Thread 718668176

I want to play skyrim but i hate any changes to the base game when i play games for the first time, i want the original experience.

I just found out about the unofficial patch retardation and about not being just bug fixes.
Also know that Skyrim without any fix it's impossible to play because bethesda never fixed the game, is there a way or alternative to play this game but without the unofficial patch?

The original experience is a broken mess anon, if you dont want that you don't want a vanilla experience.

you can probably find an old crack of the 1.0 release
or an iso image of the gamesforwindows CD version
try asking on /tesg/

>>718668176 (OP)
Pirate the original 2011 PC release.

Or better yet: skip Oblivion and Skyrim altogether, and play an actually GOOD TES game, such as Morrowind.

>>718668176 (OP)
>without any fix it's impossible to play because bethesda never fixed the game
its not impossible but chances of bugs or jank is high and you should familiarize yourself with how to use the console (saving before you mess with it) in order to do things like getting yourself unstuck

>>718668176 (OP)
So just play unmodded vanilla, it is absolutely playable in its entirety without any serious issues.

>>718668375
Silence, Arthmoor.

>want to play game with no patches
> but also want the game patched
Retard just play the game

Remember to set your audio settings to 41khz

>>718668603
There really aren't any serious bugs or jank in vanilla that could result in anything other than very minor irritation.

Here's your vanilla experience bud

>>718668176 (OP)
You can play it vanilla just fine.

>>718668608
>>718668603
So can i actually just boot up Special edition and play? how much broken it actually is?

>>718668812
Yes. You can even just boot up Legendary Edition and play, there are no catastrophic bugs in vanilla.

normal game works just fine
people who tell you otherwise have not played the vanilla game in decades if ever

i'm >>718668463
but i second this man >>718668524 with OpenMW

>>718668176 (OP)
Are you saying you want the 1.00 launch edition with zero bugfixes? Why would you want that?

>>718668618
I want fix not changes you illiterate retard

>>718669173
fixing something changes it you illitrrate retard

>>718668524
I'm actually going to, i plan to play every TES on release order, i like doing this on new franchise i start playing.
I also like playing on the most vanilla state possible, but without compromising bugs.

>>718668524
As good as morrowind is the beggining is just so hard to go through for a dopamine addled game enjoyer today. Skyrim and oblivion put you straight into the action, but Morriwind takes time to show you stuff, to introduce you to characters and lore. As good as the game is, it diesn't have the same pull for a zoomer if he doesn't first play at least skyrim.

>>718668524
>you want to play Skyrim?
>play Morrowind instead!
Why are you tards like this?
Morrowind is a shitty gameplay experience and is nothing like Skyrim. There's a reason Morrowind "fans" are always talking about loreshit and never gameplay.

>>718669561
>the beggining is just so hard to go through for a dopamine addled game enjoyer today
GOOD.
Zoomies and Gen-A toddlers need to be de-toxed already. Would do the industry good, A LOT.

>>718669593
Because TES:M is an actually good, well crafted, truly open-ended and non-handholdy ROLE-PLAYING game, where as Goyrim is literally Xbox-360-noscope "Fallout 3 but in medieval Norway!"

>There's a reason Morrowind "fans" are always talking about loreshit and never gameplay.
Correct: because lore and personal journeys are the key aspects of adventure and role-playing games, and the gameplay is very serviceable. The Skyrim x Fortnite x Elden Ring babbys just get filtered by anthing that does not handhold you through the game and give you a fancy sword to 1-shot every foe within the first 15 minutes.

>>718669909
>personal journeys
lol
lmao
>the gameplay is very serviceable
LOL
LMAO

>>718668176 (OP)
My first playthrough was without the unofficial patch or any mods and I didn't encounter anything gamebreaking, you'll be fine. Worst case scenario you can always use console commands to fix any broken quests or other shit.

What pisses me off the most are all those creation club and mini-dlc shit they added to the base game

>>718669089
No, i want to play base original skyrim fixed and without changing anything like putting red mist in a cave or putting archery in a different stone, so on and so forth.

Like the other guys said here, i'm just going to try downloading an playing the special edition and see how it goes.

>>718670396
>My first playthrough was without the unofficial patch or any mods and I didn't encounter anything gamebreaking, you'll be fine.
Ok thanks.

>What pisses me off the most are all those creation club and mini-dlc shit they added to the base game
Really? like what?

>>718670692
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Creation_Club
NTA, but I don't mind them.

>>718668176 (OP)
I played the vanilla version, and it was fine.
Just a bit boring after a while.

>>718670916
Ohhh ok, so it's just microtransactions, it's not actually in the game if i don't bought then download it right?

If it's just that i don't mind either.

>>718671229
Cool thanks.

Is it okay to buy the special edition? If so is the anniversary DLC worth it?

>>718671532
>Is it okay to buy the special edition?
There are still a shit ton of mods for it anyway, but might as well as buy anniversary if you have the money.

>>718671324
Fishing, Rare Curios, Survival Mode, and Saints and Seducers are in the base game for free.
The other 70 are in the Anniversary Edition upgrade.

>>718668176 (OP)
The bugs are exaggerated. Yeah it IS a buggy mess if you don't use any patches, but not to the point where the game just breaks like retards seem to think it does. If I could play the original on xbox 360 for thousands of hours then you can play it just fine.

>>718668176 (OP)
Yes, the unofficial patch does do some retarded stuff they should have never touched, but overall, it does fix a lot of bugs that were in the vanilla game. You're better off just adding minor mods that improve the game if you want as close to a vanilla experience as possible.

>>718668176 (OP)
Its not like copies on the PS3 or Xbox 360 stopped existing.

>>718672536
SkyUI would be one example.

>>718671702
Omfg, just searched a little, there's a ton of stuff from mods integrated onto the game, i found a downgrade patch, well might as well try it out.

>>718672536
I think i'm gonna have to spend a feel hours researching mods when i eventually play it, see if theres fixes that i can put that does not require the unofficial patch, i just hope this list already existed :/

If i can't i'll just follow the sugestions and play the special edition as it is and see what happens.

i just tried playing and installed 10 or so mods. everything went fine. the second i tried installing sex mods things broke. fuck this

>>718668375
i dont know about skyrim but people say the same thing about fallout that you cant play them on pc without bugfix mods. ive played all three without any mods and they work fine. just hearsay

>>718673803
People overreact and act like Bethesda games are super buggy, but they never really are.

how do i do a destruction magic build

>>718673803
Had troubles with FNV memories.
It was game-breaking, but it was fine outside of that one bug especially after I installed the 4gb patch

>>718668176 (OP)
I’m phone posting in bed with my kitty to my side.

>>718668745
You can simply get fitgirl's repack of Skyrim SE, no need to make drama out of this.

>>718669561
>it's not supposed to be fun
>if you want to explore dungeons and stuff you need to study the lore and fill out your spreadsheets correctly

>>718676249
Builds only really matter in Morrowind. Skyrim is more or less the same with most of it's abilities.

>>718676528
FNV can be played by simply getting YUP, 4gb patch, and Deus Ex spread mod. The rest barely matters.

>>718676249
>destruction
>skyrim
lmao.

>>718668176 (OP)
>I just found out about the unofficial patch retardation and about not being just bug fixes
qrd?

>>718677063
The creator (Arthmoor) is a power hungry sperg who keeps fucking with everybody's time by changing shit and bickering with 90% of community. It's a surprise he isn't beat up to the pulp irl.

>>718676986
>>it's not supposed to be fun
It becomes much more fun the moment you get the absorb health spell and enchant a sword with it.

>>718668176 (OP)
>Also know that Skyrim without any fix it's impossible to play because bethesda never fixed the game
there are bugs but it's not impossible

>>718677263
>absorb health sword
>not absorb health nuke

>>718668812
I've played hundreds of hours of vanilla. There's nothing to worry about.

>download game from steam
>press play
Do you zoomers need tutorials for everything?

>>718668176 (OP)
>Also know that Skyrim without any fix it's impossible to play because bethesda never fixed the game
Not true at all you fucking retard

>>718677419
skyrim is a zoomer era game though.
You are talking to a gen alpha at this point.

I guess play the xbox 360 version and just don't connect the xbox to the internet so it doesn't update

>>718668812
Other than some hiccups here and there, you can 100% Special Edition from start to finish. I've done few completionist runs and completed Skyrim 100% without much problems with exception of few broken quests that easily break because Bethesda can't do shit right sometimes. Mods are just additional flavor. You only install them if you're bored or want to add more content.

damn ESLs are so fucking retarded DAMN

>>718677419
The problem is bad reputation that comes from Bethesda because Bethesda games often don't go together with quality. It's common for people to acknowledge that if something runs on Bethesda's engine, it needs mods to be playable.

>>718677872
damn

>>718670253
NTA Skyrim'c combat is not markedly different than Morrowind's. Dual casting actually makes magick OP right from the beginning, and the "all hits connect" change maked the stealth archer meme.

>>718677063
Unofficial patch is bundled with a lot of changes to the game made by the retarded power hungry that oversees it, like major stuff that goes WAY beyond just bug fixes, so if you're playing with the patch you're not playing the vanilla game.

>>718668812
Not broken at all really
You need to remember that consolefags played these games flawlessly more or less

>>718678104
No, the problem is modders and modfags shilling mods to everyone that ever touches any game. All bethesda games are 100% completable front to back without a single mod installed. If they weren't, the console versions wouldn't be completable.

>>718671604
>paying for anniversery
The CC is free of you know where to look

>>718668176 (OP)
You can literally just play the game and it will work just fine with some charming jank in between. No need for unofficial patch autism, ever.
>t.played Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim without patches

>>718677312
My fear came from some commentaries that i've read about some quests that are completelly broken without the patch

>>718668812
>special edition
no. special edition is not at all the vanilla experience. play the original 2011 version or don't bother

>>718680167
I can't play TES 3 or 4 without leveling mods. The system they have is just so ass.

>>718680167
>>718677629
What about these broken quests? can you talk about without spoiler?

>>718668176 (OP)
Just play the fucking game vanilla then. are you going to ask how to launch it next? you already have the answer.

>>718680397
On my uber autism i actually brought it when i found out i still can buy it on steam, i have both the original and the special.

>>718680518
Some of the scripts don't work properly, so you are stuck with a quest that has no condition where you can complete it.

>>718680518
He probably just means the civil war quests or blood on the ice.
Both of which, despite the many bugfix patches both official and unofficial, are still liable to break.

>>718680518
Just save frequently and you shouldn't have a problem

>>718680687
>>718680647
Damn i'll keep a look on these quests when i play it, thanks.

>>718680167
>>718680518
I don't know about broken quests in Skyrim, didn't encounter any in my playthroughs. Oblivion had some weird bug where I sequence-broke the Hackdirt quest accidentally though.

>>718680485
I really enjoy Morrowinds loot and leveling system; only issue is that breaking the game gets super easy once you know some item locations. Oblivion's leveling is fucked though, just adjust the leveling slider and treat it as immersive sim.

>>718668524
why would you play the shitty 32 bit port that is for sure going to run worse?

I wanna play it too.
What build should i make?

>>718680187
I played the game without the unofficial patch, did every main questline and most of the sidequests (if not all), and the only issue I found is some quests refusing the be deleted from your journal after completing them. Well, and Blood on the Ice refusing to work as it should but I don't know what the fuck is going on with that one.

>>718680962
>leveling slider
Fuck I meant difficulty slider
And as >>718680764 said, just make a habit of quicksaving often and you're golden.

>>718681091
I keep hearing about this particular quest, that is fubar.

>>718681091
BoTI is an infamously janky quest
It's three day initial check was known to sometimes crash people back in the LE days

>>718680962
I wouldn't hate it so much if it weren't for the health pool thing with Endurance not applying retroactively. It triggers my autism in the worst way and just feels awful.

>>718680985
Because special edition fucked up the lighting, completely ruining the atmosphere of the game with garish colors and anti-soul gas. They even made the textures blurrier. And despite this game having the biggest modding scene of all time it still hasn't been fixed.

>>718668176 (OP)
>Also know that Skyrim without any fix it's impossible to play
1) holy esl
2) holy retardation

I got 250 hours with nothing but a framerate uncapper and SkyUI and I only ran into two NPC pathing issues.
And even those mods weren't strictly necessary, I just got autistic about the laggy cursor and camera. Oblivion running at 30 fps never bothered me but something about Skyrim's UI and performance was uniquely jarring

>>718681874
>laggy cursor and camera
The mouse dragging always bothered me too, but it went away when I upgraded to a 165Hz screen. Never noticed problems with the camera though.

>>718684913
For me, it's Forsworn armor.

>>718681874
>250 hours
A save can survive that long now? Granted last time i played was before the 64-bit version.

Trick question
you dont

>>718680485
>I can't play TES 3 or 4 without leveling mods
Another zoomer successfully filtered.

Honestly never had any game breaking bugs in vanilla skyrim but the piece of shit keeps crashing on alt tab 100% of time. Also you have to cap the framerate somehow because the physics engine really doesn't like more than 120 fps.

>>718686652
damn that's a nice ass

>>718668176 (OP)
The only way to play Skyrim as Todd the God intended is through a PS3 and getting all the trophies in the same save file.

>>718686652
>coomer fag
Begone, you vile coomer, you fiend who has willed your way out of the gates of Hell (/vg/)
Begone! Begone I say and stop shitting up these threads once and for all!

>>718668176 (OP)
I'm about to start another vanilla playthrough on SD. Modding is cool in theory but I never end up playing the game for long after completing my modlists

>>718680485
You are the reason developers don't innovate. Don't worry, there are plenty of shit games out there with basic bitch XP systems so you don't have to wrap your little brain around real mechanics.

>>718668375
I managed to finish the main story and faction quests on the PS3 back in 2011. Most of the bugs you'll encounter these days aren't game breaking. You'll actually risk more bugs and game breaking shit than vanilla if you install 1000+ mods.

>>718668176 (OP)
>>718668375
i literally played pirated Skyrim-RazeR from 2013, with no DLCs or anything on a shitty ThinkPad and it was actually kino
no mods, patches, DLC, just pure ol' Sky's Rim
>>718669330
>i plan to play every TES on release order
good luck with Arena and DF...you will not have fun

>>718668176 (OP)
Speaking of Skyrim, I never played it, which version should I get- GOG or Steam.

>>718669330
1K hours easily, I can't imagine doing that and not burning out, maybe re-think this. At least skip Arena and Daggerfall like that other guy said. 3-5 are all just slow evolutions of a theme. You'd be best off playing 3:Morrowind until 6:Hammerfall comes out, and just imagining Oblivion and Skyrim are somewhere in between those two.

>>718668524
t.

>>718691370
They are literally the same

>>718691731
Is the first 2 really that bad?
I always do this, just doing it with fallout rn, finished the first 2 last year and really liked both, i'll play fallout 3 soon and maybe NV next year

>>718668176 (OP)
>is there a way or alternative to play this game but without the unofficial patch?
A Puristnt's Edited Patch (APEP)

>>718668176 (OP)
The Unofficial Patch is still ultimately worth it for the other 80% of things that it does fix. You can un-autism the patch with the following:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32371
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51232

>>718668812
Special Edition doesn't look at all like what Skyrim was meant to look like. Todd was afraid the rerelease wouldn't seem like an upgrade if the game's visuals were the same (the upgrade was more under the hood than anything else ie upgrading the engine from x32 to x64 which made the game far more stable and better to mod) so the entire game was made warmer with the contrast cranked up. OG Skyrim is way colder, more blue, more cold. So either play the original release or install this mod that brings the original ambience back:
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/8089

>>718692412
>Is the first 2 really that bad
NTA and no they're not, as long as you have tolerance for 90s games. They're more dungeon crawlers than anything else, but if you like TES they're worth it to at least see where things started and how many things they got right (or wrong) from the get go

>>718692554
There's also this
https://rentry.org/mq2b8
one of the /tesg/ regulars linked it, its supposed to be a compilation of mods that undue some of the retarded changes to USSEP

>>718676249
https://youtu.be/URnoXm6Kq4k?t=37

>>718680764
Yeah that won't help with quests like the Windhelm serial killer, buddy

>>718692554
>x32
There's no such thing

>>718692554
In all honesty, I'd more prefer Skyrim being more moody and bleaker to truly show that the game is set in north. You know, make sky blindingly white or grey like it's winter, trees darker, grass being sand coloured and almost wilted, etc.

>>718693660
>m-muh x86!
You know exactly what I meant

>>718692042
We used to make fun of these guys, now we pray that they take over the industry again. It was so much better when picrel were making and playing games.

>>718692412
Whatever you do get the modded daggerfall version, so you can enjoy higher definition titties that is.

>>718692698
I'm cool with old games, played System Shock for the first time this year and love it, one of the best fps that i played in a long time.

>>718692803
I'll definitely look this up

>>718668176 (OP)
thats easy to just play vanilla, just keep the wiki open and when you get a new quest check out what bugs there might be for it.
theres one in the top left major city when you enter and a guy gets killed, doing it the wrong way will cause an item to forever stay in your inventory taking up weight

you could also just do the resto exploit to make great gear and finish the main story being OP

>>718694572
Then you'll probably enjoy them. With that said, Daggerfall is a *huge* upgrade compared with Arena which is admittedly a far more limited game in scope. The game is essentially "do dungeon so the ruler of the province tells you where the bigger dungeon is at, then do said bigger dungeon" eight times, one per province sans Cyrodiil. In-between you sell the dungeon loot and use it to buy better weapons or armor. Don't be afraid to look up dungeon maps online, because they get rather ridiculous later on and they're very much made with the "kids in the 90s have tons of free time" mentality. In fact, be it Steam or GOG, the game comes with its original strategy guide with a section for maps too.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2940815466
Last but not least: Thieves are useless. Magic is retardedly busted. If you go Warrior, go with the Knight class as it's immune to Paralysis.

>>718668176 (OP)
Patch the bugs as you encounter them I guess. If you're playing on PC you can disable the DLC content whenever you want (which is how Special "Ed" Edition should have functioned) and you can resort to console commands if there's no other way. It sure doesn't feel good to use console commands, though, since it robs you of a satisfying playing experience.

>>718669909
True. I played Morrowind when I was recovering from a wisdom tooth extraction and I detoxed my ADHD and got super invested and immersed in the game. In reality, my ADHD just allowed me to focus on nothing but the game.

>>718686652
It's a shame we can't have games with arses this pretty in them by default.

>>718695341
Thanks for the tip but i'll try playing it with only the game and the manual, if i do get stuck i'll try looking up the strategy that comes with it, didn't know about it.

>>718668176 (OP)
I recommend using the unofficial patch. On my first playthrough of Skyrim, the thieves guild AND mages guild quests broke so horribly that I couldn't even get them back up with console commands. Other misc quests broke too. You can use the "purist's patch" which essentially reverts the unofficial patch's more liberal changes. You can get emotional about the absurdity of backpatching a bug fix patch or you can just accept it for what it is.
There are a ton of other mods that I would call "essential", if only for performance and crashes, but I'm too lazy to list them out.

>>718697049
Does this purist patch remove all of the stupid UP changes or just some of them?

>>718697547
iirc it's mostly targeting the intrusive gameworld changes, like redbelly and solitude trees for example, and various perk changes like necromage and fire/frenzy keyword stuff. There's a separate mod if you want the fortify restoration exploit back, I forget what it's called.

>>718668745
anon some of the early version of skyrim uploaded by razor had a nice loader/booting track do you know how or where to find their source ?

>>718692554
right looks better only because the filter makes the game slightly darker and covers up the shit lighting
>b-but muh atmoshpere!
yes, cause, as we all know, nordish landscapes mean post apocalypse

vanilla is perfectly fine
most mods arent very good. Just install mods that enhance the vanilla experience and things like ui improvements

>>718695796
this is the only way to enjoy that game now. People with responsibilities can't sit down for an hour a day and enjoy it. You have to have multiple unbroken hours to immerse.

>>718692554
Is this image saying the Switch version is a good version of vanilla?

>>718696542
The dungeons get so long and convoluted, you'll likely experience burnout quickly. Almost the whole game is just going from one dungeon to another multi-hour long dungeon, to another and they all mostly look the same, but can get huge.

>>718692554
Imagine being so much of a fucking contrarian retard you start promoting the same "desaturated, extra foggy" version of the visuals that you whine about in every new game that appears desaturated and foggy.

>>718699341
>cause, as we all know
Please don't talk ike a faggot redditor, anon. The original lighting is king because it's the one intended by Bethesda in their fantasy videogame, it has nothing to do with "muh realism". Skyrim is not Cyrodiil. If they wanted the game to look like it did in SE it would've look like that half a decade prior and during its 5 years of development as well.

>>718700468
>that you whine about in every new game
A couple more weeks here and you'll hopefully realize John /v/ideogames isn't a single person

>>718692554
NORDIC
ATMOSPHERIC
KINO

>>718669909
>mentioning elden ring out of nowhere
absolutely mindbroken

>>718698726
I know they had the artist Dubmood doing a lot of their music before but other than typing "skyrim razor 1911 music" in youtube I don't know how to find the name of the tracks

>>718680995
Spellsword

osex doesnt work no matter what i do what am i doing wrong

>>718668176 (OP)
Play a better game.

The Elder Scrolls V: Serana

Some what related to this thread. when I boot up skse on MO2, Requiem keeps shitting the bed whenever I start a new game. Someone said I need to install skse on MO2 for Requiem to work, but I don’t know how you do that

>>718668176 (OP)
I admire your principle of playing the OG patch version, for many games like Dark Souls it's the best idea. Skyrim is not one of those games.

>>718705279
hey, you cant just say the n-word like that

>>718707214
She just doesn't appreciate Redguard Dragonborns

>>718668176 (OP)
Play it in VR with VRIK

>>718668176 (OP)
Just go into the game's data folder and delete the DLC and CC files, that's what I did.

>>718668176 (OP)
Well if you want to use Wabbajack check this ling out it is a skyrim modlist flowchart:
https://www.figma.com/board/obqet5Mvte1C2l849BbBSq/Wabbajack-Skychart?node-id=706-264
(you dont need nexus premium for it you can just get auto clicker to click on manual download button like me)

>>718709251
Sexy bow
Ugly armor

>>718669593
>never gameplay.
Your Skyrim "gameplay" is downloading 100 child porn mods, playing for an hour and then not touching it again for a year

>>718692554
finally a mod that gets rid of this ugly colored sky
thank you

>>718668176 (OP)
>how to play vanilla
How do you expect to play it? It just works/plays. So just play it.
>atrocious scroll-down UI
>no sorting options in container/storage
>shallow mechanics
Yeah, its not going to be THAT enjoyable.
If you have AE/SE, play with those, atleast you have access to Fishing, Saints & Seducers, and a whole lot of other CC shit that comes free with SE/AE, thereby spicing up content just enough to be enjoyable.

>>718711687
My issue is that you cannot get an unenchanted versions of those or most of unique gear, or craft them.
>armor looks good
>its already enchanted
>enchants are shit
>cannot get an unenchanted one
That rustles my jimmies.

>>718668176 (OP)
>i want the original experience
Play vanilla Legendary Edition.
>that Skyrim without any fix it's impossible to play
Nonsense. Its very much playable. Sure, there are some bugs, but few and far between, and none if you are not a retard.
>bethesda never fixed the game
They did multiple times, however, they did not do a thorough bugfixing.

>>718676528
>>718677009
Im playing it right now with just a 4gb patch.

>>718668375
>fpbp
lots of retarded contrarians itt, vanilla skyrim is trash tier

>>718668176 (OP)
The unofficial patch is not necessary to play the game. Outside of a small handful of issues that can cause save file bloat (ash piles, arrows, etc) there's nothing the patch actually does that's necessary, most if not all of the reasons the patch was needed were made irrelevant when Bethesda switched the game from a 32bit.exe to a 64bit.exe.
Just play the special edition and you'll be fine.

does skyrim have anything similar to fallouts cheat terminal ?

>>718715762
coc qasmoke

>>718668176 (OP)
Vanilla Skyrim is unplayable. Have some standards, anon.
>ugly NPCs
>ugly textures
>terrible combat
>bugs