Thread 718623908

Elden Ring. Wide as a fucking ocean, shallow as the piss I took this morning.
If you have to go to a dungeon and that dungeon only has 2 items to pick uo, youre just wasting my time

>>718623908 (OP)
>shallow as the piss I took this morning.
I usually have to pee really hard, you should see a doctor about your no peeing very much problem, anon.

God I love how angry this game still makes you.

>>718623908 (OP)
okay, sounds like you bounced off this one, you can always just quit and go play some other, less relevant game instead

>>718623908 (OP)
Go play some mobile game or a looter shooter if you need to constantly be drowned in rewards

>>718624120
journo mindset

>>718623908 (OP)
How many daily seethe threads are we at?

>>718624120
>Fromsloppers when Hackzaki shits in their mouth for the 5th time

>>718623908 (OP)
>thousands of non-essential shit
>"nooo I have to collect them!"
Sounds like a (You) problem, I made a B-line to the ending on my stealth run.

>>718624984
Play the fucking game RETARD.

Plenty of literally clone caves have essencial items.

>>718625132
And so many more of them don't

>preventing yourself from enjoying one of the greatest game of all time to score points with contrarian losers on a basket weaving forum
you are nothing but a cuck

>>718624984
how do i know where the good or bad stuff is unless I go into the dungeon?

>>718625462
Doesn't matter because if you're playing blind you have to poke one by one to find important items like keys and trapped npcs.
This shit is why I still beg for Sony to please release Bloodborne on PC.

The amount of cliffs in this game to prevent you from going from A to B in a straight line is aggravating. Literally artificial longevity.

>>718625975
>>718625979
Have none of you ever done a second play-through? It's an RPG btw.

>>718626253
so what?

>>718626364
So you didn't beat the game

>>718626253
Cant wait to spend hours running with my horse back and forth across these empty fields a secind, third, fourth and so on time

>>718626253
But how do I know where the good or bad stuff is?

Wiki game, carrot-on-a-stick but there's no carrot.

>>718626416
Nta but im at 80 hours and just defeated the bitch with the big plump feet. The castles are the best part of the game because thy feel like actual Dark Souls

>the reason to go to a dungeon is the jpg you pick up
You know, you could just not play the game if doing so is just a hassle for you.

>>718626618
Wiki??? Insane take. You fail NPC quests if you look wrong at an NPC. You need a full blown walkthrough to play this garbage.

>>718624120
Because it's won. It was hyped, delivered and universally praised like no game since n64 Nintendo first parties. They can only cry on /v/ which will just get more people to replay it instead of ever effecting it's reputation.

>>718626568
By playing the game once

>>718626527
I bet you don't even re-watch movies

I love guess-based combat where you only win because the AI glitched out

>>718625630
>one of the greatest game of all time
Bait.

>>718626791
It's the GOAT and you can't change that lol

>>718626761
skill issue

>>718626856
Wow you definitely noticed that on your first playthrough.

>>718626768
Why the fuck would you ever rewatch a movie?

>>718623908 (OP)
TRVTH NVKE
disappointment of the decade

>>718623908 (OP)
Not enough scripted walking sequences and yellow paint for you?

>have to guess that you need tocfind grapes to give to a blind bitch that only appears if you start her quest in an area that you might not even go to in order because the game is open world
>Slurpdrones think this is good game design
Ohooh and the fucking rat ahahah you need to randomly guess he's stuck in a cave

he filtered billions

>>718626768
so all I have to do is see the credits and then every position of every item will be revealed, and then I'll know which item is worth something?

>>718626953
>bamco employee reply

>>718626840
It's a generous 7/10.

>>718626956
It's OKAY to not find and do everything

>>718626791
>common opinion is bait
Give me your top 5 right now.

>>718626956
>optional quest with a few lines of dialog total, less than a minute
>because I can miss this game is bad
lol

>>718626934
Chasing heels is a Dark Souls staple

>>718627014
>>718627058
But what if its important? What if it unlocks more content?

>still has the best overall area design in all of FromSoft's ludography despite its shortcomings
And nobody knows who was the design director behind it.

>>718626937
Because a story is completely different once you know how the story ends.

>>718626993
No, you must actually play the game once.

>>718627116
It's not, you don't even need to do it to unlock the frenzy flame ending

>>718627068
Convenient he didn't do the beyblade spin he does 99% of the time. Almost like his AI performed an unexpected behavior, and you caught it on camera.

>>718627007
What is an example of a 10/10 then?

>>718627014
>don't explore
>cant find enough keys to oopen gateways
No.

>>718627137
Nah it was novel for the time but it's nothing special

>>718627216
kenshi, made by one guy

>>718627216
Sekiro

At least that game doesn't have bullshit. You use your skill to beat it.
Meanwhile even Mitazaki tells you to use ever cheese strat in Elden Eing.

>>718627194
That's because you go to his left side, instead of his right.

If only I had a giant But hole...

>Sekiro
Every time it's the new bloodborne a mythical perfect game no one wants to play

>>718627226
It's still novel on how labyrinthine and interconnected it all is. It clearly isn't Miyazaki's decision that did this, it was someone or a bunch of other people's decision to do so since the subsequent games abandoned or lessened the notion of being in a dense and compact world.

>>718627218
There are no mandatory rewards behind gateways.

>>718627137
It really didn't past a certain point but of course a poser than doesn't even play the game he jerks off on /v/ would know that. DS3 and ER have plenty of locations that are better designed than the ones in DS1 but apparently it doesn't count because they're not interconnected by a long corridor or hilariously long elevator ride. DS1 is a great game but it's also old as fuck and has been surpassed multiple times already by BB, DS3 and ER.

>>718624120
FPBP
/thread

>>718626949
That goes to Dragon's Dogma 2

>>718627374
If leyndell and the sewers were in souls theyd btfo any other game in density and vertical integration

>>718627409
what the fuck is a mandatory reward to you
can videogames even reward anything, they cant, they suck

>>718627312
How'd you manage, lucky guess or trial and error.

>718627435
Aaaaaand we got the combo

>>718627409
But if you find those thinds tou obviously going to be curious and want to explore.
Also there's that key behind that dragon that you need to go to the academia castle. The game forces you to explore a ton or use guides (mandatory 2bh)

>>718627005
Back to Candy Crush with you

>>718627496
>lucky guess
>trial and error
same thing

>>718627515
LMFAO THEY LITERALLY CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES

The most cock sucked game ever made.

>>718627254
You have an exceptionally dogshit taste then. You can rest easy since your status as a contrarian is safe.

>>718626953
you have yellow GPS instead lol

>>718627515
legit what autism leads a person to do this?

>>718627663
>literal yellow paint
he didn't think that one through

>>718627463
>what the fuck is a mandatory reward
Something required to progress the game, like the Rold Medallion.

>>718627216
Dark Souls 2
Skyrim
MGS V
Hotline Miami
Mad Max

>>718627663
it's more of a "go in that general direction, stupid" kind of thing

>>718625979
You can play bb on PC right now in sixty fps.

>>718627720
Dark souls 2 was my favorite souls game until ER lol you need a better hobby

>>718627216
A 10/10 would be a game with absolutely no flaws. Such a game has never existed.

>>718627770
>it's more of a "go in that general direction, stupid" kind of thing
like yellow paint?

>>718627717
that's a key not a reward
that's like saying that the 60 bucks i gave for the game were a reward to fromsoftware for making such a dogshit open world trash piece of crap
>>718627770
and the map parts are marked on your map by default
and the dungeons are marked on it too
it's literally ubisoft game design but without random events
>>718627891
well it's still my favourite souls game

>>718627520
>But if you find those thinds tou obviously going to be curious and want to explore.
>The game forces you to explore a ton or use guides
Do you want exploration to be rewarding or not?
>there's that key behind that dragon that you need to go to the academia castle
You mean the key whose location is marked on a map you get in front of the magic gate that it must open?

>>718627663
Which apparently still to subtle for you, hence the million "where do I go" threads after its release.

>"DKWAK SKWAAAAK MIYAZAKI IS BASED HE'S BASED! HE WILL NEVER ADD AN EASY MODE TO APPEASE TO THOSE FILTHY CASIALA!! SQUAAAK!"
>literally adds checkpoints
>literally adds offline summons that make every boss trivial
>everything is a cheese strat
>multiple ways to cheese a boss even without using those strats
>broken level scaling
>infinite XP farm right at the begining of the game
>easiest iframes in all series
>easiest parry
>jump making some enemies irrelevant
>blood being incredibly OP
>incantments the most broken in the entire series
>horse battle trivializing every boss outside of important areas

coworker soulslike

>>718627720
>Dark souls 2
Lol

>>718628005
And yet you still pissed your pants at every boss.

>>718626728
This argument is pretty flat when it’s the same fucking content 8 times with the exception of that jpg.

>>718628092
>>blood being incredibly OP

>>718627987
me and my discord buddies made all of them after finding the game too hard, that's true
>>718628092
that's true too but then i found a random AoW that killed every boss in 3-4 hits lol

>>718628047
TRVKE

>>718628005
Forgot to add how easy is to stagger bosses. There are bosses thst won't do a fucking thing to you if you hit them with a heavy weapon.

The most cock sucked game in the history of cock sucked games

Still no head.

>>718623908 (OP)
How is Dark Souls 1, a nearly 20 year old game, 100x better than Elden Ring?

>>718627169
So what's the point of the quest or the character then? If it adds something, I should be able to do her questline without accidentally failing it or requiring a wiki. If it doesn't add anything, then there's no reason for her to be included.

>>718628521
Intentional level design, for one, but most important DS isn’t scared of its own shadow. ER wants to be big, and thrives on bombastic moments, and everything between those moments is filler. In DS it takes its time unwinding into a detailed but pretty quiet world. Soul / soulless is a stupid metric but that’s a basically accurate shorthand.

>>718628140
>>718628182
You control the builds you make.

>>718628562
That’s stupid, anon. It doesn’t add any content, it adds an ending. If you looked in the dictionary for the definition of an easily missable but still valued questline in a game that would be the example. It only holds no value if you don’t care about the story, and its value is only elevated if you already have a top down perspective of the story by completing it once already.

>>718623908 (OP)
Then don't do them.
You don't need to 100% the game.
The average first playthrough will still take you like 100 hours, even not doing that.
Some dungeons have great treats in them for those that like to explore but you don't need all that to have fun.

>>718629213
>Some dungeons have great treats in them for those that like to explore
How do I know which ones? The only alternative is that I go in all of them.

>>718629349
You don’t that’s the definition of exploration

>>718629016
bit of a post-hoc justification, no?
think about it, if the only way a questline is valuable is when you already know how it works, then the game has failed to deliver that value on its own terms, right? thats dependency on outside knowledge.
Id go so far as to say having to use the wiki is no different a journal being in-game with a map marker. i like the idea of having to find things out on my own, but the way its implemented in ER is more annoying than anything

Japanese games fool the masses by a boatload all because they add fuckable waifus

>>718629349
Yeah, the first time. I had fun exploring in my first playthrough, and i have fun charting me course across the world to get what i need for a build.
At the very least, killing enemies in dungeons gives me runes to level up with, which are always useful.

>>718626949
Correct

>>718627435
False

>>718623908 (OP)
Maybe the Elden Ring in the Dungeons were the friends we met along the way?

>>718628521
More compact. Much better game design.

>>718626131
Would you really prefer the map to be effectively a flat plane?

>>718624501
Why are slavs like this? The poo in mouth obsession is so subhuman.

>>718625132
There are no clone caves.

>>718629729
That's already what it is, a flat plane with walls so you cant get to content

>>718629570
> if the only way a questline is valuable is when you already know how it works

I didn’t say it holds no value, I said its value is elevated. If you chance into it a first time around it’s just a unique story experience to compare to your friends. If you missed it, it’s something to circle around to. There are lots of things to complain about in Elden Ring, this is not one of them.

>>718628267
>Forgot to add how easy is to stagger bosses. There are bosses thst won't do a fucking thing to you if you hit them with a heavy weapon.
Oh but that was based and hardcore in DS1, right?

>>718629510
If "some" dungeons have great treats in them, then I'd have to explore nearly all of them. If its dungeon number 89 that has the good stuff in it for me, then I'm still having to go through dungeon 1 through 88. I'd still have to visit 90 to 100 to see what they have in there, just in case there's good stuff.

>>718629648
Kinda just running on horseback in straight lines to get the shiny, then move on. This idea of charting through the world to complete your build is either from already obtained knowledge or having to use the wiki to know where it is. it was fun to explore Limgrave and Weeping Peninsula, but that luster wore off quick when it was the same ol' ad nauseum.

>>718629729
Id prefer the Skyrim approach to not have my time wasted going around sharp cliffs.
Nightrein lets you ride eagles for a reason

>>718629792
But figuring out how to get from point A to point B is part of the content. It's an exploration game.

>>718629784
Literally every cave is a copy of the next one. Same as the forts and churches.

>>718629883
it's a field with arbitrary walls so you can't access content

>>718629729
>Miyazaki gives the player a jump button
>also gives the player a double jump button
>makes the entire game flat
Devilish

I was enjoying Elden Ring and was fighting the dragon in Limgrave. It was a tense battle, lots of back and forth. At some point however, I summoned Torrent to flee the dragon's fire breath and it ended up despawning. I moved back and the dragon just faded back into existence. It was at that moment that my excitement plummeted, that I was snapped back to the reality of Elden Ring being another mediocre From Software title.

>>718629937
You cant jump over sharp cliffs. The map is very flat most of the time. With artificial cliffs blocking your way.

Also there are no rivers. I don't know what the bears even drink

Kalameet is the best dragon fight in the series and he's from DS1

>>718630074
>what do the bears drink?

>>718630074
>I don't know what the bears even drink
Your tears

>>718630074
Nothing dies anon. Death doesn't fit into The Greater Will's plans.

>>718630205
shut the fuck up loser

>>718630241
I'm not the one asking why video game bears die of thirst

>>718629917
You are retarded.

>>718629907
No, the caves actually all have unique layouts.

>>718629812
That's my issue with it. I'm not trying to rude or anything, but I don't think it's unique to stumble into a quest line by accident. I think it's better to meet this person and say "I'm going to see what they have to offer", instead later on when I can't find them, it's because i failed the questline and have no idea how I failed it. thta's assuming there's even a clue that I did fail it. It makes this arbitrary back and forth or resorting to use outside information. I don't think that FromSoft's quest lines work at all in an open world game. It worked before because it was linear, or at the very least, it was much harder to miss them. I don't think it should be an accidental thing on a third playthrough where I'm likely to start skipping more content upon subsequent playthroughs as opposed to doing more. Yeah, the mystery of finding my keys might be fun, but getting to drive my car to work is much more valuable to me.

>>718630074
They take the elevator down to Siofra River DUMBASS IT'S RIGHT FRACKING THERE

>>718630428
wow the only interesting thing about the game is an elevator ride

>>718630369
>caves all have unique layouts
so does Skyrim :)

>>718630369
>No, the caves actually all have unique layouts.
Yeah, tbey change the rocks here and there

>>718630557
>you see that mountain?
>you can't climb it
Checkmate ToddFags

>>718630428
the bears exceed the maximum capacity for the elevator
you need to study the lore more

>>718629917
>content content content
Brainrotten Tik-tok addicted zoomer retard. Go get your instant gratification dopamine hit elsewhere and don't come back until you can talk and act like a human.

Why people shit on Ubisoft game design but defend Elden Ring when they're the same thing?

>>718631530
Because ubisoft is bad at it

>>718624341
>>718624501
Proving him right.

>>718624038
I think he means the game is his piss streched as wide as an ocean.

>>718632296
no I think its about how he uses the ocean to wash away his pee, like tears in rain.

Is there a lore explanarion for this uv map?