Thread 718574794

>>718574794 (OP)
I actually really enjoyed that game. I was surprised by how much you could get fucked over by seemingly small decisions

>>718574992
I'm so keen for the sequel. This is like the last game I actually enjoyed playing. Easily one of my favourite games of all time teebeeaitch desu

>>718574794 (OP)
>>718574992
Is this game actual suffering or does it let you have fun?

>>718575424
It’s getting a sequel? That’s really cool

Roadwarden

>>718574794 (OP)
>The chud noble brother turned out to be based
>The rebellious peasant sister turned out to be fucking spoiled and useless
Funny how that worked.

>>718575632
Yeah, you play as Prince Jerian, I think it's happening concurrently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEg7WIfmIgE

>>718575792
already played it but it's good too.

>>718575581
It's fun and harsh, the first two chapters are free.

>>718576143
Grandpa was right. Your sister is the bane of the family.

>>718574794 (OP)
Suzerain?
Though I don't really like how the game is fairly long, and despite that you can fail some random shit and end up having to replay the entire thing from the start.

>>718576597
I like when you get his ghosts approval

>>718574794 (OP)
I picked the religious path, so I had a relatively smooth time with my run. Managed to get the best ending without needing to constantly consult a guide, too, although it required some delicate balancing in the final act. I should go back and experience the noble and peasant lots at some point, too.

>>718574794 (OP)
Suzerain
Aura Clash

>>718576630
Nah Suzerain is kinda boring.

>>718576742
Jeanne is the best woman in any game ever.

>>718574794 (OP)
There's a game I've been keeping my eyes on: Sacred Fire. It's in EA and should be released this year.
You can also start checking CYOA games, although most of them are shit. Some do stand out, like the Infinity series or Aura Clash. But they are all WIP.

>>718574794 (OP)
cyoaCHAD here

CRPGs
>Age of Decadence
>Space Wreck
CYOAs
>Roadwarden
>Sorcery!
>Suzerain
>Choice of Games catalog (varies from pretty good to dogshit)
>The entire interactive fiction space (mostly dating sims for women)

Ironically the full-fat crpgs here tend to do a better job of choice/consequence than the text based cyoas do. Cyoas tend to fall into the VN trap where they just have multiple routes. I loved Sir Brante but it does exactly this.

>>718577070
>>718577070
OP here, is Aura Clash actually decently written or is it a meme. I've yet to dive into CYOA as I enjoy a bit of music and visuals.

>>718577080
OP here, thanks for the recs. I've played most of em. Suzerain I found to be quite boring, Roadwarden is mostly kino and Sorcery! (+Sequels) are easily in my top 5 games.

>>718577204
>Sorcery! (+Sequels) are easily in my top 5 games
Based. I played Sorcery! when I was a kid and it never left my top 5. I tried contacting the artist to get prints of the maps but the jews at Inkle hold all the rights.

>>718577126
Don't expect to find Proust there but the writing is fun and comfy. I personally love it.

>>718576974
10/10, would cause another schizm in the church just to fuck her again.

>>718577204
If you liked Sorcery! I'd add Inkle's 80 days, worth at least a couple playthroughs.

>>718576667
>grandpa's ghost rises from the grave to help you kill that blue faggot
so kino

>>718577126
It's a solid, entertaining hero's journey with Xianxia flavor, written by an anon. It's in progress and on hold due to drama while anon ports it over to a different platform but there's a good amount of content for the time being.

>>718577276
I really wanted some of that artwork of the drugged out dark elves in Khare lmao, always stood out to me.

Thanks fellas, good thread to meet some fellow cyoaChads. I'll go down the cyoa rabbit hole.

>>718577676
there's a notgeneral on /vrpg/ about cyoa games

>>718577625
>>718577290
BASED AuraGODS

>>718578134
>red sun over paradise
KEK

>>718577736
Like all generals, it's complete dogshit though. OP made the right choice in coming here.

>>718578447
every general has it's share of schizos

>>718578696
For some reason, CYOA players and writers are full of troons, non-binary, and whatever. It's really hard to find something that has not been written by a mentally ill troon or woman.

>>718578134
This scene cracked me up

bumping for a true gamer thread (and more recs)

I've been playing alot of cRPGs and RPGs lately and I've added most of these to my wishlist.

Recently I completed KCD2, Pillars of Eternity 1+2, BG3 Honor Mode, and some others. How do you guys get past some games just feeling too old, or with systems so unfamiliar they become alien?

>>718574794 (OP)
I did a playthrough of this. I dislike how it allows you to just sort of fall behind and get completely fucked if you don't make the optimal choices. By the time I returned to my hometown, I felt like my stats were too low and I was basically wandering around getting boned.
The setting has some good ideas, some retarded ideas, it's a mixed bag. On one hand, the religion is somewhat cool and unique. On the other hand, the writing is often frustratingly one-note and fucking annoying. I think it's because they don't know what choices you made, so they don't know if you've already heard a given piece of information, so they just fucking beat you over the head with the same concepts over and over and over and over just in case you missed it somewhere.
Half of the events and conversations are just NPCs bringing up the same goddamn topics every time they pop up.
>"Oh boy, I sure do hate the caste system!"
>"Hey, did you know we have a caste system?"
>"Man, I'd really like to be in a different caste in the system!"
>"This caste system sure is something."
>"Did you know you were--"
FUCK, DUDE. I GET IT.
It had me so pissed off.

>>718579125
In fairness, mentally ill women can occassionally write something pretty interesting, even if that's a one in a million shot. I would also never want to interact with them, regardless.

>>718579125
It's because this shit is fiction adjacent and low quality fiction is nothing but women and porn-addicts.
>>718578696
The problem is that most of the movers and shakers in the cyoa space are the perpetual wip coomer dating sim projects, so that's what everybody talks about. That general is no place for talking about actual good games.

>>718579256
I can literally play anything if I can trick myself into thinking the prose is good. Which I have to do often, sadly.

>>718578134
is this new content?

>>718579516
yeah, like 200k words

>>718579576
patreon content?
i hope not

>>718579256
>How do you guys get past some games just feeling too old, or with systems so unfamiliar they become alien?
My advice is to try taking the game on its own terms and excercising some patience. Classic Fallout is a great example of requiring this mindset. Without guides there's a decent chance you'll create a gimped build that is a walking, unfun disaster. Yet it's that ability to fuck up that adds to the charm of the experience, and the knowledge you gain in the process will make a new attempt much smoother.

>>718574794 (OP)
So wait is this a visual novel but with death mechanics and is not completely a rigid story?

>>718579646
The credentials are openly posted on the /vrpg/ thread

>>718579712
nice thanks i'll look into it

>>718579646
here you go newfriend

>>718579743
I think the current log in is
patron
pw: keiko

>>718579707
Yeah it's a Choose Your Own Adventure game, you have different choices and outcomes. The main issue I have with Sir Brante is that the stats matter a lot, and the ending requires you to have the good stats.

>>718578696
every general just turn into discord eventually

>>718579256
by reading manual and avoiding guides
if you immerse yourself you will enjoy it(eventually)
its better to cut off net and have plenty of time to spare tho

>>718574794 (OP)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3117820/Sultans_Game/

>>718579829
Thanks, might check it out then.

Amazing thread, actually found out about some CYOA experiences I didn't know yet, even though I assumed I was an autist obsessed with this genre that wasn't shared with others.

I would recommend "Choice of Robots" It's the best of the "Choice of" series although it has a more niche appeal. It's about the protagonist making some AI. But what type of AI, the personality and abilities is decided by you and how you go through the story which impacts everyting, even humanity's fate.

Another more recent CRPG that I really enjoyed and managed to have proper choice & consequences although at a smaller scale is "The Necromancer's tale".

Full journey from regular dude to a full blown lich (if you choose so). What you are willing to sacrifice, romance options and how you go through this journey and what you use it for is all left to you. It has factions, side quests, reputation system and how discovered/secret your activities are which affect plot.

Do CYOA games solve the infamous problem of choices not mattering in RPGs? I've always envisioned RPGs having dozens of choices that lead to dozens of different outcomes that take you to all kinds of different places that will take many playthroughs to see all of but it's not really realistic for them and I'm hoping that since CYOA generally seem to just require writing, it should work out better

Are the Vampire the Masquerade ones that were released a couple years ago any good? Nightroad and Parliament of Knives stood out to me. Although having a gazillion dlc's put me off.

>>718582236
Night Road is very good.
Parliament of Knives is meh.
Sins of the Sires is dogshit.
The Book of Hungry Names is cringe.
The Beast of Glenkidove is good.

>>718582236
Some say they are good, but I find them all to be very cringe, including Night Road that is supposedly the best one.

>>718582318
What about Out for Blood?

>>718574794 (OP)
This was the best CYOA game I've ever played. I liked Roadwarden too but it's much more linear. Also TRIGGER WARNING has gays

>>718582668
dunno didn't play it

I know you guys probably already experienced it but Fate Stay Night is a VN that has a very "CYOA" feel to it with a lot of dead ends and little choices that impact the story a bit. I kind of hate that future visual novels went more towards dedicated paths rather than the more interactive elements of CYOA roots.

>>718574794 (OP)
Heads will roll reforged + dlc

What are some book recommendations you guys have? /lit/ is too much up its own butt and we all know other boards have the best recommendations. Wonder what cyaoCHADs would recommend.

>>718584029
Seconded, great game. Cringe ESL dialogues sometimes though.

>>718584059
I quite liked the Ravnica Cycle MTG books.

>>718584059
Malazan

>>718584059
My favourite books are:
- The Earthsea quartet
- Pillars of the Earth
- Elric of Melnibone
- Name of the Rose
- Invisible Cities
- Book of the New Sun
- Black Company
- and much more.

My favourite visual novels are the Misericorde series.

>>718584059
I read the Southern Reach trilogy recently and it was pretty good

>>718583054
YeAh, there are a couple of good vns that are very CYOA. A couple are on itch but most are on steam

>>718584352
>160 IQ requiered to properly enjoy it
Not a good recommendation to the average guy.

>>718581370
I liked choice of robots and life of a wizard, anything else like those? As in I see a lot of those games being emailed to me from their newsletter but they seem very very story focused while the ones I mentioned are pretty light and have a lot of branching paths
Also the ones in their emails tend to have "you can be non-binary!!!" which I honestly don't care that much about but I feel like this just ruins storytelling and possible romance by having to account for being gender neutral

>>718584716
Tin Star is really good, Zombie Exodus Safe Haven is great too.

>>718579157
>The weighted clothing stays ON
Based

>>718574794 (OP)
Really disappointing game. Felt like FTL if FTL only had the random encounters where you pick an option and get fucked randomly.

>>718574794 (OP)
The problem with this game is the is the conclusion being the same thing
If you want some REAL kino choice games, I have a few:
Bottom of the well, free, niche, very good. The story is a mystery to me to this day.
Long Live the Queen, don't let the cute girly anime aesthetic scare you off, this game is very good. It's a princess builder/Choice game.

>>718586358
Can vouch for Long Live the Queen. Genuine proper geopolitics and worldbuilding in that game, best played without a guide through trial and error. Reminded me of Suzerain.

>>718586358
The endings are very different depending on what you do, what?

>>718586616
the fact that you can have vastly different lives in your playthrough and they all go back to the revolt means not much matters in your journey beyond stats and relationships, it's lame

>>718586728
well you need to tie the story together in a way

>>718587384
The game you, or some other anon here called boring - Suzerain, doesn't do that. In Suzerain you can become a dictator imprisoning people you don't like or a radical reformer. You can avoid the fight with Rumburg or beat them.
It had radically different endings. Rizias expansion even more so. But in Brante they went the easy route when they could have done more. In my opinion you should have had an option to prevent the revolt before it even began. You should have had an option to stay in the capital. ect. It's a good game but the ending makes me not want to replay it.

>>718587917
I'm a Suzerainchad but I can excuse Brante because I like the worldbuilding and the whole caste thing. It's obvious the writing is not that good and that it's the studio's first game and it shows. I'll still buy their new game though.

>>718576974
>>718577332
was surprised how hot she actually looked when she took off the mantle
still, i chose to be a priest of the new faith so i couldn't save her in my playthrough

>>718579340
i agree that the writing can be repetitive, but i still enjoyed the game, especially the second half of chapter 4 and the entirety of chapter 5

>>718584059
i'm a big fan of faulkner, waugh, kafka, dostoevsky and proust

one of the better Choice of Games I played was Choice by Gaslight. It basically throws every single Victoriana trope together and runs wild with it. I've only played it once so I don't know how open-ended and reactive it really is, but I didn't get the feeling that the game strung me along a set path, my character went through pretty radical changes, from what I remember.
the VtM games suck. I only played Night Road, which is often called the best of the bunch, it was awful.

>>718574794 (OP)
I played this, and didn't suffer all that much

>>718589148
I may give it a check since I also found Night Road to be awful. Boring and pretentious.

>>718588858
>still, i chose to be a priest of the new faith so i couldn't save her in my playthrough
It's possible to save as a priest of the new faith, but I think you really need to pump the right stats for it.

>>718589304
i think that your "religion" stat has to be pretty high and mine wasn't (it was 13 iirc)

>>718589148
>I only played Night Road, which is often called the best of the bunch, it was awful
What didn't you like about it? I also disliked it, but I'm curious if our reasoning is similar. I hated how "gamey" it was: You do two sets of three missions where you just select the options that match your skills for the best outcome. And it's the same shit every playthrough with minimal changes.

>>718574794 (OP)
>romance the blue waifu
>she turns into an ayyy lmao
Did NOT expect that.

Times you acted like Sir Brante.

>>718588698
Sordland:
>Is a total bro and will unexpectedly join the war on your side if you accept his oil and do a little warcrimes with him.

Rizia:
>Is a snake who will twist and bend every word against you and is little more than a compulsive liar.

Look how they murdered my boy.

>>718589491
When I failed my studies because I became a political activist and returned home a failure and a glowie.

The religion path was really cucked imo, your brother absolutely moggs you by actually being a true saint.

>>718589643
>your brother absolutely moggs you by actually being a true saint
Did you even play the game? He only becomes one if you do very specific things in the story and cause that outcome

>>718589597
He has the upper hand in Rizia since he has control of Zille. In Sordland he needs you, not the other way around. He's a really funny guy though and having him join the Intermerkopum together with Derdia and Morella was the peak of the game.

>>718589429
just didn't feel like VtM. Or at least, not the VtM I know. I remember finding some issue right in the prologue, though I don't remember what it was. I didn't get very far, never finished it.
there was a not!VtM game some anon made, Vampire Lord or Vampire Count, something like that. I finished that one - it was somewhat amateurish, but it had a charm to it. Night Road was worse, and that was an officially licensed product.

>>718589970
The Vampire Regent, that's what it was called. 38 reviews on Steam, no wonder its author had to shill it here.

>>718589643
I got to have sex with my priestess nun wife, he did not. Bro can have fun being jesus christ or whatever happens to him on that route.

>>718589597
The devs did not give you an option to be as based as him, I would have used my emergency dictatorial powers to drain the swamp so hard it's not even funny. Yes I know the interior minister is part of the swamp, I'm the president. I can do things without her or fire her on bogus charges. Drastic times call for drastic measures.

In fact fuck the devs for not giving you a proper fascist playthrough which is what i went for every game and lost because it's borderline impossible to achieve. Also fuck the devs even harder for making me be married to a feminist.

Can you go full Napoleon in Rizia?

>>718589397
That's right. I'd thankfully managed to max out both of the main priest stats by the end of the game, so I was able to do it, but the game's a bitch when it comes to balancing stat increases with morale and so on.

>>718590640
Up to a point fight both Wehlen and Pales You can LARP as Holy King Napoleon.

>>718590281
you can have two political enemies killed and the other party arrested if you fund the secret police.

You can charm Ovid's no. 2 and make him betray him, then use the stipulation where you can appoint a new supcourt to delete him and get sycophants on your side.

turn the two industrialists against each other and tell coronti that you're planning to nationalize his shit, he'll waste that favor making you promise to spare him (then doublecross him by passing the national media council).

You can silence the bluds by passing that final offer their parliamentguy made and you still get to integrate bergia.

Agnland wants nothing from you except that highway and recognition for that island of theirs, they're cool if you fuck them on the steel tariffs otherwise.

Being a fascist is easy but somehow the game still thought i was centrist.

>>718589643
>your brother absolutely moggs you by actually being a true saint
Willist gigachad Brante literally becomes god, being a saint is nothing in comparison.

>>718589597
I had no trouble at all with him in Rizia. My trust bar with him was so high when we entered negotiations that I even alttabbed to look up how it worked because I thought I was misunderstanding the mechanic. We got along swimmingly and I didn't even give him my nephew (or was that a cousin? Either way).

>>718574794 (OP)
>goosebumps choose your own adventure

>>718591071
>easy
did you expand your powers? There's no way for anyone to do all of this without a guide. Expanding the presidents powers requires literally everything to be done just right. Even the fucking salad you pick at the restaurant is unironically critical to your efforts. No it is not easy, you just used a guide.

>>718591525
The salad is a meme i just had fricasse and gave her the basic courtesy of picking her meal first.

Just do the dinner knowing that she's not swayed by flattery but will eat whatever shit you feed her if you use legalese and act like you didn't skip ethics 101.

If all fails you can just alt-f4 and do it over because the autosave triggers AFTER you hear her verdict.

Ther only gamble i took was promising rickter an office which he never got because i got Victern to clean up and won at chess with Wormtongue (yes i admit i did a guide to win at imaginary chess with imaginary book moves).

>>718574794 (OP)
I played priest and noble when the game came out. Is lotless kino?

>>718591986
No bro the entire fate of the country is in fact decided by the salad.

>>718592329
Lotless can make mad bank if you run a regular bookstore, ironically making it the best for fixing up the family house and keeping Unity high enough to save everyone

>>718592541
Qrd on why the fate of the country is decided by the salad?

>>718594087
You need to convience a Supreme Court Justice to vote for you, and to do that you need to act in a certain way. You get a point if you eat the same thing she does and that point makes or breaks it.

I really enjoyed seedship, little mobile game thats more of a "choose your own ending game" were you try to not fuck up humanity's future by finding a new planet to settle

>>718596108
Thanks for the recommendation anon. There are a surprising amount of cyoa gems on mobile.

>welcome to the province once owned by a Heretic Mage who had to be overthrown in violent revolution, who burned the land so badly with cursed fire in defiance of the Gods that they have to import dirt to grow anything
>but despite being a traitor to both Empire and Gods his political and religious reforms, which are essentially the same thing in the Empire, still stand not just in the province but in the Empire as a whole
>so not only did he scar the land in a way not even the devout can heal he also upset the political and religious climate in such a fundamental way that it leads to the revolution at the end of the story, centuries after he's gone
>this incongruity is never really addressed

>>718578134
Iiiinteresting.
Also is there anything that gives me Sunless Sea feeling even though it's not realy C&C? No, many doors didn't cut it.

You guys liked Minds beneath us?
Also when is Vigilante diaries coming out

is too much of a VN to be included?

>>718597731
Isn't this about reading prompts?

>>718577290
Why don't we have Proust video games? In Search of Lost Time is already a video game title.

>>718584059
Recently gave Hemmingway a try. Definitely worth reading, if you haven't before. Some of his best known stuff is short and easy to get through.

>>718574794 (OP)
Similar but also not the same thing at all. Some of the mechanics are a little halfbaked due to it being a mobile game but the main part is solid.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/381780/80_Days/

>>718599775
Great game but the gay subplot ruined it for me.

>>718600063
>thing I deliberately engaged with and took choices for made it bad
Fascinating but adults are talking

>>718600063
You literally have to choose to be gay

>decide to be jack of all trades
>don't have enough for any university decision
>have to join le resistance with that bitch who I saved.

Loved Sir Brante. Hated Suzerain. Monk path best path

Bloodbath is the canon ending with how goddamn easy it is to get

If you like Suzerain, you should play The Campaign Trail. It's free, granted not all of the mods have CYOA but there are plenty with very in-depth paths, also some of the writing on these scenarios can veer from really good to annoyingly faggy but most of the time it's not a issue.
>https://campaigntrailshowcase.com/campaign-trail/

I hope we see more no good noelle again.

I became a priest of the new faith and converted jeanne ,we will be breeding like rabbits

>>718600263
>>718600445
I WAS BORN THAT WAY.

>>718600263
>>718600445
The faggot is jealous and pouty the entire game until you reciprocate. While that is funny, I don't want faggots in my fantasy worlds at all.

>>718577080
>>Choice of Games catalog (varies from pretty good to dogshit)
More like from dogshit to abysmal dogshit.
There's like 4 titles from the catalogue of hundreds that are worth playing.
The sole utility Choice of Games provides is giving access to a fertile ground for infinite patreon grifts that makes WEG scene look honest and competent by comparison.

>>718594494
That is not true!
People only get filtered because she sees through flattery and personal arguments. If you keep it impersonal and stay focussed on the legal underpinnings she will always fold.

Fuck the sister, utterly worthless foid.

>>718604101
>There's like 4 titles from the catalogue of hundreds that are worth playing.
Those being? I only enjoyed Choice of Magics and Choice of Robots.

>>718604947
Sabres of Infinity, Guns of Infinity and Lords of Infnity is just about the only vidya piece of fiction other than total war that uses napoleonic period as inspiration.
Unexpectedly Green Journey is also fantastic.
That's about it, really. Everything is either pure unfiltered fecal matter, a patreon grift or both.

>>718576575
Thanks

>>718605329
>Unexpectedly Green Journey
What a strange experience. It is really amateurish in a lot of ways but the commitment to the premise is unreal. Some of the minigame "routes" are pretty terrible though.
adventurer > priest/shaman > chieftan > arena fighter

>>718574794 (OP)
So, there's Six Ages: Ride Like the Wind, and it's sequel, Lights Going Out. It's fairly different, very sandboxy, with strong strategy elements. There's overarching story. It's nothing special in the first game, but the second one is really good, with pure kino ending.

King of Dragon Pass.

Only good CyoA coming through. 1000 hidden skillchecks and lorechecks for each choice, potentially dooming your entire run. And a RNG on top of it to promote uncertainty

>>718608548
>>718609000
based kodp samemind

>Genuinely enjoy the Choice Of and Hosted By games, even the god-awful ones like that superhero series I have fun 'playing' it
>Buy dozens of them as they slowly release on Steam because with the launch discounts and the full set bundle each new release was around $3 which I figured wasn't far off from what I would spend back in the day for some random piece of shit CYOA paperback from a used bookstore
>They keep releasing them faster and faster to the point where I stop buying them, and even during the big sales and with the bundle it would cost hundreds to catch back up
I hope they do some giga-sale at some point but if they don't I'll probably just stick to the higher production values ones like Brante and Roadwarden now. Even with LLM AI shit I still can't get enough CYOA

>>718611060
They're not releasing a lot of good games though, the last one I got that was actually good was Pon Para 2.

>>718611421
That's why I said I enjoy their shitty games most of the time too. The general rule of thumb is "Kevin Gold's games are good and the rest is probably bad", but Pon Para's after I stopped picking their games up so I haven't played it so I'll wishlist it now and snag it next sale since you're saying it's one of the good ones. I see it's written by Kyle Marquis which he's also written Silverworld which I started just recently and it's looking promising

>>718574794 (OP)
Suserain

>>718574794 (OP)
>people here went the chud route

>>718612835
>can't figure out which one is the chud one
>every route is the chud route

Play the Sabres of Infinity and the sequels, OP. They're excellent.