Thread 718645538

>game where 90% of the playerbase doesn't even bother learning the mechanics.

The concerning thought is that most Souls players just rollspammed and R1'd the whole game. I don't think they even knew they could stancebreak bosses.

>>718645538 (OP)
I try not judge.
I don't know what it would be like playing Elden Ring as your first souls game.

>>718645538 (OP)
>Using a shield
ydbtg

>>718645538 (OP)
I used a shield and slow walked around bosses in my walkable arena actually.

>>718645538 (OP)
Guard counters are a trap if the counter doesn't stagger the enemy, which includes all enemies worth blocking against.

>>718645538 (OP)
Considering one of the most viewed videos on YouTube is some faggot complaining about the bosses having "random combo extenders" I'd believe it. When you refuse to change your approach or use any of the tools the game gives you, and it's stupid how generous it is, then perhaps you're just a retard.

>>718646063
Good thing guard counters do insane stance damage. Guard counter is yet another "you didn't beat the game" cheese. So many filtered retards whipped out the fingerprint shield, heaviest armor they had, and guard counters on consort radahn instead of parrying him as intended.

>>718646767
Why would you waste time trying to get 2 parries for 1 crit when you can repeatedly poke him to death with significantly less effort? Hell, add in bleed and he dies even faster and he can hardly stop you.

>>718645613
That's the problem though, I'm talking about people who have probably played every other Souls game

>>718645538 (OP)
Because it requires more investment to pull off. Even if someone wants to post a webm of them fucking over a boss without rolling, they do all this running around like a retard, jumping at specific moments, and often times is stacked with a lot of buffs. This is ignoring how you have to 'practice' the boss in comparison to just outright fighting him and opposed to rolling which is just a button press.
Is it possible? No shit it is. But the vast majority of the player base of any game isn't going to go to such lengths when the easier, and more times than not, better option exists.

>>718646836
Journey>destination

>>718645630
you can block with weapons buddy

>>718645538 (OP)
Nah, the game must teach them in 30 seconds.

And they must actually help you win the bosses easier. Preferably there would be at least one non-optional boss where you basically have to use a mechanic to complete so it gets forced into your memory.

For example, a fire boss that you cannot complete without equipping fire resistant gear.

Fromsoftware -games are just notoriously poor at it.

>>718647873
Doesn't really matter much when you know what the destination is going to be.

>>718646767
Agree that using shields + guard counter is like 'easy' mode.

If you don't play a lot, you should probably beat games on easy.

You can always beat the game first on easy then challenge yourself e.g. "i wont use shields and summons this time".

>guard counter
>when enemies attack nonstop and don't react to being hit

>le dont use le shield le dont level hp
I laughed at you faggots in ds1, I am still laughing in Elden Ring and I will continue to laugh when the next game comes out.

>>718645538 (OP)
>gets pushed back out of range

>>718648424
>two handed R1 stuns enemy
>enemy does a wind up animation
>enemy now tanks two handed R1
Why

>>718645538 (OP)
Tbf the tutorial explains the stance mechanic extremely poorly
>>718648424
Yeah why not? It has about the same if not less commitment than a jumping attack and people love spamming those

>>718648610
Some attacks get hyper armor, some don't. You won't know which ones until you get hit by it.

>>718648671
Most enemies just have no response to jump attacks so it's cheesing

>>718649013
Grrr. Those minotaur guys come to mind

>>718646767
Maybe if the parry window wasn't incredibly retarded. Why does it take more frames for the parry window to come out than it actually lasts for? It's so fucking stupid.

Playing with a good shield and waiting until the right time to drop a guard counter is comfy as fuck. I keep starting new runs just to have fun blocking everything.

>6th game in a series is balanced around a brand new mechanic that's mentioned vaguely in the tutorial
defend this

>>718645538 (OP)
>mechanic
now that i think of it fromdrones pissed and shitted and cummed their pants when they introduced a dedicated JUMPING mechanic

>>718645538 (OP)
>Die in 2 hits to every boss
>Die in 3 hits if you block
>Act surprised when most people stop using shields because they're useless

>>718645538 (OP)
Only shitters use guard counters. Using them is mimic tear tier