Thread 718670707

>https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/explanation/2025/1st/explanation_2025_1st_02.pdf
>game fell short of sales expectations after initial launch
>they learnt their lesson moving forward
>discount mainly helped in home consoles sales in Asia
>they hope sales will improve after TU3 and TU4, this winter

>>718670707 (OP)
Surely throwing more cow dung at the game's code will fix this.

Roblox

who cares about wilds, i refunded that shit

when will sega also admit that their cross platform next gen MMO PSO2 NGS also fell short?

Good news everyone!

REMEMBER EXOPRIMAL?

>>718670707 (OP)
Roll out the HD remasters of the old games, Capcom. Nobody is buying this shit.

In Japan Rise outsold Wilds on PSN last month.

>>718670707 (OP)
Good, maybe they’ll stop wasting everyone’s time with 20 minutes of Monster Hunter bullshit every time they do a show.

>>718670707 (OP)
What happened?

>>718672118
it's a very shitty game

>>718671687
Wild stuff, hopefully whatever retardations infected the mainline team haven't reached the portable team for the switch 2 game

>>718672118
Game runs poorly, story campaign was short with a weak narrative & the endgame content is too shallow even for the hard-core grinders.

>>718670707 (OP)
game looked turbo woke
in fact capcom has been pretty woke for a while now
normalizing trannism and pushing ugly girlbosees everywhere while exclusing masculine and cool white male characters

Just fucking release a half-assed g-rank expansion and move on. You can't unfuck Wilds with patches or content updates.

>>718670707 (OP)
Nice.

>>718670707 (OP)
mogged by Chadreign

I still don't get how world sold so much. I thought your average joe hated that much grinding?

>>718672118
>take MH
>dumb down/streamling the hunting part
>add in extremely shitty story
>don't care about optimization so the game runs like shit when you're actually playing it, because you're too busy focusing on the story
>go around claiming that the reason people play MH is for the story, not for the hunting of monsters
my biggest concern is if this retard will either realize people play MH games for the gameplay or, if his head is too far up his ass, if they'll let him go before he can do more damage

>>718674901
MH is always about the grinding, and the grinding in World was fun

>>718674901
There is no grinding

>>718674916
It isn't just Ryozo, but Tokuda, too. Tokuda specifically mentioned multiple times his desire to prioritize story and ecosystem over the actual gameplay.

>>718670707 (OP)
If you sold 10 million copies does post launch even matter?

>>718676947
line must go up goy

Can Monster Hunter go back to being a Japanese game already.

>>718676947
yeah it does
look at what re6 did to 7

Apologize.

They won't take the actual lesson that the bad performance fucked it. Even /v/ thinks it's about "woke" or whatever when the simple fact is that a game that runs like shit on 90% of computers is not going to be that successful.

Be honest with me bros
Can a expansion save wilds?

>PS3 graphics
>Retarded interface
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>Million tiers of tempered monsters so you are forced to fight the same monsters over and over again
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>No Elder Dragons
>No HR final boss
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

>>718677198
I think they are because they're promising to fix the performance finally after previously saying they "optimized it as much as possible"

>never fix the cutscenes and intrusive story in World making the game a chore to co-op
>never fixed tenderizing
>doubled down on all these things for the next release while somehow making the game uglier
Genuinely what is the mainline team smoking?

>>718670707 (OP)
You know shit's fucked when the Japs review bombed the game.

>>718676947
They want it to keep going anon.

>>718670707 (OP)
Tendiejeet thread

>>718670707 (OP)
>10 million sales at full price
>still not enough
Just go out of business then, you greedy kikes or better yet, try making good games again.

>>718677440
I don't know. The last patch is a big step in the right direction. But there are a bunch of fundamentally bad decisions that are going to continue to cripple the game forever. Chief among them is the way the maps work and the abortive attempt at having a fully interconnected world.

>>718670707 (OP)
>>718670707 (OP)
Huh? How did it fall short of expectations when it’s the most selling MH?

Didn’t it sell 11 million copies? Wasn’t it their most selling game?

>>718677440
No because I am not doing 50 fucking walking story sections like Ass Creed just to get to it even if it were the best thing ever made.

>switch 2 games are selling well
sisters??? our narrative?????

>>718678324
it hasn't even outsold Rise anon.

>casualize game to appeal to a broader audience
>said audience never comes
im mad

>>718678324
>*fastest selling
It's the power of word of mouth after everyone realizes the game sucks.

>>718678324
"we thought nips and chinks would endlessly eat sand month-on"

>>718671562
I remember thinking it meant a dino crisis announcement was at most a year or two away...

Capcom now has one of two options: risk using their own launcher for future titles and piss everyone off even more, or live with the fact that people will mod the game on Steam regardless of how hard you torpedo your own performance with DRM.

>>718678436
>game out for more years with expansion vs one without
retarded way of thinking

>>718670707 (OP)
Capcom will be okay bro relax. seems like SF6 and Kunitsu Gami did well on the switch huh? cool, good for them those games are a blast.

>>718670707 (OP)
TU 4 and 5 are going to be a shitshow. Mark my words.

>>718678324
On day of release it sold well, but it plummeted after that
That's how bad it got

LOLI
CUNNY
SHORTSTACK

Either bend the knee or my wallet doesn't open

>>718670707 (OP)
I say they should double the effort they put in with ecelebs and vtrannies shilling the game pre-launch. People will eat up whatever they shit out if they have their endorsement

Should have prioritized removing Denuvo

>>718678914
are you concerned, hoping or celebrating bro? kinda hard to tell man either way relax bro it’ll be okay.

There is quite literally nothing you can do to save Milds without removing focus mode, wounds, and a bunch of other bullshit (They won't btw)
Plus they're 100 percent doubling down on the godawful story shit with the expansion like they did in IB

>>718678579
I always feel like I’m taking crazy pills in MH discussion, these games have never been hard

>>718678917
>>718678730
>>718678670
Rise also sold like shit in the beginning but I guess you Nintendies forgot but I guess it’s okay when Nintendo does it huh?

>they learnt their lesson moving forward
Not a chance
>>718678357
>No because I am not doing 50 fucking walking story sections like Ass Creed just to get to it even if it were the best thing ever made.
The base game has too many problems for an expansion to convince the skeptics

>>718674901
Monster hunter getting wanked for over decade as this heckin epic series that was locked to the PSP and DS got people desperate to try it once it got released on actual hardware from beyond the year 2004 and of course everyone found out it was mid af and didnt buy the next ones

>>718677657
don't they say this with every update

>>718677440
the problem with wilds is on the very foundation of the game's main gimicks so if they are going to fix wilds, they might as well make a new game.

Reminder that it sold over 10 million copies already, ranking in Capcom's best selling games of all time. Anything they earn beyond this point is just a bonus.

>>718677440
I'd say yes.
Base Rise is worse than Base Wilds.
Sunbreak however is infinitely better.

>>718677141
That render looks awful.

Great game tho. Just give me MH4's gameplay tempo and have Silkbind attacks be meter based instead of a timer, nerf wirefalls, do something about sharpening when mounted, and bring back the flex where you get a +5% ATK/Affinity boost when you tap to gulp and flex in a single go as opposed to holding down the button to heal.

>>718679070
>not played the game: the post

>>718678324
From what I've read it was their biggest launch on Steam, but sales and players fell flat right after

>>718674916
>>don't care about optimization so the game runs like shit when you're actually playing it, because you're too busy focusing on the story
Do you think the devs in charge of optimisation are the same as those in charge of the story?
Retard

>>718679758
>Base Rise is worse than Base Wilds.

Anon, Base Rise never had a drop off in playerbase like what happened to Wilds a month after release. What are you talking about?

>>718670707 (OP)
>Release a broken game with no content and a story that makes the player not wanna play
>Game sells like shit

>VERY hyped for launch
>shit performance
>wait for patch
>patch never comes
What were they expecting? For me to buy it anyway and be unable to play?

>>718679247
Explicitly false narrative when you consider that not only was Iceborne an all-time player peak, but it also sold like crazy

>>718670707 (OP)
Capcom has almost always been all in on whatever their top 3 series are. So if MH is down and DMC is up, the chance for DMC6 is pretty good now.

>>718679847
>Y-You don't like the garbage mechanics built for shitters that don't even like MH and the dogshit story?
>REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>718670707 (OP)
>they hope sales will improve after TU3 and TU4, this winter
Sales won't improve until the final monster is added to the major DLC the game will get in a year or two. People have wised up to how MH works and are waiting for the complete game, rather than endlessly farming for gear that will be completely useless when the DLC hits.

>>718670707 (OP)
I dont get it bros. you can’t complain about the game being too casual while shitting and pissing your skirts about line not going up.
what would make you faggots happy, honest question.
a more hardcore game or more sales? you cant have both bro I think. its sad but thats just reality man you feel me

>>718679942
Because base Rice had no players. Period.
Jokes aside, yes it fucking did. It dropped off a fucking cliff

>>718670707 (OP)
b-but you can equip female clothing on Body Type A? bros?

>dick-ride on the success on Morld
>manage to launch a game that runs worse than DD2
No shit it underperformed, Milds would be at 20mil+ if it didn't. This was such an easy moneymaker for Capcom I can't believe they managed to fuck it up. A mix of hubris, greed and incompetence I guess.

>>718680387
yea man, its an option bro which is cool since there quiet a few nice female looking pieces that works on chad male characters like mine. specially the headpieces.

KEKAROOOOO!!!!

>>718680537
just get a ps5 bro it works great on just a base mode like I am having an absolute blast with no problems.

>>718680637
I'm not paying 800 bucks for a PS5 Pro

>>718680730
I just told you it works great on a base
model you dummy

>A fucking 5090 can't run the game above 60 FPS without DLSS AI fake frame bullshit
Gee weird huh?
If the game is good, then it will still be good in 3 years when it is on sale on steam for $15 and my 6090 RTX can run it at 120 FPS (real frames)
Same with Dragons Dogma 2 actually. There's no FOMO for capcom games.

>>718670707 (OP)
But how can I make this about NINTENDO??

>IT'S PERFECT I SWEAR
>YOU JUST HAVE TO PURCHASE A PS5
so transparent...

>>718677141
If you are a faging nintendofaggot at least praise the good games like mh4u and 3u

>>718680637
It's not the performance, not really

>>718680537
goddamn, Japan HATES it

Everyone I knew bought WORLD when it came out. By the time Rise was released they had lost interest.

>>718681520
well what is it then? what is keeping you from having a blast with Wilds?

>>718681661
that was evident when Iceborn flopped

>>718680537
>jp review: well written critique of the game in various aspects, esoecially gameplay, shitty story, etc, then inluding performance
>en review: great game with just performance issue
How braindead is the western fanbase

>>718681764
>flopped
you dont really believe in what youre saying bro

>>718681764
In what fucking world did Iceborne flop? Are you well?

>>718681661
>>718681764
Why did they lose interest

>>718681702
No Brachy

>>718681812
>>718681615
dont get it bros then why does every single lobby look like this?

>>718680798
I'm not buying an outdated base model

>>718681940
I see. well hopefully hes added in Wilds just for you bro.

>>718672118
what happened is that they tried to release world 2 but forgot to sell it a second time on PC. fun fact that now expensive hardware also can't bruteforce the shit code

>>718681156
>>A fucking 5090 can't run the game above 60 FPS without DLSS AI fake frame bullshit
Just get 2 of them.
What are you? Poor?

Why was the avatarfagging shill absent when MHR was new and getting shit on constantly?

>>718680637
>>718680798
holy shit that looks awful

>>718682160
no no no, just get a ps5 (base model) bros dont be stupid man

Doomer thread

>>718681842
>>718681869
Iceborn sold a fraction of World

>>718682249
snoys are just obnoxious

>>718682273
I think it looks good bro, definitely a massive improvement from their two previous titles.

>>718670707 (OP)
GET FUCKED WORLDTROONS

>>718672118
I was told thirdies didn't have a pc powerful enough to play the game. They chose Black Ops 6 instead.

>>718682363
it looks desaturated and upscaled

>>718682317
word man. well and we still got two more great MH games since iceborne release. so thats what Im saying man Capcom will be just fine bro relax

>>718682317
No it didn't. It last I checked it was literally close to 50% of total World sales, if not higher.

>>718677141
I never besmirched such kino

>>718682317
>Iceborn sold a fraction of World
Iceborne sold 71% of World which is huge you fucking retard.

>>718682473
well it definitely looks like a massive improvement over their two previous titles in every way bro

>>718677141
I will never forgive them for dango.

>>718682558
They gave it away for free on PSN.

>>718681842
I saw you run from the FF schizo the other day, you won't defend the game when its actually difficult. coward.

>>718682317
>>718682501
Actually I looked it up. It was even higher than 50%, 14M to MHWs ~21M, numbers from March, 25

>>718677440
Nah. People skipped Wilds because of performance and art direction, the G-rank expansion can't replace an engine.

>>718682673
wut? you must be confusing me with someone else bro can you point to a single post where I had any interaction with this bro of yours?

he’s even repeating the having a blast line in a sad attempt at owning it
absolute humiliation ritual tier

>>718682581
it really doesn't. nobody asked for them to "up" the resolution with upscaling. nobody asked for it to have a white sheet over the screen. it doesn't help that it can't maintain 60 fps ok anything

>>718682558
How is Iceborne still selling so much?!
It will take over base Rise at this point and be in Capcom's top 3 of all time soon kek

>>718682770
how can anyone confuse you with someone else when you’re the only avatarfag?

>>718682804
It really is baffling that they slap volumetric fog on every single thing when it rarely looks good in motion

>>718672118
It’s a bad video game

>>718682851
You do realize that Rise isn't standing still either, right?

>>718682804
at least with the benchmarking tool and one of the betas, it looked so blurry with brown/dark smudges I couldn't really figure that out on my end

>>718682804
here bro guess your memory is a bit hazy and you cant remember what World looks like hope its not a side effect of the jab for the fake coofs. dont tell me you accepted it bro oh geez man!
World is a blast and also a great looking game, but Wilds is definitely a massive improvement bro.

>>718682939
>POV: Rise not standing still

>>718670707 (OP)
Keep in mind this is talking about first quarter sales which INCLUDES launch. Wilds is even worse the following two quarters were it nearly got outsold by rise

>>718682874
well I cant recall having any arguments about FF bro so thats why I asked you to point out such posts and refresh my noggin

>>718683013
Try actual metrics, sold 389k last quarter

>>718672118
It ran like shit, EVEN ON CONSOLES. The fucking BETA period is when alarms should've been ringing at Capcom and them delaying, but instead they didn't.

It's funny a Brazilian-Boricua I know was touting this game, and they work in I.T. the fucking thing ran like dogshit on a 30XX card, and you're telling me to buy it?

>>718682770
>>718683123

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/718525120/#718545031

Coward.

>>718676947
>will it matter if it sold more than any other game in your catalog and multiple times of World and Rise, but now you can't even be sure if it beats Rise in sales.
Does it matter if you buy a house, but can't pay for credits in a year anymore?

>>718683012
OR you could show that game running on PC, where it looks infinitely better

>>718683214
Deflecting to the performance is a shill tactic, the games performance is of similar quality to every other aspect of the game.

>>718683170
holy fuck man Wilds sold 400k and Rise another 300k+
bros why are you so concerned?! Capcom will live man once again just relax lol

>>718683214
Capcom couldn't delay because Wilds was set to release at the end of the quarter so they could prop up their numbers for the ((investors)).
They did the same thing with DD2, iirc.

>>718679898
Yes? Who is the game designer? Who is the one that "OK"'s the optimization and story?

The producer is the one's whose head should be on the chopping block, but the Biohazard Engine teams' should be next after given the ONLY decent performing titles on that engine are:

Biohazard 7
Devil May Cry 5
(Maybe) Biohazard 8

And that's it.

why is an avtarfag spamming bro here as if anyone is mad?

>>718683370
attention like always.

>>718683370
He’s Indian

>>718672118
They released an unplayable game unless you had a 7900 XT minimum PC, and the game itself was meh at best with a shit story.

>>718672118
It runs like shit and it was dumbed down to a point where even fucking Worldbabs were complaining about how easy it was

>>718683305
can they make a good game and not wilds tier slop? i doubt it

>>718683239
I dont see me arguing with anyone all I see is me commenting on what a blast that FF monster collab looks. geez man trust me bro I have nothing against FF man

>>718683370
I don’t think he has any friends

>>718683491
>makes two posts and then abandons the thread because he was getting out-schizo'd

>>718683361
What the fuck am I fucking reading.
In no fucking world are the writers who are in charge of the god awful story in any way involved with the developers who are in charge of the engine and game.
Like holy fuck, do you think this is a small indie studio where devs do parttime story writing to make ends meet?

>>718683585
it was a FF thread more than a Wilds thread bro
but Im here now man

>>718681812
Extremely. Just see PSO2:NGS's only survey where the West was like "this is shit, but we'll play it because we don't want it to EOL" and Japan was "fuck your game." To where Sega never did surveys again.

Not surprised PSO2-cloners are just as bad in the West.

>>718683361
MHR and GnG Resurrection run well on RE Engine

They should ask the investors to bail them out. Fuck you capcom niggers for ruining both dd2 and mhw

>>718683807
holy fucking based

>>718683940
>DD2
LUV that game its such a blast!

>>718683012
here you go brow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmfrX2X3HLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IpKzOvxDYg
the second video is even from a youtube shill who isn't that convincing.

I have an RTX 2080S and an i5 14600K, 32GB of RAM. If it can't run at at least 1080p 60fps NATIVE then I'm keeping my money.

>>718683932
MHR looks so simple, it would probably run on a N64

>>718683370
he could play the game he's shilling so much instead of wasting time here

>>718670707 (OP)
Clearly what they need to do is get rid of picrel and double down on everything else.

>>718684076
>an i5 14600K
So you're the one responsible for all the house fires recently

>>718683012
That looks horendous because you are playing on console, Try playing MHW on PC with pic.

>>718670707 (OP)
BASED
GET FUCKED WILDSHIT MARKETERS

>>718684071
bro why would I need some gaslight faggot trying to convince me Wilds isnt a blast?! like bro I have over 900 hours on World on a PS4 and had an absolute blast with my time spent playing it with zero issues.
now not only does Wilds look waaaaay better but it also runs way better so like bro, not clicking your fagtuber video you nigger.

>>718670707 (OP)
It's kind of annoying that the only lesson they will take from this is the performance was bad. Not that the casualisation they began with world ruined the IP, not that the stupid shitty cutscenes and terrible narrative was annoying time wasting filler, not that the game is aesthetically boring. They will ignore that sitting on a creature that auto runs to a target is fucking boring and that making the game too easy ruins the entire point of grinding for new equipment which itself is the entire point of the game.

Justice for Dragon's Dogma 2.

>>718684447
you had a pc strong enough back then to run this? very nice bro grats. I played on a ps4 with no issue and then on steam but honestly my could not run this pack.
still looked great though.

>>718672784
This, but unironically.

>>718680337
Anon, Capcom never had investor meetings where they had to admit Rise was underperforming.

>>718670707 (OP)
ignoring the very obvious technical failures of the game they put so much effort into removing any friction from the game that even people who complain about Monster Hunter being too difficult were complaining that it was kind of easy

then of course you have the single worst Low Rank experience I've ever had, just a constant deluge of cutscenes, talking in camps, running to talk to people, walking and talking with people, walking and talking and asking your guild appointed tard wrangler for permission to hunt--and then the hunt takes 4 minutes because the monsters don't hit hard and spend most of the fight flailing on the ground because you've been popping wounds the whole fight

then the endgame grind, especially on release, was abysmal and unfinished (literally) and the updates did little to alleviate it it; artian weapons are atrocious and the system they have for them is stupid

the game has all these systems it advertised as so unique and cool and would differentiate itself from previous titles but they don't actually amount to anything; the alpha system is used like twice in the entire game for story beats and then is entirely dropped; the open world serves no real purpose and nobody actually just goes out and hunts because they just spam SOS like they did in World and Rise

it's pretty telling that all the new monsters they've added (as well as the new 9 star monsters) no only hit so fucking hart it's basically G-Rank lite but the wound system is SEVERELY dialed back to the point where they are a fairly rare occurrence, especially in relation to what they normally are

they don't understand why people enjoy monster hunter anymore and thought they'd just get the same audience as Worlds did because it was Worlds 2; it has so many of the failings of World baked right into it but does nothing to make itself better

>>718683590
>In no fucking world are the writers
Who is talking the writers?

I'm talking the PRODUCER. THE HEAD. THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF *ALL* THE TEAMS.

Please learn reading comprehension.

>>718684810
Im sure you bros have some convincing examples such as…

Wilds won and all you can do is seethe

>>718683932
Rise wasn't the Bio engine, it was some 3DS engine IIRC.

Wilds is the first MH on the Bio engine.

Honestly, Capcom should just bring back the MT Framework engine, that shit was dark magic and runs all games on it extremely well. Just see World vs Rise for that.

>>718670867
….is shit

>>718684978
haha good one bro

>>718684349
Explain

>>718684978
>won
...the most dogshit MH game ever competition

>>718684997
>that shit was dark magic and runs all games on it extremely well
No it didn't. Dragon's Dogma ran like shit and World's performance was rough at the beginning.

>>718685046
>>718685126
seethe

>>718684997
Did you just completely forget the RE Engine logo whenever you launched Rise or something?

>>718685192
Why are you trying to revise history. World is capcom’s best selling game ever. It was a pretty typical, mediocre port. Not when fucking close to the level of diarrhea that is wild’s performance. It’s like a 65/100 compared to a 12/100

>>718684997
>Rise wasn't the Bio engine, it was some 3DS engine IIRC.
>Source: my stinky hairy asshole
Rise was made on RE engine and then the devs at Capcom had to optimize their engine to run on Switch

>>718684720
I had a 2080 Super back then and I can tell you that MHW on that kind of card looks and runs better than Wilds on 4080.

>>718684083
>looks so simple

And whats the problem with that?
As long as the gameplay works, i dont fucking care.
Id still play MHFU if i didnt have to jump through hoops just to play online.

>>718685317
>had to optimize their engine
had to optimize Rise* not the engine itself

>>718684997
>MT Framework engine, that shit was dark magic and runs all games on it extremely well. Just see World vs Rise for that.
Please go read what an engine is dumb nigger

>>718685393
okay but does it look better than Wilds on a ps5(base model)?

>>718685215
haha another good one

>>718672118
>try to become a typical sony third person moviegame including slow forced walk and talks
>Give players even more power via increased avoidance, attack direction shifting and in general make us stronger and monsters cannot keep up
>Feels like a mobile gacha with no real hit detection just going hog wild dancing around slow big enemies like everyone is a dual blades user now
>story is bad but slows the game so it takes far longer to do far less
>barely teaches the mechanics despite all the hand holding
>is the easiest game yet
>the open world meme is a massive detriment and players refuse to play in the way they intend using microcamps you dump resources in to upkeep, instead people just go back to hub after each hunt like always
>Tried to artificially inflate numbers to increase challenge three times, still the easiest monster hunter
>Biggest drop off in players in the series history
>On top of all this the game barely runs on pc which Capcom says is now their primary target audience over consoles

Its just a massive disappointment in every regard. Damn shame.

>>718684601
Yeah what ultimately stopped me from buying wilds is how bad the gameplay was in beta, I could I run the game (though it did look way uglier than it should). Performance and visuals are non issues for me, yet wilds still secured a -1 sale simply from having bad gameplay.

The seikret is genuinely the worst mount/vehicle/transportation system I’ve ever encountered in any video game, and I nearly vomited when I saw focus worked mid swing

>>718679898
>Do you think the devs in charge of optimisation are the same as those in charge of the story?
The producer that will focus on "cinematic experience" will prioritize maximum fidelity, meaning 25FPS with dips on console

>>718685292
Nigger where did I mention Wilds? MT Framework isn't the miracle engine you're making it out to be.

>>718679746
Initial sales aren't going save their goals set for lifetime sales of the game.
Plus theyre panicking because the massive drop off in players is an indication of damage to the brand which will effect their next title and screw them over.

Hopefully focus mode never returns

>>718680197
>71h
you didn't play the game lmao

>>718685472
It really cannot be stated enough just how insanely powerful focus is and how it does not belong in a game like monster hunter. There’s a reason when a game has some form of reticle aiming the weak zone hitbox is usually small as fuck (like a human head), it’s game balance. Adding 100% fool proof analog aiming in a game with huge monsters doesn’t work

In fact we already saw this in gen 5 monster hunter with gunning being insanely powerful. They basically made all weapons gunners

>>718685715
How could he when the game doesnt work?

>>718685651
Nah its staying. Stay mad faggot.

>>718685651
I would be surprised if it did, it’s actually pretty similar to RE6’s wack ass aiming scheme which never returned either

>>718685469
obviously. Have you seen your screenshots?

>>718670707 (OP)
>People expected World 2.0
>Got Tri version 5.0 instead
I happy being an adult with too many things to do kept me from buying day 1. I'll keep waiting for Worlds 2, maybe capcom will get their act together and give the people what they want.

>>718685734
Focus mode is fine, the biggest issue is wounds generated too fast in base game but that’s been corrected

>>718672118
>make live service slop
>make it extra worse this time
>THEN take bribe from Nvidia so it's impossible to run
>players abandon it
>???

>>718685715
Can you blame me when it's a buggy mess where every monster dies in 3 minutes and is void of content

>>718685909
Focus mode is not fine, it annihilates the base gameplay to a point of no return

>>718685894
Wilds is the way it is BECAUSE it's World 2

>>718685651
Only retards think that that's the problem instead of forced story and performance.

>>718686006
Your jank shit is gone and dead. Deal with it bitch.

>>718685909
There’s a metric shit load of games you could play where the core gameplay consists of
>moving the reticle over your target
Focus mode is not ok, and a big reason for why wilds is failing to sell after launch.

>this focus mode retard
Always makes me kaugh

>>718686006
Literally just buzzwords

4U was the only good game mainline team made and they are getting worse not better over time.

Wilds is the Resident Evil 6 of monster hunter. Sells well on release based on hype, then people try it, fucking hate it and it becomes the critical flop of the brand.

>>718686107
On the contrary, focus only brought more jank. You seen the absolute state of IG’s control scheme?

>>718686017
>Wilds is the way it is BECAUSE it's World 2
World is a fun complete game, with a lot of content and DLC that works. If you gotta compare Wilds to World; its like a diet lite, sugarless, onions by product. You only say it's world 2 because it's more open.

>>718685651
This

>>718686107
I'll just wait for P6th where focus mode will most likely not be present.

>>718686159
He's in every single MH thread, he really believes it's the biggest problem this game have, it's not even a problem at all and got easily corrected by just making wounding harder later, they just need to make this change for the rest of the game.

>>718686107
Wilds is the only third person game I can think of with reticle aiming for melee combat, care to explain what’s jank about every other game in the genre?

I don’t give a fuck about the performance, although it does run like shit, since I could get it to look decent and play at 60 FPS. My issue is how utterly casualized it’s become. I’ve never lost interest in an MH game that quickly, ever.

>>718684893
Because Rise wasn't a tentpole title and it had a fraction of the budget of Wilds.

>>718686310
Don't use it then?

>>718686304
>everyone who does not like focus mode is one person
Focus mode was literally ALWAYS the biggest source of discussion prior to the playable beta and after the beta was ALWAYS topic #2 after the performance. You are delusional

>>718686395
Oh, I don’t use it, most people dont, because they choose to not play wilds as a whole. Because the game is broken at a base gameplay design level. Due to focus mode.

>>718670707 (OP)
How is the new Netflix series anyway. Did they turn Dante into a faggot like Alucard?

>>718686396
Thanks for illustrating my post schizo anon.

>>718686024
The only defense of focus mode is
>this series that had tens of millions of sales prior to its introduction was ackshully le janky

>>718685403
>Id still play MHFU if i didnt have to jump through hoops just to play online.
FU looks better than Rise though

>>718686465
Most people don't play it... Because they simply can't run it lol.
Most people are normies with shitty PCs.

>>718670707 (OP)
The game sold 10 millions in like a day. Most games nowadays can't even get past 3 millions. The expectations these companies have are way too insanely high.

>>718670707 (OP)
>>they hope sales will improve after TU3 and TU4, this winter

They borked the very foundations of the game design, how would title updates fix that?

>>718686597
You said this with DD2 which was a lie

>>718684334
Sexo but...what happened to her face?

What does the snoy have to gain by shilling Milds?
>Veterans
>Casuals
Everyone hates it, even worldfags

>>718670707 (OP)
I usually wait for each Monster Hunter's "Complete Edition" since they so love to drip feed content. But man I don't even want to touch Wilds.

>>718686479
The literal first webm in the first beta of the game was displaying focus mode in a TCS with like 200 replies, are you insane

>>718686597
This is such fucking cope dude. The game sustained quite literally millions of active players on launch weekend and near a million in the weeks after launch. Most people COULD run and play the game, even if performance wasn’t great. But the game itself was simply not good enough to sustain those players. It’s way too easy and casual. That simple.

>>718684893
Because Rise recycled all of World's assets and dumbed them down for the fisher price tablet

>>718686553
I don't need to defend anything, literally no one cares about focus besides here.
Everywhere else people complain about the performance and some others about story, I don't care about what your hyperfocus is about. This is the truth.

It was over when they revealed the starting locale to be a bland, grey desert.

>>718686768
>literally no one cares about focus
Well except all those negative Japanese and Chinese reviews being made 4 months after launch

>>718686242
Wilds has way more world elements not present in any other MH than just the map design
>slinger
>mantles
>weapon movesets mostly reverted to world's with no flexibility or customization
>mounting system
>UI
>removal of the village/guild split
>removal of the key/urgent quest progression
>co-op story roadblocks
>seikret is just raider ride 2.0
>"handlers" instead of guild girls

>>718686653
It's still true today lmao
>>718686747
>Sustained millions of players that realized quickly they couldn't run it properly and the numbers fell off a cliff in weeks.
Wow

>>718685820
>>718685967
buy a ps5 if you can't afford a pc that can run it at 1080p

>>718686768
But you do need to defend it. You “like” focus mode because it simplifies the game to a hilarious degree, because you get filtered not just by monster hunter but every single third person action game. Wilds is like the one game a disabled lunatic like you can actually play.

>>718686852
Yeah? Show them

>>718686852
I browse the Chinese side and their main problem is the lack of content and performance, not focus mode. Most of the people there actually like the combat.

>>718677440
An expansion could never save the fundamentals of the game.
Weapon bouncing barely exists, the open world is worthless thanks to seikret, all quests are purely hunting based even though the hunting aspect is gimped, truly unbelievable.

>>718686998
That’s not even close to true

>crapcum says a game is a flop
they have been saying
>its a flop but we made profit
since fucking re5
you retards are underages or what

>>718686959
Show your Steve 8* clear times

Capcom really isn't sending their best

>>718686998
>people who have played the game for 4 months suddenly have a problem with the performance
Focus schizo……

>waaah focus is the main problem
kek man never change you schizos, screen cap this, if they somehow do manage to fix the performance you'll see glowing reviews on steam.

>>718687149
patches can cause that
>happened to me with wow
>happened with poe
>happened with battlefield 2042

>>718687069
Literally why the fuck would I buy wilds? I played the beta and saw it was made for lobotomized retards

>>718686959
It doesn’t simplify it, it gives good players more control.
I’m noticing a lot of the discourse since Rise has been
>the skill floor should be higher
>the skill cap should be lower

>>718687186
>when you can’t argue

This subhuman wilds faggot is going to kill himself

>>718686943
Performance doesn't mean anything when the game constantly crashes. I was actually thinking about buying it on consoles, but I forgot Capcom is too retarded to implement cross progression

>>718686889
No, dude. You’re wrong on this and you know it. 63% of players beat the story according to steam cheevos. 85% of players got at least as far as the Uth Duna fight. That tells us that most people were able to play the game, they just didn’t like it and dropped it because it’s dogshit. If the game was good people would still be playing it, but since it isn’t good, they don’t. That simple. If you can’t wrap your head around that you’re NGMI

>>718687240
Focus has a stacking effect to where it causes the game to be less engaging. Take the simplest example of, you hit the monster in the legs, it toppled, now you’re going to go bonk it in the head. An extremely simply and common gameplay state.

Without focus, you have to
>path to the head* this part is relevant
>line up your hunter to face the head
>time the attack
Without focus it’s
>take quickest path to head
>focus mode pivot and hit the head

*the pathing aspect shows the “stacking” aspect of focus’s bad design. Since you can freely pivot on a dime you can ALWAYS take the shortest and easiest path available. Without focus you would have to take a wider, arcing path to line yourself up with the monster. Making you traverse more ground, which means you’re more likely to run into some other gameplay mechanic, like a small creature, an invader, a player (flinching kind of irrelevant now besides), a ledge, a slope, some other endemic life trap

There’s a plethora of mechanics you might have been FORCED to engage with simply because you were FORCED to take a non-optimal path, because the lack of focus requires you actually face your hunter in the correct position. This is the true reason why wilds fails to maintain players: focus simplifies EVERY aspect of the game state. You don’t even consciously recognize it. You don’t notice you missed a potentially neat interaction because instead of engaging with all the mechanics it’s mostly
>focus on brain off

>>718672118
>What happened?
It looks inferior to Monster Hunter Worlds.

i want to believe the ps5 wilds """bro""" is hardcore shitposting but i know for a fact this board is infected with people like that, and has been for a long time

>>718687240
>it doesn’t simplify it
Yes it does, any potential positioning or timing consideration is solved by lol focus

This is one of the funniest things about Milds to me
The game is so fucking easy that instead of asking if you can beat it, we have faggots like this >>718687069 asking for clear times like some speedrunner tranny

>>718682851
I just bought World + Iceborne on sale for my series X even though I have 1k hours on PS4.
Shame about Clutch claw and Defender armour.

>>718672118
indians

>>718687343
All those people played a 30 hour campaign and 31 hours in they realized they couldn’t run it
>t. wilds jeet

>>718672118
the same thing that happened to dragon's dogma 2

>>718687186
Focus is the main problem. It’s not performance or content. Nightreign launching one single gimmicky hard fight gets more players (often double or triple) wilds adding a bunch of new 9* fights

Why? The actual gameplay is better.

>>718687408
Oh god it’s this retard I’m not getting dragged into this again
Who the fuck keeps this stupid shit copied to paste and waste everyone’s time when it’s not even true

>>718687702
>slopreign
lol

>>718687762
>oh god I’m literally shaking I can’t argue oh man this is like so dumb I can’t argue
Focus on the noose and jump, cuck boy

>>718684895
>then of course you have the single worst Low Rank experience I've ever had

The high rank is far worse. It doesn't even feel like high rank in either stakes nor gameplay.

>>718670707 (OP)
>>they learnt their lesson moving forward

>>718687332
If you tried to reinstall have you manually nuked your Mild install folder?
do you have a 16gb vram card? SSD?
>>718687448
>desert area vs forest
classic dishonest mild hater

>>718687826
>more than double wilds current players
lol

an official GU port would print them money

>>718687826
it's slop, but it mogged your jeet game so lmao

>release game with minimal content
>charge $70
>sales flatline after the inital launch

Are people finally realising capcom are back to being crapcom? Three games in a row with SF6, DD2 and Wilds all releasing with fuck all content while charging premium pricing. The enemy variety in DD2 was espeically such a bad joke. Not sure what "lesons" they think they've learned, but if its not giving games enough content to match the price then they're not getting my money. Simple as.

>>718687931
>>718687985
brown + seething

>>718678324
A lot of recent games have all been the "fastest selling" title in their franchise at launch before immediately dropping off like a rock in both sales and reception. Atelier Yumia comes to mind for the Atelier franchise.

>>718687826
Oh I’m sorry focus cuck you can’t play any third person game without your mobile phone controls

>>718687895
>desert area vs forest
>classic dishonest mild hater
MHW image is from the desert stage you ignorant fool.

The problem with wilds is the shit ass performance and the fact there are few monsters.
Increase performance somehow, idk drop denuvo, and trickle some mons as they are doing and then they could turn that shit around.

>>718670707 (OP)
Too many brown NPCs
Story was shit
Gameplay is nice but launch was ass. The story is piss easy but the latest updates made endgame more fun and difficult.
Artian weapons were mistake though. Should have been a system that upgrades real monster weapon trees like augments.

>>718688097
>Reshade
yawn

>>718680528
Lol faggot. This sort of crap is what makes it so lame now a days

>>718686017
stop screeching tendie

>>718686395
>don’t use the main new combat mechanic
Kind of explains why the playerbase dropped so fast huh

>>718687830
I talked to you in another thread, all you did was keep linking the same talking point no matter what
Focus mode doesn’t let you turn faster than your character can naturally turn, you don’t have to run some wide circle to the monster’s head in the old games if it falls unless you are stuck in its limbs (focus mode doesn’t let you phase through limbs)
You can’t argue with somebody who’s just going to bullshit and pretend MH has tank controls pre focus

>>718688017
The lesson damage control is meant for shareholders, not players. What was meant for players was that non-announcement that they're looking into performance eventually, repeating the DD2 script. It'll flatline again because hardware isn't improving.

>>718682008
Learn to read. A lot of those are faggots thinking their special by trying and failing to write in kana

>>718688114
See
>>718687343
It’s not performance, the game is just shit

>mfw the game still runs like shit while looking barely better than World
I just don't get it.

>>718686618
World sold a fuckton after release just because of word of mouth.
Capcom thought they can release a garbage game, get all the hype sales AND get all the after release sales.
It doesn't work like that, fuckers.

You have one last chance with G-Rank

>>718688017
Yeah it’s pretty obvious they’re in the crapcom arc again

>>718688060
weird that no one is talking about it on /v/ despite le heckin steamcharts. must be botted.

>>718688215
>oh my god I can’t argue I already tried arguing like that’s why I can’t argue because I can’t argue
Maybe you should try suicide?

>>718687948
>an official GU port
Just give me GU2 minus the Milds slop

>>718688078
They just had to allow upskirts or you know give her shorts if you had to follow gay ethics requirements

>>718688215
You do in fact have to position your hunter so they actually have to face the monster in every other game besides wilds, where focus just lets you pivot on the slot

>>718678807
Nah bro. Mario kart world is dogshit because it hasn't out sold Mario kart 8! How pathetic is that

>>718688215
I remember that thread you got ass raped

>>718688367
>weird that no one is talking about it on /v/
Well yeah, unlike Mildsjeets (threads made only to talk about the sorry state of the game), they're actually playing the game

>>718684924
You talked about the STORY and the PERFORMANCE which are handled by two separate departments.
Moron

>>718687838
neither of these things are mutually exclusive
low rank is generally a pre-game tutorial that you breeze through unless it's your very first game; having to drag through it is extreme tedium

high rank simply being unfinished is definitely egregious and the fact that we now have a trifecta of unholy grinding (charms, decos and artian weapons) it's only going to get worse; I can't wait for them to just roll qurio crafting into the game as well

>>718688495
Focus mode changes nothing in the instance he’s talking about because focus mode doesn’t let you turn faster than you can rotate your character normally

>>718688719
There’s not a lot of them though lmao you guys lose to fallout 76 unless you have an update

just give me 4U and 3U on steam

>>718688719
that's cope, rajesh

>>718688823
That’s incorrect, he was right. Focus means the path you take can always be the simplest one, when you remove the positional requirement it simplifies how you get to where you want to be. You never need to work your hunter into facing the right direction because you can always spin with focus

>>718670707 (OP)
Wildsaars... we lost

>>718688849
Ahem.
FUCK WYSTONES, THEY ARE NOT A GOOD MECHANIC, ESPECIALLY THE ONE YOU HAD TO USE SO YOUR WEAPON WOULDN'T BOUNCE OFF THE MONSTER

>>718688823
Are you retarded? Focus lets you move mid swing

>>718689127
you seethe about wilds 24/7 because you are a third worlder

>>718688958
Are you trying to claim the game won’t let your character turn to face a new direction in the old games?

>>718689215
Wilds peaks in third world time zones

>>718689127
Crapcum/MH fanboys totally exposed themselves with this. Literally shoveling shit into their mouths with a smile on their face. The game went from setting new player records to completely dead in the span of a few months and they think it’s the players fault and not the shit game

>>718689127
now add a smug worldsperm shitting his pants to the background

>>718689262
Are you schizophrenic, genuinely

>>718670707 (OP)
Wasn't this already confirmed? Or this is yet another official statement about it?

>>718689127
kek

>>718689286
This isn’t really true, MH fanboys largely dump on the game. The game gets really, really, really poor concurrent numbers outside of China prime time. It’s basically dead in the west at the moment.

>>718689393
OP is reposting old news for his hourly seethe thread

>>718679070
The wounds that make monsters stumble 1/2 of the fight time and complete loss of "ritual"(coming from hunt, gathering quests, food before going out) and dividing skills on offensive and defensive which really limits builds is what killed it form me.
I know they fixed a few things like "ritual" part a bit but I can't even bring myself to launch it again after this 60 hours I played it, despite the fact that it runs decent on my machine

>>718676947
They wanted Wilds to be able to carry them pretty much alone for several fiscal years.

>>718688849
Never. It has that fringe ideology that might kill the new capcom audience. Male/Female.

>wtf we spit out a horrible game and it didn't break world records?
I know it's tough because pokemon and final fantasy can do it, but unprincipled violent kikery should be met with failure.

>>718689448
I straight up got dm’d death threats for criticizing the dogshit game on launch.

Risecels make these threads btw

>>718689606
>Le death threats
Go back to bluesky you faggot

>>718689606
Probably wild sissies projecting their suicidal thoughts

>>718670707 (OP)
In a post fortnite world, all releases are failures. The shareholders that set those "sales expectations" know nothing about vidya, but see that fortnite has been generating billions of dollars since 2017, so why cant monster hunter?

>>718689127
KEK, it do be like that

>>718670707 (OP)
People learned their lesson with Dragons Dogma 2. With the poor state it released in and how quick they abandoned it, of course it was gonna have an effect on the sales of the next MH. Doubly so when the performance seemed to be having the same exact issues

>>718689739
Pretty bad example because Elden ring fortnite edition sold only a few mil but is considered a massive success because it was made in one year using a bunch of reused slop

>>718688060
>leave monster hunter to me

>>718689673
The point im making is that there are a contingent of extreme Capcom/MH fanboys that will religiously defend anything Capcom does with MH

>>718689996
Capcom fans have always been weird ones, no the mega man spin offs are not missed, no god hand is not a hidden gem, no breath of fire is not a classic jrpg, no Darkstalkers is not good

>>718689215
third worlders worked on wilds, sandeep

Capcom thought MH had reached "Pokemon status" where the fanbase will buy MH despite how half assed is. After Pokemon SV became the worst rated pokemon game ever and despite that sold millions of millions for years, Capcom thought they could also get that "blessing".

FROM fans seem really insecure

I bet lots of people are like me and not buying until the Iceborne or whatever the fuck comes out.

>>718690216
>Capcom thought MH had reached "Pokemon status" where the fanbase will buy MH despite how half assed is.
It did and it has as far back as 3DS. Just so happens the industry is undergoing a AAA crash and they went overkill with the performance sabotage after getting away with it on World. Don't mistake their sheer greed with the actual reception, nothing explains a game of this quality being successful at any point but brand loyalty.

>>718684720
A 1060 could run world and look better than wilds on the PS5

>>718672118
It stops being fun after 100h which is terrible for Monhan, even if it's just the basegame. Optimization is also shit - my 4070 Ti Sloppa/7800x3d can't maintain 144fps@2k without framegen. Can't even begin to imagine how Indonesians feel, I'd feel fucking terrible knowing I produced 250 monke torture videos to buy a 3060 and it can't even run Milds.

>>718690489
That has never stopped anyone before

>>718686472
No but they made Lady manly as in, it took me a while to understand that she was not a dude.

>>718670707 (OP)
Now go back on Dragon's Dogma 2, an actual good game, you fucking retards.

>>718686472
It makes DmC look respectful of the franchise

>>718690651
This. All the sales btw were from launch. The MH content creators hyped it, reviewers hyped it, MH fanboys were delirious with their praise for the game and were all over social media, any dissenting voice was shouted down and told LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS. When the honeymoon period ended and everyone realized it was dogshit, the damage had already been done and it crossed the 10 million copy threshold

>>718671562
I actually had a decent time with it but the way they handled the game was weird.

>>718691949
Capcom’s shilling backfired. Because everyone is so embarrassed at how much they were praising it on launch now nobody brings it up at all. Not even negatively. It has ZERO word of mouth, like it doesn’t even exist.

>>718692154
DD2 rings any bell?

>>718687948
No one played rise on steam. GU will br empty if ported. Meanwhile I still get a ton of rooms on switch online

I hope Capcom learned that, if you are gonna use a "plot important character that accompanies you all the time" it should be a waifu and not an annoying little kid.

>>718693369
>it should be a waifu and not an annoying little kid.
they didn't learned with re2
they didn't learned it with re4
they will never learn it anon

>>718692605
who can forget that game? its such a blast bro.

>>718670867
It can’t be that much of a pedophile playground if Asia/Pacific isn’t at the top with a huge lead.

>>718693506
They actually ruined Ashley in the RE4 remake, she went from a little annoying but cute girl into a complete bitch girlboss.

>>718693908
i didn't like her in the original. demakes are worse anyway in everything but graphics

>>718693908
Also, fun fact: loads of actual girls HATE the new Ashley. If they made her to be "less offensive for women" well now actual women HATE her.

>>718693369
Even then I think it could've been salvaged if his naivete and lack of alignment with the hunters was leaned into more. As it stands he's just kind of a bag of plot hooks that snags on passing scenery.

>>718689120
No, they added that to some weapons like Lance and SnS but it's independent of Focus mode, and ironically enough it's forced enough that Focus mode actually helps to stay in place while hitting the monster by shuffling back and forth during the forced steps. The only thing that Focus mode does that you couldn't do in previous games is to change direction while charging an attack like the GS's TCS, more then the small cone you could before. What Focus mode does do is to make attack direction dependent on camera facing instead of last moved direction, which while significantly different from previous MH, is not game breaking by itself to allow you to keep an eye on the monster and not have to dick with taking a microstep towards the part you want to swing at before pressing the attack button when repositioning yourself.

>>718694119
He feels like he was written for MHS and even so he would have been annoying, Ena would have bitchslapped him if he talked shit to the Rider, hell, I am sure Nata would have talked shit of your ingame grandpa Red which would made Ena snap.

>>718694297
I still need to play Stories, I have both of them on Steam and they look neat. I think it's more of what I want out of an IP with monsters than the standard hunting/collecting/battling. Pokemon Ranger 4 never ever

>718689127
>There's multiple daily threads seething about milds
>posting this unironically

>>718693983
Even the graphics are debatable

>>718672118
no content pretty much

>>718671562
exoprimal was super fun they just needed to make the game f2p

>>718695756
i would debate the art direction. but not the graphics

Portable 6th will save this turd of a generation.

>>718687948
They need to free 4U from the 3DS mines first.

>>718697040
lol enjoy your 20fps

>>718679070
Eh, All the new tempereds are significantly harder to wound now. I'm sure it will be next to impossible to do it to Omega given it's a fucking robot. Hopefully that's just the default form now on.

>>718696752
Why not the graphics? Graphicsmaxxing only contributes to longer dev time and larger cost, both to them and consumers with how much more space they take up and what specifications they end up requiring. And then they can end up looking worse thanks to the art direction despite being 'technically' superior and that's even if they actually are.

>>718697420
The portable team is actually smart, unlike the mainline team. I have faith.

>>718677440
Since the areas are loosely sown together they can't really just add a new areas and ask iu to forget the old one. They have this bulky anchor around their neck they can't get rid of. Even if the expansion doesn't shove story down our throats they can't move away from the original world space. It was an extremely poor design choice on Capcom's part.

>>718687448
It's crazy how it both has MUCH higher system requirements AND loose visually much worse. That shouldn't be a possible combination yet here we are

>>718698384
No? The expansion will probably just be an island to explain why you can’t just walk there or a newly discovered underground area or something you are so uncreative it’s extremely easy to get around

>>718698797
Sky island. Now with jetpack combat.

>>718671562
That game felt like something that started as a singleplayer concept then transitioned into competitive multiplayer slop

>>718687408
its true

>>718699664
Nobody is going to engage with your pastaslop

>>718677440
Yes.
If they could salvage the absolute abortion that was Rise with something like Sunbreak they can definitely do it again with Wilds.

>>718684893
Because it wasn’t performing in the first place
that shit was stuck on a tablet for babies and by the time it came out everywhere else people were already waiting for Wilds

>>718696752
It's the way I see it as well. Graphics/computer-intensive? Yeah, but it looks so ugly or even same-y at times.

>>718672118

what this guy >>718672760 said
there's a lot of veterans who complain about "casualization" aka shit like you shouldn't be able to walk while drinking a potion.
but i refunded it because it ran like crap. and if you skim steam reviews they all say the same

>>718670707 (OP)
Why can't companies just be happy with making enough money to run their business for like 20 years off of 1 game? Then again this is a company that thinks following green eyerape to fill a meter, gluing 6 mismatching zones together then filling a meter, and storing LR/HR/MR content in 20 different places is totally fine for a AAA company. I'll never forget being bitched at by fanboys in threads for pointing out that it takes like a dozen menus to join a friend. Hell, not being able to progress with friends until you watch a cutscene alone is totally unforgivable. All they had to do was iterate on World zone content. Introduce immersive trade features and turn the next big MH into the equivalent of GTA RP with lots of interactions to engage in they would have made a true billion dollar game. Engine troubles at this stage reflects serious leadership issues the guys in charge are making many horrible decisions. It's clear they don't understand what's appealing about their own titles.

>>718681156
6090 in 3 year won't get more than double the frames of 5090. the 5-series is only about a 10% bump over the 3-series.

at that rate, it would take over a decade

World AND Wilds both suck however.
If only people shat on World the same way they shit on Wilds instead of giving World a free pass for also having a forced story with pushover monsters, no content in favor of FOMO festivals, incredibly retarded menus to do anything, and a bad PC port that only got acceptable because the hardware got good enough to brute force it.
So what if the World PC port wasn't as embarrassingly bad, it was still bad in addition to those reasons present in both Wilds and World, but retards ate it up anyways. Wilds could run perfectly and it'd still be a cinematic sony movie game that doesn't play like Monster Hunter. Something that could also be said of World. If you're going to shit on Wilds you better also shit on World.

>>718672760
Story campaign is way too long.