Thread 718569054

It's 6000$ today, skin community is booming, CS2 is more alive than GO

How does this even happen? How do virtual cosmetics end up costing thousands of dollars and why do people actually buy them for that much?

>>718569054 (OP)
>$200 knife
I wish a fade butterfly would still cost 200 bucks.

>>718569206
chiiiiiiiiiiiineeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeseeeeeeeeee

>>718569206
Because some people really are that gay they'll pay for it, which in turns ropes other people in hoping to exploit the gay. Eventually the gay becomes purely theoretical and the price of something is in essence a meme.

>>718569338
in otherwords
gay >gay > gay

>>718569206
Don't listen to the OP

Most CS accounts are chinese bot accounts. They don't exist as actual players, they are created to farm cases

The price for these knives is true however.
But just like with NFTs and cardboard like Pokemon the liquidity in the market is near zero

>>718569331
>>718569419
Must be terrifying living in constant fear of strawmen anon.
I hope you get better.

>>718569206
gambling addicts and chink traders have exploded the market cap
+ artificial rarity on items like OPs
>>718569338
also this, and we're always only one country actually starting to regulate digital items away from a total collapse

>>718569331
anything goes
even
oooooops

>>718569419
>liquidity in the market is near zero
i listed my knife for 700 the other day and it sold within 10 minutes but yes whatever that means

I sold my CS shit to buy gacha shit.

>>718569206
Largely thanks to gambling, if you bought boxes back then even casually you would likely be sitting pretty.

>>718569441
>passive agressive tone
Eat shit, faggot

>>718569441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yS6_WDb6w

Also fun fact: I used to get games on CS:GO with people from my own country almost every game.

Now in CS2 I always get russian/polish/eatern EU players and encountering people from my own region happens a lot less often now.

The game you loved is dead and completely taken over by bots

>>718569558
what he means is that its a fad
the price is entirely dependent on what someone actually would pay for it, 1$ or 10.000$
a new game like cs could release tomorrow and if it would be more popular (not even better), the prices of everything would tank
its not an "investment", its sheer stupidity because at the end of the day its pixels

>>718569598
>used to get games on CS:GO with people from my own country almost every game
this wasnt a thing in csgo either, dota and cs were always full of russians after like ~2012

>>718569054 (OP)
Why are CS fags mostly euros

>>718569054 (OP)
>2021
>play operation riptide with a friends (the hostage map with choosing spawn point was kino)
>get a pass
>make back the money with cases
>decided to roll for skin collections instead
>get AWP Desert Hydra
>immediately sell it because skins are worthless to me
>with the money I've made from selling it go on vacation with my friends instead
good times

>>718569054 (OP)
I sold off my shitty plain green glock i bought for 16p for like £17

Who the fuck is actually buying this garbage

>>718569896
chinese and stupid kids

>>718569716
and that's been said for over a decade yet here we are

>>718569716
I believe the term you are describing is "volatile".

>>718569206
Fact is, they don't
The retards holding these knives want you to believe they are worth $6000, because they want to get rid of them
So they will set them at that price, get their friends to buy them (and compensate them of course) and hope with all their might that some retard journalist makes a headline like "CSGO knife sells for $6000" to hopefully delude a naive enough chink into thinking its a worthwhile investment
Do not be fooled, these knives are worth nothing

>>718569896
Streamers

>>718569206
they dont
in real money they probably worth couple hundred bucks at best
its like how EVE online always headline with ship cost 10k just xplode
where if you spend your cash for in-game money in the worse way possible then yeah they can cost 10k
but people buy plat at like half that price to begin with

>>718569206
It's a scam. They don't move fast at all at "market value". They do every trick in the book to inflate and oversell these cosmetics

>>718569946
ive sold cases for 3 cents because i had like 200 of them
theyre the modern day scratch-off-ticket with a minimum prize of 3-4 cents so valve can legally say its not gambling and push it onto kids
i hope valve gets royally fucked by EU lawmakers, just imagine the skin "traders" meltdown if by tomorrow everyone could buy the skins they wanted for 1-100$

>>718569206
My guess is those people didn't grew up with cs1.6 when you could mod any weapon model for yourself. To me going from this to payed skins is clear downgrade and I would never pay for a skin in my life. Clearly those people didn't grew up modding their games before payed cosmetics even became a thing.

>>718570518
>csbanana
>golden deagle

>>718570518
They're investments

>>718570631
for stupid people

>>718570649
For rich people

Poorfags seething thet can't afford pixels

>>718569054 (OP)
Do CS2 crates outperform the S&P500?

How do I take a knife skin and sell it for $200? Like, actual money that I can buy fruity pebbles and milk with.

>>718573427
I think there's a middleman website that does this (they take a commission probably). If you go through the Steam market it's only Gaybenbucks and also I'm pretty sure there's a cap to price listings (+ Gayben's cut, there's yachts to buy).

Why not just buy a real knife?

>>718569054 (OP)
>It's 6000$ today
no they're not

i have the anime aug skin and the wasteland rebel ak from csgo like 10 years ago
are they worth anything today?

>>718573218
Yes, CS2 crates outperform Bitcoin too

>>718573905
1.5-4k

>>718574250
Are all crates like that (I assume FOMO) or are there crates that always drop and are stable in price?

>>718574508
newer crates are in the active pool and drop weekly for players. you have a 1% chance of getting an older crate no longer in the pool but they are effectively out of rotation

buying the oldest crate in active rotation and then sitting on it until it leaves basically a guaranteed 2x money or more depending on how many years you want to wait

>>718569206
You can create infinite virtual cosmetics because they're not real things, they have no true value or even price but gambling retards will buy them anyways.

>>718574682
Is the crate drop guaranteed if the "timer" is up? I've been sitting on my CS:GO copy for ages, if I can make some Steam bux by doing a quick Gun Game once a week I should start doing that.

i thought gamers didn't like nfts?

>>718574508
Who knows, older crates are pretty much speculated on and some prices went 0.03->60.00

>>718569206
Look up 'speculative asset' and 'greater fool theory'. Turns out a critical mass of retards can retardation nothing into something.

>>718574859
>Is the crate drop guaranteed if the "timer" is up?
Yeah you level up and get to pick two items out of a little selection of shit $0.03 skins and stickers but one of them is always a crate
>if I can make some Steam bux by doing a quick Gun Game once a week I should start doing that
Levelling up takes multiple hours it's not quick by any means. If you don't actually enjoy playing CS it's not worth it unless a new crate has just dropped and they're going for like $8

>>718575146
Alright, thanks.

Well I'm fucking mad because my weekly drop was a R8 Cobalt Grip, but before I picked something else I checked the float and its FN 0.000021366, the lowest in existence according to CSFloat...but of course its a fucking R8 pos skin...

I'll easily clear like 5 ~ 10 bucks for it, but still.

>>718569054 (OP)
Smart investment. Rent lasts for a month, CS2 knife will still be there for you after that.

>>718569206
Because they are rare and people want them. The retarded cardboard pieces with colors boomers spend their money on don't have any real value either.
Your retarded brain might tell you "but that's at least physical", to which I'd respond that you can at least use your CS skin.

>>718575906
cs2 knife won't be there anymore when the electric company cuts the power though

>>718569519
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>>718576036
Itll still be there if you think & fool yourself hard enough when youre homeless on the street or living in a shelter.

>>718574682
>>718575146
Why the fuck are CSGO crates worth real money while TF2 crates go for $0.005 with a small handful of exceptions

>>718569260
I remember buying a butterfly rust coat for like 60 or 80 bucks and thinking even that was a ridiculous waste of money before selling it a couple of weeks later, now even those go for a thousand.

>>718577231
Anon, you know the answer to this. Don't be dense.

>>718577953
I really don't
Both are dropped for free every few hours of gameplay, both are inherently worthless without a corresponding key that can be used to gamble.
If you mean the general price difference between TF2 and CSGO, where in CS something is considered expensive if it goes for thousands while in TF2 expensive stuff goes for hundreds, that's true - but the price difference in crates is more than that, crates in TF2 are regularly just deleted from inventories because they're so worthless, while cases in CS seem to often go for more than their keys.

Aren’t speculative markets based on selling to people who hope they bought it at a dip so they can sell it for even more to the next sucker who in turn etc etc.
That’s how worthless things like tf2 hats, csgo knives and stocks in companies make so much money

>>718575146
Sometimes you can also drop a decent skin from this weekly reward, friend of mine got that red USP and he sold it for nice cash

>>718578178
>Both are dropped for free every few hours of gameplay
One of these is dropped once a week, the other is actually dropped every few hours.
It's just basic supply and demand, csgo cases used to be dirt cheap before they updated the drops system.
Some cases also get taken out of the rotation or get pushed into the rare drops pool, which once again raises the price.

>>718569054 (OP)
You dont buy a weapon skin, you trade a weapon skin
By doing that you can get a higher value weapon skins. And weapon skin is literally your chips and profit at the same time, they werent meant to be enjoyed or being keep for so long in your inventory, they were meant to be traded, gambled, or being sold in market for crates. Do otherwise and you play the game wrong

>>718579146
>One of these is dropped once a week, the other is actually dropped every few hours.
Oh, I see. Yeah that makes a bit more sense then.
>Some cases also get taken out of the rotation or get pushed into the rare drops pool, which once again raises the price.
Hasn't helped TF2 crates that have been out of the drop system for a decade, but I guess if they're just that much more abundant it matters less.

>>718569054 (OP)
>chinese gacha bad
>valve gacha good

>>718579828
It's not like anyone is gambling on those old crates, they're being hoarded by couple of big plwjerst

>>718580123
Yeah but why not

>>718579828
Well yeah, TF2 has always had and probably still has a problem with people idling and botting for drops, with CS they at least triend nipping the problem right in the bud with some success, so there isn't a major abundance of the cases.
Also people usually bought the more desirable cases en masse and in large quantities in the hopes of getting something extremely specific, like a certain pattern index case hardened ak in stattrak and factory new chance to get this is like 0.00000001% or something stupid like that, but people still keep trying for it even now that the cases themselves cost around 120€ with the first weapon case, I don't think that is the case with TF2 cases as much.

>>718580123
>It's not like anyone is gambling on those old crates
streamers do it every day

>>718569206
CS2 has multiple layers of rarity
You wan an specific item, well too bad because
>you need to get the box that item comes in
>items have different drop chances, the rare ones, like gloves and knifes have a bellow 1% chance to be acquired
>not only that but there are also multiple models and skins for said items
>not only that but said items also have multiple ware values as well, so the same exact item can have it's price vary greatly.

People also inflate the values of the items artificially.
>>718569598
I wish I was smart enough to get my own bot farm. all the discords and programs people recommend look shady as fuck.