Thread 718573365

>cheating ai
>game rewards luck over good driving
>repetitive race tracks
>bland boring story
>scripted traffic spawns on racing lines
>insane difficultly spike around the 70% point of completion
i don't care i still liked it
even beat it on hard at the cost of my sanity

Me too.
I wouldn't beat it again though, I just keep the soundtrack close to my heart to remember the good times.

>>718573365 (OP)
u2 is better

>>718573365 (OP)
I beat the game on hard when I was 10 years old, I replayed it a couple of years ago and I still had no problem beating it outside of the occasional van popping out of a side street.
Also remember to get the widescreen patch, which also bundles in modern controller support if you plan on playing this in the present day.

>>718573573
true, and in almost every metric. however u1 is still pretty good despite its flaws.

MEGALOLZ

>playing a racing game for the story
Nigger what

>>718573573
no

>>718573573
wrong
2's went on too long and certain race types were just fucking worthless (looking at you streetx)
100% was arbitrarily locked behind specific criteria and a specific sponsorship
obligatory customizations to hit the rating for covers meant you had to rice out cars
driving from event to event was more fun in theory than it was in practice because it got boring
underground 1 > underground 2

>>718573687
>can't even listen to this track without feeling guilty
Damn why was he such a creep?

>>718573365 (OP)
>bland boring story
Imaging caring about the story in a racing game of all things

That said, I found no shame in playing the 7 lap races on easy because fuck slamming into a truck coming out of nowhere on the home stretch and losing the race.

>>718573639
i did all of that but opted for keyboard controls

>>718573365 (OP)
I beat it on hard and it was still pretty easy for the most part. now hard in UG2 is way harder.

>>718573573
>URL races
>SUVs
>forced to rice out your car to Pimp My Ride levels of garishly ugly to progress
No.

>>718573761
i unironically liked streetX, that race mode actually did reward good driving.

Go over to vr where theyre arguing that if you put a clutch pedal on it youre basically having a better experience than driving a real car... No joke...

The drift races were fun at least for a bit. It was a neat concept. Boring , but neat. Agree that everything was just drawn out and boring otherwise

>>718573672
>in almost every metric
bayview's roads fucking suck for racing
>>718573761
>obligatory customizations to hit the rating for covers meant you had to rice out cars
which is why you buy an escalade (which has the most trunk slots) and use that to cheese the rating system
or just use the mod that removes the style rating completely

>>718573874
same with url

>>718573917
>obligatory customizations
easily fixed with a simple mod

>>718573874
I enjoyed them in a sort of joke sense
they just felt way too easy, by the midpoint I was lapping every single opponent multiple times in streetx

>>718573917
ah yes, because I want nothing more than buying a car I won't use and using it for covers instead of the cars I actually like, what a great solution

BRRRRRRUM DUM DUM

>>718573365 (OP)
Tfw I bought a PS2 earlier this year just to play UG1/2 and MW but all of them seem to be complete fucking unobtainium.

I recently gave it a go and it's not as good as nostalgia made me believe, but it's still okay. The progression is a bit fucky and it does get repetitive pretty quickly. I had forgotten that it was based on early ricer/tuner culture so most of the cars except for the highest tier ones were shitboxes, which is good for a laugh. The kid who picked the Dodge Neon as their starter car always got laughed at.

>>718573773
Ever read the court documents? He deserve a far worse punishment than he got.

>>718573365 (OP)
Its good because the basics like driving and progression just works. The game dishes out upgrades in a fairly quick manner so you dont feel like being stuck with a stock Civic for too long. Just so once up unlock NOS and turbo, it feels rewarding.

Also the track design doesn't get praised enough imo. They have that right blend of realism and interesting twists to make it fun. Like the hills in chinatown, halfpipe in park for huge air, mini Great wall of China and the sewers.

>>718574083
The chinatown section is great.

>>718573989
>he doesn't still own his original GC from back then with the original games
lmao

>>718574083
Don't forget than one part on Chinatown reverse where you race downhill through the slums after the bridge where there is one bump that can make you crash into a corner if you just so happen to make the tiniest little steering motion right on that bump

>>718573687
OH no no non o

>>718573925
URL is the worst gamemode in the fucking series, the AI bulldozing you through corners like you aren't even there and taking unrealistic lines made every URL race torture, also horrible track designs.
>>718573989
Lots of ways to pirate them on PS2 (softmod or burnt games with patched out copy protection) or you can prove that you are smarter than third worlders and play them on PC instead, where you can mod them. There are plenty of modded cars made in the same style of the game, with implemented vanilla bodykits and underground2.net, a modpack that includes more customization options that also fit in perfectly with the aesthetic, plus adding the japanese exclusive Sha_do graphics to the western release.

Underground walked so Most Wanted could run, Carbon could step on its own shoelaces, Prostreet could violently shit its pants ten feet from the finish line, slip on its own shit, and faceplant into a mud puddle, and the rest of the NFS franchise could slowly die of sepsis.

>>718573687
>BECAUSE YOU WANT THE STUFF THAT COULD CHANGE YOUR FUTURE
Love it when the artists put their heart and thoughts into their songs

>>718574227
That damn draw bridge saved one of the marathon races for me when the AI somehow got stuck in it on the last lap.

UG1 is one of my comfort games.
I remember coming back home drunk and just doing a few laps before falling asleep.
Good times.
I prefer it to 2 simply because it's more "compact", so to say. I can't come up with a better term, I hope you know what I mean.
Although finally finding the proper setup for your car in UG2 is magical.

>>718574414
true, even just driving around in a stock car craps all over the newer games.

>>718574414
prostreet was actually good though
shift and shift 2 were the shit attempts at simcade

>>718574919
>compact
Because it's just a straightforward racing game with no real frills beyond the customization system. You race, you win, you upgrade or tweak your car, you go to the next race.

>>718574414
Wasn't HP2010 supposed to be fairly decent?

>>718575059
Prostreet is great. It just needs all the fan patches installed that unfuck the buggy game.

>>718575337
that's pretty much every nfs up until rivals though

>>718573773
I don't even know where I heard the news. I just stopped listening to them one day while playing maplestory and haven't listened to any of their songs since.

>>718575334
it only appeared decent because it was nostalgia bait and the two previous games were undercover and shift i suppose.

wicked

>>718575493
Up to Carbon they work fine out of the box, ProStreet needs the genericfix at the very least because the official patch, for some dumbfuck reason, limits the framerate to 30 and never fixed the infamous "continue bug", where the gmae would prevent you from pressing enter after a race and thus forcing you to alt-f4

>>718575334
nta but I've been playing through a lot of the nfs games recently (underground - mw 2012 so far)
hot pursuit was the only one I skipped just because it bored me so much
I get that it's an homage to the roots of nfs but I just did not enjoy

>>718575667
>Up to Carbon they work fine out of the box
I needed widescreen fixes and input fixes for quite literally every nfs game I've played so far

>>718575334
>every car understeers to a ridiculous degree because they expect you to drift through basically every corner
>car roster is overwhelmingly Porsches and Lambos even before the DLC adds even more (I guess not really a negative if you're into those)
>rubberbanding is some of the worst NFS has ever seen
>rapid response cop races where you have to drive flawlessly for miles are a nightmare at later stages
>unlock/progression system is messy and means you're still unlocking cars a tier or two behind where you are that you'll probably never use
>shit soundtrack with zero memorable songs
>Basically Burnout Paradise with licensed cars and blander presentation but nicer graphics

>>718575728
>I needed widescreen fixes and input fixes for quite literally every nfs game I've played so far
Those are not some gamebreaking bugs that brick the game. Just QoL fixes for modern hardware.

>>718575915
what's the difference? they still need to be installed all the same

>>718575728
>I needed widescreen fixes and input fixes for quite literally every nfs game I've played so far
yeah but the games worked, prostreet shits itself because of an official patch

i noticed how this game and u2 have better reflections than most modern games despite not costing any performance, kind of funny how older games just worked.

>>718575940
I already told you that in the previous post.

Prostreet's grind is ridiculous unless I'm doing something wrong. Feels like you get pocket change for winning and the cost for even basic upgrades is higher than it should be.

>>718576125
right, but my point is that bugfix or QOL - no sane person is going to play without them
they are all installed in the same way, so what is the point of arbitrarily separating the two?
they all still require some level of modding to play in modern times

>>718576152
try get your cars set early (eg designated grip, drag, drift)
don't buy cars, just use the ones you win
always dominate race days, you need to for progression anyways and the extra money helps
once you win enough drag races to unlock the drag tournament, you can bang those out pretty quickly

What are the best Need for Speed games or alternatively the best "illegal street racing" games
I was watching Initial D a few years ago and it was really scratching my itch for those types of games but admittedly I never got back into them
I played a bunch of Underground 2 as a kid and one of the PS3 ones, but I've no idea where to start
Also: do you play with the first person view, behind the wheel view or third person view?

retards endlessly complaining about u2 rating system "forcing you to pimp out your car" are the reason why there's barely any customization in racing games nowadays besides rims, stickers, and maybe a few spoilers if the devs are feeling freaky

>>718576205
The difference is that you can play Most Wanted and Undergrounds right out of the box. No fixes, no patches, no bullshit required. The motherfucking Need For Speed: Prostreet (2007) made by Blackbox and released by EA was a buggy mess in 2007 and is a buggy mess in 2025. The official patches only managed to make it worse and more unstable. Without fan patches the game would be unplayable and unbeatable. There is nothing arbitrarily when separating those games. One works, the other doesn't.

>>718576495
>best Need for Speed games or alternatively the best "illegal street racing" games
NFS UG/UG2, MW05
Midnight Club III + LA
>first person view, behind the wheel view or third person view?
cockpit when available, front bumper if no cockpit, and hood view if no front bumper

>>718576539
the amount of customization available was good, making more customizations mandatory for progression was retarded

>>718576539
It's also because that culture died in like 2006/7. Fast and Furious and Pimp My Ride killed it.

>>718576539
no it's not you tard, the ever increasing polycount and the literal death of the aftermarket body parts market are to blame, plus devs literally not knowing the first thing about cars, the only people researching and making bodykits for games today are assetto modders

>>718576495
tokyo extreme racer 3 since you're an anime and japan fan
have not played it yet(currently collecting dust in my ps2 iso game folder)
but it looks cool

>>718577016
TXR is Wangan Midnight, not Initial D. Hell, the Wangan Midnight games are just TXR with a different name.

am I just bad or is the drag racing actually hard as fuck? I beat the rest of game on hard and it was pretty chill except for the fucking drag races, had to turn down to normal for those even the early ones.

>>718577098
ok

>>718577323
Drag races are the worst part of the original UG. Your timing has to be pitch perfect or you'll miss shifts and quickly fall behind.

>>718577323
I hated them the first time I played
after playing the later games and their implementations of drag (like how most wanted absolutely fucked it with the retardedly windy tracks), I've grown to quite like how it is in UG
I still think prostreet had the most fun drag though, even if it was kind of a time waste

>>718577098
Then check out the Kaido Battle/Kaido Racer/TXR Drift series

>>718577323
There's some rng involved but most of the time they are beatable on hard with proper shifts. Stats matter also so some cars are better in drag races than others.

>>718573365 (OP)
>at the cost of my sanity
Skill issue. I've done the "hardest" race on hard first try on PS2 emulator, one of the shittier starter cars (poojo 206), and a controller which I'm not very good at using as I'm an old school PC master race.

>>718577457
You can absolutely fuck the early drag events in Prostreet by picking your favorite muscle car and doing the most basic tuning to it. Muscles dominate drag events and will probably carry you through the whole career there.

>>718577794
>old school PC master race
>emulating instead of running the PC version

>>718577871
I can attest to that. Picked an old Camaro and it carried me through all the drag events, including wheelie, though for more reliable results I had to tweak a little of rear suspension.

>>718577794
if you can beat every race in one go then you should consider speed running this game anon

>>718577871
you don't even need to tune desu
you get the 240sx free at the beginning and it can carry you through to endgame drag races

>>718577981
>wheelie
Always skipped those events whenever possible.

>>718577971
Believe it or not, but back then I had no internet and only PS2 ISOs collection, including all PS2 releases of NFS games. And I really wanted to do another playthrough of Underground - after all it's my first racing game I ever played.

>>718573365 (OP)
Loved this game. Does it run bug-free on pcsx2?

>>718573573
Being forced to rice out cars was lame

>>718578206
Absolutely, but >>718577971 makes a good point. Just play the PC version, it works just fine on modern computers and OSes.

>>718577794
>one of the shittier starter cars (poojo 206)
206 is one of the fastest cars in the game, it's like #4 fastest car behind meta cars like mx-5 rx-7 and skyline it's insanely good.

>>718573573
>pointless open world bloat with jackshit to do
>worse music
>worse aesthetic

>>718576539
Good, ricing sucked ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO3I7AHyMsU
yes

i hope tokyo xtreme racer gets loads more content when it leaves early access later this year

>>718578889
>the UE 5.5 update broke all the mods I downloaded
>mod authors said that they're not willing to fix them until the game fully releases

>>718573365 (OP)
I'm playing on hard, it's a lot of fun but yeah the tracks are super repetitive. I'm only 25 races in out of +100 and already getting bored of it. Why did they make it so bloated? My favorite missions are the races against the clock, they're so tight.

.>>718573687
Megalolz is definitely the weirdest part. I cringe every time it comes up but I can't help singing along.
Then Static-X comes up and I feel better, but then I feel bad again because of how Wayne died.

>>718573365 (OP)
Wait, so that's all it takes to make the best racing game ever?
Why can't they even come close then?

love how witty /v/ is the way they post the lostprophets stuff in every nfs thread
it's such a funny and unique joke

>>718579126
>start something
yeah, a long fucking jail sentence lmao

>>718579195
MEGALOLZ

>>718579195
MEGALOLZ

>>718576539
Like what Night Runners and TXR are doing with their customization. TXR's is a little more limited on bodykits and interior customisation at the moment, but I prefer the stamp liveries it uses over the DIY livery imports that NR does.

>>718579195
MEGALOLZ

>>718573365 (OP)
IM TIRED OF TRYING
IM TIRED OF LYING

>>718573365 (OP)
Yea racing games used to be bad until forza horizon 5

>>718573687
>MEGALOLZ
>look this up
HOLY SHIT!

>>718573687
When are they adding this one

This track playing during one of the 6 lap races is pure y2k ludo kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHY723OOG3g

>>718579492
his laptop password was "ifuckkids".

>>718579076
>until the game fully releases
its only like a month or two away, dude

>>718579794
I'm fully expecting another delay. I won't bead of they do, I just want the game to be as good as it can be.

>>718573365 (OP)
It feels off to me
Like the entire game is condescending

>WOAH! YOU'RE JUST A LITTLE TOO!
>JUST A LITTLE TOO! >WHOA JUST A LITTLE TOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

>>718579896
Dev here. We made the game specifically to mock you.

>>718579126
>Why did they make it so bloated?
If you win all races on first try the game's maybe 6 hours long, realistically with fails and restarts it's in the 8-10 hour range. Just how short do you want it to be?

My favorite was the muscle car

>>718578314
Really? Do you have a tier list? I'd love to see it so I can try this again on an actual shittiest car.

>>718581423
I can't find it anymore but I'm fairly sure that toyota supra is the slowest car in the game by quite the margin.

>>718581423
Plenty of those rankings on YT and Reddit
https://youtu.be/v3cSdqLX-Pk?si=VoHBWLMkwFOjGmKZ

>>718573365 (OP)
>even beat it on hard at the cost of my sanity
it is nit even that hard

>>718581889
>Miata #1
I had good taste.

>>718581702
That's mostly because it has absolutely garbage acceleration for the point in the game you unlock it.

really wish this game had a newgame plus mode where the second playthrough has every car unlocked from the start.

>>718581702
The Supra is a garbage tier car in every NFS it appears in. It's a shit car in real life too.

>>718582465
Nigga after you have finished the story you can literally play every single career mode race (save for the special part unlocks, unless those are regular sprint courses, can't remember) in single race mode.

>>718582568
but i like the progression

>>718582647
What progression could you get in NG+?

>>718582797
the exact same as normal but with the ability to play with the skyline or the rx-7 from event 1 instead of event 80 or whatever it is