone explain how these games were supposed to played? I mean THPS1, 2 and 3. The gameplay format of the career mode is weird as fuck to me. Why is there a timer? There are some goals that require you to explore the level... but you never get time to explore it. The score goals are ridiculously easy to get, but then you just keep pressing retry to try to find some hidden letter or something

what was the dev's intention with this?
Anonymous No.718529365
>>718529202
PRETENDIN I'M A GARBAGE MAN
Anonymous No.718529434 >>718532706
>>718527369
/thread
>>718527876
NO THUG is when it went downhill.
THPS4 is a natural evolution. By the time 3 released the timer and goal system was already stale. There was no need to have a timer and the goals be all the same.
Anonymous No.718529495 >>718530041
>>718529332
It was when arcade style games were the norm. You keep pressing retry to find some hidden letter because that's how they made the game longer with the hardware limitations of the time
Anonymous No.718529585 >>718529627 >>718531029
>>718528485
>my anecdotal evidence is correct, all the reviews are wrong
okay
Anonymous No.718529627
>>718529585
>>my anecdotal evidence is correct, all the reviews are wrong
Yes.
Anonymous No.718529853 >>718530041
>>718529332
THPS1-3 follow arcade style design, you play a couple short sessions, maybe play a session with a friend
THPS4 is like the first time they actually made it more of a actual sit down at home game.
The premise behind the timer is that it's supposed to feel hectic like getting the shots for a skateboarding video.
Anonymous No.718530041
>>718529495
>>718529853
huh. Very interesting. I played them back in the day as a kid but i never really gave it much thought until now.
Anonymous No.718530082 >>718531141
>>718527876
>American Wasteland did something new and kind of perfected that post THPS4 formula
Bull goddamn shit, it's just THUG with a tryhard story and worse levels.
Anonymous No.718531029
>>718528054
>>718529585
>spy-fag is a gaslighting troll
lmao
Anonymous No.718531141 >>718532391 >>718532816
>>718530082
>try-hard story
but enough about THUG 2, or as I like to call it, Jackass for babies.
Anonymous No.718532391 >>718532504
>>718531141
I hate Bam but the dumbass story serves to showcase the big ass levels, which are absolutely packed with content. A lot of the objectives are pretty good too aside from the dumbass vehicle shit. Meanwhile most of the levels and objective in THAW suck aside from the casino and the finished Skate Ranch.
Anonymous No.718532504
>>718532391
>memory holed all the on-foot/tagging and object throwing
>memory holed the guest characters with worse stats and are just janky vehicles have the time
I'd do the BMX missions from THAW before playing as Johnny, the Wheelchair kid and Voodoo guy again. AT least THAW is focused around your custom skater, THUG 2 doesn't even have the same focus as THUG 1.
Anonymous No.718532567
we came together and decided it was shit in 2003. I've literally never seen any defense ran for it beyond at best "alcatraz was kinda neat I guess" until the remake was announced, which combined with how all the other discourse around it reeks of tortanic-seekers, makes me seriously doubt anybody saying it's their favorite all of the sudden.
Anonymous No.718532685
>>718527241 (OP)
thps4 should have had the janky off board movement that THUG had. that shit is a QoL addition not a gameplay feature. Same shit with Skate 1. why can't I go up these fucking stairs without setting a marker?

Skateboarding games will always be cursed by the retardation of the devs assigned.
Anonymous No.718532706 >>718532897
>>718529434
>THPS4 is a natural evolution. By the time 3 released the timer and goal system was already stale. There was no need to have a timer and the goals be all the same.
Turning it into an RPG wasn't the only way they could have evolved the series though it did need to evolve to stay competitive. You could have made it into one of these new age dungeon crawlers, though that's easy to say 20 years later and the RPG mechanic was clearly a commercial success at least. Making it into a skatepark crawler would have I think worked better with the arcade pacing.
Anonymous No.718532734
>>718527241 (OP)
why wouldn't it be good?
Anonymous No.718532794
>>718528364
do you think he knew?
Anonymous No.718532803
>>718528054
It's more that it cut major amounts of content from the original, some of it being the best content from that game. The remaster isn't bad, but people had a right to complain for once.
Anonymous No.718532816 >>718533029
>>718531141
nigga how is the story to THUG2 "tryhard" it's about as far removed from taking itself seriously as humanly possible
Anonymous No.718532897 >>718533795
>>718532706
the thing is, that structure fits skateboarding a lot better than the 2 minute time attack. You skate around and look at spots and maybe do a kickflip if you're really cool and then do stupid challenges your friends come up with.

It's a better skateboarding game that the first 3 for that reason alone. And it can still have 2 minute challenges within the new structure
Anonymous No.718533029 >>718533116
>>718532816
It's the same league as Invader Zim with how whacky it can get, but also THAW literally starts out with you getting protesters killed via a dinosaurs head, I don't see how that's "try-hard" in the serious direction. I'd argue THAW and THUG 1 are tonally similar, THUG 2 is retarded in it's story. New-Orleans is practically a Halloween map just given to you.
Anonymous No.718533116 >>718533230
>>718533029
THAW is closer to THUG 2 than 1 man sorry
NTA
Anonymous No.718533230 >>718533461
>>718533116
In terms of themes? Not at all, THUG 2 is more spectacle than both, and that's including the Moscow/Hawaii stuff in THUG 1, that's about as crazy as that game gets, same with the custom skat park the crew in THAW are making.
You literally create a pit to Hell and spawn Zombies in 2, it's night and day. You play as Big Foot for fucks sakes.
Anonymous No.718533313 >>718533359
THAWfags are the Sonicfags of Tony Hawk games
Anonymous No.718533359
>>718533313
>we value movement over anything
based?
Anonymous No.718533461 >>718533583
>>718533230
The thing I really thing happened is that they had a genuine idea for THUG, were assigned a crazy story that they could do for 2, and then by THAW the writing team just didn't know what to do.
It couldn't be another am to pro story, it couldn't be another filmed spectacle story...
uhhh just make it a farm boy who becomes a street rat. you get a literal gang tattoo and fuck up a casino in that game. It's just as bizarre but for slightly different reasons
Anonymous No.718533583 >>718533739
>>718533461
You're literally kidnapped from Jersey to join THUG 2's campaign. Again, where Bam considers a crippled kid that spouts curse words a lot, and plays like a shitty car. What you described sounds fucking tame in comparison.
Anonymous No.718533739 >>718533823
>>718533583
ok you win I'm killing myself for real this time
Anonymous No.718533795
>>718532897
Part of that yes, that's why I call it an RPG. If you want to roleplay as a skater (as opposed to just playing a game where you skate) then THPS4 did hit the mark.
But I don't think the time attack is totally alien to skating. Comes off to me as an adaption of lines and making skate videos. An adaption to games because the relatively basic and short lines you can do in real life aren't very exciting in videogames so make them two minutes long and fill the level with semi realistic props that are bizarrely conducive to skating. Also you have to make the whole skate video in one cut.
And yes, you can have time attacks within the RPG structure of THPS4, which is why RPG and open world structures became so endemic in that time period, you ended up being able to give the player a smorgasbord of content, though the content didn't always fit together as well (map design in THPS4 suffered a bit, hangar and foundry are still the best maps in the series) and the game having to accommodate each mechanic/mode meant that if you DID want the pure THPS3 arcade experience, you of course are going to get a sub-par experience in THPS4.
Anonymous No.718533823
>>718533739
Play the Disney Skateboarding game instead, with pro-controls turned on.