Thread 718577043

Why do they all cheat?
Why are they all toxic in multiplayer?

>>718577043 (OP)
Face-saving cultures are not conducive to personal integrity or healthy cooperation.

>>718577043 (OP)
Chinese people cheat in all aspects of life, everything they do is centered around cutting as many corners as possible to reach the desired end result with as little effort as possible.

>>718577043 (OP)
the idea of sportmanship only exists in the west, in the rest of the world if the rules doesn't explicitly say you can't cut off the enemys arm they will do it to get an upper hand

Add India to this and it's the 3 countries the world would be so much better off without.

>>718577043 (OP)
No integrity or honor, cheating is part of their culture.

>>718577826
I don’t see indians in online video games. I see them on social media, on the streets, at workplaces but thank fucking christ never in muh vidya.

>>718577043 (OP)
In Russia it's because they're miserable bastards and want to take it out on everyone else. Like that Dostoevsky passage about how Russian cart drivers would lash a horse about it's eyes even when it was clearly overloaded and couldn't move.

For China it's because cheating is seen as something that you have to do because everyone else is cheating. So if you're not cheating, you're falling behind and playing a sucker's game.

>>718577043 (OP)
Well, i don't.

>>718577043 (OP)
Russians can be very fun to play with. They probably cheat against you because you're either rude or sober

>>718577043 (OP)
Why do mosquitos bite? It's their nature. And you cannot overbite mosquitos, you isolate or exterminate them. You definitely don't play games with them, lol.

>>718581348
The national ethos of russia is to bring everyone down to their level of misery. That’s why they never were a great empire.

>>718581541
>russians have cheats installed just in case someone is being rude to them
sounds like a fine gaming culture

>>718577043 (OP)
>Toxic
buzzword invented by Jeffery "Riot Lyte" Lin to ban anyone he didn't like. The definition of toxicity is what he believes in and he got caught beating up women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irpLoGb4AI4

>>718577043 (OP)
Stats show europeans, swedes in particular cheat more than Russians per capita
Dunno about chinese

>>718583005
This and the european snobism assuming anyone who plays well = cheater because no one can play better than them (in their minds)

>>718577696
Given the amount of emphasis on achievement and recognition they pride themselves on it's weird how blase they are about creative sterility and stealing ideas in lieu of trying to make something that could compete in its own right.

t.ethnically Chinese (but culturally American)

>>718581348
>For China it's because cheating is seen as something that you have to do because everyone else is cheating. So if you're not cheating, you're falling behind and playing a sucker's game.
Bsically this. For a culture that love 0peace and harmony they are a tigers' den.

The whole cutting corners philosophy really undermines them.

Like if China could make knockoffs that were actually high quality then people probably wouldn't have the "cheap Chinese knockoff' stereotype view of their products, even if they aren't original.

It's the fact they're knockoffs that are noticeably and evidently worse than what they're knocking off that makes them notorious. The lack of care or desire to change that opinion is bizarre.

>>718583239
To the degree that "Peace and harmony" as an ethos was ever real it was only truly believed by a very small sect of philosophers and holy men. The average palace bean counter used it to make sure the peasants wouldn't kill him as he collected taxes and skimmed his share off the top, the royalty used it to keep the nobles in line, and the nobles used it to keep the tax collectors from stealing too much.

I think in general, Chinese people prefer a stable, status quo of people minorly backstabbing everyone else all the time to the all out chaos that would come from attempting to prevent all this low level shit behavior.

Couple of factors. First one is shame-centered culture instead of guilt-centered aka outside influenced morality rather than inside. If a person is taught that paying for his ticket in public transport is right thing to do (because you pay for service you use and so on), his inner morality will ensure that he will do so even in absence of outside control. If instead teach him that he have to buy ticket or inspector will issue a fee, it's outside control and as soon as possibility of inspection fade away, he won't pay anymore. More than that, he might attempt to gamble (because it's impossible to place completely fool-proof system) or even break rules to show how wealthy/powerful he feels he is and being able to pay fees without a sweat. Likewise, if your inner morality says that cheating is bad, you won't do so no matter if you are being checked for that or not, in absence of this inner control, it's either gamble, power show or simply waiting for a moment.

Other is how in both cases their culture only value "success" without any regard to how it was achieved. Chinese children are being taught that only perfect result matters and any flaw will be pointed out, anything "good" rejected for not being "the best" (which is wrong at its core - life is about growth, the process itself while perfection means the end of growth, a finality - and finality is death). They are rewarded for cheating if they avoid being caught and punished if they do not - but since only result matter, they would rather gamble. This way of thinking is antithesis of European (and by proxy, also American) one and must be taken in mind when dealing with them.

>>718583005
>>718583067
i get that you have this weird culture of blatantly lying as like a power trip but no ones buying it

>>718577043 (OP)
>removed oinkraine, Belarus and the rest of CIS
lol
also add Turkey and France

>>718583005
>>718583067
>one minute apart
Lol

>>718584442
Indians are notorious for the same ethos, cheating in exams, scamming people is not a problem for them and their shitty culture. Probably worse than China and Russia.

But jews are forcing them on us and use our toxdollars to accomodate them.

>>718585696
*tax