Thread 718604313

Miyazaki/Fromsoft Ruined Video Games Forever

How the fuck did he do it? He has the entire game industry worldwide wrapped around his finger. Every single modern game designer now plays follow the leader and tries to copy his games as much as possible.
Demon's Souls should not have been as influential as it was, Fromsoft doesn't deserve to be treated like gaming royalty. Miyazaki just makes the exact same game over and over and somehow each time its more successful? Why?
Remember in the 90's and 2000's when every 3D game had unique gameplay systems and visual style? What happened to that? Every studio just put their arms up, gave up and just admitted defeat to Fromsoft? Like Team Ninja had a long and storied history with making state of the art 3D combat systems far beyond what anyone else was capable of, but not now nope, They just follow Fromsoft and copy whatever Miyazaki shits out.

Fuck Fromsoftware and Fuck Souls/Sekiro

>>718604313 (OP)
Mediocre studio. God knows how they managed to survive until the release of Demon's Souls.

>Remember in the 90's and 2000's when every 3D game had unique gameplay systems and visual style
No, I do remember everyone and their mother making their own Resident Evil or Final Fantasy clones (with a spin!) in fact

>>718604730
yeah op is underaged

>>718604313 (OP)
The blame shouldn't lay at the feet of From Software. They didnt copy anyone.

Blame the shit developers who are lazy and just make copies of their games.

>>718604313 (OP)
a plague of overtuned boss fights from wannabes and Fromshit themselves. its gonna be a long ass decade. Chink/Korean soul slop and Euro slop like Lords 2

>>718604313 (OP)
You don't remember shit. He saved us from an era where every game had QTEs because people were trying to copy God of War.

>>718606805
Like?

>>718604313 (OP)
*Ahem*

>>718604313 (OP)
Remember in the 90's and 2000's when every 3D game had unique gameplay systems and visual style?
""""Unique"""""
>move around in a 3D space, jump, shoot, attack
All 3D games have been pretty much the same.

>>718607339
nta but GoW, Shenmue, Castlevania, Vanquish, Asura's Wrath, Resident Evil 4 and beyond, Bamham, Heavy Rain, Uncharted, etc.

>>718604313 (OP)
>tries to copy his games as much as possible
Other than dodging and parrying being more common mechanics, what are you talking about?

>>718606805
this, I will admit everyone copying souls gets tiresome but it's better than the road we were heading down

>>718604313 (OP)
>studio makes a series of good games
>GAMING IS RUINED FOREVER
brainrot

i don't know, I don't care about footfags

>>718605292
>They didnt copy anyone.
Didn't they admit the combat on demon's souls was largely inspired by ocarina of time's?
If anything dark souls have filled the void left by Zelda games, ACTUAL Zelda games people wanted, an outlook into what Zelda could've been if it wasn't for wind waker.

>>718611142
I don't think he said anything specific like that. He said OOT was a textbook on how to make a 3D action game.

>>718611359
In either way, Dark Souls (and Dark Souls as a whole) is just basically what zelda could look like if it did not lose its sense of artistic direction after Majora's Mask. 3D zelda games always had some good combat, with Twilight Princess being the best of the bunch, but zelda games are sadly just too easy that the combat's only fun if you pull your punches, Dark Souls fills a powergap left here and that's one reason the souls-like exists.

That said, the thing to blame about games not having an unique artstyle is not a dark souls problem, its a graphics problem, a presentational issue that stems from the simple fact that people just want realistic graphics and shit like that, and having medieval armors with that big realistic glitter = Good in the eyes of the normal person. Please stop thinking games should ever go back to 2000's edgy scrimblo bimblo artstyle where you play as a weregoblin elf and you kill shit with your big claws in a semi cartoony world. That's just begging for a flop.
>OH BUT MUH SOUL
Soul ain't profittable anymore.

>>718605440
I want Americans to make RPGs again, they were so fucking good at innovating it.

>>718604313 (OP)
From created a genre-defining masterpiece that will studied and imitated by scholars for ages to come and theres nothing you can do about it other than seethe

This series is more Zelda than Souls games but nobody bats their eye on it because it's not Japanese.

>>718604313 (OP)
>Remember in the 90's and 2000's when every 3D game had unique gameplay systems and visual style
No because that never happened you zoomer faggot

>>718604313 (OP)
Huh? How?

>>718604313 (OP)
>How the fuck did he do it?
He made a game that was popular and well recieved.
People have been making cheap copies of popular games for as long as gaming has been a thing.

>>718611871
The lesson every dev should take from FromSoft is to misappropriate and misinterpret what a client wants into funding your studio's passion project. Sony wanted Oblivion for the PS3, Fromsoft "obliged" until Sony sabotaged it but by then all the work and ideas was already laid out and the studio can proceed without them to refine it.

>>718604730
Did you play, like, 6 games in total?

>>718609381
He said games from like 2006 to 2013 were all QTE's and you're naming some literally who games.
>Heavy Rain
What else would it have?
>Uncharted, Batman
Sure thing, man.

>>718607456
Soulstroonies don't even know the GOAT is

>>718604313 (OP)
It's not really From's or Miyazaki's fault that Dark Souls 1 was overhyped by everyone and their mother for being le hard. Soulshitters did that, whilst completely disregarding the setting, tone, atmosphere, visual aesthetics, and music. They fed From and Miyazaki, and by extension everyone else, this idea that their shitty formulaic gameplay being hard is the be-all end-all of their games.

>>718604313 (OP)
Totally organic astroturfing this past week about Fromsoft

>>718604313 (OP)
>thousands of dark souls clones, not one sekiro clone
its a tough world out here sekiro bros

>>718604730
generic mascot collect a ton too. then in the 2000s everyone was copying max payne and god of war

>>718614048
but they are all sekiro clones with fixed characters and parry-focused combat
the number of "soulslikes" that actually do RPG mechanics like dark souls is relatively low

>>718604313 (OP)
competency crisis

>>718604313 (OP)
he made one good game

>>718604313 (OP)
>They just follow Fromsoft and copy whatever Miyazaki shits out.
>t.clearly haven't actually played nioh
Nioh is as much of a action game as NG but you niggas don't wanna admit it because there's a stamina bar(that has an actual mechanic surrounding it unlike ds), dodge button, loot, and you can't jump.
>Le sOuLsLoP
kys

didnt read a single word

>>718616820
loot in nioh is frankly just annoying, also it's used as an excuse to not offer a wider array of weapons. also, in most souls games you can't jump. the ninjutsu and onmyo magic system is based though.

>>718604313 (OP)
>How the fuck did he do it? He has the entire game industry worldwide wrapped around his finger.
Because soullike are basically Berserkesque and Berserk is the most normiest shit ever made

>>718604313 (OP)
It's sad. Rollslop was never good

>>718604313 (OP)
I don't blame Miyazaki for what modern gaming has become, but I do blame him for buying into his own bullshit and becoming a parody of himself. This DLC is genuinely one of the worst things I have ever played, a fucking disaster that could only exist with Miyazaki being too scared to ever meaningfully innovate on the same basic combat mechanics all while feeling compelled to up the ante further and further with bullshit to keep his 'prepare to die' gamer rep. It's such a fucking disaster of design that it deserves to be studied.

>>718604313 (OP)
>Putting the blame on the pioneer instead of the talentless copycat faggots unable to come up with anything new/better
doesn't make sense t b h, they could make their games play like Bayonetta or KH2 but that would take actual developmental skill (which they don't have) and it's easier for them to download the "soulslike action pack" off the unreal engine asset store and tweak it slightly than actually put the work in designing something original and fun

>>718604313 (OP)
I would be more worried about gacha and other live service slop corrupting the industry instead. Fromsoft is consistently releasing quality games complete with online multiplayer modes and not a shred of MTX. The only ones that has anything to gain by discrediting them are greedy chinks and shitty companies like Capcom and Activision/Blizzard.

"Souls-Likes" are not even that big of a genre. Why do you retards act like every game coming out nowadays is a Souls-like?

>>718604313 (OP)
>the exact same game over and over.
Hmmm, where did I see that?, ...oh yeah, everywhere!.
Shut up, fag.

The true start of rollslop

>>718604313 (OP)
Not his fault the industry is creatively bankrupt and just copy what's successful.

>>718612292
I've been alive longer than you so no.
>Wizardry becomes mildly popular
Cue Might and Magic, Dungeon Master, Eye of the Beholder, SMT, Shining in the Darkness and what have you
>Ultima becomes mildly popular with 4
Cue Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy and what have you up to this day with Larian still rehashing what Ultima 7 did back in the days
>Mario Bros becomes popular
Cue a literal explosion of mascot platformer for half the 80's well into the mid 00's, there's probably more dead mascot platformers characters like Alex Kidd than games in entire subgenres
>FF7 becomes very popular
Cue a decade of equally dogshit moviegames like Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Skies of Arcadia and what have you
>Resident Evil becomes popular (after copying Alone in the Dark in the first place)
Cue Parasite Eve, Dino Crisis, Galerians, Countdown Vampires, Martian Gothic etc. and this becomes so incestuous fucking Alone in the Dark starts aping Resident Evil as well with the fourth game
>Street Fighter 2 becomes popular
Cue Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury, Samsho, Mortal Kombat...
>Pokemon becomes popular
Cue Digimon, Monster Rancher, Jade Cocoon and what have you up to Palword

I can go on, but yeah, absolutely NOBODY was blindly fucking following trends and chasing the golden goose until Miyazaki shat out Dark Souls 1, right? No sir, the industry was totally full of creative geniuses before that chink came around...

>>718604313 (OP)
like, when everyone and their moms were making the next great WW2 FPS game?
were miyazaki and fromsoft guilty of that too, anon?

>>718621725
>Why do you retards act like every game coming out nowadays is a Souls-like?
Because anything that's ever been in Dark Souls that shows up in other games is now attributed to Fromsoft. Just dodging/rolling and parrying is enough for some people to label a game a souls-like.