Thread 718674890

>Hollow Knight had been massive, and their plan at the outset was to build a smaller world for Silksong. To ensure that the game felt just as deep, they'd implement an elaborate quest system that would offer the player reasons to backtrack and revisit old locations. In contrast to Hollow Knight, which had a single town full of shops and characters to meet, there would also be multiple towns, each serving as a hub for quests.
>"Even at that point we were recognizing that it was going to become another giant thing to rival the scale of Hollow Knight or probably exceed it," Gibson said. "And then because of how we work, obviously the world ended up being just as big or bigger. And the quest system existed. And the multiple towns existed. Suddenly you end up six, seven years later."
>it all came down to their development style, which may have been too much fun. Gibson and Pellen — who were joined by programmer Jack Vine, composer Chris Larkin and a few contractors who helped with programming and testing — started off by designing the core gameplay for Hornet, the game's slick protagonist. From there, it was easy to implement and test out new ideas, even as the game grew bigger.
TLDR: They had too much fun making the game that 7 years went by in a blink

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-21/why-silksong-team-cherry-s-sequel-to-hollow-knight-took-so-long-to-make
https://archive.ph/wip/pGucD

feature creep from a team of perfectionists

so the game is going to be a bloated mess with half-baked ideas.

>drop next to nothing for 6 years
>btw it's releasing in 2 weeks

being a perfectionist isn't an excuse to go radio silent for years and years. If you're constantly making art you could at least share a few screenshots every 6 months.

Slick hornet

>>718675202
regular devlogs would, ironically, have slowed down development even more

>>718675202
>During the development of Hollow Knight, Gibson and Pellen frequently posted game updates and talked to players. At the end of 2019, Team Cherry posted one more update about Silksong, then went silent — much to fans' dismay.
>"We felt like continued updates were just going to sour people on the whole thing," Gibson said. "Because all we could really say is, 'We're still working on it.'"

They thought that giving updates would spoil the game.

>>718675274
fuck off that's such bullshit

>>718675202
wrong
never show incomplete game to people
you might create an unintentionally weak impression with incomplete product or generate disappointment when something changes or gets cut and people already imagined it happening
NEVER EVER show early fucking builds

A game made for less than 500k ended up earning $30 million. Yea, I'm sure the developers had a lot of fun in the past 7 years.

Was waiting for this shitty interview. Thought It would have been a video, its honestly better that its just an article

>>718675336
they've now set up unachievable expectations by not showing anything and being silent for years. People who backed the kickstarter are at least owed screenshots.

> Gibson and Pellen say they’re happy that the game is finally coming out — and even happier that they will get to keep working on it, which they still find enjoyable even after seven years. They haven’t burned out or shown any desire to take a break. Instead, they’re already making big plans to add extra content to Silksong in the months and years to come.
I hope /v/ is prepared for more silkposting

Also, fucking stupid shitty paywall. I forgot how to bypass that shit, anybody got the free link?

>>718675585
I literally put it in the archive link just right below that bypasses the paywall

>>718675202
you sound like a kike executive demanding deadlines every fiscal quarter.
LET DEVS C O O K

When's the OST getting out? I liked Lace and Bonebottom, I liked Hollowknight's OST, I want more.

>>718675670
What? I dont see what youre talking about, maybe cuz Im on my phone.

>>718675202
This. No excuses to not say anything

>>718674890 (OP)
>They had too much fun making the game that 7 years went by in a blink
surely...

>>718675196
would have been better to just shadowdrop it for hype and impulse buying at this point
i feel the exact same way with poe 2
why can't i just LOG IN and play

>>718674890 (OP)
does anyone give a shit or is it just a meme so you can feel like you are connected to another human being in some abstract way

>>718675937
7 YEARS YOU RETARD 7 FUCKING YEARS

>>718675370
It's not a lot. $30 mil divided by 7 is about $4.3 mil a year. If the company employed 20 people full time, that's $200k per person just on salary alone if they had no other expenses except salary, which of course the company would have other overhead costs. But they're a team of like 5 people and they operate out of Australia. It's not a replicable structure.

>>718675202
t. GRRM

>>718674890 (OP)
>They had too much fun making the game that 7 years went by in a blink
It's obvious at this point it can't surpass hk.

>“It’s nice that people are passionate about the game, and that they’ve obviously formed their own strange or very exciting communities around it,” Gibson said.

>“Feels like we’re going to ruin their fun by releasing the game,” Pellen said.

yeah these guys are assholes

>>718675980
the internet has become a wasteland of AI slop and bots, i'd want to disappear from any online bullshit too if i were them

>>718676038
They were 3. They had 50k from ks. And barely 100k each. They are set for life. Hk will surge in numbers after as release, too.

>>718676038
Youre retarded, the game made more than 30 mil, and nobody is dividing it between 7 people anyway retard.

>>718674890 (OP)
>started off by designing the core gameplay for Hornet, the game's slick protagonist. From there, it was easy to implement and test out new ideas, even as the game grew bigger.
I told agdg to do this and they flamed me. Now everyone will do it because [popular company] said it

>>718675946
>would have been better to just shadowdrop it for hype and impulse buying at this point
they probably would have if not for the kickstarter rewards, which they have to send out a survey for in advance

>>718676038
The first game cost them under 500k and that's a high estimate. HK's initial kickstarter only earned them 50k.

>>718675202
Not really. If I was swimming with an infinite money machine backing me I'd also not say shit to anyone. Interacting with fans is the most toxic shit imaginable.

>>718676369
Divided by 7 years you illiterate fuck.

>>718674890 (OP)
Cunts mad about 7 years for a game that looks like it was made in 10 minutes on an 100 pound budget using flash lmaoooo.

State of you cunts.

>>718676038
Hk sold way more than 4 million copies. Easily 10 million if not 15 million on switch alone. 7 million or more on steam and probably 3 million on ps4 and xbox. 20 million sales minimum. Probably 30 million maximum?

>>718675202
Honestly, staying silent on it was probably smart since it increased the hype. People were always waiting for a Silksong announcement even in events where it clearly wasn't going to appear.

>"It took a long time because developing is just so gosh darn fun teehee :3"
I'm pirating this game.

>>718676283
The rich always are.

>>718676504
They confirmed in the article that it sold 15 million copies

>>718676456
I dont know why you think that makes any difference like youre not still fucking retarded with no conception of money.

Are you actually subhuman? You should kill yourself for dare speaking to me, thinking that anybody is using $4.3 mil a year while releasing ONE indie game, still being worked on largely by 3 people.

Fucking retard.

>"What is Jira?"
>"Is it a software?"

God damn aussies

>>718676624
15 million for a game that looks like it was made in flash in a few days.

What the actual fuck.

Hollow Knight is overrated. Looks dull as fuck.

>>718676637
Shut the fuck up, bugfag. Actually learn to read instead of sperging out over a game you're going to pirate anyway because you're a poor brown shitstain.

>>718675965
quiet down unc

>>718675202
The radio silence is a goddamn blessing for them. People went mad over it; it became a self-perpetuating hype engine. It's a game developer's dream to get this much hype without huge marketing cost.

Kill Team Cherry. Behead Team Cherry. Curbstomp Team Cherry into the ground. Drown Team Cherry. Execute...

>>718675202
Retard

>>718675202
If it comes out and makes incredible money this could unironically trun the tide in the industry. There will be at least a couple MBAs whonrealize the formula for success is a small, competent, passionate team, no marketing budget, and letting devs make the product exceptional. If team cherry releases budget info and the ROI btfos 100M-400M projects that get cancelled, a money-person WILL notice.

>wake up
>another beautiful morning sunrise in Adelaide, Australia
>take morning coffee, lovingly paid for by hollow knight sales
>drive to work
>notice some strange messages outside the office
>"WHERE'S THE UPDATES"
>"RELEASE DATE OR YOUR FAMILIES ARE DEAD"
>weird, wonder what product they're talking about
>must be the wrong building
>ignore it and enter inside
>close twitter as per usual
>begin another fun day of coding the new bug lesbian gibson designed
>just a day in the life of Team Cherry!

>>718676774
>Gibson and Pellen tuned it all out, rarely going online. They say they never read comments on YouTube or Reddit, although occasionally friends or family would send them some of the funniest ones.

Based aussies just working on the game and not going online for 7 years.

>>718675980
Get a life, loser

>>718676774
well now they have to prove that the 7 years of development time were worth it. Seems like a harder hill to climb than just being up front about development. At least to the backers.

>>718674890 (OP)
Lol this entire interview is such gaslighting bullshit, it's super obvious that they ran into massive issues during development and were too stubborn to admit it. If they were saying was even remotely true, there's no way that a game that took 7 fucking years of development looks virtually unchanged from the stuff they showed in 2019.

>>718676745
kek, i accept your concession

>preorders still not up
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS

>>718676596
I'm buying it twice

>>718674890 (OP)
Hope it's good enough and not just another darkest dungeon 2, salt and sanctuary "2" and blasphemous 2 disaster.

where are all those nigger who shat on totk for being an asset flip and now hype this shit?

Do we have a release date now?

>>718677067
It makes sense though
>oh cool I made it so that if you hit this thing with your weapon a funny thing happens
>what if we went back and added this everywhere
>lets do it
>repeat for every new feature they add
>7 years go by

>>718677164
2 MORE WEEKS
literally

>>718677152
>blasphemous 2
What's wrong with it?

>>718676879
>a money-person WILL notice.
sad that this is the type of subhuman we need to affect any "change" in the world.

>>718677067
What massive issue could there be, it's a 2D game

>>718676918
Kek, people unironically seethe at this lifestyle

>>718675370
>How a team of two used no-code in 2011 to create one the biggest
This would be considered a joke in a sane world

>>718677162
Find a single shared asset with the original Hollow Knight.

>literally asked for money to make the game and have silk song be a stretch goal
>yeah m8 money isn't even an issue lmao we just love making the heckin game! uh what? oh we aren't giving updates because they would just sour people. Any year now!
assholes

Based

>>718677067
everything i dont like or accept is gaslighting because reality is decided by me
so sad how shit psychology is. i wish i never broke the illusion that it gave deep insights into the elusive human mind at the age of 15.

>>718677121
>pre order a digital game
lol retard sub human

>>718675202
For a person like you, a cuck, is never enough.
>a few screenshots every 6 months.
>the cuck: they are just showing some screenshots every like what? since months? it's been years already... yeah, they are not doing anything, I can photoshop a screenshot like that easily, they totally spent the entire budget on trips and stupid things, typical of indies.

>>718677241
hornet
check mate

>>718677067
>>718677207
They probably didn't have specific "issues" but chances are their general process was inefficient so things took a lot longer than they could have.
But according to the interview, their process was really fun, so it makes sense they wouldn't have changed it for something faster (but more boring).

>>718677403
>preordering physical le good tho
retard sub human

>>718677417
I'm almost certain that every frame of her sprite is redrawn.

>>718677415
you're creating imaginary scenarios in your head. Radio silence for years for a kickstarter backed game isn't right.

>>718675202
>Dev doesn't release any update
>Game takes 6 years to make
>Dev releases updates
>Game still takes 6 years to make
But they should have released update because uuuuuh I'm addicted to news o algo

>>718677335
>rich AND a BREEDER
Probably a Christian as well.

>>718674890 (OP)
>7 years for DLC
Now where have I heard that one before...

>>718677335
Live like a dream ngl.

>>718677024
they absolutely do not have to prove that, the hype is so big that at this point they will make bank just off day one sales regardless of how good the game actually is

>>718677335
>release overhyped shitslop
>get rich forever and win life
it's that easy huh

>>718677570
new map unlike totk

>>718677643
If it's that easy why haven't (you) done it?

>>718677335
This is unironically the type of life I strive for. Being rich, and only moderately upgrading my situation to get out of my parents house and have a one bedroom apartment or something. I'd spend my excess money on wildlife conservation efforts and saving my deer friends then. This shit world does not deserve anything else. Which is unfortunate because there are people that should not have to live like garbage. But the world, and its social structure, allows that. Some people shouldnt even be allowed to have kids, and until that is harshly enforced society wide. Or I guess, if somebody wants to be even more retarded, we learn how to better steal away kids from bad parents and have a much better child services infrastructure, then it will remain shit otherwise.

>we're le perfectionists!
this game better give me a blowjob after waiting for it for this long

>>718674890 (OP)
>Too busy counting money to come into the office one day a week to design an enemy

>>718677570
>game was a tech demo that barely ran on the two consoles it was made for
vs
>newgrounds flash game with silly bug people

>>718677769
>on wildlife conservation efforts and saving my deer friends then.

>>718677335
>kids
Okay so now we know why it took 7 years.

>>718677224
It's an unfortunate necessity. Understanding how boring stuff like bonds work is the leetcode of finance. Anybodyy can throw money around and make speculative trades/investments (look at /biz/).

The real problem is that people with good ideas think studying money is boring OR if they have a 'good-but-impossible' idea they dismiss financial info that shows they're wrong instead of trying to adjust their ideas. So we wind up with our current world where most of the people who bother to understand money are the boring ones with nothing else to guide their souls.

Like some artist says "what if we could all have food for free and spend all our time making art?" Then they reject financial theory when it makes their dream look impossible and achieve very little and blame "capitalism". But they unknowingly handed the reigns to people who just want to see 'line go up' without caring about what the line measures.

>>718675202
yeah that excuse was bullshit and the truth is that they're probably just cavemen devs that didn't bother giving updates

>>718677769
>excess money on wildlife conservation efforts and saving my deer friends then
Google CAIA, buy the book and read the section about timber/land valuation. You cannot succeed at conservation without understanding that which your opponents do.

>>718677894
whats wrong with that retard?

>>718675370
>said in the interview they sold 15 million copies
>even at the lowest steam sale price of $6USD and gaben's cut thats $63m
>each member of the dev team could walk home with so much money they could invest it all and the dividends alone would let them live better than 99.9% of Australians for life
No wonder they've been taking their time, they've got literally nothing to worry about.

>>718678153
You're not fucking the deer, are you?

>>718677769
I've never been hunting but your post is so faggy that it makes me want to go, just so I can bag some of your "deer friends".

>>718678183
KICKSTARTER
BACKED
VIDEO GAME

>>718678354
and they delivered more than enough

>>718678354
Seems what they did has actually worked out very well for them and a bunch of children screaming that they didn't see 60% of the game before it was actually out are just retarded babies. Who knew?

i want to say "extremely based" but cubeworld burned me to where i'm still very skeptic about literally every game, so we'll see
good for them though, teasehype niggers deserve the chair

>>718678319
If I was rich, I'd hire assasins to kill people like you, who revel in their capacity to kill life.

>>718677378
Motherfucker these are the same faggots that tried to claim with a straight face that the weren't inspired by Dark Souls and never played it. Taking what these kikes say at face value is the height of stupidity especially if you are an actual software developer yourself in which case you will roll your eyes at them saying "lol whats jira, never heard of it" and not being aware of basic software development practices.

They definitely had massive problems that they ran into but for whatever reason refuse to admit it.

>>718678460
the game hasn't even come out yet. You don't even know if this amount of time will result in a better game than Hollow Knight.

And here I am, not even knowing what the fuck this game is. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, not being involved in this circus.

>>718674890 (OP)
The hype for Silksong seems so fake. How did this okay-ish metroidvania with le epic souls mechanics do so well? It’s such an obnoxious and oversaturated genre. Hollow Knight doesn’t do anything unique or interesting either. I’m guessing it’s one of those instances where the ‘fandom’ didn’t actually play the game, they just like the fan art and watched a few video essays about it. Kind of like the post-ironic performative Morrowind worship coming from zoomers that didn’t even know it existed until the Dagoth Ur AI memes came out, or P5 fans

>>718678271
they are always fucking the deer

>>718678710
Here's the attention you seek

>>718678684
>NO ONE IS HOYPED THOUGH YOU SEE NOE ONE IS GONNA BUY THE GAME BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHOW SCREENSHOTS

>>718678724
Are these bots? Why are there so many of these types of retards that clearly dont understand something or have the capacity to, but yet want to talk about how much they dont understand it? The fuck?

>>718675202
HK fans are annoying autistic zoomers, you'd do the same thing if you were Team Cherry

>>718676702
>It's not FAIR! This game doesn't deserve to have made money!
loooool

>>718678791
My precious deer friend. I would never hurt or harm them in anyway. Dont even put the F word and Deer in the same sentence ever again.

>>718678861
>Are these bots?
Worse. They're /v/tards!

>>718678861
The game was fine, maybe a 7/10, played it like a decade ago. It does absolutely nothing special or interesting, just another le epic souls metroidvania with le deep lore and a fallen kingdom :0

>>718674890 (OP)
>Jason Schrier
Can this fucker just be ousted as the sex pest he is already? He should have been fired years ago and instead he keeps sticking his nose firsthand in every major news with people respecting him.

>>718679059
This. I still don’t get what people thought was so great about it. I think for a lot of Gen Z, it was their first Metroidvania game and it has an appealing art style so they latched on to it

>>718678861
>>718678861
It's /v/. The same people who go into threads about video games and say "I've never heard of this popular game, the hype seems fake it must be shills"

>>718674890 (OP)
>whoa it has been 7 years already? sorry, didn't even notice haha

>>718677518
>creating imaginary scenarios in your head
>complains about devs making the game instead of wasting time on social media while making fake
press releases
what's next? they didn't invest enough in the always needed marketing?

>>718675263
>"attaching a screenshot to a paragraph every 6 months is so much work that it would take extra years to finish!"

what the fuck are you talking about?

>>718675202
t.dopamine receptor fried zoom zoom

>>718675202
I would agree if this was any other fanbase. Indie games are permeated with the most annoying faggots on Earth and I wouldn't want to interact with them any more than I need to either if I was them.

nice lies, a whole wall of green bullshit
they took this long because they had no financial incentive to not drag it out as long as possible, they were still getting sales and were still getting hype, so why launch it?

>>718675370
Hollow knight has sold 15 million copies, not 4

>>718679249
>intentionally misquoting
I AM SILLY!

>>718674890 (OP)
This is a little worrying, they're basically just saying that they fell victim to feature creep and kept adding more and more things. Early reviews from the demo are glowing though so maybe there isn't much to be concerned about.

>You don't understand I gotta see new screenshots every 2-3 months to keep on the hype train!
>How could they fail us like this? They had a kickstarter! THEY SHOULD BE DOING THE HYPE TRAIN
>No it doesn't matter that the game is still anticipated and is the most wishlisted game on steam. Where is my HYPE

>>718675202
>BRUH IF YOU'RE NOT POSTING ANYTHING, YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY ALIVE ONG
kys social media addict

>>718675202
Funny how /v/ will get pissy about silk song but fight tooth and claw to defend GTA for this same exact bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofUi9DR9sc4

Woah, what a trailer. This studio is working so hard in this game #hype

>>718677570
10 to 1 faggot

>>718679507
>>718679520
these games weren't funded by kickstarter backers

Why are people so desperate to attach drama and conflict into these devs?
It's like no one can accept that these aussie cunts were just two happy lads doing their thing and having fun doing it.

>>718675202

shut the fuck up dude, what the fuck makes you this entitled

>>718674890 (OP)
So it's a worse version of La Mulana 2?

>>718679597
>I DESERVE MY HYPE TRAIN BECAUSE
>BECAUSE
>BECAUSE I VOLUNTARILY GAVE THE DEVS $15 OVER A DECADE AGO AND DESPITE ME NOT HAVING TO DO THAT THEY OWE.ME.A.HOYPE.TRAIN

>>718679692
Yes. Literally. I deserve an update because I helped fund their video game.

>>718679616

evryone is becoming more and more miserable while these two millionaires are having fun

>>718679765
You just got one
hope this helps
:)

>recognize first game is bloated as fuck
>have absolutely zero discipline to not just bloat the second game the exact same way

>>718677214
nta but the bosses were really shit.

How much is Silksong going to retail for?
$50?

>>718679906
$35

>>718679906
bet it'll be $20, hollow knight was cheap too.

>>718679814
Short games are just worse overall, as a general rule. You need to spend time to truly become attatched to something, for it to truly become memorable. Have you ever considered that maybe people like it so much precisely because it's not bite sized like other metroidvanias?

>>718679814
Base game of HK was not bloated at all.
It was big but enjoyable to explore, interesting world that was very interconnected.
The post-launch content did add more stuff but the pantheon boss rush is not an essential part of the game (despite how much speedrunner autists focus on it). Only necessary thing they added IMO was the extra stag station in the bottom right because the backtrack was too long.
Bloat is SotN having a second half where you explore the same map but it's upside down and full of recycled old Castlevania sprites. And yet that game is widely considered a masterpiece for other reasons.

>>718674890 (OP)
>it all came down to their development style, which may have been too much fun. Gibson and Pellen — who were joined by programmer Jack Vine
is this a tranny?

>>718677015
shes the accountant

It's extremely irresponsible to deliberately prolong development to fuck off and jerk around, while also recieving money for the sake of improving productivity of the next thing. They deliberately didn't hire anyone and refused to hire anyone and intentionally dragged out development in order to *not* deliver on time because "muh vibes" Literally all they had to do is not announce anything and shadow drop years later.

>>718677769
Based and naturepilled

>>718679597
>please spend my kickstarter money on a community manager!

>>718674890 (OP)
scope creep. a tale as old as time.

>>718679906
My guess is $30 to account for inflation and the larger size.
It would be super ballsy for them to keep the price at $15 though.

Clearly because the modern world encourages laziness and artists are not immune to this.

>claim project wasn't mismanaged
>missed deadline by 2 years
they're lying to save face because and they clearly don't have a pr manager

>>718680091
looks like hes gay at least

>>718674890 (OP)
I'm trans I'm trans I'm transI'mtransI'mtraaaans
I just
cut off
my dick with a chainsaaaaaaaw

I'm a real woman now!

This game did nothing special or unique. It’s literally just another generic Metroidvania Souls-like but with slightly better visuals than the average Metroidvania Souls-like. You lose your souls when you die and have an opportunity to get it back if you return to where you died, you play in a le mysterious and le dark fallen kingdom with le deep LORE about a CURSE that is eating away at the land. You meet NPCs on the verge of insanity that give you little pieces of obscure le lore dialogue. You jump on platforms, engage in some bog simple combat, find new equipment that expands your movement, all typical for the Metroidvania Souls-like genre.

Where this game struck gold is having a modern animation/cartoony look that appealed to gen z. In addition, for most of Gen z, this was their first exposure to Metroidvanias so it truly blew their minds. They had never seen a game like this + most of them never played a Souls or Souls-like until Elden Ring released 5 years later + a relatable, infantalized visual style that looks like it was made by their favorite youtube animator. A recipe to appeal to Gen Z, all while the game itself is nothing special and is easily comparable to any of the other Metroidvania Souls-like corporate indie slop that clogs online game stores

>>718680134
mind you, the primary reason indies do not hire is because they simply cannot afford to. these guys are mega millionaires actively not hiring anyone for anything out of sheer greed. Blatant mismanagement all-around.

>>718675263
Somebody post the yandev when do you want this game

>>718680134
Anon extra employees aren't magic, increasing the dev team size leads to a lot of other problems. You have to spend a lot more time and effort on organization. Big AAA companies are a clusterfuck.
They had a process that they liked so they didn't want to change it. They didn't want to have to manage people.

>>718679453
Yeah, I realized this update shit doesnt matter once I started looking for a new metroidvania to look for other than Silksong.
I have one that was "slated" to release in 2025, but its almost 100% the case that theyre not, because despite being retarded indie devs, theyre wasting a fuck ton of money on time on retarded irrelevant shit like translating their game into a dozen languages...for who? Even hollow knight didnt add map markers till the game was already out, because they werent coasting off a priveleged ego that glorifies the indie dev. Once they got a bit of money from the game being released, they released more stuff like DLC and such. For fucking free too.

My point is. Ill take Silksong any day at this point over seeing a kickstarter update again telling me some retard is translating the game for Zimbabwe.

I'd rather not know what possibly retarded shit the devs are doing.

Especially because some of these kickstarter updates actually made me weary for the game, because the way they talked about game design seemed generic and thoughtless. They saw shortcuts as a way to convenience the player and reduce backtracking and likened it to how skyrim does it. They saw death pits and spikes as annoying, so they reduced damage taken from it when hit by an enemy into it.

I was excited for the game before I knew too much, but now I know too much and dont even check the kickstarter page everyday anymore.

>>718676918
Those are aussies? Why are they so brown/paki looking? Isn't Australia a brown shithole now?

small indie studio with lawyers paid until to enforce a 7 year long NDA and also have toe sucking article(s) lined up for them on the planned announcement btw
funny joy!

>>718675202
Just constant validation generation things.

>>718680291
>le le le
Just kill yourself retard.

>>718680419
Yep there are so many fucking games and other media coming out nowadays. There's no reason to obsess over one piece of media in particular. "Waiting" is literally just doing other shit until it comes out.
Albeit some of the silkposting was funny.

>>718679906
article only exists to say it has a lot of joyful content so they can justify charging $40

>>718676665
I also don't know what a Jira is, unless you Jiraiya from Naruto

>>718677910
Nah, reread the full article. He has a wife to take care of his spawn, he could've done more, but he's a lazy faggot kek.

>>718678120
Not doing allat. Give me a QRD and I'll consider it.

>>718676918
KEK someone please make a comic about team cherry being happy making the game completely clueless about the outside world while there's a legion of fans seething from a distance

>>718676038
it's so fucking obvious you're a jobless neet. do you really think you're making as much as your boss? money isn't split equally retard. oh yeah let's give the cunt that made 2 songs 4.3mil.

>>718674890 (OP)

This reminds me of Katana Zero's DLC. I feel those guys regret announcing it as free.

>>718680335
I'm misunderstanding, did they not take money for the development of Silksong? It's different if they were just recieving sales from Hollow Knight + expansions.

>>718678409
>game is the most painfully average 6/10
lol?

>NOOOOO WHY WERENT THESE DEVS MISERABLE?
>WHY ARE THEY HAVING FUN???
>WHERE WAS THE DRAMA AND CRUNCH AND HATE?????

Why are people like this, /v/?

>>718680438
I’m right though… there’s nothing I hate more than Souls-likes. I love FROM games, but people that literally rip off EVERYTHING about the games, including the storytelling, are just exposing themselves as uncreative hacks and frauds trying to make a quick buck. Like my gag reflex activates in real time when I realize the game I’m playing just wholesale rips off souls mechanics

>>718680036
Have you ever considered you are a fucking loser imprinting on something just because it distracted you from trooning out and killing yourself for a little while

>>718680721
crab bucket mentality and addiction to drama

>>718676283
>>718676610
>Dev cracks an affectionate joke about their fanbase
>NOOOOOO WHY ARE THEY INSUFFERABLE ASSHOLES

>>718680721
My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape, but even after admitting this, there is no catharsis. My punishment continues to elude me and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself. No new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing.

>>718680721
Look at the world around you. People find it unfathomable that two blpkes in Australia could achieve this by just having fun.

>>718674890 (OP)
>took
>past tense
I believe when I see it.

>>718680419
>>718680506
Man you losers really don't get it, do you? It's not about consooming, it's about trust. You can't trust a tiny game to be made for 6 years and it not be shit. You know somethings up, somethings going wrong, you need an update on your investment. You guys talk like small money, and it shows.

>>718680671
The kickstarter ended like a decade ago.
The money they make is from selling products, like any other company.
What's there to be confused about?

>>718680721
It's not about being fucking miserable don't take large sums of money and then fuck it off doing hijinks *without* ROI

>>718678120
Saw this late. Thanks will read up on this when im rich.

>>718674890 (OP)
Well Expedition 33 just lost GOTY.

>>718680671
They funded Silksong solely from Hollow Knight sales. Silksong is technically considered the promised "Hornet DLC" from the Hollow Knight kickstarter, but they didn't get any extra kickstarter money to make Silksong.
Also it wasn't about the money.
>Throughout development, Team Cherry remained tiny, which may have extended the production time but also saved them from the slog of having to manage and delegate. “We don’t want to mess with the formula and then find out it’s not fun,” Gibson said. “I used to manage teams in past lives. I don’t really want to do that ever again.”

>>718680904
But they were making a game and it's coming out in about 2 weeks...?

>>718680753
This is not a counterargument.

>>718680970
(sigh) I'll wait for the reviews, then.

>>718680926
Thankfully, not. Inide games pretty much never win the game awards. Plus if all the stuff about E33 being some secret jew game is true, then silksong never stood a chance.

>>718680721
A lot of wagies who work miserable jobs have to cope and tell themselves that it HAS to be that way and better things aren't possible. They are fed endless propaganda about "art from adversity" and how "suffering builds character".

>>718675980
just wait you child

>>718680893
>lol subhuman retard projecting his insecurity and trust issues onto someone else
luckily, im not without a soul and therefore still have the capacity to believe and hope, even with all my logical cynicism.

>>718674890 (OP)
>directionless bloated game
it will be shit

>Gibson and Pellen say they’re happy that the game is finally coming out — and even happier that they will get to keep working on it, which they still find enjoyable even after seven years. They haven’t burned out or shown any desire to take a break. Instead, they’re already making big plans to add extra content to Silksong in the months and years to come.
thanks for betatesting hollowcucks

>>718680904
>ROI
They had no investors.
The development was funded by Hollow Knight sales.

>>718680970
>"Hi can we have a bunch of money.... it's for ""work""."
>okay here's your money
>"yeah were barely working the whole time and could have done it with a fraction of the money we asked for."
>okay then why did you ask for so much money when you were already successful and it didn't cost nearly as much as you asked
>"WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR PASSION, OKAY?"

big oof

>>718680510
Jira is project management software used in software development. From what I remember it can be used to give each developer tasks, set deadlines and more.

>>718681124
Worst part is, it won't even be bloated. It'll be like release hollow knight, where there is pretty much fuck all to do. All this time spent on essentially nothing. Looking grim.

>>718675202
>>718675845
Why? Seriously, why do they need to tell anyone anything?
'Waiting' for a game to come out is seriously the most retarded thing anyone can do. Play other games, do other things. I don't need devs to constantly baby me with updates because I don't give a shit until the game is out, I have other things to do in the meantime.

>>718679906
0$. It's obviously not going to happen but it's funny to think about how hard it'd mindbreak the internet if it did. God knows those aussies probably have enough in savings to get away with it at this point

>>718681193
>big oof
Oh no, the poor devs. How will they get 300k people for a 5 minute release date stream and also become the most wishlisted game on steam now?
boy oh boy I bet they sure do regret making silksong now!

>>718681228
Read the thread, esl brownoid.

>>718674890 (OP)
What a load of shit. Smaller because they had nothing and came up with the lame hub quest idea to push this abortion out finally. One thing everone loves about these games is fucking backtracking. That many reused assets and it still took 7 years for an unfinished game.

>>718681176
>They haven’t burned out or shown any desire to take a break.
honestly. genuinely happy for them, this whole time i kind of thought for some reason that they were hating making the game and would be done with any kind of development after it. its nice to know thats not the case, and that you can genuinely enjoy making videogames for this many years, and not be burnt out. if I had a little bit more hope and skill, id be inspired by this to make something of my own.

>>718681268
Pfttt hahahahaa
Someone post the simpsons gif of the one guy making all this money with homer sitting in the cuck corner going "y-you'll regret m-making all that money!!!" BAHAHAHAHAA kek

What about technical debt for all this shit theyre adding?

holy shit there are a LOT of people in this thread seething because they had to wait all this time without any social media updates, lmao
you people are fucking pathetic

>>718681389
It says right there it turned out BIGGER, not smaller.

>>718681524
Will be paid off when the game makes them(and me) rich again lol.

>>718676879
What a retarded comment. They’re already doing it. The “indie” scene is corporatized as fuck. That’s why people aren’t making unique games, they’re making utter corporate homogenized slop like Metroidvania Souls-lites, Roguelite Deckbuilders, etc.

>we waited 7 years for more of the same?
yes.
>isn't that a letdown?
no.

>>718681268
>>718681441
Lol, no one's getting funding after Silksong. lmao. Not just team cherry.

>>718681538
>someone saved my funny meme collage from years ago
Holy shit! That was a blast from the past. Y'know, interestingly enough, I made that collage in college while working on my theses, so it was like my college collage.

>>718675202
They do not owe you a think, freako obssesed fag.

to this day he's still the best indie dev

>>718679243
>>complains about devs making the game instead of wasting time on social media while making fake
Giving information on the title that people paid for is not wasting time, it is informing your customers that you are continuing work. 7 years is not a normal dev cycle to develop a game, even on Kickstarter. You are willfully misinterpreting what he is saying to be annoying.

>>718681741
>They do not owe you a think
Hollow knight shills confirmed yet again for all being brown thirdies jej

>>718681321
Argument not found.

>>718675202
>AND THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD EARLY ACCESS
>AND THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE COMMUNITY EVENTS
>AND THEY SHOULD HAVE ADDED GACHA MECHANICS
>AND THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME AN EXCLUSIVE COPY OF THE GAME
fuck I hate consoomerfags.

>>718681725
wow, thats a coincidence. of all the threads for me to finally use it in, its the one you happen to be in
how serendipitous

>>718675202
They probably did it non intentionally at first because there was development hell but then kept it because they saw what cult it created around the game.
The cult that was created around the game was the best advertisement campaign they can hope for, for free.
It will print money after 2 weeks, regardless if it's mid or not.

>>718681830
I made a minor error, it does sound jeet though LMAO

The most hilarious part of this story is that there is no drama.

And for some reason this makes people SEETHE.

>>718681934
This is the true answer. Dicksucking shills on one side and raging faggots on the other won't admit it though.

oh god its setting in
I NEED TO PLAY IT
I NEED TO FUCKING PLAY IT RIGHT NOW

>>718681632
Yeah because they won't need funding. They're going to make an assload of money and can do whatever the fuck they want afterwards.
lol. What does this comment even fucking mean?
>Yeah they're gonna make a retarded amount of money but uh... No one's gonna fund them so good luck kiddo!

>>718677015
She's the one who actually programs stuff

>>718682007

crabs in a bucket eveyrwhere

>>718681049
QRD on the last part?

>retarded NPC consumer: INSTANT GRATIFICATION LOW INHIBITION ZERO TIME HORIZON MORE DEBT MORE DEBT MORE DEBT MORE DEBT
>scumbag producer: yesss give us more money *lights it on fire producing nothing for the economy* our PASSION must grow brighter
>investor: yeah these fucks are deranged? time to invest in other sectors of the market videogames are disgusting

>>718679906
0$ I'm pirating it
They will probably ask for 39$

>>718682045
14 days brother

>>718681930
Heh yeah. It has happened more often than you think. It helps if you're the divine creative type that can come up with a meme on the fly and with a little luck it spreads like wildfire across the planet. It always makes me smile seeing some ancient meme image I made a decade ago get reposted. Just gotta go with what works, y'know? Alright anon, it was nice chatting with you, but I gotta go out for a smoke break and to call my wife. Cheers.

>>718681632
brother doesn't even know how indie games make money. They have like 5 people to pay dicknose, they're gonna make an insane profit. They already did on Hollow Knight. None of you have ever had any real sort of job because you have no idea how volume works.

>>718676283
Can't handle the aussie banter

>>718682087
You're poor. I'm saying you can't expect *any* indie to gain funding, because investors can just say "indies just take our money and wipe their ass with it" and point to 900 indie devs shitting all over their investments with no retort.

>>718680091
They hired some troon? How much woke shit will be sprinkled through the game, the first already had gay shit?

>THEY DIDN'T SHOW ME SCREENSHOTS
>THEY DIDN'T SPOIL HALF THE GAME
>i HAVE TO GO INTO THE GAME BLIND
>AND THIS FUCKING SUCKS AND I HATE IT

>>718682292
>you have no idea how volume works.
I've got a clear picture now from how loud your faggoty screeching is.

>>718682429
you're a gay homo faglord who sucks cock on his throne made of dildos, faggot.

>>718680091
Holy shit you guys new or something? The tranny dev drama is years old at this point. Xim transitioning and having troony spergouts is what most people assumed was the cause for all the delays.

>>718682405
I can't believe it...Indie gaming is dead...forever...because the hollow knight devs.......didn't....post screenshots... of silksong....
It's so fucking over for indie gaming it never even started.... FUCK
How will devs that never counted on getting by investors get funded by investors now????????????????????

mossbag video doko

>>718682427
I don't get to go in blind though. Game's not complete, they have "ambitious" DLC plans so now I have to wait more because I want my first playthrough to be "peak" and it can't be that until the DLC is included.

>>718682660
It must suck to be autistic lmao

>>718682405
yeah and? anyone with taste knows the best games on the planet are made by 1-5 people with no funding.

>he's STILL screaming into the void after getting called out
Go on, give my thread another bump and me another (You). I'm rich with them already.

>>718682087
>>718682292
>>718682758
>one guy made money, so everyone else will
that's not how money works, fucking zoomers. You literally all lost money.

>>718682704
It's not about autism anon, why the fuck would I spoil my experience by playing an incomplete version?

This isn't like Elden ring or something where there's a true value to repeat playthroughs and multiplayer interactions to be had. If I play it before the DLC, I'll be playing the worst possible version of it.

>>718679906
its on gog, its 0$

>>718677643
>shitslop
Holy fucking seethe, this was written on a keyboard with missing keys

>>718682842
UGH How will indie devs ever handle not getteing invested in?
Jeeze, I hope they realize silksong has doomed them!!!!

>>718682842
i do not care how much money these people make at all. If you don't think these guys are gonna make an insane amount of money off autistic retards you're stupid. There are three dudes that work at this company.

>>718682861
>It's not about autism it's about *autistic screeching*
okay

You guys have the emotional control of a toddler

>>718680632
As a neet Im actually more entitled to talk about it than you wageslave, since this is a passion project, lmao get fucked

>>718679814
First game was barebones as hell, tf you on about? If it felt bloated, it's because movement was trash and there was too much backtracking.

>>718682958
>>718682928
>who cares my guys won
You literally cannot comprehend the idea that there's countless companies that comprise an industry all receiving funding right this second.

Realistically, how would anyone's life change by the devs saying
>yup, still working on it, here's a screenshot
every so often? Either it comes out or it doesn't, you have no agency in the matter so there's no point thinking about it

>>718680721
Im sure they were having fun with all that money while we, the real people, had to deal with a pandemic, financial and personal crisis, the absolute radio silence for 7 yeara for a game we were supporting all the time, and much more.
>"oh but lool its just 2 more weeks"
Fuck you, its underwhelming, its dissapointing, and I hope they get killed in a robbery

>>718681758
Pixel still mogs everyone, don't even bother replying, you know I'm right.

>who the fuck cares about anything but instant gratification
fucking bleak lmao

>>718683126
Yeah man all these indie devs already not geting invested in? fucking crushed. It's over for them because that thing that wasn't happening still isn't happening.

>>718683007
Enjoy playing SS Early Access and coming back every couple years to play 10 mins of content. I'll be there when the game's complete and experience it as a whole.

>>718680070
>Base game of HK was not bloated at all.
The world design is pretty, that's about it. Considering i've played practically the vast majority of the genre and it's games i'm still pretty confident to put certain Igavanias, Shadow Complex and both La Mulanas head and shoulders above Hollow Knight. Hell on the combat side of things, Rabi Ribi and TEVI are also both in a much better spot so generally i've pretty much reserved Hollow Knight's spot somewhere between some of the more profilic indie titles like Messenger, etc... Even in that case Messenger does a lot of unique things while Hollow Knight to me always felt like it was a simple 2D action Soulslike, skinwalking as a Metroidvania.

>>718676038
30 million isn't a lot, not because of anything you said, but because it's australia so almost half of it's getting double taxed by the government. Once as corporate profit, and again as employee income.

>>718674890 (OP)
SILKSONG!
IT TOOK 7 YEARS TO MAKE!

>>718683126
Yeah i don't care about souless faggots looking for investors for their faggotslop. Indies made by one schizo will always be better.

>>718683139
obsessed dude. you're allowed to work on a product in peace - not their fault their game has faggy deltarune fans.

>>718681584
Cant forget about "survivor-likes" now which is the laziest shit ever made

>>718679394
yes you are silly, and retarded

>>718675480
I wouldn’t say the expectations are that high, the consensus is that people are expecting bigger more streamlined hollow knight which seems is exactly what they are giving. There is nothing to suggest the game has any blatant issues so far. They are giving the fans exactly what they asked for

>>718683238
>>718683372
>why isn't there any *good* games?
>(barking) GUY WITH PASSION DON'T MAKE ANY FUCKING MONEY DO IT FOR FREE IN YOUR BASEMENT
consoomers are schizo

>>718674890 (OP)
>>718676918
>>718677335
It looks boring as fuck, Im going to kill all of you and then myself out of pure dissapointment... This game was supposed to fix EVERYTHING, and it just failed.

>>718683139
huh. What a faulty and nihilistic argument.

>>718683564
idk seemed to work for the Astlibra and troubleshooter devs so I am sure there are more it can work for hth :)

so is all the team cherry ass-kissing in this thread genuine, purely to feel contrarian, or is it bait?

so is all the team cherry ass-hating in this thread genuine, purely to feel contrarian, or is it bait?

>>718683568
We've basically seen less then 20 minutes of a 30 hour game it'll probably be fine

>>718683564
there are good games, they are made by schizos in their basements.

>>718683721
>wrongthink bad
coworker energy

>>718676918
>jibanyan figurine
based.

>>718683671
>thinkwrong bad
coworker energy

>>718683721
>CANT HAVE AN OPINION, JUST CONSOOOOM

>>718683512
>"sucking dick every day is my passion, my record is 27 in a single night!"

what the fuck are you talking about?

>>718683180
Australia got hit with the pandemic the worst of us. The gov't went full nazi and took away people's rights, forced them into little shack camps, and had the police going around to forcibly vaccinate everyone including small children. The citizens over there lost all faith in their government becoming a nanny state, and it hasn't recovered. You are right though in that they could've showed a quick pic or vid or something. Kinda boring they were too lazy for even that.

>>718683845
>CAN HAVE AN OPINION, MUST HATESOOOOOOM

>>718674890 (OP)
>2019: "over 150 new enemies"
>2025: "over 200 new enemies"

>Silksong: "over 40 legendary bosses"
>Hollow Knight: *has 47 bosses*

It took them 6 years to make 50 more enemies and less bosses than the first game? And the rest is just checklist fetchquest slop? I hope there is at least a good upgrade/build system.

The saddest thing though is that even if it's bad, it won't flop because all the trannies and indiefags are gonna shill the game anyways

>>718683816
Okay, so definitely not the first one.

>>718683564
I don't really understand what you're arguing for here? This is the way indie dev should work.
>spend tireless nights and your own money and time making your passion project > don't have any investors or expectations so it is wholly your own > sell game > make money that only you and storefront get > make insane money if your game is appealing (making money is not the goal regardless)
You sound very corporate. People want to make games because they want to make art, real people anyway. These are the only good games.

>>718683762
must they be chained to the furnace in a basement mining for groundwater with a rusty spoon? Someone free him, basement dev making actually good games. Consumers won't, they only fund pop-slop

>>718676038
>If the company employed 20 people
Fucking retard

>>718683917
lol you tried

>>718683991
Suffering is part of the artistic process and unironically makes better art, the best artists are schizo for a reason after all.

>>718674890 (OP)
So it's gonna be shit then? got it.

>>718683929
Hollow Knight had less then 40 bosses on launch

>>718683991
>they only fund pop-slop
Like hollow knight...glad we agree

>>718683883
Oh wow, the gov people voted for made everyone take a flu vaccine, what a tragedy

>>718683984
TRVKENVKE

>>718684143
Still waiting on the apparent 7 billions vax deaths that were supposed to happen 4 years ago lol

>>718680420
The fuck are you talking about anon

>>718683991
If you free him he'll make silksong and haunted chocolatier and mina the hollower

>le heckin wholesome devs having fun!!
>actually it's a good thing they didn't post updates or even screenshots
>team cherry is the best jajajaja!!

so much shilling and defense for a mid 8-hour one and done metroidvania, this board is so full of brown troonoids it's insane

>>718684143
With guns and killed people over it.
Plus don't ignore all the other horrible shit over there. It makes you look like a disingenuous jew, and pretty much everyone hates you guys for all that.

>>718675202
Yeah,
>release a screenshot,
>someone uploads it to /v/
>duh, woke! Trannies! Slop! Garbage!
The discussion is so great already, who would have guessed what how the release will go.

>>718678940
You fuck your dog, you aren't fooling anyone.

Very funny watching shazamtards in this thread have a nuclear meltdown because it turns out a game they desperately wanted to fail had a healthy, chill dev cycle and was made by people who are genuinely passionate about their work. Looking forward to playing Silksong while you misanthropic fags mald and seethe in your parents' basements.

>>718684793
>coworker reply

>>718684351
NTA, but aren't the Australian?

>>718676038
It amazes me how dumb some of you are lmao.

>>718679465
>xirs says while posting on 4chin everyday

>>718684793
You mean you're going to pirate and play it at 5FPS in your water damaged shithole, right pajeet?

>>718674890 (OP)
Why are trannies so excited for this game i don't get it

>>718685008
No need to pirate it, it's free on gamepass :)

>>718682560
qrd?

>>718675006
More like they had to see how many modern games they could steal ideas from lol

>>718676918
SOVL

>>718680625
The qrd is
>3rd world shitholes deforest to sell timber and farm palm oil because they couldnt give less than 2 shits and some rich faggy american isnt going to change that
>1st world shit holes deforest primarily to build houses/roads for their jewish housing market grifts. Otherwise they just farm timber and are very selective about which trees actually get cut(not out of love for nature thats just the most efficient way to do it)
Never read whatever book that guys talking about but thats the gist of the issue. Good luck convincing the poor palm oil farmer thats hes evil for effective exterminating a rare parrot or someshit they dont care.

Why are tendies raiding the thread if the game is releasing on the Switch?
Did they not get the memo?

>>718684829
You do know that being a contrarian just for the sake of contrarianism and seething at everything other people like just makes you even more of an NPC than they are, right?

>>718684758
A lot of it is pent of nerd rage over the devs not releasing any information. It just puts them and the game in a bad light.

>>718680834
kys, simple as...

>>718681176
>they’re already making big plans to add extra content to Silksong in the months and years to come.

> in b4 they feature creep the update again to the point where it becomes another game

>>718685236
Quirrel game or we riot

>>718685137
Ahh I see. That other faggot could've just said "the jews" and I would;ve gotten the point. Thank you, anon.

>>718685008
>projecting this hard
I live in a one bedroom apartment in New York City, and I'm gonna play it on my PS5 when I'm not busy busting raw inside black queens. Keep doing you, though.

>>718685015
/v/ is probably the most popular trans-friendly board, people frequently recommend trans and trans allies to go here for video game discussion these days.

>>718684095
Hollow knight took less than half the time to develop

>>718685161
Tuning out complaints that go against wrongthink doesn't make contrarians NPC.

Agressively defending hyper-popular media that 99% of people spam religiously *is* literally default NPC program boilerplate.
>I won't go on 99% of social media sites that share my opinion I'll go to /v/ that has 0.01 people disagreeing with me

go put on some benson boone at full volume

>>718685329
You mean while Tyrone fucks your girlfriend in the background, right?

>2D jokegame
>perfectionist
pick one

platform of choice?

>>718685307
Well hold up thats only half the problem. Its
>the jews and the browns+chinks
There you go thats the full story

>>718685347
>>718684095
>>718683929
Ahh shit. Is this gonna be another Ruse and Wilds situation, where the newer game is worse and with LESS content?

>>718685401
>unironically saying shit like "wrongthink"
You think of the world in absolutes and there's no saving you. Enjoy the life you've chosen for yourself you miserable retard.

>>718684793
>Genuinely passioned
And creatively bankrupt. There is not a single original idea in HK. Not one. It's the most vanilla ice there can possibly be.
Hope they added slopes this time around.

>>718685073
you can't steal an idea

I 100%ed hollow knight on release and never did any of the dlcs. Is two weeks enough time to replay it and finish up the added content considering i have a fulltime job and a social life(maybe 2 hours of gaming a day)

>>718684957
It's called a tan anon, it's what happens when you live in a country where the sun is trying to kill you from the second you step out of the house.

>>718685401
Well said. These people think that liking popular things like a spineless NPC makes them interesting. It's not, it's boring. Being smart and creative is the true chad path.

>>718685425
>oh yeah, smart guy? well check this out: all I ever think about is black cock
This will never be the own you guys think it is.

>>718685456
GOG so I can pirate it
Steam if someone gifts me a copy

Hollow Knight is extremely bloated so I hope they are telling the truth and Silksong is smaller

>>718685236
ZOTE GAME LETS GO

>>718677149
not that anon, I'm pirating it too. I will play it for free on release day.. then I will come to /v/ and call it shit.

>>718685727
Thanks for confirming my suspicions about you.

>>718684957
No but i (unfortunately) work with a lot of middle easterns and can only imagine that anon has never left his basement once in his life to think those guys are pakis

>>718685645
Should be plenty of time if you look up guides beforehand. The worst offender will be all that walking around and backtracking just for a crumb of collectible, or having to grind for money. But it should be doable otherwise if you aren't a bitch and you can git gud.

>>718679814
the only people who think hollow knight is a bloated game are the ones with 50 unplayed games in their library who expect every game to be over with in 5 hours.

>>718685653
I read that as "It's called a tran anon". While accurate if their dev situation is true, I also need to go to sleep kek

>>718685562
>coworker reply (1)
you deliberately ignore the majority to seek out dissent from a literal decimal in order to verbally reprimand them for not agreeing with you.

>one guy gets called out and shit on
>whole thread goes quiet and we can keeop shitting on the game
KWAB
Jews are such cowards

>>718674890 (OP)
I unironically get it

I also worked 7 years on a game, it really can be "blink and you miss it", in that time a lot in my life changed and it just became a job, part of my life.
I moved multiple times, 2 daughters of mine were born, and i was very busy with them for 3 years before they demanded less time, and the time flies, i forgot why i even joined the company in that time.
Then one day you realize you have been working 7 years on a project and its almost ending and you start wondering what will you do next, switch companies? Take half a year off? Stay on and move to another project?
Blogpost over.

>>718675202
SYBAU

>>718674890 (OP)
technically speaking, deltarune is taking even longer to come out

>>718685795
kys

>>718686794
Based beyond belief

>>718686794
to be fair, with such a small team there'd be little point in using jira. I'm assuming they used something else instead of trello.

>uploaded 2 hours ago
>1.100.000 views
>for a game by 3 guys
How did they do it?

>>718687140
Bug power

>>718675370
>YOU CAN'T ENJOY THE MONEY YOU MADE WITH YOUR WORK, YOU MUST SPEND EVERY SINGLE CENT HIRING AAA TEAMS SO I CAN GET A SEQUEL FASTER
poorfags love to talk about empathy just to beg, but they don't have any empathy for other's people work

>>718687140
>a third of that was from the first two minutes
What killed the hype?

>>718686459
tranny acronym

i know of multiple metroidvania indie devs that have stalled announcing their games release date purely because silksong was coming

they can now finally announce their dates too (looking at you grime 2)

>>718687140
oh, it updated the views for people watching live
it was at 5k after 1 hour

>>718687481
Yeah, we're trending to zero. By September 4 we'll have sub-Concord numbers.

>>718678641
>especially if you are an actual software developer yourself
I am. My team doesn't do jira, agile, etc. The team that sits in cubicles next to me does. In the time I spent yesterday listening to them go through their daily humiliation ritual meeting where half the time is spent talking about other meetings I knocked out a bug ticket, attended my team's semiweekly meeting, and got a decent way through on a feature ticket. They knew how to make software in the 90s and every innovation since is just a time wasting scheme

>self-proclaimed corpofag absolutely seething and writing fanfiction about how silksong is going to kill indie gaming as a whole somehow
lmfao

Are people really excited for this game? It seems to me like the most reddit shit ever. That and that Deltarune or whatever game. I don't see the appeal at all. It screams gay, trannies, and art hoes.

I'm HYPED, been waiting so long to play this. Have some celebratory art.

>>718687710
Yes anon, all hype everywhere is a tranny conspiracy. You are very smart. Fauci made us do it.

>>718687710
you know you can just try the first game instead of being so cancerous

https://gog-games.to/game/hollow_knight

>>718687834
And a variant with Whitebeard's smile

>>718687703
First Ross killed live-service games and now Team Cherry kills the indies... what a time to be alive

>>718687834
nice anon, glad we can all finally play it

Did people just forget how content packed Hollow Knight was? Or that it didn't start out that way? That it was a majority of its time an early access title? Did people just fucking forget that?

>>718687710
Hey im a cute asian girl and i just want to say contrarians are really cute teehee

>Wanted to replay HK and do all the pantheons
>Now there's no time
fugg

>>718678641
>Exploring dead kingdoms was invented by Dark Souls
>Integrating respawning into the lore was invented by Dark Souls
>Blacksmiths were invenetd by Dark Souls
You're one of those retards that thinks OFF was inspired by Earthbound

>>718688009
LONDON
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>>718687710
You have mental illness

>>718687576
>they can now finally announce their dates too (looking at you grime 2)
Im also looming at Grime 2 devs. Unironically only devs besides hollow knight to make combat I genuinely think is well designed. Hoping Grime 2 doesnt make the mistake Grime 1 did of introducing platforming to complicate and very navigation late into the game and it comes much earlier.

It and Aeterna Lucis were the two anticipated indies I was banking on this year.
Another one popped up on my radar like the last week or so, but its not metroidvania.

>>718687834
>>718687937
The most dangerous princess

>>718675202
>GIVE ME MORE MARKETING
this is you

>>718685015
>>718685340
You guys are trying a little too hard

So to summarize: The team stayed as just 3 people and they took their sweet time making the game. They didn't put out consistent updates since they thought it would just annoy people more and never set any hard release window since they're in it for their own enjoyment

>>718675202
>isn't an excuse
Didn't preorder, didn't promise release date, didn't own anything to you.
Shut your fucking faggot mouth.

>>718681795
>what he is saying
lmao shut the fuck up you little bitch

>>718674890 (OP)
>unrionically shilling for (((jaseon schreier)))
>unrionically damage controlling for team cherry
TWO. MORE. WEEKS. TRUST THE PLAN. IT WILL TOTALLY COME OUT. KEEP WAITING FOR YOUR KIKESTARTER ""GAME""

>>718675202
fuck no, devs never did that before discord. Just make the game and shut up, don't let trannies decide how the game should play, look or function. I'm of the opinion that devs should distance themselves from the fandom, at most read issues and that's about it

>>718685015
When the trans community is excited for a game, I sit my black ass down and listen

>>718678641
They weren't inspired by dark souls. Hollow knight is not "souls-like" at all.
They had played bloodborne and did say it influenced how SOUL works.

>>718689193
>"HORNET AS A CHARACTER WAS A KICKSTARTER REWARD SO THE ENTIRE GAME IS A KICKSTARTER GAME"

>>718674890 (OP)
So did they at least apologize for the radio silence or missing their June 2023-2024 release window?

>>718689193
>TWO. MORE. WEEKS.
Yes, anon. September 4th is two weeks away.

>>718688008
1.0 didn't feel like early access, the only part that might've been unfinished was that bee knight boss they added later. Grimm and Godhome just felt like bonus content

>>718689335
they dont care, they are rich, it doesnt matter what the cattle that consumes the slop thinks

>>718674890 (OP)
Honestly, that's the best thing I could hope to hear. No drama, no restarted development, just pure nose to the grindstone work for seven fucking years. This is how true masterpieces are made. I'm fucking hyped, bros.

>>718674890 (OP)
Isn't the dev team ridiculously small? Also expectations were very high.

anons
isn't this release window going to kill every big title that is releasing end of august/early september???

what will mgs3 remake, shinobi, dawn of cronos etc will all do?
cry and masturbate?

>>718689619
Shantae got fucked hilariously hard by the way, literally came out yesterday.

>>718684793
>t. Team cherry 4th employee

They 100% spent entire months doing nothing.

>>718689619
Dude, this already ruined GTA VI release, people will talk about Silksong for decades

>>718689825
>doing nothing
no it was hookers and coke for hours on end every day every month for at least 2 years
they ran out of money and development resumed

>>718674890 (OP)
Too late. I played the original with the randomizer mod for hundreds of hours but since then I've lost any interest in the sequel.

>>718689993
You know you'll play it anyway.

>>718690051
Nah, my backlog is too big already.

>>718689993
>Anon plays silk song 5 years after it was released
>Immediately regrets not playing it during the hype season when he find out it is good

>>718689561
It's literally 3 people

>>718690151
I am too old, FOMO has no effect on me.

>>718690279
ok boomer

tfw going camping with the bros and i will be back in time for the new limbus story update and the next week will be silksong
sometimes life is good bros

>>718690257
And those 3 people are still living thanks to our money, maybe they should've work in the game we want instead of wasting time on holidays and shit

>>718675202
Agree. Radio silence isn't really excusable, it's completely masturbatory.

>>718690625
hope you die mauled by wild animals just so your hell is never being able to play silk song :)

>>718690625
>anon gets raped by friends
>Silksong releases and its shit
>nuclear warfare a week later
:)

>>718690625
I hope you have a nice time and enjoy silksong.

>>718688008
>That it was a majority of its time an early access title?
It's not okay that we've waited 7 years just for another Early Access title.

HKzoomies about to have their first FF15 moment

>>718688903
Damn, you are really mad

>>718688071
No fuck you. Those shitstains 100% took inspiration and then lied.

ugly ahh graphics

>>718675202
You would have been shitposting about how bad it looks with every reveal if they had.

>>718680812
you're on a board with autistic people who think the whole world revolves around them, anon

Will you play the game without talking to /v/ so you get to discover everything by yourself, or will you be here constantly to talk about your experience?
This is the real dilemma

>>718678641
>Motherfucker these are the same faggots that tried to claim with a straight face that the weren't inspired by Dark Souls and never played it.

Ok, I need a legit source on that, otherwise fake news

>>718674890 (OP)
The hype for this is so artificial it’s insane
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a genuine shill campaign of this level
Even shit like billboards and product placement are more endearing than this “teehee kept you on a string for almost a decade to play a literal 1:1 clone of a very basic indie platformer :) please be hyped and make #teamcherry your entire life!!

>>718691161
I'm having the same dilemma, AND with the added problem that drawfags will no doubt make really good porn of Hornet that won't be posted on any other site.

September 4
September 4
September 4
September 4
September 4
September 4
September 4

>>718691161
I will just play the game to inflate the day 1 numbers
I just want the number fags to be forever btfo seeing the all time peaking to 1.5m+
then i'll play it slowly and having fun afterwards

>>718674890 (OP)
>we're rich and don't need money and just had fun making game
Fine. I'd post "commence the seethe and kvetching" but we're 400 posts in and I won't bother reading beyond OP, so I assume that already happened.

It's going to be good, but X (replace with whatever) is going to shoyuboys are going to shart hard anyway.

>>718691349
Sounds like a plan

>>718691161
I'm going to avoid it as hard as possible and hope they finish with the DLC before I get the game completely fucking spoiled.

>>718691241
Literally -I- asked them that question in an obscure live AMA they held years ago. I asked them to talk about Dark Souls and it's influence and Gibson looked me in the figurative eye and said
Ari said
>No way
>I haven't even played it
then William said
>I got about half way through it

It was a stream on some Aussie twitch clone.

>>718691161
>Will you play the game without talking to /v/ so you get to discover everything by yourself,
Yes. Threads will be sharty shitposting centrals anyway. Not even worth checking.

>>718691161
What I usually do with any game that's longer than 30 hours.
Avoid /v/ for the most part but take so long to beat it that I'm inevitably going to spoil myself on something cool when I either peek /v/ or youtube.

>>718691161
Fuck the threads, I'll play the game.
It'll just be a full of shitposting

>>718691440
So? Not everyone played shit souls.

>>718691161
I might pop in a little, but I want to mostly experience it for myself first.

>>718691161
IF... Im day 1, then its same as always: post a lot on 1st and 2nd day (so around the first 5 hours of a game) then Im out till finish the main story or its equivalent.

>>718674890 (OP)
I can summarize this with
>We're lazy
Thats it

>>718691161
play it myself, never worth spoiling the fun just to discuss it a little earlier

>>718691161
It's not a puzzle game or a story game with le ebin twist, worst spoilers would be secret locations and it's not like you'll find 100% of them on your own.

Where is pre-order? You can't trick myself with numbers even if it is release date. Never relax around Silksong

>>718691440
I wish you posted a screenshot or something, cause otherwise I'm still x to doubt

But if true, I do wonder if they were inspired by games *that* were inspired by the first Dark Souls - one game that comes to mind is Salt and Sanctuary, a dark fantasy metroidvania

But as I'm still writing it, I see that SnS was released in 2016, which was also a year where a beta version of HK got to public... so a big hmmm all around

>>718691597
True. You know some asshole is going to take one NPC that says some innocuous and out of context statement like
>I never cared much for males
blow it out of proportion, then makes dozens of shitty culture war threads calling the game woke or indieslop.

>>718675659
reddit is fake. I refuse to believe that there isn't some propaganda arm that specifically signal boosts tranny shit. Its inescapable on that site.

>>718674890 (OP)
>Tfw you were so busy having so much fun you left everyone in the dark for years

>>718692050
Based Proko

>>718691605
Anon, they're fucking lying. The game is very very very clearly influenced by Dark Souls and they're dishonest faggots who're too up their own asses to admit it.

>Corpse runs with your currency on the line
>Long lost kingdoms full of loyal knights who still stand guard
>Challenging but fair bosses
>Optional content and lore presented in subtle and vague ways

It's very very Souls influenced and those lying faggots lied right to my figurative face. I also asked them if bugs in HK are human sized in a normal world or bug sized in a human world and they refused to even answer but confirmed there's an answer.

>>718691865
I'm sure if you look it up you can maybe find some details. There's reddit posts where nerds have transcribed some of their lore answers from AMA streams.

>>718692050
In 40 years we will hear all about how Redditor was an effective propaganda arm of the CIA

>>718692247
Dark Souls didn't invent any of that.

>>718683184
I just beat Kero blaster recently and I agree with this. One day I’ll beat the Hell level of Cave Story but I think pixel is old with a family now so it’s realistic that we’ll never get another game from him :(

>>718692329
No it was just wildly popular and everybody who played HK agreed it felt like it was heavily influenced by them.

>>718692247
Least deranged soulsfag.

>>718692247
Your arguments, evidences and what not are 100% valid and I agree - I just wish to find the source of them claiming that where they explicitly stated that they weren't inspired by ds

If they stated something like "I played hallway through only" or "I saw the game, but never played it" doesn't mean that they didn't took some/several elements from that game

>>718692469
No, only soulsbabies thought that.

>>718692603
>I just wish to find the source of them claiming that where they explicitly stated that they weren't inspired by ds
The VoDs are gone and unless somebody transcribed MY question or mirrored the entire stream, it won't happen unfortunately. It's lost. Like tears in rain.

Ngl, Silksong becoming a meme is a great marketing achievement, not only is cheaper than constant updates and whatnot, but now it doesnt matter what they deliver the game will do good financially

>>718674890 (OP)
>HOLLOW KNIGHT SILKSONG AND WHY IT TOOK 7 YEARS
I'll summarize it for you.
>We stumbled upon a hit game that sold too many copies, we announced a sequel but we had no clue what to do with it because we don't know why people like our game or what they expect from us, and we don't know either what the hell to do with this new game with the extremely overwhelming hype it generated
It's simple, it's the same shit as genshin, they stumbled upon a hit and don't know how to continue the hype, that's why it took them 7 years to make, and it wasn't because it literally took them 7 years to code and draw all shit for the game.

>>718691261
it's completely organic though. they have 3 guys and they barely said anything for years, they never tried to create artificial hype

>>718675328
>"I need to know about a game that isn't out and subject to change RIGHT NOW"
Fucking cry about it fag.

>>718685626
Tell that to nintendo who patented them after palworld supposedly "stole" them, which in theory should've nulled the patent application since if there's other products using a design before being patented, even if you're the first to implement it, it can't be patented because they want to prevent the very thing nintendo is doing by patent trolling another company that they thought was a sizeable competitor.

>>718686049
If anything that just proves this place has rotten your brain.

>>718692950
Sure but the question is if they actually managed to put something interest in there or otherwise they ended up playing it safe (as it already looks from the first area) and they just want to ride the hype wave

>>718676283
They're so fucking based

>>718687140
that's literally nothing, the new CoD got 30 million views in a day

>>718684989
>xhe posts on 4cuck for validation
:x

>>718693193
>patented them after
Nintendo already had the parent patent filed since 2021. Pocketpair could challenge this, however, since the timing of the patents overlaps with the game's development+release.

>>718693529
>Cowascooby: Fortnite flavor
Literal background noise of the industry.

Never trust indie devs with a sequel, especially if it's overhyped or takes too long. Just look at how much worse Spelunky 2 was compared to the first game.

>>718692742
>If they stated something like "I played hallway through only" or "I saw the game, but never played it" doesn't mean that they didn't took some/several elements from that game
I'll do my best to describe it

>They read my question, something akin to "Would you please talk about Dark Souls and it's influence on HK?"
>Ari immediately shuts it down "No I haven't even played it"
>William then sort of softens the take with something like "I got about half way through, there are similarities for sure"
>Ari then chimes in again re-emphasizing that the game isn't influenced by it

As for SnS, I can see why you'd mention it. I think they just wanted to be seen as their own men with their own creation and not get tossed into a "X-like" bin or whatever else. Still a faggot move. Shoulda just said
>"yeah that game's great, we definitely folded some of what we liked most about it into HK"
and desu I feel like William would've said that if Ari wasn't there shutting it down.

>4cuck
shartyteenbro...

>>718693856
was meant for>>718692603

>>718692247
It's fine to make comparisons, I completely agree that the story overlaps in interesting ways, but you lose the forest through the trees when making such basic comparisons.

>Corpse runs have you fighting your own ghost to get your currency back. Dark Souls only has you go back to your death point and press interact.
>Having your video game setting be in a long lost kingdom is naturally going to get you similar ideas. Enemies being remnants of said lost kingdom is not a conclusion that requires much thinking.
>"Challenging but fair bosses" is just the standard for any video game that everyone wants
>Optional content exists in practically every game, and before the term got cannibalized into being "lore" it used to be called "environmental storytelling"

>>718693856
I'd give you the benefit of doubt then

Of course, it won't change my vastly opinion on these guys, but it does suck if that really happened

>>718694363
vastly positive*

>>718693964
>Corpse runs have you fighting your own ghost to get your currency back. Dark Souls only has you go back to your death point and press interact.
Not him but adding one more gimmicky step to the same underlying process doesn't wash it of it's original influence. 'It's not like Souls because you have to fight an enemy to get your currency back' yeah ok dude I don't know why you expect anyone to read the rest of this shit if you're going to be this obtuse

>>718694505
corpse runs were a staple of mmorpgs since mud

>>718694804
Team cherry even acknowledges that they were influrnced by bloodborne's rally mechanic. If they'd gotten the corpse run from dark souls they would have said so.

>>718694505
I got a bit lost in the sauce when making that point and forgot to say that Shovel Knight also did the currency on death thing. It's not that hard to imagine they just saw the same mechanic in a similar game and thought about doing that. It's just doesn't make sense that they'd deny being inspired by Dark Souls when they've been perfectly honest about lifting the Badges from Paper Mario for their charms.

>>718687834
>>718687937
saved