Thread 718659669

https://www.techpowerup.com/340032/microsoft-windows-11-24h2-update-may-cause-ssd-failures

Update KB5063878 will brick your SSD and permanently destroy it, if you have a Phison NAND controller on your SSD then you are more likely to be fucked. If you download or patch anything 50+GB it will cause your storage devices to disappear, you can try to restart your PC to make it reappear but the damage is already done.

To repair it, do an in place upgrade by going to this link, download the ISO and select keep all files in the install window. Then don't download any new updates while on this new repair install.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

This is what happens when you hire poojeets. Uninstall Windows and use Linux

>>718659669 (OP)
What's a Win-doze? I only know Cachy/Debian/Gentoo.

>>718659669 (OP)
Too complicated, installing linux now.

You've been spamming this for over a week now.

Windows 11 LTSC chads win again.

>>718659669 (OP)
CachyOS chads win again

>>718659669 (OP)
Assuming this is real and not homosexual, it still wouldn't be Microsoft's fault. Standard operation of a storage device driver shouldn't cause the device to be bricked.
This is probably the driver developers writing non-conformant code. Some sort of a hacky workaround to circumvent OS limitations that relies on undefined behaviour.

>My SSD is under the "SSDs with no errors" category
feelsgoodman

>>718659669 (OP)
Kingston chads wins again

>>718662095
It's because it wasn't written in Rust

>>718662559
"Undefined behaviour" here meaning that they relied on behaviour of the *Windows API* that wasn't in the specifications, not of the programming language. Refactoring the same hacks to Rust would not have fixed it.

>>718662781
B-but memory safety...

Here's a Japanese test of SSDs
3 goods, you're in the clear (For now)
Not good lvl 1 or lvl 2 you're fucked.

However take this with a grain of salt and remove the update anyway, because there isn't many people reporting tests.

Anything over 50GB+ (62GB approximately) or multiple file transfers of 200 each being 200mb will also brick it

>>718662095
That’s the thing, right? If a damn Windows update can outright brick hardware just by writing large files, that screams “firmware spaghetti” more than anything. It’s like these Phison controllers were duct-taped together just enough to pass QC, and Redmond poked them the wrong way. Yeah, MS doesn’t get a free pass for not testing edge-case hardware, but this feels more like jank-tier vendor firmware finally getting exposed. Wouldn’t be surprised if the SSD firmware was doing pointer gymnastics with NAND wear leveling like it’s 2003.

chat is this real

Any enterprise chad around?

I have this specific update and am using a Samshit 990 Pro 2TB as my OS drive

My other SSDs are WD 4TB SN850Xs though

>>718659669 (OP)
sirs
do not doubt the ai because

>>718659669 (OP)
E=mc^2 + ai

This is why I never bought anything other than 970 EVO Plus SSDs, and now that they're discontinued, I have no idea what to buy.

>last three drive purchases were samsung
>decide that I was spending too much for no real benefit
>by cheap dram-less chink drive with phison controller to install windows on
>two weeks later this update happens
Fuck me, I guess.

Worst-case scenario, can't you just roll the update back before this happen?

>>718666241
You should never even have installed a non-LTS Windows system in the first place.

>>718666635
Saying hypothetically, in regards to anyone who might be at risk.

>>718666746
I wonder if you can even roll back an update. I think Windows does create a restore point before updoots, so you should be able to do it, but it will updoot itself again, so it's best to backup your data and install a new system.

i have the update installed since last week on the 13th and i can't even uninstall this shit

Sounds like bullshit, haven't noticed anything different. In other words, works on my machine.

>>718659669 (OP)
windows 11 is so good.
it even destroys you ssds, unlike linux.

>>718667605
Have you tried writing 50+GB to it?

>>718659669 (OP)
I'm still on 10

>>718667821
Yes, 65gb and more.

Samsung 990 pro 2tb

>>718667939
>Samsung chad
I kneel.

>>718667939
Literally says in OPs pic that it's not affected

I can't uninstall the update and I'm using the Samsung 990 Pro 2TB.

>>718669072
Your SSD isn't affected anyway

>>718669146
Not taking any chances

I'm using 11 Enterprise, the .iso on that link doesn't have it and I don't want to lose my files and reinstall drivers, Gabe games and other programs

A new 11 Enterprise install could also make me lose single use licenses for some programs that I use and bought

>>718669306
>Not taking any chances
Good
>11 Enterprise
Why not LTSC?
>install could also make me lose single use licenses for some programs that I use and bought
What kind of retarded ass programs use single licenses? Seriously, give me a list, I need to know what kind of crimes against humanity one must avoid.

>>718669645
Does LTSC exist? I installed mine 2 years ago when Enterprise was new

>What kind of retarded ass programs use single licenses? Seriously, give me a list, I need to know what kind of crimes against humanity one must avoid.
Autodesk

>Windows update maliciously destroys cheapy Chinese SSDs
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>718669816
Yeah, there's LTSC IoT now as far as I know. But I only ever installed it on a VM. I'm going to keep using Windows 10 until I can.
>Autodesk
Aren't you supposed to use a pirated version on your own PC and keep the legit licensed version strictly locked away on a separate PC intended just for business stuff?

How the fuck does a security update trigger this issue?

>Win11
You deserves it.
Oh it happens on Win10 too.. You also deserve it.

ror
rmao

>>718662845
>#include "gc.h"
there. memory safety. no need for rust.

I'm not using windows 11 and I didn't get the update yet but I'm not taking the risk, fuck off micropenis.

>>718670516
Stop it with the anti-transemitism

>>718659669 (OP)
>>718659715
Can you make a thread without random racist screeching? What does a slur about Indian people have to do with Windows and SSDs?

>>718670232
hello sir

>>718670184
Pajeets, jews, women, trannies, ai, and neggers.

>>718670643
Silence winjeet

>>718666134
buy them Like New from amazon resale. they are usually just open box returns. I buy all my drives this way. just check them with crystaldiskinfo using an external usb enclosure and return them if it looks used or label swapped. register the SN at samsung.com and if you ever need warranty service say you dont have proof of purchase because it was a gift.

I also buy geek squad refurbished ssds from bestbuy this way, but usually they are slighly more used (like a weeks worth of writes and power ons reported) they arent refurbished at all. just returns.

>>718670894
>amazon
>bestbuy
>literally anything refurbished
Not available in the shithole where I live.

>>718659669 (OP)
>HDD chads win once again

don't do this it makes mustard gas

>>718659669 (OP)
@grok what is the percentage of Indians working at Microsoft?

>>718659669 (OP)
>permanently destroy it
>to repair it:
what

>use 10 LTSC for games
>use linux for everything else
>this does not affect me

>>718662095
Yes it would. That's still Microsoft's problem that someone was able to use undefined functionality. Don't break your vendor's code.

I think I'd rather get raped by chink and russian hackers by not upgrading to w11 than the poojeets working at windows nowadays.

>>718659669 (OP)
>Update KB5063878 will brick your SSD and permanently destroy it, if you have a Phison NAND controller on your SSD then you are more likely to be fucked.
> if you have a Phison NAND controller on your SSD then you are more likely to be fucked.
Buy chink shit
Get chink results

>>718659669 (OP)
>This is what happens when you hire poojeets. Uninstall Windows and use Linux
Linux Jeets on this board will always fall for headlines and will never actually read articles, because their country’s average IQ is 76 aka legal mental retardation.

> Further analysis has suggested that SSDs built on Phison NAND controllers especially DRAM-less models exhibit failures at lower write volumes.
>The issue definitely bears high similarity to the WD SN770 host memory buffer (HMB) flaw
> We looked around and could not find other reports resembling such situations. The problem has been reported by a Japanese PC builder and enthusiast
Reported by a single fucking jap.

Always remember, 70% of Linux posters and advocates are Indian.
>you posted this in other thread saar obsessed benchod bloody gentoo masala
yes I did, and you jeets decided you needed another thread after your previous went into the designated street (as you’ve never used a toilet) after I BTFO you

>>718677174
If we're going to be passing blame like that, I think we should pin it on the x86 architecture.
>What do you mean device drivers are capable of arbitrarily interfacing with every system component in ways that are potentially not supported by the kernel? There should be a lower security ring that enforces precise interfaces between devices, drivers, and the kernel so that such bodges are caught as errors!

Oh wait, x86 does have that feature, doesn't it? Alright, I guess it's Microsoft's fault.

>>718659669 (OP)
while win11 is fucked and anon is right that you should use linux, do not under any circumstances download anything off 4chan and install it without a few rounds of anti-virus scanning and common sense.

I have a Crucial P3 Plus but it's not my system disk it's where I install my games, should I still worry?

>>718677960
microsoft is literally responsible for india's artificial domination of IT and programming. They were the first ones to use them as neo slave labor and caused it to become industry standard. are you retarded?

>>718660294
Don't you mean Windows 10 LTSC?

>>718659669 (OP)
Why should I car?

>>718677960
>asking fucking chatGPT for statistical information
jesus wept

>>718659669 (OP)
those H1B hires already putting in work, huh?

>>718659669 (OP)
>The term “bricking” implies permanent hardware damage, but most reports indicate the drives themselves aren’t physically destroyed. Instead, the issue involves partition data corruption

It's literally nothing

>>718677359
Pretty crazy that Ivan trying to steal your credit card info is less of a threat than Microsoft or your own government.

>>718686502
It's a nothingburger if your drive doesn't have any important data on it, it's a nightmare if it does.

Windows doesn't directly control the SSD, it's just telling the controller what it wants and the controller manipulates the NAND in a way to complete the task. If there is something Windows can tell the controller to make it crash out like this then the fault lies with the controller. And I suspect that this update in fact does NOT break the SSD in any way because these controllers are in fact designed to be fairly robust and it's just Windows causing data corruption.
Think of it this way, a video game requests the GPU to do such and such. The game is not aware of the thermals, power use and other metrics related to the GPU. It's just asking the GPU to do certain things. It doesn't know if the GPU is running at almost idle 50W or going full throttle at 400W. You cannot blame the game for telling the GPU to do a certain thing and the GPU being designed so it can do it fast enough at a certain power usage. The whole card housing the GPU should be designed in a way that can handle the 400W indefinitely or at least throttle when it detects it cannot maintain that.

People turning it into Linux vs Windows war are a special breed of retarded. Linux has always had far, far more robust I/O. At the same time, Windows was and is still is ahead in many other aspects like the compositor and having a stable API that video game developers can target without worrying about updating an otherwise finished product for years to come which is why there's a joke in the Linux community that Win32 is the most stable API on Linux.
Use whichever OS you like better, contrary to what idiots on this niggerfaggot website are telling you BOTH are fine.

>>718687856
Probably because he has no CC info saved nor anything of value on his computer that isn't vidya and anime.

>>718662559
I hate Mon/g/oloids so much. Not a single enduser cares that language a program is written in you retard.

stellar blade

>>718688329
stellar blade

>>718691548
>stellar blade
stellar blade

>>718685139
stellar blade

>>718691823
stellar blade

>>718663860
that sort of testing hasn't been done at microsoft in a decade

>>718659669 (OP)
>>718659785
As we're reminded everyday, the PCMR uses Windows OS and this is part of the PC Vegan Redditor master race experience, so this is on-topic. PC gaming has super high prices for PC parts like 16GB GPUs, Intel CPUs from the last 4 years have oxidation which is killing them over time. There are PC game developers who put in the Steam forums FAQs notifying Intel users their processors are at fault and not themselves. And now we have SSDs exploding internally from PC Veganism.

Fantastic stuff really. Ouroboros eating its own tail for /v Valve/ PC fanboys.

>>718690631
stellar blade

>>718690817
stellar blade

>>718659669 (OP)
NEVER using another version of Windows after 10 until it's a complete pajeet purge from the industry