Thread 718529685

The end of exclusive is bad actually

it's not bad in a sense that finally pclards will stop kvetching about consoles for a moment
it is bad in a sense that it doesn't really matter when the industry is about to collapse

I don't see the point of this.

Halo MCC on consoles is pointless because the Steam version offers mod support, while Halo Infinite was also considered a disappointment. Meanwhile who's even sticking by their Xbox-Series whatever at this point for Spider-Man?

>>718529685 (OP)
No it's not. I want the great vidya crash/reset to happen already.

snoys get to finally experience a fun fps.

>>718529685 (OP)
Im sure all two xbox owners are happy about spiderman

>>718530106
except turdtendo is not gonna crash anytime soon.

>>718530106
there will be no crash. Accelerationism is a lie. The video game market is in the South Africanization phase. Permanent decline and decay with no reset.

>>718529685 (OP)
I want Nathan Drake Collection on Xbox. I dont give a fuck about soiderman.

bad for who? the corporations?
cause it sure as fuck isn't for the consumer
i'd love to see the day where 100% of the games are released natively on pc, maybe even linux
that effectively strips the reason to ever buy any console down to just being myopic goycattle

>>718533032
enjoy indies and AAAslops because there is zero reason to invest in AA games now

>>718529685 (OP)
>I was so grateful for having to buy one of each platform to play games

>>718529685 (OP)
>Nooo I want to be a console war faggot for the rest of my life!
Eat shit and die, faggot. Meanwhile the rest of us will enjoy all of the games together no matter what system we choose. Its going to be fun seeing Helghast and ODSTs running around together next week in Helldivers 2

>>718533324
exclusives exist only because the studio is either enslaved by a console corpo or being bribed by them
making ports in this day and age costs less than ever and no developer is passing up that money unless the publisher forced them to

>>718529685 (OP)
Oh no your piece of shit plastic is worthless, big fucking deal faggot kill yourself

>>718529685 (OP)
>example of an Xbox game is a franchise that hasn't been good in nearly 18 years
>example of a PS game is a franchise that is licensed

Grim

>>718533717
Infinite campaign was the best since reach and tired of pretending it not. The multi-player is ass though

>>718533593
kill me yourself, coward

>>718529685 (OP)
Snoys and Xbros are homies now.

>>718533796
That is such a fucking low bar it is comical. 5 was so bad it killed the series and 4 wasn't much better

>Nintendo does nothing
>Wins

In fucking credible

>>718529685 (OP)
Death to consoles. Shitty pre built locked down trash.

>that tendie Eric doing 2 threads of this shit
fanbase of peace they said

>>718529685 (OP)
I think the funniest thing about this is that we all know Nintendo aren't going to allow a single fucking thing to slip through their fingers cause in an anti-consumer competition Nintendo just needs to come in first place.

>>718530017
Honestly, it would probably sell well on Xbox and just because ps5 is btfoing Xbox doesn't mean 30 million buyers don't exist and yeah they'll pay for it even if it's not on gamepass.

Fuck you for posting this fake ass image. I just want it to happen already! How long does it realistically take to port Halo MCC to PS5. Come onnnnnnnn

>>718533927
nintendo wins
the consumer sure as fuck doesn't
literally every single gpu and console released in the past 5 years could run their shit better than their toys
only the most ideologically captured shareholder larping tendies see this as a victory

>>718532773
That could be said about pretty much everything now

>>718530017
I'm specifically going to buy Halo on PS5 cause I'm a trophy fag.

>>718534310
>Snoy gets to do LASO
Lol. Enjoy

>>718529685 (OP)
>4 mid games at best
What's the point of this?

>>718534447
I will thank you. The irony is I literally have a PC that can run everything but I only play PC only games like Factorio and RTS/4X games cause I just enjoy playing shit to get my trophies. It's comforting to me. If I really like a game and want to try it with mods I'll just pirate it again. I can't lose cause I have fun playing video games that I love.

>>718534006
Nintendo is always 10-15 years behind everyone so I expect by 2040, they'll start releasing their games on PC.
Remember the idea of them selling paid DLCs and season passes used to be absurd? Now look at them.

>>718534447
Doing LASO was genuine torture

>>718534146
this
if a game can run on a 5080 or anything below it it's literally ps3 slop
fuck tendies for holding the industry back

>>718534146
This is /v/ a certified Nintendo board. There are no other console war fanboys left her except Nintendo fanboys.

>>718534650
hardware requirements are not indicative of quality or fun in any way

>>718534956
In fairness, Nintendo is the only one these days that even pretends to give the fans what they want.

>>718535028
enjoy your fisher price tablet for toddlers

>>718535091
>Nintendo is the only one these days that even pretends to give the fans what they want.
Case in point, we have a retard, calling the literal single most anticonsumer video game company in the entire world, so vile it makes EA look like a charity a company that "give the fans what they want". This isn't fanboyism at this point it's literal cult behaviour. This level of delusion goes beyond simple fanboyism and steps into pure indoctrination. Does someone have a gun to your head typing this post?

>>718529685 (OP)
these games are old as fuck
MCC released over a decade ago

>>718535181
but i don't have one nor will i ever have one
the industry is moved by ideas and great execution not a diminishing returns amount of polygons and handing off lighting rendering to the users

>>718533593
>my plastic has even more games
This is a bad thing?

>>718535241
They actually make games and don't just make GAAS slop and tv shows. Pretty much everything bad they do the others do too. The only thing truly uniquely bad about Nintendo is that they rarely discount their 1st parties and that itself is mostly a showing of how people actually want and continue to buy their games instead of the one and done blockbusters that nobody cares about after 3 months.

>>718535680
the bad thing about them is that they want you to play their games on hardware that's measurably dogshit in every way and they demand a premium for it
an ips screen that ghosts worse than any va
a battery on par with phones
controllers worse than every single third party chinkware with none of the advances of tech
an soc made on two generations old silicon
port their games onto anything else and they'd play better

>>718534595
If anything they'll just start making games for phones again. Releasing anything on Xbox/Playstation makes no sense when they're dying

Exclusives are good because they allow for a company to take full advantage of a system's hardware without having to worry about optimization for other specs. The industry has thrown that to the wind with "pro" models and everything being multiplat and designed for PC release 6-12 months after original launch anyway, so it literally doesn't matter.
No one actually makes games for specific hardware, everything is designed to be everywhere from day 1.

>>718536085
Anon you can cope as much as you want but Xbox/Playstation is still the single largest overall gaming market in the entire world. PC is going to overtake it eventually but it hasn't happened yet. Nintendo absolutely would benefit from releasing their games on PS5/Xbox. The only reason they don't is cause they're retarded and are terrified of their shit boxes not selling.

>>718536187
This is cope. The only reason optimisation has gotten worse is cause of shitty engines and lazy/incompetent devs. Plenty of devs can make a smooth running game that looks good and runs on shitty hardware. Devs these days are just incompetent. You god damn industry shill.

>>718536187
so instead of being able to play a game at 120 fps on pc through brute force i should be interested in buying a console because le developer magic that somehow only manifests when the game is exclusive will take the framerate on a console from 40fps to 50fps?
this is cope, on pc you're fundamentally just looking at ryzen and intel core in terms of cpu architectures and 3 generations from nvidia and amd each and even then they do most of the voodoo work, not the devs
there is no le billions of permutations, all the silicon within the same generation is self similar

>>718536520
no, nigger, I said no one designs anything that way and haven't since gen 6. There's no point because everything is going to be poorly optimized because they have to aim for the lowest common denominator (series S) as the baseline.

>>718529685 (OP)
SPIDERMAN IS GAY AS FUCK
MASTER CHIEF IS COOL AS FUCK

PS5 doesn't have a single game I want
this is pointless

>>718536596
designing that way just means stripping as much shit down without the user noticing and then forcing everyone to use that preset
it's called options on pc, there is no console magic here

>>718536076
Their hardware is still the cheapest on the market. and $700 is absolutely premium. It's not like most games use all that shiny graphics anyway.

PS and Xbox don't even have screens and batteries.

This applies to official PS and Xbox controllers that don't use hall effect sticks either.

Stronger PC handhelds are much more expensive. The home consoles can't be portable. and are chained to a TV/Monitor thus require additional hundreds of dollars.

>>718536780
>there is no console magic here
There totally is. How else do you explain Sony/Microsoft managing to convince the people that purchase their products that the console they're buying is anything other than a really shitty PC?

It's incredible how the usual suspects will shit on Nintendo for not having 1 gazillion teracocks games/consoles and call everything slightly unique or different they try to do a gimmick but at the same time long for the PS1/PS2 days
Guys, you are part of the problem

>>718533582
>and no developer is passing up that money unless the publisher forced them to
nta but tell that to Vanillaware. They refuse to release anything on PC despite Atlus going out of their way to port most of their library.

>>718536939
being the cheapest doesn't count for shit when they're offering you hardware a quarter as powerful for $50 less

>>718536776
Xbox has some games I want so sucks to be you I guess.

>>718537574

Of course being the cheapest matters when we're talking about what's best for consumers. Video game platforms aren't just for dissecting specs and graphics cards. Switch 2 offers the cheapest portability that can still feasibly play current gen games and it still being the cheapest console on the market is absolutely a draw for most consumers.
Steam Deck OLED is more expensive while being less powerful because it offers more things beyond that. Meanwhile PS and Xboxes can't even be portable despite costing even more. Specs aren't the end-all-be-all.
Nintendo is also the system that's the least censor-happy of third parties which is the most anti-consumer thing a platform publisher can be.

>>718529685 (OP)
>Sonya gets tons of kino from the MCC
>Xbox gets woke capeslop
The worst trade deal in history, maybe ever.

>>718529685 (OP)
>friendship with nintendo ended now sony is my best friend

>pirate
>put it on a DVD/usb/hard drive
whats your move now, corporate goylems?

>>718529685 (OP)
Why. Explain Why. Only thing bad to me is that Nintendo hasn't and won't do it anytime soon.

>>718533032
>bad for who? the corporations?
>cause it sure as fuck isn't for the consumer
It's objectively bad for the consumer to not have exclusives. The only people who are against exclusives tend to be people who refuse to buy (or can't afford) more than one system. Exclusives allow for niches to form on the various systems that otherwise wouldn't have formed without them allowing for smaller companies to take hold and find success they otherwise wouldn't have because of how popular certain genres or brands become on that system. JRPGs on Sony platforms is an extremely simple example here.

You can even directly see an example of this actively helping companies and brands in modern times with Yakuza, Persona, and Nier. Those three brands specifically exploded in popularity because of their exclusivity to Sony platforms. They released games in a period where people had no real first parties to get and no big names to get on the PS4 so people started going after third-party games that were releasing on the system and that's what caused a major explosion in purchases and rocketed those brands to heights they never had before.

Another simple example is when the Switch 1 launched the lack of competition there allowed for indies and other brands to get a foothold that were struggling on Steam. They were able to find a market and make new games to target that market when they otherwise would have been dead on Steam due to how short of a presence they have there.

You as a consumer gain constant competition between the first parties to get you on their platform in the first place, and because of that competition smaller companies can find their niches in those ecosystems to foster brand new games to form. Hell, the Vita is a great example because it fostered all the low budget Japanese games which now moved over to the Switch ecosystem. It's why Sony going PC will devalue their brand in the long run and why it's beyond stupid to port anything off.

>>718539652
>games being less available helps them get more popular
2 more weeks trust the plan tier reasoning

>>718530017

Halo Infinite is a very fun game, all the complaints were about a lack of multiplayer content which hasn’t been true anymore for like 3 years now

>>718540538
Yes? Many games are only popular because of their exclusivity, all the first-party games are a great example. Horizon is the posterchild for a game which has an unwarranted popularity and sales simply because it was a Sony product and when you go multiplat like the Lego game showed less people showed up because it doesn't have the same allure despite Lego games' market being on Nintendo platforms typically. We've also directly seen Insomniac's leaks of PC sales figures showing they're selling maybe 500k-1 million copies at most from porting them off with few exceptions like Days Gone and Ghost of Sushi so they're generally not gaining a massive sales bump from becoming multiplat at all.

When it comes to third-parties it allows tons of smaller companies to find a foothold due to the smaller ecosystem they have to compete with.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/11/indie_devs_explain_why_their_games_are_successful_on_nintendo_switch
Simple example here is the fourth indie dev who outright stated local co-op isn't a thing on PC.

You gain multiple advantages for being exclusive to a system from constant promotion by that platform for being an exclusive, the ability to have more visibility from selling digitally (and physically) due to the smaller ecosystem, and the ability to rise up to the top as I've literally told you happened with Yakuza, Nier, and Persona. Three brands that only became bigger than they ever were because of a dearth of games on PS4 and they released during said dearth.

>>718530106
You zoomers are legitimately retarded.

>>718529685 (OP)
why even buy a console nowadays

>>718540981
so your argument is pretending console loyalism and console corpo favoritism are good?

So both Sony and MS decided to become third party like Sega.
Therefore Nintendo won.

We were in a weird situation where PC was getting everything and PS and Xbox were getting half of the games anyway.

>>718541654
You can literally read my two posts of arguments instead of ignoring them for your own biases against exclusivity. Niches good, being able to rise because of smaller ecosystems good, competition good, actively fostering new brands and games good, etc. Multiplats starve competition because smaller companies have a harder time gaining visibility, niches can't reliably form because of the larger pool of games they compete with, new genres have a harder time taking hold unless a major brand is making them, etc.

>>718533032
Exclusives used to be extremely good for the consumers. Console makers were trying to make the best games they could so people would buy their console, even if it meant making something that will lose money. Having shit games meant that people would just buy the other consoles, like what happened to xbox.
Of course that all went out the window when they saw shit games making billions

nintendo shareholders are not going to just stay silent after this move, i predict at least pokemon going multiplat some day simply because they have to please the antsy "line must go up" shareholders

Instead of seeing a bunch of exclusives you wanna play and buying into the system you need, now you just play the ports even if it is a little inferior. Overall, it does negatively impact the industry because less money is being spent. Sure, some people have nintendo, pc, xbox and playstation but it is rare for someone to have more than 2

>>718542018
you're quite literally arguing from the point of view of the corporation
the consumers gain nothing from how popular a game is or from the game being shilled by a console corporation if it's all a fucking ploy to get them to buy into an ecosystem

>>718529685 (OP)
Its great for the user, terrible for the corpos believe it or not

>>718529685 (OP)
This trade doesn't seem fair. Spiderman 1 is the only decent thing there,

>>718542148
Releasing their exclusives outside of their platform might kill them considering they have the weakest hardware. There's no point, Pokemon is not gonna sell another 30 million for launching on the Netflix FIFA box.

>>718542148
lol that'll only happen if Nintendo games not just stops continuing to handily outsell MS and Sony games but also stop outprofiting them.
Nintendo shareholders know that their hardware sales which are the most profitable hardware in the industry is carried by their exclusives.

>>718542606
Literally everything I have argued was from the point of a consumer. Everyone gets access to more games, more unique IPs, more competition, and more innovation if exclusives exist. Please explain why everyone having access to all games makes competition easier when it makes it harder for games to exist at all?

>>718530106
That's what's already happening but what will be left is Nintendo, Valve, AAs, and indies.

>>718533796
>Best since Reach
You do know the competition is fucking 4 and 5 right

>>718529685 (OP)
the illusion of choice is dwindling

>>718543672
did you get your wires crossed
>access to more games
rethink this one carefully
how in the world could you possibly arrive at the conclusion that putting up entry barriers ends up with the consumer having more games
>more unique ips
if a game is on every platform even if it fails the profits from having it everywhere will inherently give it more staying power
being on multiple platforms gives it a higher chance of blowing up and if it does it's raking in money everywhere
>more competition
ah yes, competition is when there's no competition because you have to play the game on the one vendor that lets you play it
brilliant
>more innovation
innovation is born from ideas, not from fucking consoles
every single console is now 2 thumbsticks, a directional pad, abxy buttons and triggers
there's no innovation here, nintendo has in fact gotten lazier since they own all their ips so they don't have to try

>>718529685 (OP)
Considering Xbox and PS will kill themselves by not having exclusives I'd say it gets at pass this time.

>>718534146
Cope bitch, Sony and Microsoft wanted to be PCs now they're PCs. Neither company should have ever entered the console industry.

>>718529685 (OP)
It's just an admission that first party studios are sludge factories now and killer-apps no longer exist.

Well, except for Nintendo.

>>718530106
>>718532773
You're living the crash

>2012-2015 has the death of creativity
>2018-2020 has the budget implosion
>2022-current time has the collapse of everyone making games the wrong way
>Studio closures, mass layoffs and general contraction
It's going to be funny when the end comes.

>>718529685 (OP)
I glanced at this real quick and I was sure it said "white power unleashed". I'm not even that racist

What if: consoles competed with one another not by arbitrarily tying video games to their box but by attempting to make better boxes?

>>718530106
>>718532773
>Here's your Truth nuke for the day
The video game market is huge and you're not a part of it

>>718544537
if nintendo's consoles weren't worthless they wouldn't be rabidly fighting emulation
that's a damning admission despite their record high profits

>>718529685 (OP)
Sony and Microsoft wanted to be retards, meanwhile Nintendo and PC will still have forever exclusives not coming anywhere else.

>>718529685 (OP)
>I've finally lived to see Halo on Playstation
Amazing days we live in.
Your move, Tendies.

>>718534310
I'm so glad that I got out of the trophy/achievement mindset after the 360 gen, made me enjoy vidya so much more instead of going after autistic checklists

>>718533032
>bad for who? the corporations?
>cause it sure as fuck isn't for the consumer
It IS bad for the consumer, in reality it's bad for everyone. There's a simbiotic relation between the manufacturer of hardware & software, exclusives, market and the consumer. Break this chain's balance and things begin to go south

But you'll ignore it despite living in times with this balance being off

>>718544769
Emulation compared to the hardware it was built for. You piratefags are the ones that nearly killed PC gaming from the 6th gen to the 7th gen leading those trash heaps called the PlayStation and Xbox taking over.

>>718544863
This, I even put that shit ignore and private on the Steam Deck, so I don't have to be bothered with it. again, fuck Microsoft.

>>718542606
You're coping too much; not every player in videogames is a corporation; only PS and Xbox are backed behind those as well shitty multiplat handlers like EA.

>>718544537
>Cope bitch, Sony and Microsoft wanted to be PCs now they're PCs
*now they're being abosrbed by PC

Sony never wanted to be PCs before the shitfest that PS3 was. From PS1 they were all about bringing game experiences not usual on consoles at the time; and they succeded to a fair extent in that philosophy. See the monkey ad for PS1

>>718544420
>how in the world could you possibly arrive at the conclusion that putting up entry barriers ends up with the consumer having more games
Did you completely ignore every post I've made so far that you yourself have replied to? You get more games because companies that otherwise wouldn't have succeeded in an open market with major competition never would have gotten more recognition or their games picked up by niches that formed in the exclusive communities giving you access to more new IPs and brands. You also gain all the first parties competing with each other for your money and attention by constantly having to think outside the box to attract more people to their platform.
>if a game is on every platform even if it fails the profits from having it everywhere will inherently give it more staying power
Completely incorrect as directly shown by the indies on Switch 1's release who failed hard on Steam but got a second life on an exclusive platform. Many many companies are outright having issues getting off the ground focusing on the wider market of Steam for example compared to consoles. Balatro and Palworld are exceptions to the rule, not the norm.
>competition is when there's no competition
Competition that appears because everyone has to fight to get you on their platform in the first place. Why the hell do you think Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft even make games in-house over just doing things like Valve does with Steam? Let's also not ignore competition within these exclusive platforms such as Squeenix vs. Bamco in Final Fantasy vs. Tales of games as a very simple example where they fought on both the Sony and Nintendo fronts.
>innovation is born from ideas, not from fucking consoles
Innovation is born from ideas that form because niches exist on platforms that companies can reliably target. You aren't going to be making a JRPG for the Xbox because the market isn't there. Microsoft had to fund them to try to force that niche there.

>>718540981
>We've also directly seen Insomniac's leaks of PC sales figures showing they're selling maybe 500k-1 million copies at most from porting them off with few exceptions like Days Gone and Ghost of Sushi so they're generally not gaining a massive sales bump from becoming multiplat at all.

they're literally charging full price for years old games that costs way less to port over than making brand new titles

if they wanted huge sales on PC they would release shit day 1 (as seen with helldivers 2) but they're clearly happy with doing delayed ports still

>>718544893
no there isn't
making the game work on a system is a tiny fraction of the game's development cycle
consoles used to be unique mystery meat that required more effort in the past but now? the exclusivity bribe money is drying out and all the consoles are amd and nvidia, you're basically accidentally developing this shit for multiplat and it doesn't take much to make it work everywhere and the payoff is huge

>>718529685 (OP)
I like how halo 5 is always completely ignored and to this day is still the only noteworthy xbox one-only game

>>718545105
True, it's sad to see how Microsoft's cancerous influence destroyed Sony's gaming sector completely. Nintendo and Valve took all the games that used to come exclusively to PlayStation. Microsoft fucked up so hard that the games that came to Xbox Live Arcade also went to Nintendo and Valve, I mean the types of games. Good riddance to both, especially Microsoft. For them, it's pure karma.

>>718545269
>no there isn't
Here's the most simplified route

Manufacturer makes console > doesn't have games > doesn't sell > market dies > nobody makes consoles and games > consumer doesn't get anything

>>718533796
>Infinite campaign was the best since reach
Hard disagree. The whole thing was a massive disappointment with only one biome and no set pieces or proper cutscenes. The gameplay itself is fine but the guns all sound lame as shit and the headshot kill sounds don't belong outside of multi-player at all. The graphics were shit too.

>>718545269
>consoles used to be unique mystery meat that required more effort in the past but now?
More effort actually, 3D development made game development far more layered and convoluted.

>>718545345
In all honestly Sony caused its own demise with Kutaragi in charge, not Xbox despite all the damage Xbox alone did to gaming itself

>>718535550
Ask OP

I WILL SAY MY PIECE NOW AND YOU WILL ALL LISTEN AND THAT WILL BE END OF THREAD

Exclusives are STUPID because all systems are basically the same now and can easily be ported from one to another.
Unless you are Nintendo fan in which case you are VERY VERY STUPID for paying $500 (Five-Hundred United States Dollars) for 10 (Ten) year-old hardware

>>718540970
(also the removal of the fully working co-op mode that was unreleased but in the game and working at launch via glitches up until a few years after release when the developers decided to fuck that out of the game because 'fuck you retards')

>>718545062
How do you hide achievements on Steam?

>>718533796
>Infinite campaign was the best since CE
Fixed, but that's just me being generous for an overhyped mid series like Halo.

>>718545756
>Exclusives are STUPID because all systems are basically the same now and can easily be ported from one to another.
The problem isn't the exclusives then but the hardware, the solution is enforce hardware to be different again as it used to be so game systems look and work like a game system instead like a crappy computer you're not going to use because you already have a porn machine

>>718544769
By that logic Xbox are the most worthwhile consoles.

>>718545782
You put it on ignore and you put your account on private so no one can see it. It doesn't get rid of the damn things, but it'll allow you play your games without being interrupted by it. I will always appreciate Nintendo never adding that shit to their consoles.

Can’t wait for MS to finally turn pc into a drm box that locks everything into a subscription.
You pcmr retards will finally get your Pyrrhic victory lol.

>>718545171
Microsoft shows day one releasing doesn't seem to affect that much so I don't know about that. I assume their thought process is they also consider it a "New platform" to release games on and they never had them before so full price is justified in their eyes.

>>718546056
Shh.. don't tell the vegans yet... keep them happy for the time they have left

>>718545883
it shows that consoles are inherently worthless without exclusives because then you're just relying on retarded self brainwashed cultists and nintendo and sony have those on lockdown

>>718545872
You're completely insane and should promptly kill yourself.

>>718529685 (OP)
>move hq to california
>end up as shit as xbox

>>718545062
>meanwhile you can fully disable achievement notifications on xbox

>>718546256
>it shows that consoles are inherently worthless without exclusives
*Any product

As a consumer, if the product doesn't something different from others,that product won't sell. The stuff only found in that specific product is exactly the selling point.

>>718546278
>I want all my devices being the same
No, anon. YOU'RE insane, wanting the same and expecting different result is one the very definitions of it

>>718546056
>>718546213
Xbox is a dud, once the OEM project fails, they will just go full third party porting their games to Steam and Switch.

>>718546386
>a memory foam mattress is worthless because spring mattresses exist and they let you sleep too
no
it's called quality
consoles are inherently such a cucked and functionally limited experience that they have to discount the hardware to make it even remotely worth it
they're worthless, they're just gateways to their ecosystem

>>718546383
You can do that on Steam too. That's pretty much what I do.

>>718546823
>no, it's called quality
The consumer doesn't give a damn about objective quality, or your biased impression of it, when they see their needs fulfilled other stuff.

>>718536345
>Nintendo absolutely would benefit from releasing their games on PS5/Xbox
Yeah no. Playstation is dying. They gave up their games to PC and probably other platforms too. No console has ever survived without exclusives.

>>718530106
this

>>718529685 (OP)
i hate video game entropy

>>718546934
the console consumer maybe
if you claim that it's le user friendly you get undiscerning idiots that will worship you

>>718532836
nathan drake collection? sorry, that's never being ported again because it "looks old".
but you can get a piecemeal remake of each game with worse graphics maybe once or twice per decade. unless it doesn't sell well the first time, then we'll wait a decade and just release it again instead of remaking the sequel. works for gears of war!

>>718530106
>>718532773

>>718547043
>the console consumer maybe
The consumer in every market, anon. You have examples of this for decades.

>if you claim that it's le user friendly you get undiscerning idiots that will worship you
To my eyes that's the embodiment of Steam to zoomers.

>multiple posts thinking OP pic is real
this website is sad

>>718536085
>Releasing anything on Xbox/Playstation
but I said PC. Why are you bring up Xbox/PS when I said nothing of the sort?

Halo mcc and infinite are not getting ported because they are made on shit engine. Remember that instead of porting mcc to pc they decided to make that online halo 3 conversion instead. They are not wasting years on playstation port, it's simply isn't viable

>>718549501
It was also broken as shit when it finally came to PC through MCC. UE may do some great things for Halo shockingly.

>>718529685 (OP)
What is this Xbox tranny cope?

>>718529685 (OP)
Jesus Christ I've wasted more than 17 years on /v/ and we would have shit bricks back then at the idea of halo on PS3. Now it's like it doesn't even matter.

>>718544724
Holy fuck I did too. Except I use 1488 in most of my passwords in some form.

Gaylo

>>718547163
It's all red, forever, it will never fucking stop. It's all too big to fail

Nintendo and Valve went for the Blue Ocean Strategy while Sony and Microsoft went for the Red Ocean Strategy. While those two knuckleheads were fighting each other, Nintendo and Valve just focused on their ecosystems taking some bumps along the way because they knew they'll eventually strike gold and be unstoppable. Sony and Microsoft have now plateaued and have no place to go now are forced to shove their games in Nintendo's and Valve's ecosystems while Nintendo and Valve just keep doing the same thing. Microsoft and Sony will keep getting success as third parties, but their hardware will decline and die off. Gaming will return to Nintendo and PC with Nintendo being for kids and PC being for adults while Normalfags will be left out of the loop.

>>718550940
Nah normalfags will just latch onto PC.

>>718533593
>Exclusives are good actually
Kys

>>718529685 (OP)
>MCE+Infinite
Wheres Halo 5? Right not even PC got that one.

>>718550289
I hope ICE deported him

>>718529685 (OP)
>Halo 5 erased from history

>>718534006
You can already play 99% of Nintendo games on PC.

>>718529685 (OP)
The era of physical consoles is coming to an end. Consoles CANNOT be priced like luxury products. The average age of a console user has been skewing upward for years now. With kid's first foray into gaming being either mobile or PC at an increasing rate. That's bad for ,the long term growth of console users because why would a gen alpha kid now who grew up on an ipad and PC want to to get a console when they are older? They'll just stick with what they know.

>>718529685 (OP)
It is, unironically, it means having no identity, similar to the homogenization we can see happening to Western nations thanks to multiculturalism. PC gaming has been ass for more than a decade for the same reason, it's just a trough for all kinds of slop now. Nintendo is the only company left standing that has retained any kind of cultural identity.

>>718551201
The very fact that there isn't a simple solution to PC issues and no physical copies means normalfags by design won't realistically align towards PC. Gifting gift cards is passe so getting your kid a physical copy lets parents get around that and offers them a nice package to give to their kid. Unless Valve introduces something like a Steam Deck in Steam Machine form with 0 issues, no ability to touch Desktop Mode, and there is no touching Proton or anything from the user-side of things PC gaming will always be for enthusiasts.

>>718551201
Nope, too complicated for them, the normalfag era of gaming is coming to an end. AAA publishers and studios are in for a rude awakening.

>>718551701
It was Metroid Other M levels of bad.

>>718530017
Me because Xbox is the underdog with infinite money.

All the games I bought on Microsoft store were 2$-10$. I don't think I've ever bought a game on Xbox that was over 15$.

Steam is already taking away your games. It's something we all predicted. Devs will continue to take away the classics and replace them with shity woke remakes.

By the time Microsoft manages to catch up to steam in the next 2 decades I won't be gaming anymore anyway.

>>718529685 (OP)
it's bad for the company that used to have exclusives, which is why nintendo won

>>718553830
I find it hilarious that for years people were claiming that Nintendo and PC gaming was dead, but the reality was very different. Both had their dark ages but it was really PlayStation and Xbox that were dying. It also feels good that indies and AAs are reclaiming their place from the AAAs and we gamers are taking our hobby back from normalfags.

>>718530017
it's a good system for cheap gaming, I just keep abusing free trials on gamepass or someone gifts me a code. It never happens on playstation. And xbox just recently gave free wolfenstein games through Prime or some shit and everyone shared it online cause no one owns an xbox.

funny how nintendo is doing better than ever while the rest of the gaming industry is crashing and collapsing

>>718554695
how is this good for me as a consumer? Why are you nintendo fans always obsessed with sales

>>718530106
It's never going to happen. There's not going to be a 'great reset' and you're retarded for believing there will be.

>>718554828
nintendo is making great exclusives for actual gamers while all the other companies are doing multiplat wokeslop to please blackrock

>>718554828

It shouldn't affect you at all but somehow it does

>>718554984
I can't be excited for two cart racing games with no story mode. It's 2025, how is nintendo so backwaters in content

>>718555101
>playing racing games for the story

>>718555101
>story
I'm glad your shitty era of gaming is finally dying, eat shit, storyfag.

>>718555232
>more content is bad actually
Typical cultist behavior. Playing curated story mode experience is way better than any checklist shit that will be in air riders

>>718529685 (OP)
cope harder snoyggers

>>718534310
lol

They should port The Last of Us to Xbox and replace Joel with Master Chief and Ellie with Cortana

>>718556141
I want that! I am sure PC version will get it via modding. Snoyggers never ever... lmao

>>718534563
this, fuck PC gaming, what is the point in getting LASO there when everyone else cheated to get theirs? That's kinda meaningless

>>718556290
fuck off cultist, no one invited you here

snoyggers waste 500 hours of their life on a digital participation award that pcchads unlocked for free in 3 seconds

>>718556256
Laso?

>>718556141
that was so weird not gonna lie

>>718556392
Halo's hardest difficulty with all difficulty modifiers enabled

>>718556460
You know you did it without cheats I guess. There have been cheats and achievment unlockers on all platforms for years now

>>718533324
When was the last time studio's invested in AA games? And few times they did corpos shut those down because they were doing AAA profits

>>718556392
Legendary All Skulls On
Your shield doesn't regenerate unless you melee an enemy, if anyone dies the entire 15+ minute mission is reset, enemies have overshields and regenerate shields faster, you have no minimap, and a bunch of other stuff. That's on top of Legendary difficulty which has you dealing basically no damage to shields unless you have a Plasma Pistol, enemies are aimbots, enemies have better AI, enemies can drop your shield in one hit or sometimes outright one-shot you, etc.

Most people only complete it by exploiting the spawn mechanics to outright prevent enemies from spawning because of how brutal and punishing the difficulty is. Originally they only did it for the final level which was doable but 343 in their infinite retardation added full campaign achievements for it.

>>718556531
>There have been cheats and achievment unlockers on all platforms for years now
You get banned on both Xbox and Playstation if you're caught doing so because doing so requires you to have broken the ToS. The only exceptions are like Call of Duty hacked lobbies unlocking everything instantly and Grand Theft Auto doing the same. Even then I believe GTO achievement unlocking instabans you from GTO because if a hacker is doing that it also gets you ridiculous sums of money which they check for. It's why Steam achievements have no legitimacy for people who actually go after them because SAM is not punished in any way and mods can cause unintentional achievement unlocks.

>>718529685 (OP)
waiting for the rare collection or banjo kazooie and its sequels ported for the ps5

>>718556803
You don't get banned from playstation for hacking trophies, sony doesn't care about that.
You can get banned from unofficial sites like psnprofiles if they see you hacked your trophies but I have never heard of someone getting their playstation account banned for it.

>>718556334
Honestly no idea what you're seething about

>>718556970
Hakoom famously

>>718556803
>play a really niche and very difficult game
>most rare achievement is completed by like, 6% of players
>look at a couple profiles of people who have played the game (users that reviewed it, posted a screenshot, etc) and see multiple who unlocked all the achievements all at once the day they bought the game
like what is the point

>>718530106
Nigger, companies dying doesn't lead to a crash, it leads to a bigger cooperation buying them all up and making everything even shittier than it already is.

>>718555665
stick to your woke movie games

>>718557026
He seems to have shared his account with like 2000 people to make them farm trophies which is a whole different ball

>>718530106
same, woke mtx garbage is all the industry shits out anyways

>>718556970
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/927750-playstation-3/68019910
You used to get banned just for boosting trophies in KZ2.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/80887543
Hakoom got banned for doing a mix of hacking in trophies and account sharing.

If you look up anything related to hacking PS3's and cheating trophies it's also mentioned as a ban by basically everyone. They don't specifically ban you for the trophies but they ban you because you had to have a hacked system to cheat those trophies in.

>>718557065
I remember a couple years ago one guy here was bragging about his trophy completions for I think it was Neptunia games and he got into an argument with a guy who actually did 100% them about how there's no way he beat the games in the times he did. Dude posted his account and it was literally just ever Neptunia game released on Playstation at 100% with completion times in like one minute for every single game. Some people are just like that I guess.

>>718555665
I like story modes and do think every multiplayer game would be better off with one but this is some cuck shit and what's wrong with modern gaming. You legit think a "we don't use the word fun" one time experience is way better than a game that's centered around actual gameplay filled with replayability?

>>718529685 (OP)
This incredibly fake post is still up? God you zoomers are legit retarded and will believe almost anything you see online.