Thread 718606651

What is the actual use case? You are basically worse than stock until you have two headshot kills, and only better after 3. It's literally only good if the enemy team is feeding you headshots or you're raping the other teams snipers. Literally just use the stock.

well yes
its a weapon that rewards you for being really good and isnt worth it if youre not
it incentivizes you to stay alive and aim for the head
you literally just explained it, how aren't you getting it?

Its a nothing weapon because you should be hitting quickscope headshots and both the penalty and benefit do not interact with that mechanic at all
It only exists to let you better destroy buildings since they dont have heads

>>718606651 (OP)
It's a direct upgrade once you've gotten 3 kills in one life. That isn't hard at all. The eyelander is the same way. The airstrike is a mixed bag, having a bunch of downsides that come with the extra rockets but obviously an 8 rocket AS is better than stock.
The fact you can look at a weapon which only need 3 headshot kills to become better than stock and still say "stock is better" is a testament to TF2's balance. If it was objectively better than stock that would be very bad.

machina is the best sniper primary but I never see it being used because sniperfags care too much about their epic skins

>>718607767
machina has one upside that only works at full charge and one nasty downside that is present at all times
it's worse than stock by every metric

>>718606651 (OP)
>two
(You)'re bad at math lmao

100
50
62.5
78.125
...

>>718610378
I really hope this isn't the way it works, because I assumed it would work the way OP did. That would make this weapon strictly worse until after the 4th headshot kill, at which point it's only a 22% increase in charge rate. Only advantage to this operation is that it takes 7 kills to reach 200% instead of 8.

>>718611673
That other anon is retarded. The stats listed are with respect to base stats. You can easily verify it yourself too. 2 headshots puts the charge rate on par with stock.

I'd say
>Is direct hit/blutsauger for X class really that confusing of a concept for people
But then I remember people were screaming and shitting about the loch and lode and that got nerfed.

>>718607767
The Machina changes nothing, the increased damage doesn't hit any breakpoints. A Soldier is a two shot whether you are using the Machina or stock with the added detriment of not being able to noscope low health targets. It's ass.

>>718611970
1 additional pipe and no longer taking increased self damage is way more meaningful to have than 20 damage that doesn't help you hit any important breakpoints on players except against battalions/box soldier and dalokahs heavy (except he'd need to wait for you to reload a shot to land the third).
Old loch only 1shot light classes due to damage spread, but thats a thing of the past. And demo hated damage spread anyway since it meant you could never really rely on pipes to get clean damage to kill soldiers.

>>718606651 (OP)
it's the pub stomper

>>718606651 (OP)
i recently started playing this game again for a bit and i was reminded just how much i hate playing against sniper
it's especially bad on the new map citadel, that map has insane sightlines at some parts
also what the fuck is this new captcha

It's the "Im a good sniper" badge

>>718613268
Citadel has a huge skybox if a sniper is giving you trouble you should bomb him into the stoneage.

Hitman's Heatmaker is more of a nothingburger sniper rifle outside of MvM.

>>718606651 (OP)
if you are good with sniper its probably the only gun you should be using desu, besides maybe a machina

Started playing again after a hiatus and man the summer maps are dogshit.

>>718613619
>he doesn't know the focustech

>>718612018
you play against soldiers that waddle around the map on 200hp and never rocket jump?

>>718614145
The only actual bad one is that oil rig one.
The rest are pretty fun.

>>718614589
>soldiers that waddle around the map on 200hp and never rocket jump?
Average Black Box Conch Escape Plan pussy plays like that despite having 500 hours on the class

>>718614589
Soldiers are rocket jumping to the next health pack so they can continue rocket jumping.
The 15% extra damage in full charge isn't going to matter except to 1-shot pain train demos or people already injured.

>>718606651 (OP)
aimbot

>>718613268
when i got that captcha, i was literally IP range banned from posting anything. it used to only be for threads, but it expanded to just normal text posts in threads as well. sometimes you could "bypass" the captcha by just typing the letters with white circles above them, or only black circles, and it would close the reply window, saying that your reply was posted, but when you went to refresh, it never actually did.
must be some new anti-spam security measure or something, just restart your PC and reset your router or whatever if you have dynamic IP so it changes to something different that doesn't have that shit attached to it.

>>718615425
Holy fuck you cannot be this retarded, do you niggers really struggle with Captchas? I guess it's doing it's work.