Thread 718641756

Maybe you should try quitting your job.

>>718641756 (OP)
im currently replaying this for the 200th time but the better version human revolution

>>718641756 (OP)
Just did a play through of HR the other day. The piss filter wasn't nearly as bad as I remember it being. It's pretty obvious that the studio entered a serious crunch time when they were developing the Picus offices / Montreal. The boss fights aren't bad (except against Hyron) but it's clear that effort should have been put elsewhere in the game. I really dig the dialogue conversations with certain NPCs, so it's a shame the game included a social enhancer mod. Also, Radar 2 "upgrade" is an absolute pitfall.

I think what makes the game "work" for me is that, for the most part, the dialogue and story makes sense. One criticism I've seen for HR is that it doesn't cover ALL of the conspiracies. Well... That would have been a terrible decision. HR just focuses on one PART of the global conspiracy, which is human augmentation. It could have gone further with the topic, especially by introducing a faction or characters who believe in an extreme form of human purity that includes the killing of the elderly, the physically disabled, and so on, but I suppose Eidos Montreal thought race relations was more relatable?

I give it a "not as bad as you remember it, but not as good as Dude Sex" / 10

>>718642165
radar 2 makes it so small i cant see whats going on

>>718642760
thats what makes it a pitfall ya dingus

>>718642165
>The piss filter wasn't nearly as bad as I remember it being.
they toned it down in directors cut

>>718642832
i never asked for this

>>718642887
Oh.
How embarrassing, for me.

Every time I play this game I get bored half way and start playing invisible war.
Both only happen if I've already cleared deus ex that year.
Anyone remember these weird fucking trader guys?

>>718643008
>>718642887
looks better with the piss filter on

>>718643017
i enjoyed invisible war especially antarctica

>>718643017
Honest question: How can I play and enjoy Invisible War? Everything about it is utterly repulsive. The furthest I've been able to get is having a bunch of gangsters try to shake me down for cash.

for me, it's the dragon's tooth

>>718642887
The director's cut is the inferior version for a number of other reasons, is it not?

Entire series is shit. Thought of giving MD a chance, but Human Revolution was so boringly disappointing that I didnt even want to bother criticizing it because/v/ is too stupid to contribute to understanding without circlejerking

>>718643141
In my mind once you get out of the first city it starts to feel like it's own game, all of seattle feels like a very large tutorial to me, Cairo is sick, also talk to the vr blade runner holo girl, she's great, she sells the game for me.

>>718643382
Wow, cool!

The original is a perfectly self-contained story, it NEEDS no sequel or prequel.

>>718643630
It's nutty how DX goes from an average game to a genuine 10/10 the moment you enter the 747.

>>718643216
I think the only build that's more effective at killing than this one is the pimped out assault rifle.

>>718643256
It is said to have some bugs because the new content was bolted to an older build of the game. I recall a part on Jensen's building where a wall texture was visibly tiled incorrectly. And there's that section on a ship that was originally a DLC but is mandatory now; it really breaks the pacing of the game.

>>718643770
I haven't played it, so how does that happen?

>>718643770
The bar in hells kitchen is fantastic too, the one in paris too.
If there's one thing dx does perfectly it's the bars.

>>718643859
I feel like I remember there being a bit of stupid redesign things too.

>>718643881
I'm not going to stand here and listen to you badmouth the greatest democracy the world has ever known.

>>718643921
This is true. Bars, nightclubs, all of it. I like to think that the writers approached characters as being "intelligent" instead of merely retarded dregs.

>>718641756 (OP)
IN A BODY BAG

You did sneak through the entire no hud tutorial section right anon?
its the only way to earn the no detection achievement

>>718644905
The one I can't get is Foxiest of Hounds.

>>718645031
thats the one im referencing if you do the tutorial the way youre suppose to you dont get the achievement did the whole game no alerts only to find that out after like 8 hours

>>718641756 (OP)
redownloaded HR recently
It and MK are masterpieces and I'm sad that there won't be a 3rd game

>>718644101
That's because the game was made by intelligent people and not retarded dregs lol

>>718641756 (OP)
We need the final chapter in the Jensen trilogy.

I was 13 years old and the DuClare mansion made me nearly shit myself with how spoopy it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUR7fdg6n3s

There's a billion deus ex remixes but not a single one that would use paris death as intro following with paris combat

whenever I play MD (and HR too, I guess) i always autistically sleep every guard then drag them all into the same corner. at the end of each level every single guard and person is just (usually) snoozing in the bathroom with 20+ bodies.

>>718642887
>>718642165
I actually prefer the piss filter, it gives the game character

Nu Deus Ex may not share much design elements with the old games. But they're still decent games in their own right. Probably just not the 'immersive sim' philosophy or whatever. I still enjoy the hub zone based design they do, it's practically missing from from triple A nowadays too. It's tragic there won't be a third game.

>>718645512
I remember that mission in my childhood because it took me over an hour to find the secret entrance the first time

Are you looking forward to our globalized input/output AI "gods" that are nothing but shadowed reflections of the billions of subhuman life forms desperate to worship themselves instead of an ideal greater than their miserable, individualized existence?

>>718643256
It's the Wii U version, so bugs they fixed on PC were reintroduced since it never got patched.
The Save Tracer Tong DLC was integrated into the main game and made mandatory, it's just not very interesting.
Missing Link DLC was integrated and made mandatory, which really fucks with the pacing, especially on NG+ where you have all the augments and suddenly have none.
The "fixed" boss fights just put an extra room into each arena with a computer you can hack to turn on turrets or robots to fight for you, as well as throwing more guns and ammo around.

It's not terrible but I'd say the only 100% positive addition was New Game Plus.

>>718646057
>my fucking face when my stupid friends get excited and make monkey noises when they see advertisements on their phone are for shit they were just talking about a second ago

>>718646057
>first it was the gods
gates and jobs creating the companies that enabled electronic globalization
>then it was fame
youtube, vine, tiktok, myspace, facebook, twitter
>next it will be the self-aware systems
ai art, ai search engines, ai desktop assistants

>>718645943
for me it was getting lost in the catacombs because i have no spatial awareness and couldnt read the map right

cant imagine playing the game without the piss filter

that is half the goddamn experience of everything

>>718646247
It's not just you I have excellent spatial awareness and mapping skill and I was still checking the catacombs map every 3 steps because that place is a proper fucking labyrinth

>>718643881
You enter the 747 either as either a meathead or a reluctant participant and exit the 747 as a neophyte on the path of enlightenment.

>>718646139
Man it is so freeing to be totally immune to targeted advertising.

>>718646259
>cant imagine playing the game without the piss filter
I have mixed feelings of it, at the time I played the game I was not favourable to it because of trends of that era in post processing. But now i realise that it's essential on directors cut because of how lighting casts in certain scenes. Without the gold/piss filter some scenes are outright broken in lighting because it was developed around these specific post processing effects. But then you have things like the LIMB clinics which didn't apply the filter at all in the original. So when you go for the restoration mod it looks wrong in these instances. So there's even a caveat about directors cut being wrong, even when modded.

>>718646139
>>718646639
neither of you are immune to propaganda

>>718646057
I came here to be entertained by vidya shitposting as the end of the summer is making me feel existential, and got truth nvked to the dirt instead. Have a nice day Anon.

>>718646162
The real terror is overlord-directed ai becoming inescapable. They've already spent a decade destroying search engine algorithms - making properly constructed queries not work and outright ignoring search terms - to cater to smartphone morons. The bones of trying to route everything through an AI assistant are being built.

>>718646702
>>718646887
Remember that The Creation of Adam is not a reference to God creating Adam, but rather to Adam's creation, God. Note how God is surrounded by a magenta cloak in the shape of the human brain, with each angel's face and figure creating the wrinkles and folds upon its surface.

We create gods in our own image and likeness. Famous people cultivate optics to remain favorable to the ones who worship them, and will change their image to be more acceptable to the disciples who crawl to their altar. AI can only machine-learn from what man has created.

Gaze upon the globalized world of God, and kneel before its divine wonders.

>hear Eliza on the TV in the background for the first time in MD
>think wow, she sounds so goddamn soulless now
>find out later it's because she is, the Illuminati replaced her with a gutted, less human version between games

>>718647709
Is that also the excuse for changing Sarif's VA after Stephen Shellen pointed out the fruit flies?

>>718642165
>not as bad as you remember it
nigger /v/ liked HR

>>718647975
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>718643859
>mandatory content

>>718645721
>I actually prefer the piss filter, it gives the game character
it gives it a dreamlike quality
and the whole game feels cohesive

>>718647861
Stephen Shellen, by his own admission, refused to take the job because they were offering him so little and still expected him to fly up to Canada on his own dime, pay his own hotel and disrupt his life for maybe a few hours of work over three or four days.

>>718648115
>Stephen Shellen, by his own admission *after his handler gave him a black eye, refused...
ftfy

>>718645943
When the fuck was this level in the game? I dont remember this shit at all

>>718648002
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
there is a "what i expected/what i got" meme from when the HR build was leaked, and no i dont have it

>>718648115
>a few hours of work
at probably a thousand dollars an hour, thoughbeit
would have been worth it

>>718648054
>playing the game, progressing, collecting weapons and augs to become more powerful
>suddenly you have all of that taken from you and you're reduced to crawling around with nothing like you just started the game over
It was fine as a standalone DLC. It's jarring in the middle of the game the first time. It's complete horseshit in NG+.

>>718648261
You leave Hell's Kitchen after getting a tip from an Illuminati member that the daughter of a former member in Paris, who works with the terrorist organization Silhouette, can connect you with her mother, who in turn will connect you with the current leader of the Illuminati. You find out in their chateau that the mother left the daughter a massive inheritance that the daughter was totally unaware of inside of their family mausoleum in the rear of their estate.

>>718648293
>It's jarring
true but plenty of games do that. but its just funny that when they include DLC into the game now, someone finds a way to complain

>>718648392
It was designed and released as standalone and later forced in the middle, you obtuse nigger.

>>718648367
Is. it a side objective or something?

>>718646057
You can worship your greater ideal... in a bfodybag.

the dev commentary in HR was cool. wish more games did that

>>718648392
"Plenty of games" temporarily take away your items and equipment, but never your abilities. Dude Sex had you thrown into the Secret MJ12 Facility and took away every item you had, but you still had your augmentations and could get your gear back in less than 10 minutes. The Missing Link takes 2 hours if you know what you're doing.

>>718648501
No.

>>718648392
Because it absolutely kills the pacing of that point in the game to send you on a glorified side mission for 3-6 hours that's only tangentially related to the main story.

Also most game that do "take away your powers" section either have it in the early mid/ game or as optional content. The missing link happens near the end of the game where your character will be super upgraded and is such a sudden change of pace it's jarring

>>718648536
Shame they didn't do it for MD.

so is it true the writers just took the stupidest conspiracy theories of the 90s as the story framework only to discover after its release that all of the theories were actually real and straight instead of fake and gay

>>718648002
yeah I was fucking here when the development/showcase build leaked and everyone was playing it early
and I was here when it fucking launched too you little faggot

>>718651310
Call me a faggot one more time and I'm going to simultaneously suck your balls dry while performing a prostate exam on you.

Back.
Off.

>>718641756 (OP)
ok where

>>718642887
>remaster ruins game art direction
many such cases

>>718651436
literally all cases

I have never used the Typhoon.

>>718651436
>>718651478
it was literally because the common people mocked it and decried it as a piss filter
"ruins game art direction" YOU ARE LITERALLY REFERRING TO THAT ART DIRECTION BY THE DENIGRATING, NEGATIVE NAME THAT THE MAINSTREAM NEGATIVE OPINION ON IT COINED

>>718641756 (OP)
and then what?

>>718651558
Some gang-banger, maybe you should think about going back to school.

>>718651641
Rest in peace, Big Rizzle.
Yeah rip.

>>718651748
What a shame.
*lip smack*
He was a good man.

>>718651082
I'd just be "we crunched the shit out of this game and we still couldn't complete it, FML and fuck this planet"

>>718652386
That would be a fun commentary so long as the speakers had the charisma to remain engaging while bitching about how badly they got fucked up the ass.

I've made my mind to finally play through the original Deus Ex. Are there any QoL or newer system patches or mods that I should install?

>>718652386
>>718652493
HR's commentary already lists a bunch of things they cut or otherwise didn't have time to do. Game was like six months over its original due date and they still left things out.

>>718648115
Adammmmmm

>>718643770
>>718646493
For me, the pit in my stomach finally hit while "ENEMY WITHIN" was playing and I entered the med bay for the last time

>>718652583
If it's your first time you're going to need the Deus Ex Map Fix, Kentie's Launcher, and either the Direct9 or OpenGL renderer from cwdohnal. OpenGL is preferred, but if it causes graphics tearing, use the Direct9 renderer instead.

After you complete your first play through, if you want to go again, you can take a look at Give Me Dude Sex.

>>718652662
It's such a mindfuck moment. I'm so glad that Deus Ex's pacing blew their wad in the first few hours of the game and didn't let up on the gas until the chateau (only for you to now be playing like a paranoid schizophrenic waiting for commandos to come blazing around a shadowy corner to remind you haven't saved in over 15 minutes).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDjJkFyL_Q

>>718645847
>I still enjoy the hub zone based design they do, it's practically missing from from triple A nowadays too.
CP2077 would have been infinitely better as a hub based game. Here's hoping Berlin 2087 isn't as shit as it looks

>>718653171
I've said it before and I'll say it again, open world is a meme. It worked for MMOs because Teamspeak/Skype/Discord didn't exist. Players were out in the open world actively interacting with each other, creating the illusion that the open world was more alive than it actually was. With the ability to communicate through voice, players have now retreated back to instanced content even within MMOs, rendering open worlds obsolete.

>>718641756 (OP)
>Maybe you should try quitting your job.

>>718653378
We're talking about Deus Ex, not Takeshi's Challenge.

>>718648392
For me it's That Part that keeps me from a third playthrough because it's so fucking shit

>>718653246
Teamspeak and Vent have been around for ages though

>>718641756 (OP)
Looking forward to the rightoid grifters turning on gamers soon as the medicaid dries up.

og deus ex > hr/md > 7/10

>>718641756 (OP)
we need more games with a hub world. games today suck.

Does anyone remember the meme mod for DX that gave the game takedowns, piss filter, and thicc item outlines? Maybe it wasn't a real mod, but there was a youtube video, and I can't find it anymore.

>>718656307
https://youtu.be/PUPD5y0nrUc?si=g4DunKC18vg25v6Y it is a real mod

>>718656307
Nutatco?

>>718656615
Yep, that's the one, thanks

>>718656615
>the goatee appears
>I just learned you need the DLC for my mission

>>718656615
kek

>>718645935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWGpTI60j3g

>>718646694
But I have a beanie that says IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA
Surely that means I am immune

GYHEAAAAUUGH

>>718652773
I didn't download none of this shit when I played it for the first time and had a great time.

>>718660595
I had to get kentie's launcher because the brightness slider wouldn't work otherwise and it was so dark I couldn't see shit. The map fix for me is mostly to get music playing when you return to hell's kitchen. GOTY version is bugged and music doesn't play

>>718642038
Just beat HR again a couple days ago. Pacifist achievement on highest difficulty. Now I'm tempted to do it again and have my Jensen be a complete psychopath instead.

>>718642165
HR is a good game. The writing feels more real and completely removed from the modern writing scourge we're going through at the moment. It doesn't treat it's players like idiots and gives a balanced view on cybernetics and augmentations, ultimately allowing the player to decide based on their own world view.

>>718645649
The guards sure do love a long nap in these games.

>>718661861
>Deus Ex MD didn't really have worse tier writing
>The audience was more modern and couldn't pick up on the aug lives matter protests being an organised cover for deeper machinations just like the real life counterpart based on aug lives matter
Unironically audience actually got filtered and are still malding about it because they can't admit they were wrong.

>>718647709

Incredibly sexo design

>>718643256
>>718646135
but the wii u version came out several years after the original game. why the fuck did they not start with a fully patched build??? why does this sort of thing keep happening?

>>718662251
They lost the code and had to work with an older version is the official reason.
but really Bob Page made them do it

>>718646057
>dude sex in addition to everything else accurately predicted how AI would come to be and it's function in modern society
Jesus Christ Denton

SEX WITH DELARA!

>>718643482
jc, ng resonance and the coffee wars are the highlights of invisible war
too bad its complete shit on the technical side
i wonder if remaking it could work, it's not like it has some stellar art direction

>>718656615
>Pidgeon Page: ICARUS!
>Spontaneously bursts into flames moments later.

After all this time it's still funny.

>>718651310
I remember one of the devs came on /v/ too when it happened and got feedback, which gave them some good will. They tried the same thing later for Mankind Divided and sidestepped a lot of the more critical questions, and that's when I knew the game was going to have problems.

>>718663182
Aria is cuter and a better wife

when i played deus ex for the first time i went in blind and thought you could side with unatco at hells kitchen and was disappointed you could not, i ended up finishing the game anyway but couldnt really enjoy it, any tips to get into it?

>>718646057
MGS2 was more accurate, as AI will be used for nothing more than "curation" of information in and out, just like the old Mighty Wurlitzer. We see it right now as the internet is now entering full lockdown mode by the exact same people who owned all the physical press and legacy media

>>718666421
You're allowed to not like Deus Ex. Don't force yourself because other people tell you you should like it. Those people are just faggots.

>>718661754
>Now I'm tempted to do it again and have my Jensen be a complete psychopath instead.
Lethal stealth was the most fun playthrough for me.

>>718667085
what's the point? you just get less XP and the takedowns even make noise.

>>718648392
>this version of the game includes the DLC which canonically happens after the events of this mission. do you want to start it now or access it from the menu later?
There. i has fixed you're retarded pace-raping design decision

>>718667983
HR gives way more praxis kits than you'll ever need so the XP gimp doesn't matter. Couple that with most augs being based around non-lethal stealth gameplay means if you do a lethal playthrough you need even less of the already way too many praxis kits. Also, non-lethal takedowns being silent while lethal ones making noise is a bullshit thing that should never have existed. The game really, really wants the player to do non-lethal stealth playthrough so the fun is in spitting in the devs' face.

>>718667983
I didn't use takedowns much, I relied on a silenced pistol with laser sight for most of my run. Sniper Rifle and Turrets for everything else.

>>718668496
>>718669565
saying fuck you to the XP system is probably the only way to enjoy lethal HR. I suppose takedowns are pointless if you have a silenced pistol with tons of ammo. no downside to just headshotting people even at close range, is there? I played through the game at least three times but never completed my fourth run which was supposed to be lethal. I wanted to use lethal takedowns and the crossbow only to find that lethal takedowns suck due to the noise and the crossbow gets no ammo and can be broken by an upgrade as well? it's been too long but yeah, I was annoyed and quit.

as for praxis kits, sure you get more than you need by the late game. but getting more XP is obviously an advantage in the early to mid game.

>>718669827
>no downside to just headshotting people even at close range, is there?
Only when you start having armored guys as enemies, but then you just use AP ammo on them anyway.

>>718669921
do KO'd enemies take fall damage? could do a silent takedown, the drag the body to a high place and drop it to finish the job. Hitman style.

but this is the kind of shit I would maybe do as a teenager in video games. I'm too old to larp at this point.

>>718670563
Yeah, they do, I remember reloading because I threw a guy down an elevator shaft and his status changed to Dead.

>>718643256
Yep, it has the "Missing Link" DLC and you can't skip it. It's basically the only reason I've never replayed this

What other games have this type of kino original art?