Thread 718585168

>>718585168 (OP)
I'd love this

Looks good desu, like an 'eck without a screen. The 'eck might be the most comfortable controller I've ever had, too.

I'd hate this

so when are they revealing this thing along with their new VR headset if they're both supposed to launch this year?

>>718585528

It’s not launching this year

Already got the best

>this analog stick position
There is a reason of why the xbox one controller became the standard, which is the position of the buttons, analog stick and the grip.
I don't see a reason to add two trackpad on a controller, when one is enough.

>>718585168 (OP)
>>718585528
>>718585559

https://xcancel.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1958024995273068544

>>718585829
>The Fremont will have a standard rx7600
Holy shit, that shit is gonna be expensive af for thirdies like me, l don't get why valve just didn't released a console with a weak laptop GPU alongside with a pcie x16 so the user could update later, this is gonna make the console much more expensive

>>718585168 (OP)
No thanks, I'll stick with the original. The right analog stick has absolutely no value.

>>718585829
Has this guy ever been right about anything? At this point looking through strings in Steam updates is like divining through tea leaves. Neither has any bearing on reality.

>>718585764
I used to think the same thing about the pads but I've grown to appreciate both depending on the game. For old school shooters I tend to use the left pad for weapon hotkeys, and the right pad I use for more fine aiming while still using the stick for general aiming. Of course a mouse is easier and more accurate overall, but I'm a sucker for handhelds.

>>718585753
GOOD MORNING, SAAR!

>>718587163
Yeah that might be a good reason, but if you are gonna use hotkey, l think a back button would be more interesting, today steam input let you simulate a mouse with your analog stick, for me the only reason to have a trackpad would be to use in desktop mode

>>718585168 (OP)
Single body controllers just don't make much sense when wireless is now so prevalent, since split controllers are better ergonomically and offer more functionality.
>>718585764
The Xbox layout became the standard because companies were cutting costs and outsourcing towards the end of the console boom and Xinput was incompatible with everything, but also easy to port from the 360 version.
The Xbox controller and dual analog control scheme is hot ass, it's not good at anything and the only reason it stuck around is because people thought that consoles were going to continue experiencing massive growth, so they gimped games to run on dual analog instead of superior mouse and keyboard.
We are currently 25 years down the hole and Z-targeting and cover based shooters still reign.

>>718585764
It became standardize because Microsoft forced it in windows, you stupid shitskin retard

>>718586456
Time will tell

>>718587757
>they gimped games to run on dual analog instead of superior mouse and keyboard
Most genres play like shit with 'superior' mouse and keyboard

>>718585168 (OP)
Steam deck is pretty damn comfy, I would love to have a controller derived from it.

>>718587948
>forced
Lol the ps4 was the most successful console in the last generation and the dualshock 4 worked great on steam, and yet devs always used the xbox layout in pc version and chinks always made a ripoff it, hell even Nintendo admitted the superiority of the xbox controller by making their controller similar to the xbox

>>718588750
Yes, you shit eating non white, forced. Microsoft made that controller layout and button config baked into DirectX. Every single PC game with their badging had to implement this layout. Fucking google it. Jesus. You spergs aren't even human.

>>718588136
>Mouse acceleration
>Poor support for key rebinding
>No hotkey support
>No effort put into making the control scheme work
Unless you're talking racing wheels and HOTAS, it's all down to not putting any effort into unfucking the control scheme. Mouse and keyboard isn't bad at genres, it's bad at specific games that are poorly ported.

>>718588970
Even if is true, why the developer's didn't let the player change the layout to the PlayStation version in the settings of the game, after all there are mods that change that, and most of the games have a PlayStation version, they could easily do that specially in ps4 era, where PlayStation was in it's peak, and most important why Nintendo which always made their own strange controllers surrendered to the xbox format?

>>718589740
>I'm a gay retard
>I won't look anything up
home come nintendo with no PC ports does their own thing!???!?!

>>718589851
>say buzzwords
>tell me to look for evidence when you're the one making claims
Good ol' /v/, never change

>>718589676
Mouse and keyboard is good for shooters because of the excellent aim, but most of others genres it doesn't really matter, l guess that's why developer's just skip or make half assed controllers to mouse and keyboard

>>718590139
Yes, shitskin, I told you to look at a basic mandate in DirectX

>>718590831
I already understand that, the thing is, why only have Xbox layout when they could put other layout on it, specially when it is something so easy, such as changing some PNG in game folder's, and just as you said before Nintendo never made a PC port and their pro controller is extremely similar to xbox.
Also if xbox controller is so bad why aren't there more controllers with dualshock format and xbox button layout like this one https://www.8bitdo.com/pro2-wired-controller-for-xbox/

>>718590519
In most other genres it still comes out on top, the only exception is probably fixed camera and/or tank controls, because in that situation you don't have the advantage of movement being partially steered by the mouse.
Mouse + the directional keys gives much tighter and more precise movement than dual analog.

>>718585168 (OP)
>haptic feedback nipple simulation pads
Valve has still got it

>>718585168 (OP)
FUCKING RELEASE IT ALREADY

>>718591821
Microsoft. Promotes. Microsoft. Products.

>>718587948
This and
>>718588970
This
Nintendo also arbitrarily put the stick in the reverse position to not be like Playstation. Trying to use a stick with your thumb fully extended is terrible since you can't move your thumb as fluidly as you would with it bent. The controller in OP is terrible because everything is out of easy reach besides the touch pads. Anyone can fully extend their thumb and try to move it smoothly in all directions then bend their thumb and move it and see the huge difference. They purposefully make flawed controllers and punish players just to not admit Playstation got it right.

>>718585753
Buy an ad

>>718593448
>Playstation got it right
The real solution is to just use gyro and have some kind of barebones flickstick thing the rest of the time, maybe even just use your pinky for it on a touchpad on the back of the controller because it turns out the PS Vita was right all along, fuck you guys, not only is Playstation wrong, but Sony is still right, the ultimate contrarian opinion.
Nintendo had it right all the way up to 8th gen by just not caring about dual analog.

>>718594124
I came around to gyro by replaying Wii and WiiU games with a DS4 on Dolphin. On Wii you had to sacrifice some shit to have the dual controls and simplified buttons, but with a regular controller motion controls can be good, and holding the controller sideways to steer but still use O or whatever to shoot or do commands is great. PS3 really ducked up with that weird motion controller instead of just the DS with gyro, it works so well. WiiU was also kino in theory but Nintendo missed the boat. Motion control and your own private screen for multiplayer is so good, and so many uses people didn't fully realize, like different POV's in Pokken and hide and seek games in Nintendo Land. Bonus points for being able to do the Gameboy parts of stuff like FFCC. Overall, motion controls and multiple screens were so botched in hindsight and we never got the full potential out of them.

>>718595575
Forgot to mention Splatoon motion aiming also working surprisingly well. So much untapped potential we just skipped over.

>>718585168 (OP)
Looks cool

>>718585753
Something smells like shit

>>718585528
>if they're both supposed to launch this year?
I see that you failed to understand the concept of Valve Time™

>>718585168 (OP)
Thank you Gaben I love you and please let me suck your cock