Thread 718651113

Valve console seems to be coming.

>>718651113 (OP)
Big if true

>>718651113 (OP)
Small if false

so a mini-PC with proprietary hardware?

>>718651198
Pretty much

>>718651113 (OP)
So basically a mini-PC like the ones chinks been making for years, except it has custom AMD APU (maybe even dedicated GPU) and geared towards gaming. If Valve going to put a decent price on it (like with Deck), I'll gladly upgrade.

>>718651113 (OP)
Literally who asked for this? Are there that many Gabe dickriders left that will want this as opposed to your own PC made to your own standards?

>>718651198
I think the entire selling point of these things would be that you wouldn't have to assemble it yourself like a DIY PC, and just pick it up in a store somewhere. Literally just plug and play. The main difference between a hypothetical device like that would of course be that the Valve machine would still be an actual computer while your regular consoles would just be dumb boxes.

I could honestly see a device like that being extremely popular. To reach the masses, you need to dumb down your shit and make it as easy as possible. And although assembling a PC is easy for me, and someone who is willing to learn, many don't want to, but they still recognize the mountain of advantages a PC has over a regular console.

Imagine a hypothetical small(er) device where you can switch to a console UI and a regular computer desktop with like the push of a button. I think there's something there.

What the fuck is a Fremont sounds like a cheese

>>718651516
The name Fremont can be interpreted in several ways, most commonly as "noble protector," "protector of freedom," or "freedom mountain." It originates from Old Germanic and Old English roots, combining elements related to freedom and protection.

>>718651487
so a mini-PC with proprietary hardware?

>>718651113 (OP)
didn't they already try this?

>>718651618
Yeah and it flopped. I can't see this being any different.

>>718651192
Good if bait

>>718651113 (OP)
fake + gay

>>718651113 (OP)
While this is probably going to flop because of pricing, I can wait for the Steam Deck 2 along with it being sold in retailers for the first time since I know that will be successful. Home consoles are on their way out.

>>718651710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNfmz0BowxM&t=501s GN also talked about it.

Yall niggas hated on these but I loved my Alienware Alpha.

>>718651826
GN is just a dramatuber now. I do however like how they upload like 45 minute long videos in the middle of the night going into autistic detail about shit nobody cares about

>>718651645
the steam deck has been very successful apparently maybe this is why they're going to give this another shot

>>718651487
Yeah, no. If they sell this with regular margins, there is little reason to buy it. If they sell it at a subsidized price, more similar to consoles, then people who had no interest in Steam would just buy it as a cheaper computer, completely undermining the point of Steam even making these things. In other words, this will have some degree of console lockdown, or it will fail once again like the original Steam Machines.

>>718651198
the steam deck uses "normal" pc hardware
you can buy an ssd from a third party and it will work
i imagine a full size steam machine will literally be just a pc with off the shelf parts and steamos preinstalled, like the old steamos

>>718651113 (OP)
no games

>>718651971
>45 minute long videos in the middle of the night
They've moved to 4 hour videos now

>>718652036
so a mini-PC with proprietary hardware?

>>718652128
like a fuckin boss..

>>718651618
>>718651645
Did you even read it.

>>718652068
all the games

>>718651113 (OP)
Valve is coming at the right time with some good argument, people are sick of having to buy some games again when a new gen of console drop and have massive backlog. Also pc is pricing out lot of people.
They proved they are competent with the deck but some people just don't need mobile stuff.

If the price is right, it will be a bloodbath for the other console markers.

>>718655806
Only console they won't hurt is the Switch 2. Nintendo will dominate their own niche but it will be nice seeing the Steam Deck 2 finally get mainstream appeal. Plus, we need Sony's and Microsoft's influence on games to completely end.

>>718653027
The issue was that no-one cared for the machines. The Steam Deck is already pretty niche (at what like 2 million sold?). This is going to be even smaller market.

>>718651113 (OP)
why would a small form factor pc use integrated graphics

Is there some obvious reason why the hardware isnt simulating their upcoming VR headset?
Its supposed to be able to run steam deck type games, and the chip in OP is 2 x SD chip power. and VR sets have 2 screens

>>718651198
all hardware is proprietary you retard
The word you're looking for is locked and I don't see why valve wouldn't let you install whatever os you want on it like with the deck

>>718656106
The deck isn't niche, it's not marketed or readily available. There's a difference. The deck is for literally anyone who cares about video games and portability. It has completely different goals and expectations from a console, and so will the steam machine.
Imagine if the switch 2 was only sold exclusively on nintendo's website and they didn't market it anywhere. That's valve's hardware situation and that's something they're currently fine with and could change.

>>718652016
>the steam deck has been very successful apparently
You mean the piece of indian crap that sold as much as the n-gage?

>>718656893
You know it's successful because otherwise you wouldn't be assblasted, you simply wouldn't care.

>>718656106
the difference was that Steam Machine meant fuck nothing. You could install steamos on a rapsberry pie and call it a steam machine.
Deck is a dedicated device and you can check in advance what games are going to work on it and thanks to its low resolution it somehow manages to still run some newer games.
And lastly the price at a time when hardware prices rose and Deck was still relatively cheap and the mobile gimmick as a bonus

>>718656968
>SAAR YOU'RE JUST MAD SAAR!!!!!
I wonder how much Valve is paying indians to shill steam deck on /v/ 24/7

>>718656893
The low volume production prototype for both umpcs and Linux gaming was unsuccessful despite being consistently out of stock and not being offered in large chunks of the world and still limited and underground in those that it was?
Damn, you better tell Asus, MSI, lenovo and everyone else who made one after it launched

>>718656605
>Is there some obvious reason why the hardware isnt simulating their upcoming VR headset?
VR is very demanding and the console must be around 500$ if they want it to sell, maybe less. Leaving a niche thing like VR out is wise.

>>718657343
Yes anon the piece of hardware that sold as much as one of the biggest failures of all time is one of the best selling things ever SAAR

If it's cheaper than DIY, runs 1080p 60 fps on most games then it has my buy
Fuckin PC building industry just wants to sell $2000 7090 RapeTheWallet GPUs so it can get fucked I hope they enjoy the large language model bubble popping just like the crypto mining bubble did

>>718651113 (OP)
I'm still on a 1070, if this is a decent enough package I might just get that instead of building a new PC.

>>718651113 (OP)
>Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
Heh

>>718657423
If you think you can just compare numbers without any consideration of budgets and production scale you genuinely lack theory of mine
Are farmers markets a failure because they don't have the volume of big supermarket chains?

>>718657523
theory of mind*

>>718657523
>uhmmm actually it's suppose to sell like shit so it's actually very successful
I don't think there's a single more cultist fanbase than VaIvedrones

>>718651113 (OP)
Can we stop calling them "consoles" when they are just pre-built PCs? Even the Steam Deck is a linux laptop with the form factor of a portable gaming console.

>>718652128
>holy shit the US banned GPUs exports to China but you can still buy them in China? Wtf how??? We spent 100k dollars to find out
>Steve: so how do these gpus get into china
>random chinks: idk through other countries and individuals bringing them in personally, how else?
>woahhhhhhhhhh no way pls donate money
>3 hours of this

>>718657423
>one of the biggest failures of all time
I don't understand why people call it a failure. It has a redesign and later on an app for future phones. What was a failure was game cartridges, there were just ad cards with apps on them and you could flat out copy them to your device and play games without any copy protection.

>>718651113 (OP)
>inb4 it has TPM 2.0 and secure boot (undefeatable anti-piracy and anti-modding methods)
>inb4 new games refuse to run without having them on
>inb4 valve drones accusing me of being a consolefaggot when locked down walled gardens are exactly the things I ran away from

>>718657912
>I don't understand why people call it a failure.
it's called ragebaiting
get with the times unc

>>718657770
so... like every console on the market right now?

>>718658061
me when i make up scenarios to get mad at

>>718658151
>yes goy, TPM and secure boot can be safely ignored
>nevermind that some games have started demanding it to run
>inb4 b-but it's chinkoid and EA multiplayer dumpster fires
they always start out small

>>718658187
me when i continue to make up scenarios to get mad at

>>718658140
Consoles such as the PS5 and Switch are still locked environments where I can only play officially licensed games (without jailbreaking and shit).
Steam Deck is different because you aren't locked to your steam library. You can add non-steam games too.

>>718658292
newest battlefield and anything by riot chinks requires TPM and secure boot
you can hang yourself now valve drone

>>718657912
Because they're tendies and the deck scares them shitless because if it's not a failure and sticks around then it threatens their best friend nintendo.

>>718651113 (OP)
I thought they said there's no new Steam Machine anytime soon?

>>718658439
Switch 2 sold more in 1 day than the deck has sold in like 3+ years now

>>718658457
They said it will be a while for the deck 2. They haven't said anything about a steam machine in ages.

>>718658393
just don't play shitty games like BF6?
what the fuck does riot games have to do with valve?

>>718658439
case in point >>718658621

>>718658621
And? PC was dead in the water and consoles reigned supreme even just 10-15 years ago, but now pc dominates. You know that. And you know what that means for pc handhelds going forward. That's why you come into threads like this to shit yourself over sales numbers despite the deck's sales not even coming close to the switch.
Imagine if nintendo only sold the switch 2 exclusively through their online store with zero marketing. That's the deck's situation. If valve wanted to get the deck out there, nintendo's only remaining hardware line would be fucked that much faster.

>>718658457
They said no Deck 2 yet and if I'm being honest I get it there really isn't much actually good you're missing out on, and that's before we get into shit like
>Nvidia rebirthing the tesselation crap and cripple.amd shit
With Nvidia™ Ray Tracing™

>>718657702
>uhmmm it failed because... because it didn't beat consoles in sales despite that being explicitly not the goal
you really are that stupid huh? i was making fun of you and you actually say that earnestly

>>718658850
>Imagine if nintendo only sold the switch 2 exclusively through their online store with zero marketing.
And only in select regions, not globally.

>>718658457
They said both because the chips were shit. People who believe Fremont (home console) and Mero (Steam Deck 2) won't be both based on Zen 6 RDNA 5 are retarded.

So ah steamOS for your regular PC when, that's all linux needs to become a real player

Admittedly probably a lot of work keeping it all up to date so I can see why they're dragging their feet

>>718651113 (OP)
Only if manufactured by Valve. Reminder that consoles are sold on loses, that's why licensing the technology will only lead to unbuyable things (hello 3DO).

>>718652265
Open platform.

>>718659391
I mean more to the point, what linux "needs to be a real player" is just retail presence.
It's already a better experience on windows if you aren't the guy about to reply to this post who has an all adobe workflow and plays EXCLUSIVELY games that intentionally break Linux support that any thread besides this one will near unanimously agree are total shit.

>>718652265
A console-pc best of both worlds hybrid that valve subsidizes the cost of with steam.

>>718652265
do you have the faintest idea about what the x86 instruction set is?
currently only intel and amd have the rights to it and intel put a clause in there that if either of them goes bankrupt they can't sell the license because they thought amd would eat shit but they did instead

>>718660317
Intel is getting bailed out by the US government.

>>718660803
they can't get bailed out of their achitecture being a clusterfucked jenga tower that's been stacked for 20 years

>>718661356
>just one more architecture bro please just one more bailout I swear we can fix it we just need more ladders

>>718651426
>inb4 it's actually a 128GB VRAM APU that's secretly catering to the coomer crowd to drive sales

>>718657484
the leaker said it's because the testing tools for the hardware (for the factory I assume) are on windows

>>718658393
>games not made by valve has spyware
>valve will absolutely do the same

>>718662759
Well yeah anon, of course they're going to do it, haven't you seen how much cheating is prevented by kernel and motherboard level malware?

>>718658393
retard

>>718662689
It's easier to test hardware in general on windows as a baseline. All the tools for it are available on windows as an end user too. If you build a new computer, doing a temp windows install to do performance and stability testing is a good idea even if you install Linux in the end once you're done.

>>718662881
I don't play BF6 so I haven't. Also didn't BF6 have hackers anyway?

>>718651113 (OP)
If this happens Sony and Microsoft are finished lmao

>>718663446
That was sarcasm.
Basically every modern multiplayer game is swamped with cheating because the incentives aren't about having fun these days.

>>718659271
yea it would still fucking obliterate the deck. You cant be this retarded and out of touch. The steam deck has sold as much as the n gage. In 2025 thats fucking pathetic no matter how you slice it especially when we have direct to consumer on the biggest gaming platform in the world on steam. N gage had only linear marketing, competed against the gameboys dominance, sold in age where the flow of information was a fucking snails pace. etc. Sorry but you can cope all you want

>>718651113 (OP)
Not interested. However I hope that's real, I want SteamOS to make microsharts nervous.

Depends on the price, really. If it's over $500 it's dead in the water.

>>718657343
>>718657523
Saar valve is little indie studio they can not up the production for this reason

>>718662881
Honestly have no idea how players of those games willingly install spyware on their PC when it does nothing to stop cheaters.

>>718663053
Wouldn't test results be different on different OS?

>>718663536
You massively overestimate the average normalfag that makes up 99% of Nintendo audience. If all things were equal in terms of exclusively locked down to one online store, zero presence, zero marketing, limited to select regions, like the Deck, the Switch 2 would sell similar numbers at best. The normalfags wouldn't even know it exists.

>>718651113 (OP)
I hope for an optional disc drive version.

>>718658715
>yes goy ignore safetynet for windows. it will totally not be adopted by all kike publishers on earth
least jewish valve drone

>>718662759
>yes goy tpm 2.0 and secure boot aren't drm, they're just anticheat!
least disingenuous corporate drone

>>718664254
retard

>>718664254
>valve makes an entire os based off linux to avoid microsoft's bullshit
>hurr durr kike goyim god goy disingenuous drone goy hurr schizo ramblings
Shut the fuck up.

>>718651113 (OP)
Other sources claim it's using an RX 7600, which doesn't seem very competitive at all unless it's gonna be cheaper than or match the price of a base PS5/XSeX.

>>718664309
you can turn off those things if you don't play games with "anticheat"

Funny steamies defend them trying to be like consoles now

>>718664254
steamos is linux based, no?

>>718664504
>NOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO PLAY AAA MULTIPLAYER SLOP!!! BATTLESLOP 6 IS LITERALLY THE BEST GAME AND I NEED NEED NEED TO PLAY IT!!
consider killing yourself retard

>>718665051
>>718664869
retard

>thread about valve hardware
>tendie seething his brains out the whole thread
Every time.

>>718664504
>yes goy valve won't lock down their own version of linux once they get big enough like jewgle did
why are you jewish
>>718664687
>yes goy we promise tpm and secureboot won't become standard in the futiure
why are you jewish

>>718665662
>lock down
>linux
room temperature iq in celsius

>>718665662
>what is open source
>what is bios
>what is custom firmware
tendie doesn't know anything about tech

bump, I want to talk about this as someone whom is interested. But this isn't a new rumor, does no one remember this was being talked about like November 2024? Nothing ended up coming of it.

>>718665791
I think that was VR related. this is not VR related.

>>718665791
What valve works on is basically an open secret. The only way this isn't happening is if they abandon the idea. Which they could, but no signs are pointing to that.

>>718665932
>>718665943
Damn if this ends up being real, I think I might actually switch to it. (I play on ps5 and xbox)

>>718651113 (OP)
Weren't PC faggots saying that console gaming is going away? What happened to that mess?

>>718666170
consoles are literally pcs now. they use ryzen cpu + radeon gpu.

>>718666203
So this is how you justify buying a console after complaining about Sony and Xbox. Just say you were always jelly of them and now you just have a way to get one that you side with.

>>718666170
You realize that's a PC, right? Or do you think simply making it as easy to use as a console somehow makes it a console?

>>718651113 (OP)
>AMD
Well, at least you don't have to worry about ray tracing.

>>718651198
>so a le console??
Um yeah retard

>>718665781
>windows
Low quality bait.

>>718666327
It makes it in function a console. If you buy this youre no better than anyone who bought a ps5 for ease of use.

>>718666434
>too retarded to install a new os
I hope you are ragebaiting

>>718657898
>3 hours of this
Thats a hard hitting investigation.

>>718666442
>It makes it in function a console
No it doesn't. It just makes the frontend as easy to use as one. It's still a full fledged PC that can do everything a PC can.

>>718666442
a console is a corporate toy with a closed up os that can only use approved software
this is literally just a pc in a console form factor

>>718664540
Issue is, by the time this comes out, the nextbox and ps6 will be out or out on the near future. So even if it is slightly cheaper than a series x/ps5, it will be outdated at releas

>bro heres a console with no disc drive so less features
lmao

>>718666580
>this is literally just a pc in a console form factor
Correction: this is an xbox.

>>718666312
It's because Sony, Xbox and Nintendo have $80 games and paid wifi.
Name 5 things wrong about the hardwares.

>>718666442
A console is literally just locked down hardware based DRM. You're completely at the mercy of the console's real owner, aka Nintendo or Sony.
Meanwhile, this is a fully open platform that you can do whatever you want with.

>>718658393
and what exactly does Battlefield or Riot Games have to do with Valve? You know, those guys who made a steam deck and pretty much all but said "go install emulators and tinker to playwhatever you want on it we don't care"

>>718666674
install something that isn't a an approved game on your "xbox" like you can with an actual pc

>>718666661
>plugs in a disc drive
Next cope.

In theory could this play league of legends?

>>718666661
What would you use a disc drive for in 2025?

>>718666814
Depends on OS.

>>718666804
And what game are you going to put in it lmao

>>718666910
Whatever I want.

>>718666851
I play on console and I got to play that for the first time and it's been the first game i've ever felt I could completely fall in love with and get addicted to.

>>718665762
secureboot already exists on trannux, you tech-illiterate faggotron. all they need to do is require microshaft's or the OEM's keys and most distros are dead in the water
furthermore, TPMs work on trannux just fine
>>718665781
>what is open source
tell me how many games and apps work on android with an unlocked bootloader. protip: you can't access banking apps, pokemon go, nogflix, most gachas, fucking whatsapp, etc.
>inb4 who gives a shit about that
they'll expand to other games too you retard

>>718666847
Get in the pod for your bug burger

>>718666774
>approved
If it runs on windows or android its approved.

What's geek bench?

>>718651192
medium if half true

>>718666595
Agreed, but it's not like the GPU used is set in stone or anything, since it's not a custom chip.

>>718667027
cross platform benchmark

>>718651113 (OP)
Valve could easily replace xbox as the "video games machine" brand if they truly wanted

>>718664869
I can play all I want on steam without ever interacting with a deck, faggot.
But if people want to use a deck, more power to them, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. Why should I care?

>>718666954
the whole point of linux is that if you don't like something you can fork it you dumb faggot
why would valve go and close up proton now?

>>718657343
>pc handhelds didn't exist before the dreck
Why are steamies like this?

>>718666940
So nothing, stop typing like a faggot with no real answer. PC games dont even get physical discs anymore

>>718667040
even then you can add whatever gpu you want to steam machines/deck. they support egpu. you can throw in a 7900xtx on your steam deck if you got a 4k tv and it will use it provided you're not playing 1080p cpu bottleneck games.

>>718667071
So it more or less is decent credibility for this being real?

>>718667178
the point is it lists the specs like 3dmark. this is how leaks occur like gpus.

>>718651113 (OP)
it will surely work this time around

>>718652036
It says the OS is Windows 11, GTFO Steamies.

>>718666952
turn around now.
unless you're the kind to play pugs or tournaments, you have nothing to gain from playing league of legends, or any moba for that matter.

>>718667117
I dont think you understand how team sports work bucko

>>718666954
>you can't access banking apps, pokemon go, nogflix, most gachas, fucking whatsapp, etc.
you literally can

>>718667275
>it says
it literally hasn't been announced yet
all people have is the line "valve fremont" on steamdb

I'd buy this, please be real.

>>718666954
my phone is rooted and all you have to do is disable them from seeing it

>>718651426
I think it's a CPU, not an APU

>>718667131
>random chinkbrands is the same as asus, lenovo, msi and acer and soon microsoft and sony copying the formula
least disingenuous consolecuck

>>718651198
What's proprietary about it? If it came with a standard AMD CPU it would be open?

>>718667620
The Steam app

How would I play ffxiv on it? I bought it on pc which doesn't let you buy the steam version after that.

>>718667741
steam = chrome
chrome = open source

>>718667774
download the version from square enix or wherever you bought it from
add proton/dxvk to it manually

>>718667620
technically everything if you want to squabble about it
practically he's too stupid for it and thinks some custom motherboard makes it some unexplainable voodoo

>>718651113 (OP)
If they give me a 5070 equivalent pc, in a small form factor, with full Linux (not just gaming mode) for less than 1.000€ I would buy it, even if it's a 5060 I would consider it.
I could stream games from my main PC, play games that have higher requirements than the deck, upscale old games and stream Plex to my TV.
But most likely it will be 1200€, less powerful and bigger than I'd like

>>718667138
Doesn't mean I don't have physical discs. Doesn't mean I can't put them on physical discs. Doesn't mean physical discs mean anything, consolefag. You still don't own anything and are Nintendo's little bitch.

>>718666910
>>718667138
physical usbs replaced physical discs

The only physical pc games I even have is bioshock, fear and prey 2006 (the good one)

>>718667774
https://lutris.net/games/final-fantasy-xiv-online/

>>718667094
At this point valve could just dominate everything if they wanted. But they operate off valve time.

>>718667963
>discs dont mean anything but also i can put a disc and itll do nothing!!!!
Holy copium

>>718651113 (OP)
the new steam branding makes it obvious they're prepping for a steamos4 launch across steam deck, third party handhelds, custom made pcs, and this new steam machine.

Damn how long has it been since a new console competitor happened? xbox?

>>718651113 (OP)
Valve is like the only big and resourceful enough to get into console gaming if they felt like it.

>>718668543
steam is the replacement for xbox pretty much. microsoft is trying to save face with the rog xbox.

>>718668413
discs are a storage medium, a shit and slow one at that
you can go and goldberg crack your steam shit or pirate and it'll be 1000x safer than entrusting a console corpo in the process, no one can do anything about it

>>718651198
Also SteamOS

>>718651113 (OP)
it will be funny to see the pc players divide into fags that jst like to suck off gaben and fags that want to show off their 5k pc

>>718668413
discs are drm checks these days more or less. you still need to grab additional data from the servers. look at halo infinite for xbox.

>>718668878
its pretty simple, steamdeck/machine is aimed for people who don't know about computers but also don't want to spend a fortune. basically the console segment. if you have the money and knowledge then valve recommends building for yourself and you have the choice of using whatever OS whether thats Steam, Windows, even FreeBSD.

PLEASE VALVE
JUST MAKE STEAMOS CONSUMER FRIENDLY
SAVE ME FROM W11

>>718667298
uhhh.... FORZA LAZIO

>>718668917
>discs are drm checks these days more or less
No its not, youre thinking a few cherrypicked examples are the norm

>>718656893 https://news.instant-gaming.com/en/articles/10972-three-years-after-release-the-steam-deck-has-sold-6-million-units
>Market research firm IDC, which uses production lines to track the number of units shipped, has now released its estimates. We learn that 5.972 million Steam Decks have been shipped worldwide so far. By 2025, it is estimated that a further 1.926 million machines will be added to this total, taking it to almost 8 million units.
You lost and got raped.

The reason I own a console is for the convenience of physical discs and I don’t want to deal with the bloated file sizes of modern games, where everything is 80+ GB at minimum. PS4 games were always about 30% smaller than their PC counterparts, but after the move to PS5, everything is 100+ GB now. Physical discs will likely die within the next generation, so there won’t be any advantage to owning a console anymore. A PC is all you’ll ever need now. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a retard

>>718669482
>6 million
can't make this shit up

>>718667119
you can fork android all you want. safetynet will fail and your apps and games won't run
>>718667353
>you literally can
if the checks fail, they close
whatsapp gives you its "install the official whatsapp" bullshit message if safetynet fails
>>718667423
no it's not. safetynet fails unless you install a ton of convoluted bullshit to spoof the checks, and even then the apps have to be updated every a month or two when jewgle does something to break them

>>718669449
>b-but the game r-runs!
who gives a shit? if I can't get all the updates and DLC on disc, then your "game" is incomplete and defective

>>718651487
>and just pick it up in a store somewhere

Does Valve even sell the Steam Deck n stores outside of Steam?

>>718651113 (OP)
I mean it makes sense.
I think the Steam Deck immediately showed that there is a market for prebuilt-PCs with good support for controllers and an open OS that is moddable, to which I'm sure that Decky would already be supported (but renamed/edited into something else slightly). This would basically be the "I want to play my Steam games away from my desk, but I do not need the portable aspect of the Deck" role that consoles typically filled (without Steam support), but now you've got your Steam library. Probably the best time to get in on the console market, especially if you are Gabe Newell and have fuck you money from CS2 gambling.
Now whether or not they will have Windows versions and SteamOS versions is to be determined but I hope they don't railroad people into Windows, switching to Linux based distros for gaming has quite literally been the best change I have made for playing video games in the past few years and I am trying my best to not go back. I have a partition for Windows on my main PC that I use for CS2 + Faceit and other anticheats that require it, but as I get older than number goes down because I am not playing as many multiplayer things where people feel the need to cheat.

>>718670836
Retarded nigger
My bank app works, WhatsApp works

>>718651113 (OP)
>weaker than a steamdeck
what

>>718651113 (OP)

I don’t get it. If you’re a steam user you own a PC. So run an HDMI from your pc to your TV if you want a console couch experience.

>>718671365
Outside US, yes.

>>718651113 (OP)
I suspect Xbox will be doing something like this next year, going from console to a console/pc hybrid system, so they'll have some big competition if my gut is correct.

>>718651113 (OP)
>Ahead of its time
Bullshit, if anything, valve was behind the time in the software side and ate just now catching up.

>>718651113 (OP)
Can't wait for yet another flop from Valve.

>>718671751
it's a prototype
do you think they're shipping it with an outdated cpu and windows?
no, it's just them testing the form factor and shit not performance, am5 will support next gen silicon

>>718671761
this is aimed squarely at console normalfags and prebuilts, not people who build their own pcs

>>718651113 (OP)
What's the point of a locked down PC? What kind of retard would buy that?

>>718671924
Windows is the one behind the time. Valve just made Linux backwards compatible.

>>718671462
>disabling root for apps
good goy
don't worry, strong integrity will fuck you real good when it comes

>>718671751
Its not. Are you retarded?
>>718671997
You're equally as stupid. And this mobile FP7, nbot AM5.

>>718651487
>I think the entire selling point of these things would be that you wouldn't have to assemble it yourself like a DIY PC, and just pick it up in a store somewhere.
Except Valve does NOT have the capability to 'just' deliver hardware to your local store. That's the whole reason why the Deck could only be purchased direct from Steam.

In any case, this will once again be a flop. What valve doesn't understand is that people who want a more 'open' device already have PCs. The console userbase just doesn't care and will attach itself to the biggest name. Steam deck was somewhat successful solely due to the novelty of it being a portable machine, making the PC enthusiast market be curious enough to justify purchasing what is essentially a 2nd PC in a mini format. A mini ATX PC disguised as a console will not turn heads.

>>718672130
>it doesn't work
>but it does work, just tick off a checkbox
>TWO MORE WEEKS AND YOU WILL SUCK COCK TRUST THE PLAN
take your meds

>>718672237
Another big hurdle is the price. If you go portable, concessions are understood and can be made - <1080p resolution, weaker (so cheaper) hardware etc. People are curious enough to spend 3-400$ on a playtoy. When it gets in the >700$ range like these consols will inevitably be, it becomes less of a "I am curious enough to buy this and it will not set me back financially considerable" and more of a "How can I justify buying this expensive product when I already have a similar thing and could instead buy XYZ that I NEED instead".

>>718670938
>what i dont have horse armor DLC on disc that means its defective!!!!
Retard

Who is the target audience? Kids these days want a PC like their favourite Minecraft Youtuber. SteamOS doesn’t even run Minecraft without some 3rd party fuckery.

>>718662342
So the Framework Desktop?

>>718667741
That's not hardware

>>718673082
it's literally a pc
it's aiming to be a living room box like a console and it'll aim at lower ends of prebuilts too

>>718675413
What exactly is the point of this as well? If you like PCs and already have a good one, why not just buy a PS5 that can play GTA 6?