Thread 718536180

ok i admit consolefags were right. physical media is supreme. pc digital licenses were always a cancer killing vidya and are ushering in a full always online live service dystopia lead by steam. gabe is a jew and i regret signing his faggot birthday card like a good goy

>>718536180 (OP)
It's too late.

>>718536180 (OP)
>Humble
>Humble wallet
>Humble team
>Steam
One of these things is not like the other.

physical PC stuff was riddled with things like secuROM too

>>718536180 (OP)
Can they even do that legally? The transaction was completed. I know that stores can refuse to ship an item if you bought it when the price was lower by a mistake (not that I've ever seen a store not honor such purchase) but they cannot ask you to ship the item back for a refund.
HB set a low price by a mistake but then they sold you the item and shipped it meaning they accepted the offer. You can't just undo a transaction because you've changed your mind. It being automated is not a legal defense. HB also has the habit of selling games without a key to redeem or expired keys. They are not the same company that was selling you indies for $1 back in the day.

>>718536180 (OP)
Of course. Why would I be wrong?

Either you own your games or you don't
"physical" is an entirely meaningless qualifier and they've been able to brick your shit since the wii if they don't like you.

>>718536180 (OP)
When steam makes an incorrect pricing issue and you purchase it, they don't remove it from your account or charge you extra, they acknowledge that as their own fuck up.

>>718536180 (OP)
That birthday card is the most reddit shit ever made

>>718536180 (OP)
Grass is always greener when you're underage and don't remember having to wait a month for hotfix discs.

>Humble
>The same as steam
Okay zoomer

>>718540410
every physical shit aside from vinyl LPs is still digital media too

>>718540410
>Either you own your games or you don't
>"physical" is an entirely meaningless qualifier
Not really. A game needs a physical component to own it. This does not mean every physical game you can own.
>they've been able to brick your shit since the wii if they don't like you.
My car can be impounded if the cops don't like me. I still own it.

physical is game files on shit plastic
digital is game files on a hard drive
steam drm is deliberately shit and it takes a minute to convert your game into an offline copy
the only reason you'd want the inconvenience of physical on pc is if you're a turbo poorfag so desperate that you need to sell your games

>>718540830
If Honda had a button they could push to total your car immediately, would you be arguing that you owned it?

>>718540924
>the only reason you'd want the inconvenience of physical on pc
Sweetie, you don't have a choice.

>>718536180 (OP)
But they're completely wrong? I give you Exhibit A: The Nintendo Switch 2. They have always online DRM digital licenses and are using "Game-Key Cards" for physical too. Nintendo is far more restrictive than Steam is and has less features too.

>>718540995
My car can get totalled immediately for a million reasons and I still own it

>>718536180 (OP)
We haven't owned anything since downloadable updates were a thing, unless you're OK with just having ancient versions.

>>718536180 (OP)
I'm a physicalfag, but the best option will always be DRM-free backups for long-term preservation. Of course, both are susceptible to rot, but both physical and DRM-free digital copies will outlive you with proper maintenance/storage, despite what the average /v/irgin will tell you.

>>718541174
DRM has nothing to do with ownership.

>>718540259
Of course it's legal.

>>718536180 (OP)
>Humble Bundle Team

>Humble Bundle, Inc. is a digital storefront for video games, which grew out of its original offering of Humble Bundles, collections of games sold at a price determined by the purchaser and with a portion of the price going towards charity and the rest split between the game developers. Humble Bundle continues to offer these limited-time bundles, but have expanded to include a greater and more persistent storefront. The Humble Bundle concept was initially run by Wolfire Games in 2010, but by its second bundle, the Humble Bundle company was spun out to manage the promotion, payments, and distribution of the bundles. In October 2017, the company was acquired by Ziff Davis through its IGN Entertainment subsidiary.
>In October 2017, the company was acquired by Ziff Davis through its IGN Entertainment subsidiary.

>>718541003
it's a mental exercise
what are the benefits of physical on pc with piracy and steam cracking being so easy?
there aren't any, the ecosystem is inherently more libertarian and no one can tell you what to do unlike the console corpos that control every aspect of consoles

>>718540259
This. Telling Donald Trump right now, he's gonna handle it

>>718541394
>what are the benefits of physical on pc with piracy and steam cracking being so easy?
For one, you can own it.
>the ecosystem is inherently more libertarian
So it's dogshit in every way

>>718541285
Of course it does. If you can't even use what you bought without getting permission from daddy Nintendo, then you don't truly own it, especially if they can revoke it at any time. Steam has the same problem, but t least with them, there are systems in place and things already built in should they ever go offline.

>>718541394
used to be cool boxart and manuals but at least gog often has those for old games

>>718541481
>you can own it
In what way, the disk for your console is just as much a license
>But I can pop it in my console and play it
Is no different then me hitting skidrow or fitgirl and downloading a single DLL

>>718538117
Anyone that yearns for the return of securom, disk based checks (oh you have the game installed? Sorry, gotta put the CD/DVD in if you want to play it lmao), disks rotting, scratches, misplacing games, your little brothers friend just taking your disk while your back is turned, etc. is a fucking moron.

>>718541491
You can crack any game or hardware for any reason you want and nobody will ever do anything about it. Still has nothing to do with whether or not you own games.

>>718541481
>For one, you can own it.
no buzzwords please
how is ones and zeroes on a disc better than ones and zeroes on a disk

>>718541528
You know you can include a manual and wallpapers in your repository on Steam right?
Most companies are just too lazy to.

>>718541784
1s and 0s that I can own are better than 1s and 0s that I can't.

>>718541710
I miss big boxes but that's about it. The 4+ disk installation complete with SWITCH TO DISK 2 for the second chapter, as well as "SORRY OUR PROPRIETARY ANTIPIRACY IS DOWN SO NO GAMES LOL FUCK YOU" can get bent

>>718541860
nice circular reasoning there
name one perk that someone like me with income high enough to not worry about poorfag activities like reselling games would gain from buying plastic over dumping goldberg cracked or pirated game files on a hard drive

>>718541582
Why would you buy a digital game that you can just pirate when you're not owning in either instance?

>>718542162
for convenience?
as long as you know your steam credentials you can download your games from anywhere with a few clicks

>>718542162
You want me to hold up a mirror? You can pirate console games as well, it's not hard

>>718542105
I don't speak for anyone other than myself.

>>718542283
if you're going to act superior over having infinitely and trivially reproducible files on some plastic you better have some fantastic reason

>>718540259
>They are not the same company that was selling you indies for $1 back in the day.
They were quite literally bought by IGN years and years ago.

>>718541751
It does have to do with ownership though, and plenty of people have been arrested for piracy by the way. But all of that is like a completely separate topic though.

>>718542465
And there's been a marked decline in quality and value ever since

>WEF - you vill own nothing
:(
>Valve - you vill own nothing
:)

Explain this