Thread 718702567

So Jay, what did you think of, Metal Gear Solid Δ: Snake Eater?

my name isnt jay

AT-STs
AT-STs

>>718702567 (OP)
>Well Mike, I watched about thirty minutes of a let's play and then I turned off my PC and went back to rolling on my favorite obscure, Chinese gacha
I genuinely haven't watched them since that incredibly lazy Minecraft movie video

>>718702567 (OP)
Well Mike I thought it was AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS

I hated it!

>>718702567 (OP)
I didn't hate it

>>718703225
>Theyd rather pay for and watch half a movie they know they hate than marvel movies now

Jack Quaid will be outed as a sex pest by the end of 2025

>>718702567 (OP)
>mike now unironically thinks The Acolyte is good
time for the nursing home, you geriatric hack fraud

>>718705456
the old people hate is justified though from him

Snake killed The Boss and I clapped

>>718705456
>mike now unironically thinks The Acolyte is good
It's more of a joke on how Star Wars neckbeards screeched about it, but kept defending the prequels as if they weren't the exact same caliber of dogshit

>>718705456
You can't say Acolyte is bad because people starve in Africa.

Honest opinion of Tim Higgins?

>>718706284
I CLAPPED I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT

>>718704483
What the fuck is even the point of reviewing Marvel when it's just awful quickly churned out capeshit with billion other channels literally dedicated to just talking about Marvel?

>>718706485
explain

>>718707278
In his Acolyte review, Mike pulled the starving African card in response to criticism of the show.

>>718702567 (OP)
I think it's very sexy and will be buying two copies

>>718706634
BRAVO OKAMURA

Reminder that MGS 4 is genuinely a piece of shit. Do not let revisionists try to change the truth.

>>718710620
I loved MGS4 in 2008 and I love MGS4 in 2025. You are a disingenuous little zoomer retard.

>>718711059
>I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT

>>718706457
I tried to watch the new Plinkett video but when he started railing about how young people these days are retarded for liking the Prequels, I decided I might actually not really care about Mike's opinions anymore. He'll gobble up the most disgusting slop movies and say "I LOVED IT, IT WAS TRASH," but then turn around and try to equate Disney Wars with the Prequels as if they're both equally bad and everyone should feel bad for liking either of them.
I don't know what crawled up his ass and died but I don't think Mike is really a good judge of cinema. Maybe he never was. Jay's always seemed more sane.

>>718703225
They were right to leave. That movie is incredibly lazy. I like the director but it honestly feels like "dude what if I filmed Nacho Libre again but without a full script??".

>>718706457
The prequels have substance and style tho. Everything in the acolyte is not imaginative. And this is because in the beginning Mike admits that Star Wars has this big chunk of comics, books, and games that he never looked into so he thinks Old Republic shit is something new. He probably thinks yellow lightsabers were first introduced in Acoslop.

>>718710620
That's a really good piece of shit then

>>718710620
Always was. Same with 3.
>But it was my first MGS so it was based!!!

>>718703225
>minecraft kiddies still seething actual adults couldn't stomach their cringe

>>718704483
Absolutely based.
>This makes retards online angry
Even better. There's nothing interesting left to say about marvelslop.

>>718711736
>try to equate Disney Wars with the Prequels as if they're both equally bad and everyone should feel bad for liking either of them.
It's the exact opposite, though.
One's corporate bad, and the other is "no one had the authority to tell George Lucas 'no'" bad.
This idea that the prequels are magically redeemed because the sequel trilogy was putrid dogshit is pure delusion, it's all fucking awful

>>718713020
>magically redeemed
They were always good.

It's like this:

Low IQ: think the prequels are good
Normal IQ: think the prequels are bad
High IQ: think the prequels are good

You fall under normal IQ so you can't see how good the movies are.

>>718713020
I don't mind people trashing the Prequels, there's a lot wrong with them. What I mind is people saying the Prequels are as bad as the Sequels, it's simply wrong. Mike isn't being rational or fair in his judgments, it's like it's become deeply personal for him that he HAS to convince everyone the Prequels suck, so now he's, for some reason, trying to put them on the same level as the Sequels with his retarded nonsense like pretending to like the Acolyte. Mike loves trash movies, he's constantly defending them in Half in the Bag as long as he thought they were entertaining. Tons of people feel the same way about the Prequels, trash but entertaining.

>>718713312
>bro you're not being fair this 3/10 is totally better than this 2/10
drink bleach

>>718713020
This, but unironically. The prequels are bad, but they have soul and a vision.
Disney SW is just pure, unadulterated corposlop.

>>718713373
Yes. That's exactly right. A 3/10 which is at least entertaining is better than a 2/10 that fails to be entertaining and insults its audience.

I HAVEN'T SEEN KONAMI BOMB THIS BIG SINCE PAZ'S PUSSYNUKE!

>>718706517
I liked him, but I also haven't watched RLM in a bit, so I don't know how he is now. Among the regular guests, he and Mike, Jay, and Rich were my favorites on BOTW. As for the other two, Jack would occasionally have good moments, but Josh felt dull at best and plain unfunny at worst. He's been there for years and yet he always feels like the third (fourth?) wheel of any episode he's in.

>>718713190
you need a high iq to understand jar jar

I miss Jack Packard in BOTW videos. His stunned surprise at horrific moments was amazibmng

>>718711879
I don't care if it's 3 and a half hours of midget scat porn. If you're going to review a thing you watch it in its entirety.

>>718710620
its funny cause it fits

>>718710620
friendly reminder that shit like naomi losing her british accent was due to kojima being a control freak

the codec was a term invented for the english localization of mgs1

all those dumb as fuck lines in both mgs4 and mgs5 were due to kojima wanting literal translations rather than localizations

>>718706457
>It's more of a joke
That's simply not true, but it's also true that he doesn't think it's good. He jokingly said people would reevaluate The Acolyte and start calling it good, but hi also took a middle of the road approach himself and praised a lot of it for doing unique different things.

>>718706517
He can be funny, he's been there since the beginning.
Its cute to watch his episodes because everyone else has had years to learn how to pace themselves during the screenings, but he just gets fucking smashed every single time.

>>718706517
Seems to be constantly drunk

>>718702567 (OP)
>doing a new plinkett video to complain about being an old man and hating kids

>>718713312
I don't think that's a fair assessment and it's more that he's annoyed how many people champion the prequels simply because they are better than the sequels, when in reality who gives a shit which is the smellier turd?

I don't really agree with him at all though, his prequel takes are kinda bad. He is right about many things in the original plinkett reviews but really stupidly wrong about others and didn't try to meet the movie on its own terms (particularly TPM but all of them really). Which is fine. He didn't want any space politics but I actually found those parts fun as a kid. I don't think he ever admits enough that whether he liked the movies or not, the prequels had a weird heart to them and genuinely were a creative new era and that's infinitely better than X-wings again. But also I really don't blame him anyways, once a property crosses a line of shit for you it barely matters how much worse it gets. It's all just functionally the same level of disinterest afterwards even when they do something as retarded as the Obi Wan show.

>>718703225
botw and review have never been better, but hitb is almost unwatchable. the new = bad shtick has gotten so fucking old. that superman review was so embarrassing.

>>718705456
I didn't even watch their review of that. Did they actually liked it?
>>718713190
>They were always good.
They really weren't
>>718713312
The opinion is right.
The prequels are garbage because they're a product of Lucas excessive authority which led to people not questioning him and lack of other creative inputs from key people.
They're bad due to lack of talent and failure of execution.
The sequels are bad because there a cynical product cashing on nostalgia with no real artistic vision behind it.

>>718706517
Probably the funniest of the semi regulars.
Jack can be pretty funny when drunk or be a really good straight men to everyone else's antics..josh is unfunny, awkward and excessive faggy even by their liberal boomer mid America standards.
Jessi hasn't been in an episode for so long I forgot how she was

>>718702567 (OP)
>first 20 minutes is them complaining about random bullshit that has nothing to do with the video

>new Plinkett video
>it's shit

Talk about having no integrity Disney!

Oh hey Max Landis do you want to be in a few videos so I can desperately try to get my foot in the door with Hollywood?

>>718704809
I doubt it. He seems like one of the most boring men alive.

>>718722567
weren't they making fun of him without Max realizing it?

I always liked that one canadian guy but from what I hear he won some award some no more of him I guess.

>>718722631
Like when Mike was defending that film he released because he got to see the working version of the script and said it was really good? All while Jay looks uncomfortable? Or gloating about how much he was asking Max things about his dad while Jay looked bored? Mike clearly saw this as an opportunity and they unlisted all the videos after the sexual harassment became visible with Landis. Don't worry though Mike bitches about that in this new video too how sexual abuse isn't real since he is attached to both Landis and Roiland now.

>>718706457
>>718711736
>>718713020
>>718713405
>>718713312
I think Mike just wanted to point out that the canon of the MAIN star wars movies never set a lot of things in stone for the canon of the Jedi Mythos. He was fine with the Acolyte discussing more about what the Jedi might do more as a political/religious cult and he didn't mind the "destruction" of the sanctity of the jedi as a pure warrior of good in the main canon of the disney canon.

Mike has previously shown to be disdainful of people that put canon and franchises on a pedestal and has even apologized for diminishing the interest people have in their own franchises, being incredibly invested in Star Trek himself but he is still willing to allow writers and new producers to try new things IF they actually have something to say or show, which was not the case for the Acolyte.

>>718720357
Worse, making a Plinkett video to shit on the prequels again while somehow defending the Acolyte of all things. Like, the prequels weren't good, but don't turn around and tell me that abomination was somehow better.

>>718710620
I still shake my head when I see people defending MGS 4 to this day
The MGS game that is most like a movie, and simultaneously the one with the worst story
It's impressive how hard it fucked up
That was the game where I learned not to trust reviewers. Absolutely no one has it at the top of their lists nowadays but you ask all those people and they gave it 9/10s back then

Plinkett videos used to be fun for a full movie analysis. Now it's here for Mike to demand superiority on his media opinions because if Plinkett says something then he's double right.

>>718722787
>unlisted the landis vids
spineless

>>718702567 (OP)
They were one of the only people to not suck off alien romulus which was shockingly bad but somehow not the worst pure alien media which would come later via alien earth.

I'd still take episode 7 (I forget what it's called) and The Last Jedi over any of the prequels, including the one that wasn't nearly as bad as the others (Revenge of the Sith)

Prequeltards got too uppity with the anti-Disney memes. The sheer disappointment that was felt when Phantom Menace released will never be matched by anything else in media within my lifetime.

>>718722513
One of the appeals of Plinkett was the off the wall dark humor paired with I'm detailed and well founded movie critique.
That type of humor is forbidden in YouTube and there's like 300 different faggots that went to film school that can give detailed critiques.
Plinkett was phenomenon of earlier YouTube, unique for being way more deep than any of the contemporary critics that mostly recounted the plot and made some silly jokes here and there
There's a reason they had basically retired the format. It wasn't ever gonna work again.

>>718702637
my name's not jay kid

>>718706517
Nate Higgins is my favorite guest by far.

>>718703225
It's just so bizarre. I don't even think it's lazy of them it's just so weird to not fully watch a movie that you plan to review. It's like something a game journalist would do.

>>718723107
Force awakens.

>>718723250
You are acting like these guys were ever very smart or competent or had any shred of integrity. Space Cop should have told you plenty about who you were watching all along.

>>718720357
while acting like he's some manly man when he's an obese 50 year old still bitching about star wars. these tards cant even sit through the fucking minecraft movie but will post a video for some money anyways.

>>718705456
Incorrect. He thinks Andor is good.
He said that new generations will think Acolyte is good like they think prequels are good.

I can see the appeal of Mike's point on The Acolyte trying to deconstruct the jedi but KOTOR 2 did that actually well, whatever her name is might have tried something unique but failed horribly.

>>718722787
Remember when they went to conventions to insult everyone there? Then desperately began sucking up to certain people at those conventions when there was the possibility of connections to Hollywood? Superiority complex with intense desperation of getting noticed is their brand.

>>718722946
I wonder how big the check from Disney was

>>718722787
they were in high on life
also were gloating about their justin roiland drawing literally a month before he got kicked off all of his own projects

>>718722567
I remember them having Landis before the scandal.
I actually liked Landis's participation and some of the stuff he made.
I remember his first appearance had a positive reception, I believe because he's the one that introduced Neil Breen to the crew. It was kinda surreal watching everyone say he was unfunny and terrible after the rapes came to light.
I totally understand not liking the guy. Even before the rapes he came off as the archetypical socal hipster douche, but pretending that episode wasn't great and that he had a huge part in it being great is ridiculous.
It's like when current leftists all say Joss Whedon was never good and never a real feminist when 10 years ago they worshipped his feet and bald head.

Did you rike it?

>>718713190
so it's people who think being contrarians make them high IQ

>>718723107
Rogue One too

>>718702567 (OP)
Why do I keep seeing the guy on the right? He's actually pretty cute

>>718723586
The easiest way for them to get into Hollywood would be to make a good video and post it on their channel. They can't, and have openly said how hard it is to make a movie, so they will forever be critics. Their takes are so predictable now that I only tune in every once in a while. I mostly just go back and watch their old videos.
They should lean heavily into Previously Recorded. Have Rich showing Mike games like the Conan "Clueless Gamer" bit. I think that would explode their channel.

>>718703225
>zoomers legit mad that people think "liking" things ironically is retarded

>>718724024
not really. Rambled way too long at the start and didn't get to the point. About fifteen minutes in I closed it and went back to watching TF2 gameplay tutorials for Spy.

>>718723118
most long form youtube videos are attention scams though, they are insipid, but you'll only know it after you have already watched most of it

>>718702567 (OP)
Rogue One broke them

>>718724024
it's ok, the fact that it's making midwit zoomers rage makes it better

>>718706517
Yeah seems like a nice guy with a wacky streak who'd probably bring some kind of fun or weird item to a party, tho I guess that's sort of everyone at RLM since they all like weird stuff.

>>718702567 (OP)
I don't know it looks fine, if there's an option to add a green filter or w/e that'd be nice, as long as the script wasn't changed and the mechanics are polished then it's great for people who never played the original. I haven't played it yet. I don't even know if it's out yet or not. Now I'm gonna add even more hours to games I've already spent hundreds and even thousands of hours on...

>>718722878
>>718722946
He was doing a little bit of trolling. The criticism he's received for his Prequels criticisms has been "NEW BAD OLD GOOD", so he decided to put that argument on his head. By defending Andor and Acolyte, he's forcing the retards who spammed him with "NEW BAD OLD GOOD" to stand in a position where they can be hit with the same useless criticism and seethe when their single tactic is used against them.

>>718724643
that implies mike is smart
and hes actually a retard

>>718723874
>but pretending that episode wasn't great
No need to pretend. It fucking sucked. Rich Evans giving an awkward high five to Landis because there is no energy. The fact you are caught on leftists in relation to this probably says a lot though.

>>718724686
he can dish it out and absolutely cannot take it. remember him begging people to say nice things about him to shatner after the guy wanted nothing to do with mike

>>718724375
Yes, they've pretty awful.
There's still a lot more decent ones then back then though, which is my point.
It's not unique anymore.

>>718724870
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mike being moments away from tears at the end of the boomer video was the sweetest schadenfreude.

>>718724265
>B-B-BUT ZOOME-
You are watching a channel that gave up on creating short films in favor of clickbait, openly admitting they are clickbait, and not even watching the movies they talk about.

>>718702567 (OP)
Did it come out? I didnt get any email from BB about my collectors edition being ready

>>718724686
And then Mike tortured Rich and Jay for 40min for laughing at him this.
RLM is just Mike's demiurgic domain over his employees

>>718723107
>The sheer disappointment that was felt when Phantom Menace released will never be matched by anything else in media within my lifetime.
Nice bait nigger, you probably weren't even born when Phantom Menace released. No one I know, not 50+ year old boomers, millennials who were the prime audience, or children who grew up with it, has ever been less than ambivalent about that movie. All three were box office successes, the reviews ranged from positive to mediocre, and the multimedia properties around them were huge successes. Who the fuck would be disappointed when a 90s Star Wars film was like every other 90s big-budget sci-fi film, dumb, action-packed, with gorgeous visuals, and great music?

>>718724686
why did he even think rich was going to come to his defense?

>>718723250
They didn't even plan to watch it though, they were just legit curious

>>718724765
>No need to pretend. It fucking sucked.
It's fine to not have liked it, Sam way there were always people that never liked Whedon. The issue is that he was widely praised and liked. Suddenly after the scandals, nobody seems to like him and now affirm they never did. What happened?
>The fact you are caught on leftists in relation to this probably says a lot though.
I'm pointing out a pattern, I dunno why that bothers you so much.

>>718713312
Except Mike literally said the Prequels are better by virtue of them being made by someone with an actual vision. He said that even if he dislikes the prequels, he actually remembers what happens in them when he can't remember anything about the sequels.

>>718724987
jay's classic line "I GUESS" while shrugging since he knows mike is not going to let him talk

>>718706517
He reminds me of the My Name Is Earl guy and it's cracking me up every time he shows up in a video.

>>718725019
>huge successes.
And? Force Awakens was huge financial success too. Does that mean it was good?

>>718704809
Anon, he’s gay and more than happy being the same soft white boi in everything

>>718725109
then dont do a fucking video since they have skipped plenty of movies in the past where they didnt finish them. they still wanted to make their bucks off of it.

>>718725215
While I agree, it's their salt on the line and anyone who takes them seriously for movie reviews or criticisms is missing the point of the channel.

>>718724765

mike clearly was the only one super into having max there since he saw it as a chance for himself

>>718725312
>the point of the channel
To make money off braindead takes on popular media?

>>718723107
Shit taste.

>>718724201
Rogue One is literally only good because of Death Troopers. Rewatching it after Andor just reminds me of how fucking shitty it is.

>>718725214
Gay men are sex pests though....

>>718725312
The point used to be their short films. Old videos even bring up how much people hated Half in the Bag and they stuck to it anyways. Having some influence over the industry seemed to be the goal.

>>718725459
Andor would not exist if RO weren't met with the reception it did, it signaled that people wanted grittier stuff.

>>718725480
>sex pests
you mean your currently seated president and 75% of the posts on /v/
the bullshit morality angle doesnt work when this is the site you are posting on anon you need to work on your concern trolling

>>718725547
Whoa faggot, are you coming on to me??

>>718725485
>how much people hated Half in the Bag
Kinda surreal in retrospect.
People hated Half in the Bag and just wanted more Plinkett. Nobody seemed to like Jay either.
Today, nobody cares about Plinkett anymore and Jay can do shows on his own.

>>718725413
Yeah, I thought the majority of them being ugly and their constant self depreciating humor tipped people off but apparently that's not enough?? Their channel is a comedy show to me, not a review panel.
>>718725485
If even people in the industry are too dumb to realize they are not qualified to have any say then I'm even more glad film is in the rut. It's like Nintendo listening to /v/ on developing their new games.

>>718725547
I'm literally an incel. By definition I cant be a sex pest.
Gay men on the other hand have single handedly infected their own and black communities with STDs.

>>718724686
fuckin' hell, I've never seen this before.

>>718725624
hey mike why did you unlist the max landis vids?

Rich is gonna kill Mike any day now

>>718707240
>Make a channel based around entirely one thing
>Have to shoehorn it into literally anything so you can make a video
These kinds of channels exist on the same tier as the ones that open random funko pops

>>718725547
>someone mentions fags as sex pests
>anon has a meltdown
Is there something you wanna tell class, anon?

>>718724935
>Mike being moments away from tears at the end of the boomer video was the sweetest schadenfreude.

what video?

>>718725547
BUT ANON THE TROONS! THE TROOOOONS! HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE TROONS? THEY ARE IN EVERY THREAD ANON! THEY ARE EVERYWHERE!

>>718725696
>"meltdown"
>last reply literally was someone admitting to be an incel
You have as much self awareness as Mike.

>>718725684
Mike is the only reason people think Rich is a Renaissance Man, and that's due to scripting and editing. Rich's foray into let's play revealed his true nature.

>>718725718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF28Zednl10
The part I'm talking about begins at 18:44.

Stop criticizing RLM and complain about troons and fags like a good goy and make this resemble every other thread

>>718725794
Well, that's not me so I dunno how that's relevant.
Are you a faggot or not?

>>718711736
>when he started railing about how young people these days are retarded for liking the Prequels, I decided I might actually not really care about Mike's opinions anymore
the first Plinkett review of Phantom Menace literally starts with him saying that.

>>718724686
Thinnest skin. This why he handles the editing on so many videos?

>>718725815
>Rich's foray into let's play revealed his
It was bad, people were more excited to see Jay than the actual hosts.

>>718725815
It's only 5 years, but they look a lot younger.
>Rich's foray into let's play revealed his true nature.
I never watched previously recorded but apparently Rich came off as an overly sensitive fag in it. Or something

>>718725815
>Rich's foray into let's play revealed his true nature.
His what

>>718725815
to be fair, Shatner's beef with Mike is like a fanboy having an unfortunately bad meeting with one of his idols. It would be devastating to anyone, especially since Mike clearly didn't mean to offend him and clearly feels powerless to correct the record. I sympathize with Mike about this incident

>>718722196
>so embarrassing.
So RLM? Never understood why people watched these old faggots.

>>718726014
He's a boring unfunny midwit, his takes make /v/ seem smart.

>>718725908
>the first Plinkett review of Phantom Menace literally starts with him saying that.
The difference is he was supposed to be making a video about the current state of Star Wars, but instead he needed 10 minutes to shit on the prequels again even though the prequels have nothing to do with current Disney Wars

>>718722959
>The MGS game that is most like a movie, and simultaneously the one with the worst story
The ending is pure Kino, stfu.

>>718726015
Anyone with half a brain knows that Shatner isn't the one on the Twitter, it's just someone Shatner's PR guy hired to supervise the account. It's like retards who think there's some sassy firecrotch handling Wendy's tweets, or Sonic the Hedgehog is actually running his own account with his sick bants.

>>718726135
20 minutes of a genuinely amazing final fight doesn't compensate for the absolute dogshit before and after it.

>>718726176
>who think there's some sassy firecrotch handling Wendy's tweets
Iirc it was actually a chick, but she was just okay looking.
I'd kill for a sassy freckled red haired cutie

>>718726289
>20 minutes of a genuinely amazing final fight doesn't compensate for the absolute dogshit before and after it.
It does actually.

>>718702567 (OP)
How did he pronounce Δ?

>>718726289
mfer really acting like playing as Metal Gear REX fighting RAY wasn't the hypest moment in the damn franchise

>>718726353
Does that mean Halo: Reach is now one of the greatest games of all time because of Lone Wolf?

>>718726481
Ocelot sniggering like a retard while running away to get into his mech was dogshit.

>>718726551
>Does that mean Halo: Reach is now one of the greatest games of all time because of Lone Wolf?
No because it's halo and halo is crap.

>>718722212
>I didn't even watch their review of that. Did they actually liked it?
it's from the recent plinket starwars vid, he just makes the argument that people love the prequels now and hate the Acolyte, but the Acolyte does a bunch of shit the prequels did and people hate on it for no real sound reason.
he says rightfully that Andor is the best one and it's held back by the fact that it's starwars.
he ends the video saying star wars is shit and he's not gonna watch any of it anymore.

>>718725639
But Nintendo should listen to us, Kirby air riders is what we have wanted for decades.

>>718726551
>Ocelot sniggering like a retard while running away to get into his mech was dogshit.
that was after blowing up RAY anon, he runs to Arsenal Gear while laughing at Old Snake limping due to a broken arm

>>718725547
Epstein only counts if you mention Bill Clinton instead of Trump and Dershowitz according to this board

>>718725180
>And? Force Awakens was huge financial success too. Does that mean it was good?
No, but pretending it was some earth-shattering disappointment is retarded. Nothing, not the critical reviews, audience scores, box office returns, or the longevity and lifespan of all the merch, supports the idea that Star Wars fans hated The Phantom Menace. This idea that Star Wars fans "reevaluated" the prequels and said they were good is retarded because they were never considered bad by anyone other than critics mad it wasn't high art and diehard original trilogy boomers.

>>718702567 (OP)
>So Jay, what did you think of, Metal Gear Solid Δ: Snake Eater?

Not enough Snake Eating Mike.

>>718726663
Old /v/ (2004-2007) has amazing opinions, new /v/ (2007-2010) has dumb opinions but are worth at least listening to since their ideas can be refined, and cancer /v/ (2011+) has nothing but dogshit ideas that no one should listen to.

>>718726718
Isn't Arsenal Gear a mech, or is it too submarine-like to count as a mech?

>>718726643
but he will be back next week to talk about whatever new bullshit star trek is doing

>>718726643
>and he's not gonna watch any of it anymore.
I feel like he said that already.
He's right though. I'm on the same boat, Star Wars had ran it's course for me.
People say Andor is good but I'll never watch it. The whole IP is overplayed as hell at this point.

>>718726856
Star Trek is his comfort franchise. He can't walk away from it. It's like /v/ trying to get away from the Fallout show, or /co/ trying to get away from Tamers12345. It doesn't matter how fucking gay shit gets, retards who have a comfort franchise will keep crawling back to it.

>>718723107
I can tolerate someone being forgiving of TFA in a vacuum, but TLJ is just a fucking mess. The entire salt Hoth sequence at the end systematically dismantles the movie's own themes and leaves it with fucking nothing. The only thing that elevates TLJ is that the next movie was somehow even worse.

>>718726850
>Isn't Arsenal Gear a mech, or is it too submarine-like to count as a mech?
The Arsenal Gears (the giant flying fortress in 2, and the giant sea carrier in 4) are more like mobile command centers/supercarriers. They all have one of the Patriot AI supercomputers inside of them and are defended by an army of Metal Gears

>>718726985
I feel the same about dragon ball, there isn’t anything else to explore except increasing the numbers.

>>718725019
Wrong. I was in Middle School when the prequels came out and we would all make fun of Anakin for being a whiny loser.

>>718726817
They were considered bad by "Star Wars fans" though, which were a very specific type of person.
Star Wars always had mainstream appeal but it also had dedicated nerds that liked it more than anyone else. And these people hated the prequels.
It's completely retarded to pretend otherwise because the evidence is there.
From Spaced to Something Awful, nerds complained about those films.

>>718723107
>The sheer disappointment that was felt when Phantom Menace released
I thought I was too old to be browsing here still, but I was a kid when this came out and thought it was the coolest shit ever.
how old are you lol?

>>718727070
I played Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and NV and I never watched the show. It came out during a slew of god awful adaptations on streaming services, so I wasn't inclined to even give it a shot and nothing I heard secondhand gave me reason to reconsider it.

>>718727210
I was 8 when Episode 2 came out and I fell asleep in the theater. I genuinely did and still do not understand the appeal of it.

>>718727070
So what you're saying is that he's the consumer he kept making fun of with Nerd Crew

>>718727147
Super really tired me out. Dragonball became like Avatar to me, I just consume the porn that people still make of it.
Star wars doesn't even get that

>>718725815
I can't tell if Mike is acting or if he's actually genuinely on the verge of tears

>>718702637
>>718723119
Two retards trying to be funny

I think despite their poor foresight of pre-planning and story structure, the sequels are good and deserve to be held in the same regard as the prequels and (maybe) the original trilogy. Yes, even Episode IX

>>718727423
Dragon Ball porn falls into an uncanny valley for me since the style is so distinctive. Kinda like Simpsons porn.

>>718703225
>that incredibly lazy Minecraft movie video
What's with this old internet reviewers pulling shit like this? You're getting payed to watch movies or play games you faggot, watch the whole thing and finish the goddamn game. It's specially egregious for movie reviews. Like your fatass is gonna be doing anything of worth with the 30 minutes you saved walking out of the movie. And of course you still want the viral early views after half-assing your fake job

>>718727412
If you have not picked up on it yet, all they bitch about are things they are guilty of doing

>>718727312
Episode 2 is so burdened with heavy exposition about the state of the galaxy and the brewing civil war that it does get very dry in the middle. But it spawned the greatest of the EU products, the Clone Wars was THE hottest shit for vidya, comics, and books. Shit was so fucking cool. Disney completely fucked the Resistance / First Order war to the point nobody is interested in it at all, even the cartoon they created of it was canceled after just two seasons

>>718727303
Twisted metal might be the least shit out of the vidya game adaptations, and even then they fucked up calypso and had to ape a ton of shit from mad max.

>>718702567 (OP)
Fucking spineless fence-sitting faggots

>>718727565
I can't relate but I can understand.
That style awakens something primal in me, maybe it was seeing Bulma get sexually assaulted on a weekly basis at such young age

>>718727412
Nerd Crew makes fun of "ironic" nerds who are soulless corpo shills. Mike is a genuine consumer nerd who buys useless memorabilia because he gets a tickle in his pickle owning Baby Bink dolls for whatever reason.

>>718727460
He's trying to act like he's being hyperbolic but he was genuinely teetering on the edge. It wasn't until he got to the end of explaining to Jay everything what happened that he realized how absurd the situation had become, and that he'd honestly NEVER get alone time with Shatner over mundane stupid mistakes, and that's a gut punch for him.

>>718727607
I haven't seen season 2. How did they fuck up Calypso?

>>718727312
Meh, I was 6 and I had no problem at least holding out to the big action scenes at the end. Sounds like an attention span issue. Not to say that it wasn't a shit movie, to be clear.

>>718727502
All three main characters are actually good ideas, but they have very little chemistry with each other due to plot structure. Also, Rey needed to be more unhinged, actually convince me that she could turn to the dark side.

>>718726817
I was actually alive and an actual person at the time (20 years old) when the phantom menace came out. Yes it made money and yes everyone saw it but no one liked it very much witin fan circles. Even general audiences were luke warm on it, most people thought it was silly, strange, boring and didn't feel like starwars. Kids loved it but kids watch garbage. All you need to know is that after the phantom menace George quickly course corrected no more jar jar, no more bad kid actors kids, an adult man playing anikin so padme wasn't a pedo, cut back on the slapstick, etc..

I'm amazed by how many people who watched this are confused by what Mike meant with the Acolyte. He's challenging prequelfags to explain why the prequels were good for being different while the Acolyte is bad.

>>718727232
>They were considered bad by "Star Wars fans"
No they weren't. Hence why for years, Star Wars fans were enjoying prequel era shit like the games, clone wars tv series, and all the merchandise. Compare that to the sequels, where pretty much everything to do with it was ignored.
>it had dedicated nerds
Yes, I already addressed the "diehard original trilogy boomers" in my post. Good thing the prequels spawned far more fans of Star Wars than it lost with these people; hence, the OG fans had to flock to YouTube and the internet to make their mark before the younger generation of fans could say anything about it. In the end, there was a net gain of Star Wars fans with the prequels compared to the net loss that occurred with the sequels, demonstrating which was actually better received.

>>718727850
Poe and Finn were great as a pair in TFA so separating them and not letting that friendship grow was a huge mistake for the other movies. Granted, TFA being just a rehash of ANH was a mistake in the first place.

>>718727850
>All three main characters are actually good ideas
Ehhhh. Rey without the Palpatine backstory is just a random force-sensitive scav who lucks into getting involved with the fate of the galaxy. Poe Dameron is just a very standard cocky flyboy space jockey, and Finn could have been interesting if he was actually struggling against his programming as a stormtrooper, but it turns out he was just a janitor all along and had no actual mental programming to overcome.

>>718727502
Episode IX is genuinely indefensible. I can entertain a little cope about VII or VIII, but there is truly nothing redeemable about IX.

>NOOOO why won't they review marvel product!?
>NOOOO why won't they say prequel good!?
Jesus christ is there any blood left in your bodies or is it all sóy

>>718727883
>Kids loved it but kids watch garbage.
Then it did its job, you retard. The original Star Wars films were made for children too, anon. Fucking Alec Guinness was embarrassed to be associated with such a childish franchise. It is literally made for children. If the children like it, then it doesn't matter what you think. I'm sure children loved watching Han, Luke, and Leia all die in the sequels.

>>718727913
>No they weren't
Yes they were.
>Hence why for years, Star Wars fans were enjoying prequel era shit like the games, clone wars tv series, and all the merchandise.
Again, casualization. Fans of Star Wars, as in the things that existed already didn't like it.
>Yes, I already addressed the "diehard original trilogy boomers" in my post. Good thing the prequels spawned far more fans of Star Wars than it lost with these people
I never thought I'd see a pro newfag opinion on 4chan.

>>718727907
Most people watch, but they do not listen. Or, worse, they just put it on in the background for white noise without actually comprehending what's being stated. Non-retards know what Mike was doing with this latest video and appreciate him for it. Retards (the vast majority of people) are asshurt by it.

>>718723107
TPM was just the Darth Maul fight for like 90% of people, I am absolutely certain of this

>>718728108
>Yes they were
According to whom? 5 youtube critics and forum nerds? No one I grew up with ever hated any of the films, they were simple and fun entertainment for boys.

>>718727907
Probably because nobody attacks Acolyte for being different, they attack it for having an incomprehensible plot, bland and one-dimensional characters, and stupid pandering lesbian witch force cults. Mike created a strawman, nobody understands what he's trying to say because he generalizes every criticism of the Acolyte into being "different things bad!"

>>718728145
I only have nostalgia for prequel media because of playing the first Lego Star Wars games as a kid. Even as a kid I could never really get into the prequel movies themselves.

>>718728145
No one I knew actually enjoyed the movies at fucking all, just the entended universe extra media stuff.
t. Born in 1998

>>718728145
The Naboo starfighter battle was pretty popular as well, and so was the pod racing
>tfw we will never get another Jedi Starfighter or podracing game

>>718728103
>supports the idea that Star Wars fans hated The Phantom Menace.
Star wars fans didn't like it though and children would be happy watching paint dry if it shot lazers and had explosions. Given that many many years later after these kids never had the same attachment nor even close to the number of super fans as the young kids who went and saw the OG trilogy just goes to show how bad those movies are.

>>718728226
>they attack it for having an incomprehensible plot, bland and one-dimensional characters, and stupid pandering lesbian witch force cults.
So just like the prequels then, sans the space lesbians. His point wasn't that the Acolyte is good but that it's the same kind of bad as the prequels.

>>718728226
The plot is that a Jedi lied to a Force-sensitive child about what happened to her mother, which set up the dominoes to fall when that apprentice would fall to the Dark Side. It's an example of how the Council, in trying to prevent evil, inadvertently creates their own problems. The characters aren't bland and one-note, they're archetypes which helps reduce the need to extrapolate their characterization, the time of which can instead be spent on advancing the narrative. The pandering lesbian witch force cults are lore-friendly because Sidious used the Force to inseminate Schmee to create Anakin.

You're just a retarded faggot seething.

>>718728094
Yes.
Yes.

>>718728462
>Given that many many years later after these kids never had the same attachment nor even close to the number of super fans as the young kids who went and saw the OG trilogy just goes to show how bad those movies are.
Anon how fucking divorced from reality can you be? Episode 2 and 3 and all the EU content surrounding them spawned literally millions of SW superfans that kept the franchise going strong all the way into the 2010s when the Disney purchase happened

>>718706517
Hi Tim!

>>718706517
Good, funny at times, A+ tier on the rotating chair tier list.

>>718728221
>According to whom?
Culture and reports at the time
>5 youtube critics and forum nerds?
It was widely reported at the time. I already gave you Spaced which you ignored, do you want me to go catch other references in pop culture at the time? Everyone, from Fairy Odd parents to late night show hosts made fun of those films. Why can't you accept basic facts?
Why are you so pro new faggotry? Fags have enjoyed Fallout 76, 4 and the garbage Tv show more than any of the classic or New Vegas. Do you think it's superior? Do you think Fallout should be that?

The Prequels are carried in the midst of normies by hype moments and aura, as the zoomers say, which a lot of Disney era SW lacks

>>718728469
>So just like the prequels then, sans the space lesbians. His point wasn't that the Acolyte is good but that it's the same kind of bad as the prequels.
that's not what you said in your last post, you fucking retarded RLM shill. At least stick to your goddamn script
>>718728531
>i-it's the same story because I said so!
Pointing out how much of the story was borrowed from the Prequels doesn't make the Acolyte look better anon, it just proves Disney can't even do a competent ripoff of bad movies and somehow created something even worse

>>718728531
shut the fuck up

>>718728531
Prequeltrannies on suicide watch

>>718728761
>Pointing out how much of the story was borrowed from the Prequels doesn't make the Acolyte look better anon, it just proves Disney can't even do a competent ripoff of bad movies and somehow created something even worse
How did they create something worse? Again,
>>718726643
>he just makes the argument that people love the prequels now and hate the Acolyte, but the Acolyte does a bunch of shit the prequels did and people hate on it for no real sound reason.
Make an argument instead of bitching, or else shut the fuck up.

>>718728787
I accept your concession.

>>718728462
>Star wars fans didn't like it though and children would be happy watching paint dry if it shot lazers and had explosions.
These are the same people moron. Take RLM, they all grew up with the OG Star Wars, it's basic nostalgia. You grow older, you try to rationalize the old shit you grew up with as being objectively better, but most of the time, it isn't.
>Given that many many years later after these kids never had the same attachment nor even close to the number of super fans as the young kids who went and saw the OG trilogy just goes to show how bad those movies are.
What? The prequels are beloved. The reason so many videos are now being made about why the prequels were never bad is because all those "super fans" you claim don't exist have YouTube channels now and want to change the astroturfed anti-prequel narrative. The sequels copied all the superficial elements of the original trilogy and tried to pander to Gen Z but Gen Z grew up with the prequels and thought the less ambitious scope of the sequels was fucking lame, hence why they failed. The original trilogy fans never mattered whatsoever because, while loud online, they didn't bring in enough money to actually matter in the scope of things.

>>718728890
>>718728920
samefag
seethe
mald
cope
dilate

>>718727850
Finn is a great concept, but they let Boyega put way too much personality into the role and then they ended up doing nothing with the character.
Poe is nothing special on a conceptual level. Just a quippy, hot-headed pilot dude, carried entirely by Oscar Isaac's charisma, which wears thin the longer he's on screen.
Rey is vacuous. She's just sort of good at everything and sort of naive. They try to act like she has things going on, but it's all paper thin. She's just a walking plot device and Daisy Ridley has zero charisma to prop up the character.
More interactions between the three would've just helped distract from the glaring problems of Boyega eating his character alive and Ridley having no character at all.

>>718728930
>astroturfed anti-prequel narrative
>while describing the astro-turfed pro prequel narrative
Lmao

I genuinely don't understand how people pretend the prequels were good. I should be prime nostalgia age for then and even I got bored watching them when I was a kid.

>>718702567 (OP)
Do people still watch these two retarded Democrat pedophiles?

>>718728754
>hype moments and aura
That part in TFA where masked Kylo turns on his lightsaber in the forest (which was in every fucking trailer) was big aura, but then he just loses the fight somehow.

>>718728890
>How did they create something worse? Again,
I already did. >>718728226
You said it
>d-doesn't count!
So now we're here, and you're exposed for being an RLM shill who can't even form coherent points in an argument and just changes the goalposts over and over from "nooooo you're just saying different bad without specific reasons why it's bad!" then "noooo all those specific reasons it's bad don't count because I said so!" Literally nothing will satisfy you because Mike said "PREQUELS BAD, ACOLYTE GOOD" so now your NPC-nigger brain will literally bend itself backwards to justify everything he said as your new evangelical canon. Faggot.

>>718729051
It was the Star Wars they watched as a child.

>>718729102
Brother the sequels are utter dogshit but TFA's final forest lightsabre duel is absolute kino and virtually the only engaging moment of the ST entirely

>>718729109
Link me in the video where Mike said Acolyte good

>>718728720
>Culture and reports at the time
So, "trust me bro" basically?
>It was widely reported at the time. I already gave you Spaced which you ignored, do you want me to go catch other references in pop culture at the time? Everyone, from Fairy Odd parents to late night show hosts made fun of those films. Why can't you accept basic facts?
Because children didn't fucking care, and they outnumbered the OG fans like 3:1. No matter how much you cope and try to rationalize this as not mattering, the majority of the fanbase (the larger group, i.e., the kids) liked them. Oh sure, you can claim that as Art they were objectively bad, but you can't claim Star Wars fans hated them. Problem is, once you start arguing about the quality of the films themselves, you can easily start tearing apart the OG trilogy as well since it was mocked and derided by plenty of people as well.

>>718729004
Yeah, TFA is very JJ Abrams, which is fine and fun when you watch it but then you kinda think about it and it doesn't really hold up. Specially in repeated viewings. His new (lol) Star Trek was just like that.
Of all the stories set after Episode VI, Thrawn was the better one and even it has problems.

>>718705456
His argument is that he isn't a hack retard who killed starwars because his reaction to the prequels was natural and generational. He implies that millenials are just as bitter and childish as he was except the target is now the acolyte.

He would rather live in this fantasy and defend woke propaganda as a normal generational shift that millenials just don't get than admit that he was probably the most important voice behind the destruction of starwars.

>>718729162
But it was also the star wars I watched as a child. Sure didn't do anything for me.

>>718729245
If one (1) random person had the ability to destroy Star Wars, then Star Wars wasn't a good franchise in the first place.

>>718729173
I remember saying back in 2015 that Finn looked good with a lightsaber, but they were never going to let him have it again. Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened.

>>718728570
Anon, it's not even close to the fervor of what OG fans had. Also starwars was kept afloat by merch and its massive control of shelf space, a reputablely good cartoon show and a good rpg video game. Everything and anything that could be starwars was starwars. Entire toy sections were dedicated to starwars stuff.
>b...b...but that shows an interest in it!
Yes and no. A good strategy to get people to buy your crap over other crap is to hog the shelf space, people are more apt to choose the thing with large shelf representation over something that has little. It's a good marketing strategy if you got cash to burn at the start.
I worked retail at the time of Phantom menace and boy howdy, let me tell you how much Starwars merch flooded the shelves. We downsized other popular things like Legos, GI Joe, Nerf and others to make more room.

>>718727492
Make that three.

>>718729102
I did say that the Disney era lacks those moments, not that it’s devoid. The “Traitor!” Scene comes to mind as a minor example.

>>718729202
>So, "trust me bro" basically?
How many references do you want? Give me a reasonable number and a promise that after I deliver you admit you were wrong and is a stupid faggot and I'll do it.
>Because children didn't fucking care, and they outnumbered the OG fans like 3:1
I don't give a fuck about children, anon.
I don't care that they like WoW that has gay tranny gnome dragons, DnD with magical wheelchairs and Fallout with zero thematic resonance. Star Wars fans didn't like the prequels, the fact that the younger generation did is a condemnation of them.
If you like gay DnD and gay WoW and all forms of new media that's recycled old media but gay and lame, please feel free to do so. Just don't pretend that's laudable or that I should praise it.

>>718729047
I don't think you understand what "astroturfed" means. Something is astroturfed when it's forced and artificial and does not represent the true shape of things. A bunch of zoomer autists making videos about how something they grew up with and genuinely like isn't garbage like everyone is saying, is not astroturfed. It's basic math that the zoomer Star Wars fans outnumber the OG ones.

>>718729102
>>718729173
>>718729402
Is TFA the only one of the trilogy that has any "aura" as the kids say?

APOLOGIZE

>>718728531
I can’t buy that retarded shit with the Jedi. The reason the old republic games worked is due to the Jedi actually making sense from their point of view. Stringing a mind wiped revan along to find the star forge, not wanting to immediately join the mandalorian wars and wanting to deport the exile were all decisions that focused on minimizing death. What the fuck does the lie in the acolyte achieve other than making every Jedi look like sith?

>open Metal Gear Solid thread
>it's actually about e-celebs and Star Wars movies
The most Reddit thread I've seen today.

>>718729313
It wasn't 1 person, it was hundreds of thousands of not millions. 1 random person spread a bunch of dunning kruger shit to millions of NPCs and got them to hate the creator. That's how all bad social and political forces begin, 1 idiot and a microphone.

>>718702567 (OP)
>what happened to star wars!?!?
>I mean, sure I defended force awakens and called all sequel trilogy haters incels chuds
>sure I consumed all the slop
>sure I bought all the merch
>sure I've only had good things to say about all the aforementioned slop
>BUT I NEVER EXPECTED THIS!!!!!!

>>718729501
Well Rogue One’s been getting some revisionism in that regard lately, though this is mainly due to Andor bringing it back into the public consciousness

>>718729465
The reason these videos are suspected of astroturfing is that they're all being submitted in the same format with the same talking points over the same medium at the same time in conjunction with new Star Wars products trying to take advantage of material present in the prequels in a possible attempt to target an audience born after 2005 who has no idea why the prequels were ridiculed in the first place and are too ignorant to understand why these prequel stans are paid fucktards.

>>718729313
You gravely underestimate what poison words and poison ideology can do to a society. Marxism has been bringing empires to their knees for more than a century, and it's just words in a book that one particularly stupid and spoiled self-hating trust fund kiddie thought was the answer to all of mankind's problems.

>>718729451
>How many references do you want?
None, because it doesn't fucking matter how many fat retards you find shitting on them, the truth is that those people are a tiny minority of the fanbase and, thus, I don't give a shit about their opinions.
>don't give a fuck about children, anon.
Then you don't understand why the prequels are liked and never will. You can only cope.
>starts ranting about WoW
What the fuck are you talking about? Zoomers don't play WoW retard.
>the fact that the younger generation did is a condemnation of them.
It was the younger generation that made Star Wars popular in the first place; condemn them and you condemn yourself.

>>718729501
TFA gets a lot of dickriding despite being a complete rehash +a Scooby doo hallway chase. It's still high production shit

>>718729465
What made the prequel hate astroturfed then, retard?

>>718729554
If one (1) random person is enough to persuade millions of people with their side, and a massive well-funded organization is incapable of swinging the pendulum back, then perhaps that organization doesn't deserve its audience in the first place.

>Raped a man's childhood so HARD that even after he dies this manchild will curse his name for destroying his dreams

Can you say the same /v/? Have you fucked someone so hard they still mutter your name with vitrol?

>>718729753
A bunch of pseud midwits elevating the OT beyond what it was. People like Red Letter Media and Max Landis and yourdoggyfucks and ralphtheshittymoviemaker all came out of the woodwork and said "HAHA THE PREQUELS ARE NOT HIGH CINEMA, HAVE YOU WATCHED MULHOLLAND DRIVE!?!?"

>>718729620
What are they shilling for then? Star Wars is a dead franchise, there's nothing to shill for. Prequel fans rightfully got the last laugh when the OG fans got exactly what they wanted, a OG style film with practical effects, less ambitious plot, the old characters and aesthetic, and a hip new director that wasn't Lucas. Guess what? It was a fucking disaster and killed the franchise. Cope all you want but the prequels didn't do that.

>>718729802
>every time mike has a nightmare This face appears and is the only thing he can dream about.

>>718729523
Everybody wants him back, including everyone who spent their entire adult lives shitting on him and it's too late. He's too old, the actors are all dead and demented. It's the most poetic form of justice for the man babies who were the most obsessed with starwars, they got exactly what they asked for.

>>718729713
>None, because it doesn't fucking matter
Lmao, so I guess no proof is good enough. Good to know
>Then you don't understand why the prequels are liked and never will.
Yes, I'm simply to heterosexual to understand this gaynewfaggotry which you love.
You can love it as much want and rave about how you enjoy pozz and shitty quality, but I'll never liked it, because I'm used to something better.
I'll leave you to your newfag ways.

>>718729869
Disney is so out of touch they don't realize they're playing Weekend at Bernie's with Star Wars. You're not wrong, but you vastly underestimate the stupidity of the uber-rich.

>>718729523
I’m sorry you can decide on the correct pronunciation of gungans, guess jarjar really wasn’t that important.

>>718729867
>A bunch of pseud midwits elevating the OT beyond what it was
How's that astroturfing? Who paid them? Who organized it? Are you retarded? Do you not understand how moronic you sound
>ANTI PREQUEL VIDEOS ARE ASTROTURFED
>PRO PREQUEL VIDEOS ARE GRASSROOTS

>>718729867
>HAHA THE PREQUELS ARE NOT HIGH CINEMA
Where's the lie though

>>718729616
I specified trilogy, as in the sequel trilogy. And I've always said from the start that Rogue One is 2/3rds a fucking awful movie and 1/3rd a fucking amazing movie. I know people want to be cynical about the Vader hallway scene and shit, but fuck man I can't pretend it wasn't cool. If Disney Wars was nothing but cool bait like that, the franchise might still be alive.

>Dexter jettster bad!!!
fine, however your opinion is worth less than hot buttered dogshit when you also say
>bar owning old Jewish girl Yoda with beerbottle goggles good!!!

>>718712157
true and real

>>718729523
The prequels are garbage for brainlets.

>>718729876
I thought it was the opposite
Mike literally bullied Lucas into selling his franchise.
Imagine being a billionaire and some far alcoholic from Milwaukee dunks on you this hard.

>>718730012
The OT isn't high cinema either, sorry to burst your bubble but it's a fun space opera at best

>>718729758
Are you asleep? Lucas won in the end. Everyone acknowledges he was right all along. He wanted to make films. He didn't want to spend a life in the sewer arguing with retards, he gave them what they wanted and they learnt their lesson.

>>718729345
Really should've. Story coulda gone in a million directions after TFA, but I would have personally liked to see him just be a fucking dude with a lightsabre honestly. Like it's okay, he can be a cool dude that does something ""unique"" like using a lightsabre without being all up in the force and just pragmatically using it as a tool instead of being able to deflect blasters. Just give him a new focus. Maybe don't forget he used to be a Stormtrooper after the first film I dunno. God there's so much that sucks it's tiring to think about in depth.

>>718726353
okay. have fun playing DMC2

>>718730118
>Mike made Lucas sell
You're retarded. Lucas was tired of dealing "The Mikes" of the world, but it wasn't just Mike, it was the vast ocean of the gay dork coalition who are simultaneously retarded, yet also overanalyze shit. The same people who will poke fun at the big bad of Jedi Outcast being a Trex sith(makes sense) and not Kyle Katarn going back to the academy to grab his lightsaber to go on a revenge driven murderquest

>>718730125
The OT is as much high cinema as Indiana Jones. Which is to say it isn't. It's the cinematic equivalent of pulp. I'm sure the only pulp you're familiar with though is the pulp they turned your penis into after the sugery.

>>718730037
I legitimately wouldn't mind if it was just something in half the shows set in the right time period for Vader to show up and totally fuck up the plot randomly and cause everything to go awry especially if it meant they didn't give us Obi Wan

I stopped caring about Star Wars after the holiday special

>>718729751
Eh, TFA rightfully gets a lot of shit for the rehashing and also blatantly dropping a bunch of "don't worry, we'll explain it later" bits that either get abandoned or get pissed all over by TLJ. Really, the movie only had two memorable bits: TR-8R and the forest lightsaber fight.

>>718730037
Ah, my bad. Uhh… Kylo and Rey tag teaming the praetorian guard in TLJ was cool, at least when removed from the greater context that abortion of a movie was

>>718730037
>Vader hallway scene
>Fuck man I can't pretend it wasn't cool
God you fucking boring nostalgia obsessed boomers are so dumb. Even as the whole thing burns around you because of your lame obsessions you still won't acknowledge that being obsessed with the past is what killed it. Yes, the issue was they didn't pander enough to you retards.

>>718730285
>You're retarded. Lucas was tired of dealing "The Mikes" of the world,
Damn, he literally did.
What a dunk
Imagine if I could make Jeff Bezos sell Amazon just by calling him a bald fraud
Normalfags can only dream of such powers.

>>718730118
Lucas wanted to do a sequel trilogy and rereleased the prequels in theaters to gauge interest but they didn't do that well which is why he sold to Disney hoping that he could still be involved by they shut him out after the deal went through.

>>718730407
This
>nonchoreographed scene where the silhouette of Vader with the glowing red sword kills dudes poorly
>YOOOOOO!!!!!
This scene was a Pavlovian test that millions failed

>>718730373
I remember most (?) scenes with Kylo. Stopping the blaster bolt was cooler than every single lightsabre and force battle in the entire prequel trilogy put together in my opinion except Grievous because I love Grievous I don't give a shit. His tantrum scenes fucking up the control panels and killing Han too, of course.

>>718730436
>by they shut him out after the deal went through.
Couldn't he have specified he wanted creative control? Dude famously became a billionaire by tricking Fox itni giving him merchandise rights and he thought Disney would just accept his input?

so who came out less beat up between trekkies and star wars fans?
In everything from comics, movies, series, games etc.

at the very least I would say there is far more interesting sw games but that is cuz I don't think there are that many ST games to being with.

>>718730527
I like Driver and I'm happy he had a good career because of TFA.
Kylo Ren was the only realized character in those films, even if they had no idea what to do with him.

>>718730285
Mike was the loudest voice and he made it "cool" to shit on Lucas. There are always critics but very rarely do they multiply on that level and get that personal with the creator. It's obvious to everyone who was primarily responsible.

>>718730285
Here's a extremely surface level analysis of the prequels then.
They're boring and gay

>>718730585
100% Star Wars.
SW had good games comics, etc. And Andor is a good show.
Nu-ST literally hates everything ST stood for and is also commercially disappointing. ST:D was so bad paramount had to send jannies to the ST subreddit to curb all negative opinion.

>>718713190
zoomers are sad pathetic muppets that wouldn't know what good film is if it hit you on the back of the head. the prequels are the definition of garbage

>>718729753
>What made the prequel hate astroturfed then, retard?
It's astroturfed because this small number of older fans was pushing this narrative claiming to speak for the entire fanbase in contrast to the feelings of the actual audience, an idea supported by the fact that all prequel era games, toys, and other media sold very well and were liked and people flocked back to theaters to see the prequel films when they were put back in theaters and why Disney tried catering to them with shows like Kenobi and Ahsoka.

>>718730541
>Couldn't he have specified he wanted creative control?
Lucas trusted Disney to uphold their handshake deal. It was foolish on his part, of course, but that's more Disney being shitty than Lucas being naive. Hollywood used to honor its handshakes, Lucas was Spielberg's buddy, he probably wasn't used to being just outright lied to his face about anything and backstabbed later.

>>718730625
He was absolutely the only one who seemed to have a character concept defined, and Adam Driver is one of the only people who could actually pull off "teen angst Vader" without it being cringe
Real shame Hayden Christiansen was stuck with George Lucas because I actually think he could've pulled it off too with better direction

>>718730397
remember that conversation between Kylo and Rey right after that
>old sith faggot and everyone loyal to him are dead
>"Rey, the entire history of the galaxy has basically been Jedi vs Sith in a vicious cycle that seemingly never ends. What if we rule together and balance each other out"
>"uh nope"
In the middle of the most uninteresting movie I've ever seen they finally introduce a new idea only to shoot it down immediately. I was actually mad.

>>718730769
>It's astro-turfed because I don't like it!
Lol
Lmao even
>an idea supported by the fact that all prequel era games, toys, and other media sold very well and were liked
You all heard this stupid faggot.
The Sequels are all good.
The Cal Kestis game allsold great.
The movies were box office hits.
The gay books topped NYT best sellers.

>>718730868
It makes me so mad the movie didn't just cut to black right there and let it be a cliffhanger
directors are so stupid bros

>>718730407
>>718730519
See that's the thing. Even if it's just bait for fanboys, it's at least something memorable. After a point, Disney couldn't even deliver on the cheap pandering. They can't deliver on fucking anything. How do you completely crash a franchise so badly when all you have to do to keep people entertained is show a guy with a laser sword hack down some mooks?

>>718730868
I would have loved some lovechase highlander shit where by movie three were spanning decades of peace and the only thing keeping the balance is Rey and Kylo battling across the galaxy

>>718730541
>he wanted creative control?
does it matter? Yidsney is back to pushing the old era merch which means they are forced to pay lucas royalties again.
Not like it matter since he could blow it on drugs and whores for the rest of his life and still have enough to give millions to all his bastards

>>718702567 (OP)
What are the chances we get to see lucas's vision for the final 3 episodes in animated form? It's impossible to do in live action but it's absolutely doable as an "alternate universe" ending to the series. If the shitty mandalorian director wasn't a bitch he'd be pushing for that before Lucas dies of old age.

>>718730868
It's why I never took people saying that movie was secretly genius seriously. The one actually interesting idea in it is disposed of as quickly as its brought up. Everything else is utterly safe under a thin vineer of "subverting expectations". But what expectations were actually subverted by the end?

>>718730974
I might know what good fried chicken looks like, but if I don't know the necessary ingredients to make good fried chicken I have no business making fried chicken

>>718702567 (OP)
>I hated it!
>Really? I though it was okay
>Well, it wasn't thaaaat bad...

>>718731082
>The one actually interesting idea
Which is ripped straight from Kotor 2.

>>718731037
>forced to pay lucas royalties again.
Are you fucking retarded? Do you have any idea what you're talking about. They bought the rights to all of star wars from george lucas for four billion dollary doos. He doesn't get any royalties.

>>718730974
It wasn't memorable at all, I rolled my eyes and it cemented the film as stupid fanboy, fanfiction wank. Rouge one is a horrible film and so is the mandalorian, it's all zombie nostalgia dog shit for retards.

>>718731175
its ripped off from taoist philosophy that is thousands of years old

>>718731160
My favorite is when he says something about a movie or show and forgets about what he said about it a few videos later and just makes up an opinion on the spot when said subject comes up again.

>>718730806
I dunno it really feels terribly naive.
But I guess it makes sense that he'd still think of studios as these magnate-held institutions with big name and recognizable producers like Robert Evans, instead of skeevy companies controlled by foreigners and anonymous weirdos.
>>718731037
>does it matter?
Well, for him yeah. Also I read his ideas about what to do, and they were terrible, but better than what we got.

>>718731362
My favorite is when Mike voted for Vampire Assassin as best of the worst out of spite for Jay defending Feeders 2 for being what it is.

>>718731332
>Daoism talks about SW
First time I'm hearing about it

>>718713020
This is why i just refuse to call myself a "Star Wars Fan" now. I only really like two of the movies that much and now we've reached the point where the prequels are considered good.

>>718730952
>The Sequels are all good.
>The Cal Kestis game allsold great.
>The movies were box office hits.
>The gay books topped NYT best sellers.
So why is Star Wars dead then? If prequel haters really spoke for the Star Wars fanbase, we should be on the second Disney film trilogy right now, but we aren't.

>>718731242
I'm not gonna pretend it's high art or anything, Rogue One is basically a bad film over all, but jesus christ you sound like a no fun jaded fuck.
>UGH, did the villain show up and actually do something? So dumb! He shouldn't have even had a cameo.

>>718731387
It wasn't naive, he just didn't care that much by that point. He was probably insecure and unsure if he should even be involved after recieving so much hate for so many years. If he could see the future and see how opinion shifted he probably would have had the confidence to force his vision.

>>718703225
It's the worst video they've made in a long time but they haven't made anything nearly as bad since. If Mike managed to force himself to watch multiple seasons of Picard he can sit through a mediocre kid's movie. If he didn't want to do that then they shouldn't be making a video on it. Oh wait, that was because it was just a lazy cashgrab.

>>718730962
I will never forget when my wife dragged me to that horrible Snow White movie with the girl from Twilight, and there’s a scene when she’s poisoned and unconscious or something and the troops outside give a rousing speech to protect her, and she unexpectedly wakes up and walks out where they can all see her. It was actually a relatively well directed scene in a sea of shit and a good moment, and I remember thinking “wow, this insipid garbage actually managed to have one good scene”. And then she opened her mouth, not to put a penis in it as you would expect but rather to give a SECOND speech so awful it erased the hype from the first. All they had to do was just, cut, and move to the next scene. That was it. Fucking directors.

>>718730831
It's a real waste of talent. Driver is such a good actor he made those SNL Kyle Ren sketches work by sheer talent of keeping the character concise.
>Christensen
He's a classic "director's actor". He's okay on his own, but very directionable, so a good actor's director can make him dleiber a great performance
And Lucas certainly wasn't one

>>718713020
Prequeltrannies will see this and book their penis removal surgery immediately after

>>718702567 (OP)
Big boss was charismatic as hell in that, and I will throw a hissy fit anyone who dares to insult her.

>>718731467
Nta but it's pretty obvious Lucas was very into east asian shit like daoism and the concept of the way was grafted onto the force.

>>718731512
>So why is Star Wars dead then?
Who said it's dead? There's new tv shows coming off, books etc.
>we should be on the second Disney film trilogy right now,
Where's the second prequel trilogy, then?

>>718726014
Previously Recorded, Anon. Their Let's Play attempt.

>>718731584
Stewart was always a bad actress.
Give her a role so that she can be pretty and not emote much and that's it.

>>718702567 (OP)
I only watch RLM to jack off to Jay.

>>718731552
No, I don't think making an entire grey film about a 2 second off hand remark from the OT is a fun time, I don't cum my pants because I member some shit from when I was 12. I think the prequels are stupid and fun because they were full of creativity and life, instead of enjoying those martial arts inspired hyper coreogrphed light saber fights your generation scoffed at it and now you have the gall to say anyone is no fun allowed. I find nostalgia baiting, especially on that profoundly cynical, corporate level depressing and lifeless.

safe-edgy Plinkett was resurrected just so that mike can mald about lucas for the umpteen time.
I wonder w-
>
oh I see why.
Do you think if they are so fucking desperate for money they will release a "Lucas was always right" videos to appease and get zoomer bucks?
as far as I know they aren't really pop with the young crow aside from being clowned on for the Prequel's hate so they might unironically prostate themselves to try to cash in the hateviews.

>>718732029
>full of creativity and life
What? Did watch a different set of films.
Nobody fucking emotes in those things and 80% of the film is sterile CG.

>>718732029
>I don't cum my pants because I member some shit from when I was 12
Yet you like the prequels because you saw them when you were 12. Hmmmm ironic.

>>718732125
Hey, not trying to dismiss your questions, but first I gotta know, did you know that Mike, Jay, and Rich have work outside of just RLM?

>>718732125
I thought their Patreon was hidden

>>718732125
>patreons and money per patron go down
>earnings go up drastically
huh?

>>718732125
Hoo boy, I should probably throw them a few bucks because as far as their glory years are behind them they can still analyze Kino better than most influencers. More of a Roger Ebert level and less of "I got/get paid to watch by X Studio to make a video on this so here is what I think"

>>718732323
>work outside of just RLM
obviously not paying the bills since they had to come back to resurrect the kidnapped dead hooker's master into a shadow of his former self.

>>718732323
>did you know that Mike, Jay, and Rich have work outside of just RLM?
I don't think those occasional voice works are much to go on

>>718722212
The sequels were way more incompetent than cynical

It wouldn't have cost an extra million to pay like 10 successful screenwriters to do a roundtable for a week and work out a filmable three movie plan. It would have cost zero dollars for Katherine Kennedy not to just pick the first loser than talked to her to direct the second movie.

Really the laziness the incredibly rich did an amazing amount of damage to star wars between Lucas's lazy fucking rough draft scripts they shot before the ink dried and Kennedy just shooting from the hip with whoever was nearby.

>>718732130
Kek, you really are one of those no fun allowed gen x'ers huh. You unironically were the generation who complained about lightsaber fights looking like cheesy HK action cinema, you whined about underwater cities and gungans being stupid, you whined about pod racing because the kid was too annoying, you whined about stupid shit like prequel era tech looking too clean and advanced for a prequel, you whined about droids being too goofy and now you turn around and say I'm the guy who hates fun because I won't clap at a corporate, boring 10 second scene of Vader fan wank?

Fanbases really are cancerous.

>>718732029
>instead of enjoying those martial arts inspired hyper coreogrphed light saber fights your generation scoffed at it and now you have the gall to say anyone is no fun allowed.
You're making assumptions about my position. I actually enjoyed the prequels a lot as a kid and even though I can recognize that there's issues with them, I can appreciate the things they did well. That's exactly why I hate having to pretend the Vader hallway scene was so lame because we can't have Vader do fucking anything cool because that's BADWRONG nostalgia.
You don't see me going out to defend Solo for nostalgia baiting, do you? That's because Solo didn't even do a decent job of pandering. It was just mediocre to shit from beginning to end.

>>718732382
it is because they stopped showing earning so the ""earnings" will always show the last trend they were at which was going up years ago.

>>718732498
>nonsense rant about nothing
>fails to address the simple points mentioned.
Damn, the new generation is gay and retarded

>>718730360
You weren't even born when the special editions came out

>>718732498
You're conflating two groups of people.

Hcuckerguy is gonna drop his "ackshually prequels good1!" any day now and you stupid fucking niggers are gonna basedface with excitement, "see our /basedguy/ thinks so too, get owned boomers!!".

>>718732683
Who?

>>718732434
That's true.
It's kinda staggering that Disney spent billion acquiring the most successful franchise of all time and then it didn't even bother managing it well.
Kennedy was also terrible in her role. Who the fuck doesn't have a plan when organizing a trilogy.
Say what you will about Feige the fag, but he's very good at his job and the only reason Marvel managed to last this long.
WB trying to make Geoff Johns their Feige will never not be hilarious

>>718732705
The onions zoomer youtube king.

>>718732179
I don't give a shit about the prequels anymore, they are fond memories that are for a version of me that is gone, just like the love of Pokémon and other childish shit. I haven't watched them since I was 12 and I don't call for them to be remade. I don't want to see Darth maul ever again, I don't want to see anakin or jar jar or any of that shit. I wanted starwars to evolve for the next generation, I do not enjoy pandering, fanfic media.

>>718732779
So you've hated every Star Wars game ever made?

>>718732779
I want to see starwars die because its shit for complete retards like you who gobble more glizzies than a goyim golem

>>718732834
Yeah, I do hate most of them, I hate the cynical corporate respawn games, I hate outlaws, I hate battlefront and all the other mediocre spin off games.

I liked the space sims, they were almost an invention of a new genre. I liked republic commando because the squad mechanics were fresh and I like jedi knight 2 because the multiplayer jedi combat was innovative and fun. The games had to do something mechanically interesting for me to care.

>>718732874
It's already dead and I'm not the one who cares, it's the people who killed it that care. I'm much more angry at the death of a very rare privately owned videogame and movie studio that could have gone on to fund alot of cool art.

>>718732509
I don't have an actual problem with you enjoying the Vader scene, you can eat all the McDonald's shit you want, I think it's lame and I'll call you a gay boomer but that's standard for all media discussion. I have a problem with you then saying that Disney should have doubled down on that shit and that starwars wouldn't have died if they did. This is a ridiculous opinion to hold when doubling down on nostalgia is so obviously what killed it and what kills all long running media franchise's.

>>718733919
actually just being extremely bad killed the sequel trilogy, in fact it's mostly TLJ which was the least nostalgic of them all
and it's sheer bad writing and idiocy that killed all the D+ shows. Thing I recognize! isn't the end of the fucking world. But mixing up show casts between Boba Fett and Mando and going completely fucking retarded with both anyways past their concepts is what murdered them way more than there being a naboo starfighter or an AT-ST.

>>718711870
>ruins ur entertainment

>>718734294
I appreciate Josh when there's no expectation for him to be funny because he doesn't have the same cynicism as the rest of the cast.

>>718734154
It is actually impossible to make something good while also being a stupid fanboy who is waking to the source like it's your bible. What you aren't getting is that an artist having their own vision is a prequisite for making things that aren't shit.

JJ's films are just as shit as episode 8 and if I had to watch one starwars film out of all the nu Disney vomit it would be unfortunately be episode 8.

>>718722196
>new = bad shticm
>the superman review
Uh.... they actually gave the film alot of positive reception. They had some issues with it from capeshit burnout but they thought it was fun and that's usually pretty important to them regarding superhero films.

>>718722196
>>718734668
Their Superman review was basically at the very end where Mike and Jay asked Rich if he would recommend it, and he said, "Yeah, sure, it was fun." The rest of the episode was Mike and Jay being befuddled as to what the complaints /co/ had with it were even about from a pure movie standpoint.

>>718731580
As a fellow TNG fan, I can say for a fact Mike was getting sexual gratification from his anger while hate watching picard and forcing Dick Evans to do the same. They literally gave themselves stockholm syndrome by season 3.

>>718734524
An artist's "own vision" need not be impaired by the existence of source material. Constraints, too, encourage creativity. It is not difficult to write a good story with AT-STs nor is it difficult to write a bad one. It is just part of the setting when you set it somewhere. If you aren't setting something as part of the setting somewhere, don't attach a Star War to it. You're lost in the completely opposite direction, blindly hating on the idea of continuity or "references" as if it's actually such a burden to tell decent to great stories in an established universe. It's not, people have done it for decades actually.

>>718702567 (OP)
>it's pretty good, but there's too many strong male characters in it. You know what show I love, Star Wars Acolyte. Most male characters are pathetic and women rule the world. MGS should do that too Mike. And I want Disney to make more Acolyte, cause it's really good and embodies the soul of Star Wars: Women

>>718734772
It's because of Picard that they gave the Obi-Wan show such a 7/10 review. They were mindbroken by Star Trek. Even Jay the Mediator couldn't believe what he was hearing, and I still believe every comment on that two-part video is nothing but flabbergasted questions over Mike and Rich's sanity.

>>718734761
Yeah okay you're right about that. I think their /co/omplaints about /co/ reviews and Schneider shit is all there really is to talk about though when you don't give a fuck about these films stories at all and are treating them like the Big Macs they are, and all the shneider vs gunn stuff js about 50% of the marketing and discussion on every piece of social media regarding this film.

Now that i think about it, they should have just not made a video on it if they didn't want to do it and were miserable in the not fun way. Same with the mineshart movie. I like the crew enough to enjoy their talks about pop culture but it's not a movie review, it's a podcast

>>718734945
>Jay's two best friends and colleagues for over 20 years slowly succumb to severe accelerated dementia from hate watching Star Trek Picard
>All he can do is watch, aghast and powerless to save them.
Poor Jay. No wonder he's going Gray.

>>718734834
You aren't talking about leveraging a pre-existing universe while doing something fresh and interesting, you are defending creatively bankrupt fan wank. The best art is always going to come from people who are pushing the limits of what the starwars universe will allow, this is because the limits were arbitrarily decided by a completely different human with completely different artistic aims. Good art will never, ever come from a director who treats the OT or the prequels like a bible.

>>718735256
I'm on the outside looking in, but after their Back to the Future review I genuinely believe they're not having fun anymore, but they can't walk away from the company. I don't think they hate each other like what happens with most projects like this (think SBFP for /v/), but they just hate what they're doing. As much of a shitty Jewboy Captain Disillusion is, his review of Back to the Future has so much love for the property it's enjoyable to watch. As short as Kaptain Kristian's review of Fleischer Superman is, his last sentence of "he's not an alien, he's not a god, he's just a dude from Kansas trying to do the right thing" lingers more than "yeah, sure, it's fun".

>>718735486
I'm not defending anything. I'm talking generally. No one needs to treat them like a bible to every minute detail but there's also no reason to undermine them or overtly contradict them.
You can write a dogshit show about Obi Wan, but you can also write an excellent show involving Mon Mothma. Once again, presence or lack of "thing I remember!" doesn't make anything good or bad.

>>718735496
I disagree with the idea that they hate what they're doing. What they hate is HITB. The only films they've really enjoyed since 2020 are mostly small, straight to streaming films that don't even have theatrical releases. I think this speaks alot about the state of the film market and "block busters". Review is always good because they pretty much always want to talk about what they're reviewing, and it's often a spur of the moment thing when they decide on what film to make a video on. BOTW is also a lot of fun for them still I think, to this day they find multiple gems every single year and nearly always have some level of fun. Sometimes you get a patton oswald episode though and nearly cause a celebrity to shoot themselves in the head on your podcast because the films are so fucking boring.

I think they need to take a break from HITB or restructure it and just focus on films they like. They burnt themselves out reviewing all of their favourite IP's getting raped for like 10 years straight and watching every marvel movie.

>>718736032
I've changed my opinion after reading your post. I don't want to because Mike looking for nitpicks in BttF didn't jive with me, but I can't find anything to disagree with you about here.

>>718736189
Mike had low blood sugar during that review because jay hid his insulin pump after he made fun of his gray hair. Cut him a little slack

>>718735769
Nobody with a vision wants to write a stupid story about obiwan or some other fan favourite character besides a retarded fanboy or a corporate stooge. I haven't watched andor but I'm assuming as the only piece of well liked new starwars media it's not some OT side character fanfic.

This is the same argument as, liberal political themes dont automatically make a game shit but a woke person making a game is always going to make a shitty game because they are all retarded.

>>718705456
I don't know why he puts himself through this

>>718736492
Either he knows videos where he shits on bad nerd IPs make bank, or he's a buckbroken fanboy that has to keep watching in the hopes that maybe something good will happen. One can see this happen all the time in other properties. How many people still watch Game Grumps after Jon left? How many people still watch Jontron after he moved to New York?

>>718736492
Mike has 2 inch holes in his brain after watching all of Star Trek Picard while being perpetually sick with long covid.

>>718736691
>How many people still watch Game Grumps after Jon left?
way more than watched while he was with them you realize, right? holy shit man do you know how long ago and how short a time he was on it?
Not a fan either, not then or now, both Jon and Arin are retards.

>>718736845
What are you talking about, Game Grumps game out just a few years ago you retard.

>>718702567 (OP)
>standard establishing characters show up
>complains about heterosexuality
What's Mike's deal?

>>718736875
>I'm afraid it's been... 13 years.

>>718702567 (OP)
lol remember when Jay turned directly to the camera and tearfully screamed
"REY IS NOT A MARY SUE!"

Rich Evans must be protected at all cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiUdRRPKZXI

>>718738806
This is actually the wrong take. If a game is made available on every platform, then it has to be constructed with the lowest common denominator in both performance and gameplay. Think of Deus Ex: Invisible War. It was made for both Windows and Xbox, but the limitations of the Xbox also limited the Windows version of the game.

Ideally, games would be made specifically for the PC, and then lower-quality ports would be created for other systems based on whether or not a company owning a game console wanted to buy the product. No game developer should be forced to make a game for any console first. All games should be made PC exclusive at their conception.

>>718712157
Stop replying to yourself

>>718705456
I think he was more arguing that acolyte had some good in it and people hate it for the wrong, easy reasons. I don't think he actually liked it, he was just saying star wars is so fucked up even a reviled show has some good but wasted bits.

>>718739041
The lowest common denominator is the game engine. Take the Fox Engine, for example, which was created with the aim of running MGSV on PS3 and PS4. It is a fine example of engineering. Very good craftsmanship. If the entire industry operated under the principle of trying to create good foundations for games to run on all platforms, every piece of software would be properly optimized.

Look at the opposite case, CP77, Gotham Knights, Battlefield 2042. Poorly manufactured products at their core because mediocrity and then the excuse that made was that they were made for “next-gen” when in reality they are poorly manufactured products because the executives had the wrong objectives in mind (greed and a low cost bill of materials).

>>718739309
The entire Plinkett review was him taking the piss out of zoomer revisionists. By hyper-focusing on good things in both Acolyte and Andor, Mike wanted to establish that a few good scenes don't make the entire product not shit. Zoomers had been harping on specific details to justify why the prequels are misunderstood classics. In Mike's video, for example, one of the zoomer justifications of the prequels being good is that the lightsaber battles are "better" than the OG trilogy's. The lightsaber fight in the power plant at the end of Episode 1 doesn't make the rest of the movie amazing. The movie is bad, but it has some good scenes in it. The Acolyte is bad, but it has some good scenes in it. However, the zoomers who are trying to give the prequels a second chance are frothing over Acolyte and are oblivious to their own hypocrisy.

Genuinely the only ones upset with this latest video are the people Mike was making fun of in said video.

>>718739465
I know you think you sound smart but analog stick aiming will always be worse than mouse aiming, and having an entire keyboard of buttons will always be better than having a maximum of less than a dozen.

>>718706517
I like Tim, but he kind of takes a backseat in every episode he's in

>>718739754
I like him because he's not there to ruin anybody's high and will surprise you with a drunken one-liner with just enough thought to make it funny but not enough thought to prevent him from saying it

>>718724686
Damn so that's why that impressions guy never returned in another video

>>718739992
Pretty sure he was doing the George Lucas voice in the new video. ‘Meesa gettin kinda pissed off’ and ‘I’ll do a force chokehold on you’ got some good laughs out of me

>>718739636
>I know you think you sound smart
I am.

>>718731707
>There's new tv shows coming off, books etc.
It's a MOVIE franchise, anon. If they don't want to make any more movies, it's not doing well. They've already cancelled like 5 TV show projects and at least 3 separate film trilogies.
>Where's the second prequel trilogy, then?
Lucas wasn't in it for the money during the prequels.

>Disney fucks up franchise
>Why not bring back George?
>Is 81 years old and can die any time now
>mfw

>>718726551
>Ocelot sniggering like a retard while running away to get into his mech was dogshit.
That was funny as fuck, how gay can you get?

>>718705456
are you like actually retarded?

>>718740654
>It's a MOVIE franchise, anon. If they don't want to make any more movies, it's not doing well
Then I guess the prequel trilogy failed.
>Lucas wasn't in it for the money during the prequels.
Right that's why all proceeds went to charity.

>>718740703
not as gay as ocelot kissing snake when put into a chokehold

>>718740798
>Then I guess the prequel trilogy failed.
You could maybe claim that if Lucas had promised 9 more films and then failed to make any. It's been six years since the last Disney Star Wars film, and there's nothing on the horizon.
>Right that's why all proceeds went to charity.
He was already uber-rich prior to making the prequels, he didn't need them to do well. That's why they're so full of political commentary.

>>718739582
You need to stop sucking his dick. He's making the argument that zoomers and gen a are all woke and that the only reasons millenials hate the acolyte is they mirror his position with the prequels and just don't understand the youth. This is a sad attempt to cover his ass and his own childish freak out and he's doing it by normalising woke, corporate propaganda as a natural, generational cultural shift.

>>718738806
I mainly play pc so i don't care to much since console specs are good enough now that the only issues are publishers that don't give a fuck about optimization or shitty engines like UE5. But the concept of exclusives isn't inherently bad. The idea is that exclusive games are what should draw a decent portion of sales for your specific console, this in turn incentives companies to produce better content and attempt to evolve their game concepts over other companies to make people want to buy their system to play their better games. This doesn't tend to be how it plays out in reality though because companies have abandoned drawing in new users with unique software and are just holding out with legacy buyers and kids because licensing deals from things like warzone and other types generate more instant passive income than good video games. And most companies are trying to funnel their user into software subscriptions as their future buisness model, like xbox gamepass. That's also why remakes of big ip's are most AAA games now, guaranteed sales from legacy fans.

>>718741003
Wow, cool!

>>718740965
>You could maybe claim that if Lucas had promised 9 more films and then failed to make
He did claim that though
>>718740965
>He was already uber-rich prior to making the prequels, he didn't need them to do well
Why didn't he make them private movies, then? Because he also did those after he sold star wars and red tails failed.

>>718741051
This is your brain on e-celebs and Peter pan syndrome.

>>718730756
Zoomers didn't grow up with the prequels, retard. They grew up with the shitty 3D clone wars cartoons and Rebels. It's the precursor of shitty Disney slop. That's why Lego has to make all these terrible Clone Wars sets with Glup Shitto the hardcore commander of Squad Ballsack and Rex Rogers the hero of season 12 of Bad Batch who was totally the best heckerino friend of Anakin who you never fucking see in any of the movies and the orange jailbait alien that got an entire fucking live action series that nobody watched because every adult is asking "who the fuck is this orange bitch and why am I supposed to care for any of these characters that are being talked about like they have huge deep lore?"

>>718741051
you disrespectful little shit

>>718722959
>It's impressive how hard it fucked up
It's literally because Fukushima didn't work on it aka the father of Metal Gear.

>>718741416
you don't know what the boundaries of generations are
the oldest zoomers are nearly 30
virtually all zoomers grew up with the prequels as the dominant star wars property in their childhoods

>>718741635
No they didn't, the oldest zoomers are under 30 which means the majority are way under 30. Only the absolute oldest zoomers were 8 years old by the time episode 3 released (which is pg-13), let alone episode 1 where half of them weren't even born yet.

>>718741875
yeah man a lot of them saw it in theatres as 5 year olds, and then you know more saw them on VHS and DVD through the 2000s in general because they were still pretty relevant from 2000 to 2008 as the dominant piece of star wars media
Every fucking zoomer grew up with the prequel trilogy, the real divide is that no zoomer ever could've seen the special edition re-releases of the OT in theatres and remember it

>>718725987
I remember they switched to offline mode in Dark Souls 2 as soon as they were out of the tutorial section. Between that and their X-COM gameplay I got the impression that they genuinely held nothing but bad opinions about video games. Given how quick it died I feel like I wasn't the only one who tuned them out because of their poor takes.

>>718742168
Nobody was going to the cinema as a 5 year old to see a pg 13 film, what are you talking about. By the time the oldest zoomer was actually the target demo the prequels were already dead for 5 years, the first film would have been ancient for a zoomer. I don't know why there's always historical revisionist zoomers pretending they had millenial childhoods.

>>718703225
>I genuinely haven't watched them since that incredibly lazy Minecraft movie video
Why? Because they did not autistically suck the movie's dick? They are a million years old and its not for them.

>>718711736
the prequels are shit thoughever

>>718711870
God I want to saw his head off, but of course, no one should saw his head off, because that would be bad and evil.

>>718711870
Beardfat has one redeeming quality, he's not AIDSmoby.

>>718724686
how autistic is everyone in this thread to think is serious?

>>718702567 (OP)
Hideo Kojima is the George Lucas of video games

>>718734294
When he's in the zone, he is fun, but I feel he's too nice even for a neckbeard

>>718703225
you have to be 18 to post here

>>718702567 (OP)
mike is the kind of guy to really like mgs1 and 4
rich's favorite is 3
jay's is 2 and 5

>>718738806
This is just like Doug Walker doing vidya streams, not only these hacks are dead wrong when it comes to movies they really do not get it when it comes to games. System exclusives were directly tied to the system architecture which delivered objectively better and more original games to push the specialized hardware. That is the reason why PC ports were fucking trash until Gen VIII.

Then Microsoft came along and pushed the windows core in all their systems and hell you can even count the Dreamcast, this is what turned consoles from specialized hardware dedicated to games into overpriced prebuilds, and the trade off was not worth it. PCs are a jack of all trades reason why innovation has stagnated a ton because there are no longer engineers working on creating dedicated gaming hardware anymore because adopting the same core for all systems is simply more efficient in costs and development reason why adopting the PC x86 architecture was just as bad for the industry as it was adopting Unreal Engine for everything.
Much like how UE5 will eventually take over everything, or how every browser is a variant of Chromium, this unification makes branching and development of alternatives much harder if not impossible since working on a new system from scratch that can compete in the same environment will take resources beyond the scope of any company, killing game diversity in the process.

The funny part is that Microsoft won't be around to reap the results given that Steam beat them to the punch and for the way Microsoft is managing their business they might lose to open source solutions.
So yes, Microsoft intrusion into the market was disastrous for the industry.

>>718738806
most exclusives were only made because of funding by the platform's company

>>718740678
Much like Ozzy, that guy was pretty old the last time he was relevant and Genxers are surprised to learn they are in their fucking 50s.
They are all like that one retard from Clerks, Kevin Smith.
>My childhood was almost 50 years ago?
Uh yes and the people who made it possible were 30 then, what the fuck did you expect?

I used to watch those fucks before I knew any better but later I realized I don't actually care about their opinion on obscure horror movies, I'm not a star trek fan and I actually liked the prequels because they are fun and memey and not the worst thing to happen to cinema ever.

>>718725019
>>718727302
Not him but I'm an old fuck in my late 40s and TPM is the funniest moment of nerd zeitgeist in my life. The shock -> confusion -> denial -> anger cycle that happened when that movie came out is really fucking amusing. I haven't seen anything like it since (But maybe it's cause I'm not in those circles as much)

>>718713446
Underrated post

>>718741635
>virtually all zoomers grew up with the prequels as the dominant star wars property in their childhoods
Nae they did nae. They grew up with Pixar/Disney movies and the MCU. Phantom Menace was 1999. Zoomers were still in their dads baw sack at the time. Ask any zoomer who likes star wars who their favorite guy is and they'll name some retard from the Clone Wars.

>>718729051
>>718729248
Same but I only watched Phantom Menace. You couldn't have convinced me to go watch the second one and third one as a kid.

I watched it later as an adult and Attack of the Clones is even worse. Good call, kid me.

>>718745168
Hackjima has never created a kino like Indiana Jones or THX 1138.

>>718738806
He's saying this because he got a PS4 or Series X instead of a Switch and realized those consoles are dog shit because everything was released on PC, which he also has. An exclusive is good when it actually makes use of the hardware and gimmicks like a Nintendo console.

Wait, I just realized that this thread was made because there's actually a new Plinkett.
And it's another one where Mike makes sure to shit on prequeltards, apparently.
I fucking love this guy. Prequel apologists keep thinking they will finally slip by the cracks and Mike makes sure to never let them forget that Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones are unmitigated dogshit on the same level of slop as Episode IX.

>>718729051
they've been retroactively buffed by existing in contrast to nearly 2 decades of remakes and multiverse slop

>>718739041
>Ideally, games would be made specifically for the PC, and then lower-quality ports would be created
You would think this is how it works but doesn't and I don't know why. The whole 360/PS3 era genuinely fucked PC game development because all publishers including PC publishers focused hard on consoles. Which doesn't make sense because the PC demographic was huge and on console they were paying big licensing fees, even for patches. Also it was disappointing learning that you can take a 3D model and increase its polygon count but you cannot take a 3D model and lower ots polycount through software automation. This is why so many Switch games on unreal ran like shit because devs/publishers didn't want to go back and pay for what are esentially lower quality models made from scratch. Only a few games did this and they came out looking amazing and playing well (mostly id Tech games).

>>718746303
To be fair, I can enjoy watching and remembering prequel slop and nkt feel like my tome is being wasted. Sequel slop is not only bad, but forgettable and an enormous waste of time.

>>718703225
>zoomers are actually mad that RLM didn't watch The Minecraft movie
That's hilarious. I went to watch the movie with my kids and have to say RLM didn't miss anything by not sticking to the end. They correctly assessed the movie as so formulaic that the ending doesn't really matter and seeing 20 minutes is seeing the whole movie. In fact, seeing the trailers is seeing the movie.

>>718741635
Nah, the "prequels were actually good" is millennial nostalgia. Zoomers don't give a shit about star wars.

>>718706517
Surprisingly good anchor to the show, but he always makes me think there's drama with the rest of the crew.

>>718748621
who do you think was watching the clone wars cartoon?

>>718711870
Reminds me of my brother in a bad way, but my brother could unironically do better on this kinda show than him.

>>718702681
SHAGOHOD, I'M GONNA CUUUUUUM

>>718710620
The ending made me cry like a little bitch

>>718703225
>I genuinely haven't watched them since that incredibly lazy Minecraft movie video
who the fuck would watch that full slop shit

>>718702567 (OP)
A RLM x MGS hybrid thread kinda works cuz Kojima is the George Lucas of vidya.
>both peaked early and were better when they didn't have sycophants working with them
>both of their latter works are dogshit that remain semi-relevant because they have post-ironic and/ or genuine 80 IQ fans
>d00d remember the hecking awesome lightsaber battle on Mustafa!?!? d00d remember Liquid Ocelot and Old Snake's ebin fist fight??? So fvcking kino!

mike died when STD came out. His corpse raped and deifled when Picard came out. He is a mere husk of a man now. thats why his opinions stink now. remember he even defended STDs pilot episode. he was still in denial. silver lining my ass

>>718753868
The dementia used to be a joke, now I think it's true.

Question, are mike and rich in the closet or something and/or just secretive about their personal lives, they've been "friends" for decades and neither ever mentions any family (outside of dead grandma stories)

>>718727502
Thank you for your arguments against free speech as a concept.

>>718705456
>>718706457
I can't believe nobody mentioned that the hack writer/director/whatever said she was just trying to copy KOTOR(very poorly) and that's the concept that actually has him interested.

>>718710620
>The grand finale of the series tying up loose ends and celebrating what came before is bad, actually
Nah.

>>718702567 (OP)
It's shit

>>718742489
It's funny cause Jack does challenge videos for souls likes sometimes.

>>718757374
The lady that used to be in the show was Mike's girlfriend, I think. They are really private, I don't think they ever mention their personal lives at all. I think the only piece of private information I got over the years was that Jack grew up in a farm, since he referenced it twice over the years. Besides that, nope.

>>718759396
Yeah, but Mike refuses to ever touch a videogame ever so that story will always be untold to him. Jay is more willing to dip into gaming then Mike will ever be.

>>718703225
I stopped when they didn't hate the force awakens

>"Gen Alpha is reassessing the the Acolyte."
What the actually fuck was he talking about?

>>718703225
I'm not a zoomer but I feel like the controversy stems from this gen X thing of thinking yourself to be too cool to watch certain things, even ironically, not landing well with zoomers. Especially when they regularly watch far worse movies ironically.

>>718729538
this

>>718763928
I don't watch these guys but that's probably the 1 job they had

>>718751382
Same

Since we rarely get RLM threads, I have a request. I recall some BoTW episode where Mike tells Jay a joke about Rich's grandma that was so mean-spirited that Jay tells him not to say it again but I can't find it anymore.

>>718722513
I didn't mind it

>>718703225
I'm pretty sure the joke was that there's nothing to review, the Minecraft movie was exactly what everyone expected when they heard about a Minecraft movie with jack black

>>718753075
But MGS peaked with MGR, MGSV and Peace Walker, the others are just shitty movies.
Plus Lucas has never made a bad movie.

It will always surprise me Star Wars has this kind of following, even after seeing some of the original trilogy they came off as fairly competent action sci fi movies but never felt the world was that interesting to justify all this extra shit. It feels about as generic sci fi as it can get. About the most interesting thing is jedis got some power or some shit

>>718705456
makes me sad how the older they got the worse they have become

>>718711870
I’ve actually kinda come around on him. Why does everyone hate him again?

>>718768429
It really was just Dune for general audiences. Streamlined.

>>718732125
>2021 was the peak before the fall
I wonder what happened to cause people to stop being members?

>>718711870
Beardfat is unironically better than Rich and Jack at this point
Pre-Rec gave Rich such a huge fucking ego and it never deflated, if Mike isn't around to put Rich in his place he will ruin every single video he is in

>>718724024
Yes, a good eulogy to Star Wars and a correct take that nothing released after RotJ is Star Wars.

>>718746213
>Ask any zoomer who likes star wars who their favorite guy is and they'll name some retard from the Clone Wars.
wow, part of the prequels? That rely on seeing the Prequel movies? That anyone who watched saw the source material of?
Why do you pretend the Clone Wars isn't the Prequels?

>>718702567 (OP)
You mean Metal Gear Solid 3? I played that like 30 years ago on the 3DS...

>>718724686
>Expect a big sperg out or argument to break out from everyone's replies
>Literally nothing happens other than Mike doing his usual depressed face
Huh?

>>718722196
hitb sucks because they never seem to review interesting movies, they just do bad ones then complain they're bad.
the only times they do interesting movies on hitb these days is in their truncated reviews on catch-up eps

>>718702567 (OP)
Being cynical is SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

George Lucas!!1

>>718703225
I love RLM but they're extremely lazy and boomerish sometimes. Like ignoring animated stuff and videogames. SW sequel trilogy is ok but basically anything that came from those is kino (games, animated show etc...). I bet they haven't watched Star Trek TAS despite being Star Trek fan.

RLM is the longest I've followed any content creators and still to date keep up with, and it's not even close. I mean it goes back to 2009 if you count the plinkett reviews but I've been following since they launched Half in the Bag in 2011

>>718770784
Did you mean prequel here because even in the extended offerings the sequel trilogy material is largely shit

>>718770784
I get the feeling they delved into the AU stuff in the past and found it silly, which is fair since there are quite a lot of stinkers in there. That's just what happens when a lore is explored by many different writers, like comic books.
They praise The Acolyte for trying things in a new era but obviously have no knowledge of the Old Republic stuff which did the same years ago and was actually liked.

>>718702567 (OP)
I watch, sometimes best of worse is funny. They are complete retards though and their critiques have zero value. They genuinely dont understand what makes good films entertaining.

>>718751382
>>718759590
>>718764364
Soi

>>718771181
Oh yeah that

>>718729616
I always liked Rouge one overall: it has a lot of problems, but the space battle at the end is pretty good, and i like the Ip man movies

>>718746241
>he didn't play Snatcher

>>718768429
Yes, but you're looking at it through the lens of someone that has a bunch of other competent sci-fi settings floating around in your brain space. Filter out everything that was made after the original trilogy and see how much competition the Star Wars universe has.
Also, Star Wars went super heavy into branding, pushing toys, expanded universe books, etc.

>>718775034
>I must defend slop because I hate the people who complain about it

>>718776465
Anon there are far more interesting sci fi settings and stories before 1977

>>718776756
>They openly criticism and say it’s not good
>But they didn’t whine about blacks women and gays for 30 minutes AHHH
>They didn’t open up the wiki and whine about the lore for 30 minutes AHHH

>>718711870
hes started to grow on me. He seems like a good dude and even though he can be nerd cringe at times he can also be funny.