Thread 718570332

>>718570332 (OP)
i dont feel so good mr hunter

Trash

>>718570332 (OP)
>Mixed
Anon that's amazing compared to what Dawntrail is sitting at.

>>718571270
both shit btw

>>718570332 (OP)
>>718570396
they are trying to combine two wrongs to get one right

>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>Million tiers of tempered monsters so you are forced to fight the same monsters over and over again
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>718570332 (OP)
trash collabs with trash

>>718571427
Kek

>>718570332 (OP)
>>718570396
It is pretty funny how previous entries for both were so high and then the next entry fucking crashed and burned and took away all the goodwill it once had.

>it's only been 13 months since Dawntrail released
God it feels like so much longer, please just make it end

>>718573626
There are still two years left...

>FINAL FANTASY DAWNTRAIL here's omega btw
Nice dawntrail NERD now watch me cart to the stupid toaster in a pencil thin hallway for 3 hours in a row

I love the little lala lady in this art.

>>718570332 (OP)
>please help us
some one called?

>>718570332 (OP)
>omega
why are they doing this instead of fucking idk, bahamut or something

>>718575695
Or this diarrhea ass ripper would've been really cool.

>>718573348
A lot of XIV's current issues started with Endwalker (or at least became more prevalent) but people were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because of COVID delaying things and expected (hoped) DT would course correct. It didn't and that unleased the floodgates.

>>718570332 (OP)
>yoshitpiss came into stage to announce a shitty colab
felt like a fever dream

>>718575270
SO BABY NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE

>>718570942
>>718571224
Is that from Eureka Orthros?

>>718570332 (OP)
why would they do another ff collab after world's so poorly received? both the buffed chicken and behemoth (and extremoth) were giga dogshit.
i wouldnt be surprised if last update would be another witcher collab lmao.

>>718576605
World's was kino, and most people agreed, what are you on about

>>718575695
Omega is cool.

Don't worry guys, the Switch 2 will save us https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1958130923989610914

>>718575695
Omega hunts Dragons, it's the true Apex

>>718570332 (OP)
Dogshit game Collab with dogshit game wow!

>>718577364
keep your mid mmo

>>718577514
mid mmo for mid console, match made in heaven

>>718570332 (OP)
Wow, this collab sure is making the usual suspects seethe.

>>718576605
>why would they do another ff collab after world's so poorly received?
the lead producers are friends, but also it was clearly a success for both of their games and people are gonna want gear from the other game in their own game. Also MH Coomers are gonna go insane when they get the Omega M and F outfits

>>718576605
Really? I've heard the behemoth fight was good, though very difficult.

>>718577364
The game is near unplayable on the PS4 and now they want it to be on the Switch 2 for the next 10 years or whatever? Sounds like an awful idea

>>718576032
DT has actually course corrected on a lot of issues EW had, dungeons, trials and raids have all been huge steps up from EW and even ShB, and they've started adding a lot of QoL and features people have been wanting for years (they literally just added speech bubbles and they're really good) with more to come.
Issue is DT's MSQ (thats story) was really ropey and bad in parts, ironically having a similar issue to Wilds were you follow an annoying character (Wuk and Nata) who are basically the lead characters, are terribly uninteresting and the supporting cast are all also terribly uninteresting, DT does get better in the second half but not by much, the story does get drastically better in the patches, but that bad story stuck with a lot of people and it doesn't help ffxiv youtubers, who famously are super uninterested kept punishing this in their sub drama tier videos.
In reality a lot of the stories issues are issues the MSQs have always had, it was just more apparent now when people didnt have an ongoing saga to theorize about.

>>718577757
Wonder if the Omega M and F hairstyles that got datamined for the cash shop will release around the same time as MH gets the collab

>>718577975
not wilds, FFXIV, FFXIV runs on PS4 just fine.
>>718578070
would be a good time, but knowing the FFXIV team they might just wait another 2 years or its awarded to future armor and housing contest winners

>>718578025
>dungeons have all been huge steps up from EW
I dunno about that. People found the DT dungeons harder or release but these days I never get grouped with anyone struggling, meanwhile whenever I get Tower of Zot or Ktisis Hyperboreia some retard always dies to the Magus Sisters or Hermes' wind shit

>>718578025
We're storming the blood again.

>>718578115
>FFXIV runs on PS4 just fine.
You can just admit you haven't played Dawntrail on PS4 if you think the absurd loading times teleporting to places is fine. Trying teleporting to Limsa on Aether you will unironically take 1-2 minutes just loading in, it's abysmal.

>>718578227
NTA but to be fair, Zot was an outlier even then.
People struggle similarly on some other bosses, like the Antivirus dude in Alexandria. Tender Valley and Strayborough were pretty neat too, and I like what they did with the 7.3 dungeon. I'm not sure if I'd say dungeons are necessarily *harder* as they are just more... experimental?

>>718578025
Dungeons are fucking dogshit. The last time you could pull the entire runway up to boss was mt. gulg. It's all the same trash with two packs (sometimes 1 pack lmao) into boss since late SHB.

Trials are also mostly the same as EW, there hasn't been any standout stuff. Every expac adds some new cool stuff and mechanics with trials. The main difference is the endgame raids, the first tier was shit but at least it was course corrected from the abysmal dogshit that was most of Endwalker's design. The second tier of DT was the best in a very long time.

>>718578303
don't forget alliance raids being laggy and near unplayable the xi shit isn't fun when the bosses just don't do their animations because the ps4 is struggling to load everything

or frontlines just not loading in the opponents models so you can't see what they're doing or target them

real fun

>>718578227
>People found the DT dungeons harder or release but these days I never get grouped with anyone struggling
well yeah they're current so people do them more. Older ones aren't run as much and you probably get some new person or someone who hasnt done it in ages, this is kinda normal, DT dungeons are still overall better, especially the newest one, the team is going into a new design direction thats actually exciting.
>>718578238
well if SB actually had content that is.

>>718578421
>the first tier was shit
>

>>718578238
It's even worse. At least when Lyse said dumb things the filthy commoners would tell her she's a retard. When Wuk says something dumb everyone claps.

>>718578516
Bro if you think XIV dungeons in any form are 'actually exciting' I don't know what to tell you

>>718578528
Yes, it was complete undertuned trash with mostly same gimmicks as Endwalker except the boss hitboxes were smaller and there were no body checks.

>>718578516
>well if SB actually had content that is.
It had the most content before DT. Two ultimates, Eureka, Heaven-on-High, Monster Hunter collab, Doman Restoration, etc.

>>718578421
>there hasn't been any standout stuff.
someone didnt do EX1 or tha raid tiers
> the first tier was shit
people liked it, it was just tuned very low but most were fine with it.

>>718578516
I have had enough people eat shit in Vanguard, Origenics, Alexandria, Tender Valley. I'd say Underkeep was actually on the underwhelming end (though I didn't mind it until 7.3)

>>718578638
I did every single piece of content week 1 except for FRU which was week 4. All of it was bad to mediocre except for Zelenia and that was only because we did it blind. I guess Sphene was alright too. FRU actually made me retroactively despise SHB encounters despite me having fond memories of Promise.

>people liked it, it was just tuned very low but most were fine with it.
People liked it because it inflated their ego into thinking they're better at the game than they actually are.

>>718578569
good thing design direction also includes all other content, and yes the new dungeon is exciting because they're doing new things with bosses they do stuff like split you up or make a massive hole in the area they are actually making good dungeons.
>>718578637
>It had the most content before DT.
not really, yes it had those things but a lot of it was either jank as hell or not for most people, DT is leaps and bounds better and offers things for everyone.

>>718578421
Know you can easily tell when someone just doesn’t do any other than normal dungeons/ raids and even then you probably haven’t even did 7.3

>>718578790
I'd rather have jobs that are fun to play in any context than a handful of decent encounters personally

>>718578764
>People liked it because it inflated their ego into thinking they're better at the game than they actually are.
oh no people who dont raid feels good and might actually stick around for the next tier.
Also even people who regularly raided found the tier to be good, especially after EW's raid tiers
>All of it was bad to mediocre
man imagine being so wrong

>>718578832
>even then you probably haven’t even did 7.3
>>718578764

>>718578790
>not really, yes it had those things but a lot of it was either jank as hell
I am aware. Pagos is a good example.
But Heavensward had more jank PLUS less content.
Shadowbringers had considerably less content.
Endwalker ditto.

>>718578873
encounters and jobs go hand in hand, they're just focusing on encounters this expansion to get out of the bad habits SB, ShB and EW put them in.

>>718578832
It's really not a big deal fight but it's great to get one that bucks the trend a bit. The personal-ish responsibility is nice.
It's probably my favorite dungeon fight in a little while. The final boss of the dungeon and the first boss are aight - bit by the books. The dungeon is pretty hard-carried by these lads and the fact it doesn't overstay its welcome.

>>718578943
>But Heavensward had more jank PLUS less content.
yes never claimed it had more
>Shadowbringers had considerably less content.
in some regards but in others it delivered more, it also had Ishgard Restoration which was a massive success and crazy they didnt to anything like it for EW.
>Endwalker ditto.
on the whole EW does have more but they tried new things that didnt pan out which is fine, what wasn't fine is they kinda listened too much to the community which is why they didnt do things like a big relic grind.

>>718578971
you're retarded if you think they're suddenly going to turn around and start increasing job complexity again when they've blatantly dumbed them down to have their flashy fast encounters, they clearly sacrificed one for the other

>>718579016
Yes it’s not really a big deal but it means they are at least trying to be different and this retard comes along and says “ nothing really changed in DT”

>>718578894
>oh no people who dont raid feels good and might actually stick around for the next tier.
All those people got to was being filtered on m5s and if they got past it they quit the game on m6s. There was an insane amount of recruitment posts from people recruiting week 1 or putting unrealistic expectations on themselves and then crashing and burning was certainly not good for the raiding scene. Which is why all I read about current tier was people either loved it or they despised it. Especially pf players have been extremely negative about this tier, unsurprisingly when the last one you could clear easily even in pf week 1.

>>718578832
its such a good boss.
>>718579016
>but it's great to get one that bucks the trend a bit.
it is and its why it makes me excited, we started to see it a bit in 7.1's dungeon with the final boss area but 7.3s dungeon is really giving me hope they are gonna make more memorable enounters that is more mechanically different again, doesnt have to be super different but just a little different thing to overcome can do a lot, I still remember Ala Mhigo for having the soul extraction part, its not that special but its something that just adds ontop of it.

>>718579080
>>718578971
The pvp jobs, except more neutered are coming to pve as their 8.0 job rework.

>>718579080
>start increasing job complexity
I keep seeing “ job complexity” but people never really say what it means. I hope you’re not just going something silly

>>718579080
>you're retarded if you think they're suddenly going to turn around and start increasing job complexity again
I never said this, they did however say next expansion was gonna focus more on job identity, which doesnt mean super hard jobs but more diverse jobs which is really the issue with jobs.

>>718579181
They always try to understate things. Saying anything remotely in the realm of positive about DT is verboten.
>>718579302
>it is and its why it makes me excited
Like some other things we saw in DT (quest puzzles) I hope it's the kind of thing we see more of going forward.

>>718579443
Yea the story in DT was meh to shit but the fights have been great and I fucking want more chaotic fights

>>718579341
what people usually mean when they say that is they want jobs with even more buttons and like 4 gagues to manage and they rather fights be super simple abd boring instead, or they're morons who want their cakes and eat them at once.

>>718579375
Source?

>>718579443
>(quest puzzles)
yeah me too, because I do think future MSQs really need to break up the walking and talking if they are all gonna be as long as DT or EW, if not they should frankly be shorter.

>>718579341
Nta but instead of shitting up black mage they should've used that job as a basis for the other ones.

>>718579536
>I fucking want more chaotic fights
I am sad because I didn't do it while it was "relevant" and now I probably never will because there is 0 futureproofing and it will probably never be unsynced either.

>>718579443
The puzzles were basic shit you'd see in a game for 3 year olds were you actually entertained by that

>>718579650
Minor jumping puzzles could be good too. The only problem I had with 7.3 quest structure wise is that there wasn't enough combat. The puzzles, while minor, were cool. But we're still in the "actually using our buttons in MSQ" drought. Where's the solo duties?

>>718579678
You're not missing out on much. 2/3rds of the fight is basically an alliance raid, the middle part which most people actually don't like is the unique part of the fight that hasn't been really done before outside of maybe DRS/BA.

>>718579719
Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

>>718579608
dude mentioned it before DT's release and in the media tours, the whole community were filled with furious keyboard warriors, you cant have missed it
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1d9mlq9/naoki_yoshida_talks_about_job_homogenization_job/

>>718579537
>wanting more buttons
Fuck even warrior which is the most simple tank is like 16 buttons and still get retards who don’t put their defensive cooldowns

Ah yes and just like with Monster Hunter you have people shilling DT with the old classic "actually the other games sucked and ruined the series so DT is fine"

>>718579775
I love the middle part as alliance b

>>718579817
So it's something he mentioned briefly in an interview over a year ago and hasn't mentioned again since?

>>718579741
>Where's the solo duties?
probably kept to a minimum after the outrage of people that couldnt beat into the cold sadly.

>>718579890
into the cold was shit because it was completely pointless you could cut the whole retarded bodyswap segment and nothing in the story changes

>>718579939
I think it was cool story wise

>>718579873
I'm pretty sure he has mentioned it in other famitsu interviews. They said 7.2 will be focus on "enhanced encounter design" and they did deliver on that part. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that 8.0 might have some changes but not necessarily for the good.

>>718579873
he genuinely mentioned it in the DT liveletter and in interviews since they are genuinely thinking about it

>>718579890
That fucking blows ass.
I love solo duties. Some of them stink, but a lot of them are good and break up the MSQ "talk and go there then go there and talk and then go back and talk" pace.

>>718579986
Whatever happens, one group will bitch.
People aren't united in what they want XIV's gameplay and class design to be like, no matter how much it seems like it. There are plenty of people that will whinge - even people that asked for what they will end up getting, because it won't be as good to them in practice.

>>718580013
How do you know it was genuine? Source?

lmao i just have a bot do my rotations 95% of the time so i don't give a fuck one way or the other

>>718580262
Now fuck off retard.

>>718580235
>People aren't united in what they want XIV's gameplay and class design to be like
they aren't in any mmo, so they might as well just do it, if not for the players just for the health of the game because they still need to look over it as it is a sticking point for the game and needs to change if they want to keep going another 10 years.

>>718580306
>pays to not play the game

>>718580432
Yeah, just saying: whatever they do, expect there to be people who bitch and piss and moan and scream that the game is over.

>>718577428
There are no dragons in Wilds

>>718581039
because Omega destroyed them all

>>718581091
If they use this as an actual explanation I will vegeta kneel.

>>718577364
So they’ll probably announce this officially at fanfest to pad out time like what they did with Xbox. So silly to do that at a fan event where everyone there already played. What they should do is announce it via a Direct instead.

>>718581745
But then Tendies would cry it’s not FF9 remake.

>>718580262
I was curious so I asked grok.
Multiplayer.it Interview (June 6, 2024)
Link: https://multiplayer.it/articoli/final-fantasy-14-dawntrail-naoki-yoshida-ci-parla-di-narrazione-di-design-e-del-bilanciamento.html
Summary: Yoshida says job homogenization (120s buff meta) sucks, plans unique job identities for 8.0, some 7.x tweaks. (Italian, translations on Reddit)

PC Gamer Interview (June 23, 2025)
Link: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/final-fantasy/final-fantasy-14-director-yoshi-p-admits-our-quality-of-service-has-declined-recently-and-we-got-used-to-things-a-bit-too-much-and-got-comfortable/
Summary: Yoshida admits Dawntrail’s quality dip, confirms 8.0 will make jobs more unique. (YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg-LRoukGVo)

Meoni & AeroViro Interview (June 6, 2024)
Link: Search "Meoni AeroViro Yoshida Interview Dawntrail" on YouTube
Summary: Yoshida talks job progression for 8.0, like ability points or talents (e.g., Dragoon), to make jobs distinct.

Reddit Thread Translations of Prior Interviews (June 6, 2024)
Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1d9b7l8/multiplayerit_interview_with_naoki_yoshida/
Summary: r/ffxiv discusses Multiplayer.it interview, translates Yoshida’s 8.0 job differentiation plans, references Meoni interview.

>>718580235
Feel like it’s really a very loud and annoying minority thats saying this and mostly raid fags

>>718582935
just as there's a very loud and annoying minority bitching about DT dungeons being too hard (yes, really)

>>718582704
3/4 of those are the same thing and the PC Gamer article doesn't even mention that job part when you open it.

>>718582704
You didn’t ask grok you had this shit saved because you’re a mentally ill lunatic

>>718582704
So you don’t have a source you have some reddit links and ai slop

>>718583386
It’s still wild to me people just automatically take what grok says and be ok with it when it’s been known to lie and hallucinate

>>718581039
what the fuck are the Raths, G. Rath, Zoh Shia and Seregios then?

>>718583635
Wyverns. Zoh Shia is the only dragon.

>>718583635
flying wyverns and constructs

>>718583734
>constructs
Wat so they got man made stuff as monsters? Wouldn’t omega fit right in then?

>>718570396
>>718571367
nothingburger

>>718583798
It's a robot vs bioweapons but yeah, kind of.