Thread 718730840

Steamdeck is thicker and girthier, not to mention a tad wider too..

Allybros.. We're smaller...

>>718730840 (OP)
Isn't smaller a good thing for handhelds? You won't see me shilling for the ROG ally either way since no trackpads & no back buttons.

>>718730840 (OP)
i'm not buying a handheld until we get closer to a psp form factor. apparently the ps6 handheld is gonna be significantly smaller than switch/steamdeck

Thats actually probably kind of a good thing, better ergonomics etc etc
what im more curious about is whether the fan is also on top of the xbox ally, since it means cant play under the blanket

>>718730840 (OP)
That's a good thing though. But my more important question is if it's also lighter. The Steam Deck was too heavy to be comfortable playing in bed which is why I returned it.

>>718730840 (OP)
Switch had the right idea with the joycons. It's a pain having to replace busted controls in the steam deck

>>718731587
>The Steam Deck was too heavy to be comfortable playing in bed which is why I returned it.
What? That's the only place I play the Steam Deck and I just rest it on top of myself while I'm laying on my back.

I want a PC handheld that's as big as the vita. Fuck tablet sized handhelds.

>>718731758
It's not really comfortable to rest it on my chest while playing. I'd rather hold it up with my elbows or above my head. There's a reason why this meme exists.

>big good for handhelds
no that's not good for most technology

>>718731904
I want an ultrawide handheld.

>>718731249
Track pads are based but every pic i see of peoples steam decks has the nastiest layer of crust built up in the fucking seam around the track pads. Seeing so many greasy fucking decks makes the build quality look worse than it is

>>718730840 (OP)
Not only that, Windows Desktop isn't even off, it's working in the background. Prepare for maximum bloat.

Guys I’m reaaaaly close to pressing buy on a Steamdeck but is it really worth it? I got a gaming pc and consoles and a switch.

What makes it worth it and what’s your most played game?

Can any Irish bro please tell me if currently there are refurbished steam oleds? I’m going there next month and I don’t have a vpn to check

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/the-latest-valve-steam-console-rumour-with-amd-rdna4-can-be-safely-ignored-heres-why/
Does this pretty much kill the Fremont, thing?

>>718731249
Those are not handhelds. If it can't fit in a normal sized pocket it's a console.

>>718730840 (OP)
good, make it vita/psp sized now

>>718737513
It's a handheld not a pocketheld

>>718730840 (OP)
It's because of this.
Steam deck's ergo is really underated and putting sticks and dpad in-line with the large, extended slopped area makes almost any combination of controls comfortable, even the trackpads which the Ally doesn't even have.

The steam deck succeeded because it was as versatile as possible and you could play a huge variety of shit. None of these fucking clones get that. Locking it down to one console's library, designing it more strictly around dpad games rather than stick games, and eliminating entire genres from being comfortably playable literally kills the device's entire purpose.

>>718730840 (OP)
That's a good thing. Maybe the next revision they'll make something that's small enough to actually be portable.

>>718737369
Continuing
https://bsky.app/profile/plagman.bsky.social/post/3lhflptgruk2v
This sounds like Fremont rumor is kill

>>718737949
>ah yes my autism toy does all the niche things
>why of course I only play games from 2015 and earlier why do you ask?
How is the Deck relevant it is so old and cant handle any new games without extreme faggotry to make it work.

>>718735498
>What makes it worth it
Already having a steam library that you want to play in bed, on the couch, or in hotels rooms.
>and what’s your most played game
Suspend and pickup has lead to me playing games through rather more than timedumping individual games. Gone through a lot of conventional 5-20 hour singleplayer games.

>>718738224
Yes, my gaming handheld fucking plays games. I know that's a novel concept to retards who think anything beyond running the latest AAA garbage on max settings is "extreme faggotry".
It's not even niche stuff. The most played games on the Deck are shit like BG3 or Balatro which are ass to play without a trackpad.

>>718737513
Handheld doesn't mean the exact same thing as "pocket storable"

>>718735498
Get it if you want to play steam games on the go. If you don't want to do that don't get it. I bought it just in case if have to go somewhere for a few days. But I still use it at home while watching tv in the background.

For all the people who got the Deck to play in bed, why not just move your desk near your bed and get a wireless keyboard?

That's what I do and its cozy.

>>718730840 (OP)
'eckers are just compensating for their small 'icks

>>718738840
1. That's degenerate behaviour
2. I'd rather pay 500 buckeroos than to feng shui my bedroom just to be a degenerate

>>718738962
How is buying a handheld PC just to play PC games in bed any less degenerate?

And if it fucks up the feng shui that much, then what about hooking your PC to your tv? Surely you can set it to duplicate displays.

>>718739103
>M+KB in bed
nta, but that alone is degenerate

>>718738040
You will never get an X86 machine that's "actually portable" the way you likely intend that.
Just buy one of the ARM based machines that are out there instead.

>>718739196
Nta but use a remote controller or one of breakfast tables that go over your bed

>>718739274
That's why more work than getting a (not so M) UMPC.

>>718739196
I use one of those media center keyboards for most stuff. It works great. And most games are better played with a controller anyways. The only games that need a mouse are point and clicks, RTS's, and shooters, and using a mouse in bed isn't that bad. Not any worse than using a big handheld. But if you do really want to Deck control scheme, the Steam controller exists.

>>718739274
You don't need a table, just a mouse pad with a sturdy hard surface underneath. I put my mouse pad on top of a composition notebook.

>>718738224
The Deck is only relevant on /v/ because /v/ is a Valve board and shills all their games/products. The deck life time sales was something like 3% of the Switch's lifetime sales. Most people don't know nor care about it. Hell more people know about Microsoft's Rog Ally abomination now.

>>718739362
Not really it's like 50 bucks and take a few minutes to set up. It's 20 to make your own and not have to buy chinkshit

Someone post him. I got banned for even evoking his name last time, but I'll risk it.

>>718739209
Bullshit, machines that size already exist. Plently of x86 SBCs, stick PCs and Pi clones that fill that role. The GDP Pocket is nearly an acceptable size, It just lacks controls. Someone could totally build an x86 machine equivalent in power to those ARM machines in the form factor of a PS Vita. Sure it'd be weak by modern standards, but it'd be more than enough to play games ten years old or older, and that still means 90% of the PC library.

>>718731249
There's in my experience a minimal size for a handheld to be actually usable and comfortable.

>>718732042
Someone pointed out that the case is a pretty good size to rest inbetween your chest and the Deck. I've been doing that ever since and it's been just comfortable enough.

>>718730840 (OP)
>AVISO PARA EPILEPTICOS

>>718739504
This. Popular = good. FIFA and COD BLOPS are the bestest games ever.

>>718735498
Wait for the Steamdeck Pro or the Steamdeck 2. Whichever comes last

>>718737949
>The Steamdeck succeeded
>4M sales

>>718730840 (OP)
How much?

>>718731904
Playing modern games on a screen that small sucks. It only works if the game was designed with screencrunch in mind like four they platform exclusively.

>>718731904
Enjoy your games for ants. The entire gimmick of the 'Eck is being able to play most PC games on the go/suspend save companion for PC gamers. Most people who own one have a gaming PC as well, it's just a nice way to take your progress with you.
>But xyz game only runs at 720 barely playable.
Yeah, it's slightly underpowered. But Valve really did pick the smartest price/performance ratio. There are handhelds with better batteries, and they cost way more for barely more life, a worse form factor, less support, etc.

>>718740969
to be fair, it isn't available worldwide

>>718739828
I'd rather just not have all that weight on my chest.

>>718740567
Are you confused? The discussion was about relevance, not good or bad. Or are you an ESL in disguise, Ranjeet?

>>718741472
But Valve really did pick the smartest price/performance ratio
Then they choose a fucking weird resolution to make sure all games will have some kind of issue

If Steamdeck were made by other than Valve no one would have given it the time of the day. PC fags talk about console warriors but you're all a bunch of Valve cocksuckers that refuse to buy a game if it's not on Steam

>>718741472
>Slightly
It's extremely underpowered. But if you're not playing anything demanding past 2021 it's okay.

>There are handhelds with better batteries, and they cost way more for barely more life, a worse form factor, less support, etc.
Usually cost is the issue. I've had a rog ally x for 7 months before selling it and it got standard support and about 40% more gametime than the deck. I heard Asus is actually doing good and still supporting it too. And now with windows entering the mobile market things are looking good.

>>718741819
>Refuse to buy a game.
Nigga it's the ultimate pirate console. The steam games I use it for all work perfectly, but I mostly use it for emulation of basically everything. DS games with the touch controls, as long as you don't mind side-by-side instead? Yup, all there too.

>>718741472
>honorary third world consolefag has never heard of undervolting, news at 11

>>718741881
>Extremely.
Not in the slightest. If you're trying to play "AAAAAA" horrifically optimized 4kslop sure. It still absolutely mogs every single handheld on the market. Especially the Switch 2, which can't even run Elden Ring properly lmao.

>>718737513
If it's small enough to be comfortably used while being held in your hands it's a handheld.

>>718741929
It's almost as if the deck supports undervolting you fucking retard. In fact, nearly every part of its performance is autistically customizable. Learn to linux, bitch.

>>718739590
the guy that puts his dick on his deck?

>>718742082
I just think he's hot.

>>718741958
The steam deck is equivalent to a 970Ti. If you consider that *slightly underpowered* then we have nothing more to discuss.

>>718742253
i remember the days of my trusty old 970 being the coolest thing ever...

>>718730840 (OP)
[New product] is smaller than [4 year old product]??! Say it ain't so!

>>718737513
true but this market was destroyed at 666% by smartphone.

>>718742308
I mean like that Anon said, it still works fine for older games and if you crank down the settings/resolution/use framegen you can get anything but UE5 to run somewhat. It's just that he's completely delusional for thinking it's only "slightly underpowered" lmao

>>718730840 (OP)
Not a huge fan of the grips on the Xbox. The Steam Deck is much prettier.

>>718738224
the rog xbox ally literally has the same cpu and gpu as the steam deck

What does Microsoft expect in sales here because it took 3 years for Steamdeck to sell 4 million. That's just a little better than how long the N-gage was on the market selling 3 million units before being discontinued. Is the victory condition just to sell slightly better than the N-gage?

>>718730840 (OP)
Being an xbox cuck is actual suffering.

>>718744391
Microsoft isn't selling it but Asus. Microsoft doesn't care how much third-party PCs sell. Microsoft just wants to beta-test Xbox full screen experience on Windows 11.

'iny 'ite 'ecker on 'lly

>>718740969
that means it made like 300million in pure profit, minimum

>>718742253
>>718743518
"Underpowered" as compared to battery-sink overpriced fuckhuge handhelds, and even then barely when you factor in the price. Obviously it's not a full gaming PC or even a fucking console, nobody was ever trying to sell it as one. It's a fucking handheld, and a bulky one at that. But every single tablet and competitor is either less powerful and far more limited (but for babies and tendies) or extremely expensive for 20% more play time. Which really only matters if you plan on playing for six hours instead of seven.

>>718744617
Those bezels irritate me

>>718740969
Damn that's literally worse than the Ngage, and its lifetime sale got mogged by the Switch 2 in just three days.
How can steamies still live with this LMAO.

>>718744735
They really are a feature for the touch screen when you have one. The way the sticks are placed, I often find myself resting my thumbs on the bezels, which would activate the mouse in most games. But aesthetically I do understand, different strokes.

>>718744714
unlikely.
steam deck is likely heavily subsidized. leaked rog xbox ally prices have it at $599 which is more than a steam deck while being two years later and having the same cpu and gpu.
nor does gaben like to talk about steam deck finanicals.

>>718744391
It's over for Microsoft's hardware ventures. I'm getting ready to tell you guys how 10th generation is going to go down. 10th generation will be XboxOS vs SteamOS, PS6 vs Switch 2.
Valve:
>Valve will announce Fremont, Deckard, Ibex, Roy, Steam Deck 2, and Half-Life 3 all next year on their 30th anniversary
>Fremont, Ibex, Deckard, and Roy will also release in late 2026, Deck 2 and Half-Life 3 will release in early 2027 all for affordable prices
>Fremont will have prebuilt PC OEMs that cost more than the Fremont but less than Microsoft's Xbox prebuilt PC OEMs
Microsoft:
>Microsoft will release the next gen Xbox in late 2027 for $1200 with a PC handheld OEM that cost less than it but more than the Steam Deck 2 and a prebuilt PCs that cost more than it
Nintendo:
>While Valve continues to dominate the PC space Nintendo will continue to dominate the console space with the Switch 2 releasing an OLED refresh in 2027 promoting more exclusive games
Sony:
>Sony will release the PS6 Orion and the PS6 Canis in late 2027
>both will cost significantly more than the Switch 2 especially the Orion with no games with the Canis being able to play even less

Results:
>Microsoft's and Sony's multiplat strategies will hurt them even more here leading to them failing so hard they just go fully third party and drop the Xbox and PlayStation entirely
>Console gaming will be owned by Nintendo
>PC gaming will be owned by Valve
There is no future for Xbox or PlayStation going forward, best to make the jump now.

>>718744617
Does this mean that Windows desktop is literally working in the background while Xbox is running?

>>718744391
It will outsell the Switch 2, with 6 million devices sold day 1.

>>718745043
lmao

>>718744898
Only thing good about this is that there will be more games optimized for Steam Deck until the Steam Deck 2 hits in 2027.

>>718745043
How do you bake 6 million breads in one day? There's not enough ovens.

>>718745037
no, windows desktop only runs on demand. but needs a restart once you have entered windows to unload windows again.

I want a handheld gaming device that fits in my pocket.

'ecker here. Ask me anything regarding the 'eck.
And no I will not post my 'ick on it.

>>718735498
save and get the deckard

>>718745236
Why is the steam deck still so expensive? Here in the UK it costs as much as a Switch 2.

>>718744738
>>718741758
>but the switch!
the deck fulfilled its purpouse by not only spawning more pc handhelds but also popularizing steamOS.
valve is a private company, they don't care about fat numbers as long as the product does its job and that's taking the leading spot in a new market.
they can play the long game instead of having (((investors))) breathing down their neck demanding exponential growth

>>718745384
I figure it may have to do something with tariffs and Valve's own limited production. Do you buy it directly from Valve or 3rd party importers? 3rd parties tend to be more expensive.
Official refurbished Decks from Valve tend to be cheaper than the Switch 2 though.

>>718745474
The OLED Steam Deck ordered from Valve costs more than the Switch 2, and even the LCD Steam Deck is only £30 cheaper than the Switch 2, those are expensive prices for just a handheld console.

>>718744815
True. I can see the functionality for having the dead space the bezels provide. They just look bad on the top and bottom though

>>718745629
>About $642
Damn that's expensive. Valve doesn't sell to my country so I had to buy my 1tb OLED from a 3rd party seller for nearly $650, but at that price for the 512gb model is a rip off.

>>718745848
I figure at those prices I might as well buy a handheld+home console Switch 2 instead of a steam deck

>>718745737
>>718745795
I'm really courting a permaban, but I don't care, ick on eck is /v/ culture. I am part of no groomer club, I just think a fat man humping a screen is very funny.

>>718745156
Okay but this seems to only shed 2GB of RAM from Windows, basically games will perform better but still worse than games being played in SteamOS.

>>718730840 (OP)
It's the Ally, of course it's smaller
It doesn't have the touchpads
The screen size is whatever, honestly I want more not less than the deck. I feel like playing AAA titles on that screen size is disgusting.
Why the fuck would you buy a microsoft edition though? When you can run most games that actually would run on a fucking Ally better over SteamOS? I can only think of shit like playing Valorant and weebering waves on it. I can't imagine playing shooters with analogs only god that's fucking disgusting. At least if it had capacitive sticks and gyro it'd be serviceable.

The fucking software solution Microsoft shilled with how they improved windows is completely fucking half-assed.

Basically a pig with lipstick deal where at the end of the day, it still has all the same damn problems winblows has.

The Deck OLED costs 540€ here brand new, 512GB
The Xbox Ally costs 599€ or at least that is what is rumoured
All I see the Ally has is better performance and Windows is preinstalled. I don't see an OLED screen or HDR support, no touchpads, no gimmicks, what about battery life when playing non-demanding stuff?

>>718747316
OLED is a gay meme.
HDR is a gay meme.
Trackpads are a gay meme.
SteamOS is a gay meme.

>>718747352
Your existence is a gay meme

>>718732042
I dont have a deck but the Switch 2 is really damn heavy, still, I just use a pillow

>>718747316
>>718747352
The Steam OS Legion go mogged the Windows Legion go, and it was also cheaper.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CJXp3UYj50Q&pp=ygURbGVnaW9uIGdvIHN0ZWFtb3M%3D

>>718747479
No shit. It's a reason why everyone was eagerly waiting for Valve to release it and why there's been so many alternatives. Microsoft can't put together a proper OS for handhelds.

>>718747579
>Microsoft can't put together a proper OS for handhelds.
Microsoft can't put together a proper OS

>>718747316
The base Xbox Ally is just using the same chip the Deck is using you retard

>>718747479
The Steam Deck 2 is going to smoke Xbox OEM Magnus handhelds.

>>718747673
So what you're telling me is that there's even less of a reason to buy the Xbox Ally over the Deck OLED

>>718731249
1080p pc games sometimes dont scale the best to smaller screens, text can legit become unreadable and in 2025, games dont take 720p into account

>>718747784
I'd argue just dont buy both

>>718744391
I think Microsoft's main goal for this is to stop SteamOS before it gets too big. They saw Lenovo making SteamOS version of their handheld and got spooked.

>>718747841
>>718747784
This, the Switch 2 mogs both. Just buy a Switch 2.

>>718748020
They're kind of stupid, this really won't help anything since people can still just download and install SteamOS on their AMD handhelds including the ones using this "new" XboxOS. It's also not going to help them against the Steam Deck 2. They're simply just helping Valve get more optimized games ready for verification for the Steam Deck and Steam Deck 2. Valve already won. Valve has no interest in challenging Microsoft.

>>718735498
Only if you REALLY want to play steam games on the go. I had one and ended up selling it because at home I'd always use my desktop instead, and out of it I was always doing something else other than playing games.

>>718748073
Different market. You shouldn't be going after the Steam Deck, you should be getting ready to shit on the PS6 Canis since that's what's laughably going against the Switch 2 to try and fail to take back Japan from Nintendo.

>>718737513
Is the entire system held in your hands
Yes or no motherfucker

>>718735498
Wait for the Steam Deck 2, it'll be able to play indies, AAs, and AAAs along with Half-Life 3.

>>718747673
This is the thing I don't get. Even the Z1 chip in the base Ally thrashed the Deck's Zen 2 chip to death, why they went completely backwards with a worse chip in the Xbox Ally is completely beyond me.

>>718748239
Switch games won't run on a PS. but Switch games do run on a Deck.

Even worse, it just runs windows 11 like all the other pc handhelds.

>>718748572
I'd say linux lost but it wasn't even in the race lmao. Even fagbooks are preferred over troonix

>>718748480
Barely, you either buy both if you want the games, if you're not going to contribute then get fucked. Pirating Nintendo games on a Deck instead using these handhelds the way they're actually meant to be used just makes a person a commie turdworlder who's poor as shit.

>>718748460
xbox controllers are expensive. even then, only the rog xbox ally z gets the full xbox controllers. rog xbox ally won't have impulse triggers

>>718748657
Xbox controllers are liked for their form factor. The buttons are the same cheap shit as every other console.

>>718730840 (OP)
Does the Windows version they developed for handhelds offer any performance benefits compared to regular windows?

>>718748460
Jeetsoft desperately wanted to match the Deck.

>>718748873
Only in the Xbox full screen experience mode but it's still shit compared to the SteamOS's Gaming Mode performance.

>>718748873
https://www.theverge.com/notepad-microsoft-newsletter/763357/microsoft-asus-xbox-ally-handheld-hands-on-notepad
>Microsoft doesn’t load the desktop wallpaper, the taskbar, or a bunch of other processes that you don’t need for gaming. It’s essentially not loading the Explorer shell and saving around 2GB of memory by suppressing all the unnecessary parts of a typical Windows 11 installation.
>Alongside the Xbox Ally release date announcement, Microsoft also revealed this week that it’s bringing Automatic Super Resolution (Auto SR), which uses an NPU to upscale games, to the Xbox Ally X in early 2026.
>The DirectX team at Microsoft is working on a new “advanced shader delivery” system that’s designed to preload game shaders during download on the Xbox Ally devices. It’s launching on these handhelds first, to make games launch faster and run a lot smoother without stutters. It’s similar to Valve’s own efforts to improve the shader situation, and Microsoft says it will eventually expand this to more games and more devices over time.

>>718748179
>this really won't help anything since people can still just download and install SteamOS on their AMD handhelds including the ones using this "new" XboxOS.
Yes they can but is there any reason why people want to do that? Well right now there are. Despite some games not compatible with SteamOS, some people still prefer it over Windows because of how garbage the user experience and performance of Windows on handheld PC. So what Microsoft is trying to do right now is eliminating those reasons.
They don't care if you buy your games on Steam. They probably understand they can't beat Steam as PC games storefront. As long as you use Windows and subscribe to Gamepass, they're good.

>>718749042
>they can't beat Steam as PC games storefront. As long as you use Windows and subscribe to Gamepass, they're good.
??
gamepass doesn't work within steam but needs ms's storefront

>>718748974
>>718749006
So it's essentially Windows 11 with a debloater script applied and nothing special about it?

I don't know what I was expecting from Jeetsoft

>>718749179
Yeah, only stops Windows from using 2GB of RAM, that's it.

>>718749042
This sounds dead on arrival.

>>718749126
Huh? Yeah, people don't buy games on MS storefront and Microsoft know that. So they gave up trying to compete with Steam and pushing hard for Gamepass. Which is why they don't have any problem promoting other storefronts on the Xbox Ally.

>>718749228
And the worst part is that all the other retarded "quirks" of Windows are still there.

>>718749414
https://www.theverge.com/notepad-microsoft-newsletter/763357/microsoft-asus-xbox-ally-handheld-hands-on-notepad
>The Windows desktop experience is exactly the same as any regular handheld, and the Xbox team hasn’t done much additional work here to improve this side of the Xbox Ally. You’ll still have to use this part of the device to install and configure Windows apps like Discord and Steam, but once they’re up and running, you can mostly stay within the handheld-optimized confines of the Xbox full-screen experience. It’s easy to connect to Bluetooth devices or Wi-Fi networks here, and if all you’re doing is gaming, then Microsoft has nailed most of the basics, thanks to the widgets in the Game Bar.
>This is still a Windows 11 device after all, which means there are OS updates and notifications from other apps or storefronts to install that might break the immersion.
>For example, while the Xbox app takes over the left-hand swipe gesture to activate the Game Bar, the right-hand swipe still activates the Windows 11 notification center, which looks out of place in the Xbox UI. The Xbox team is working to improve this, but it highlights the challenges of trying to hide Windows beneath a console-like UI.

>>718749286
there are no bad products, only bad prices.
price it at $300 and it will sell out.

>>718749414
Jesus fucking Christ, they're going to try to offset this with a lot of RAM for the next gen Xbox and its OEMs while the Steam Deck 2 will be able to stick with 16GB of RAM with no issue. The Xbox experience will be worse next gen because of Windows bloat, Copilot will only add to that. They're also the only retards who are going to be using NPUs next gen.

>>718749603
This shit is going to be $600 and $900, lol

>>718749495
I hate Microsoft so much its unreal

>>718749673
It's like they're not even trying to make a gaming OS, SteamOS works because it was specifically made for gaming.

>>718749721
Its all reactive

They only did this because steamOS spooked them

>>718749667
tbf that's the standard non Steam Deck handheld PC prices

>>718749760
This is sounding like Sony's current handheld ventures for next gen because they're scared of the Switch 2 and want to take back Japan despite not having a Japan Studios anymore and PlayStation being an American branch now.

>>718731249
The only drawback of being larger is weight and slightly more screen power consumption
Otherwise it's all good, bigger battery, better cooling, bigger screen that you can hold further away

>>718749627
playstation keeps winning.
valve will always be too cheap for custom cpu cores.

>>718749770
Steam Deck starts at $399 for the LCD, and $549 for the base OLED. Steam Deck costs less.

>>718749627
playstation keeps winning.
valve will always be too cheap for custom cpu cores.

>>718749849
That's what I said.

>>718749828
But Valve will use a low-powered custom AMD APU for the Steam Deck 2 though.

>>718730840 (OP)
idk the size difference seems negligible
I'm more annoyed at these things.

>>718749913
Why is the Rog Xbox Ally so god damn thick?

>>718749901
min order size for custom amd chips is around five million. valve is too risk-averse for this.
deck (1) was just lucky that some failed ar startup already had ordered a custom amd chip.

[SAD NEWS] Deckfags are still gay

>>718731904
Unfortunately anon x86 phones do not exist.
And Google is too gay to possibly integrate wine into android as a library for games
(Yes you can do x86 to ARM translation on top of Proton/wine)

Best thing you can do is get a controller and play the games that already exist.
>>718749954
idk

>>718750006
They'll probably use a highly-customized version of Microsoft's rumored Magnus chip for the Steam Deck 2 but cutdown and in low-powered mode. Sounds like something Valve would do, and I think that's what rumors are saying they're doing anyways.

>>718750098
You don't need x86 phones actually
Proton ARM is already being worked on and from there it's only a matter of time before valve nicely wraps it up into a phone big picture environment and sells controllers for it
Demanding pocket sized gaming solutions is retarded when everyone already carries those, they're just shit right now

>>718730840 (OP)
>luggable consoles
can't beat the 'eck, man.
nobody can beat the 'eck.

>>718750239
>Proton ARM is already being worked on and from there it's only a matter of time before valve nicely wraps it up into a phone big picture environment and sells controllers for it
Honestly the real question is why isn't Google doing it.
Imagine how easy it would be to port your game on a phone then.

>>718750118
unlikely.

magnus is multi-die like strix halo. sea of wires to connect multiple dies is expensive.
look at amd's current offerings. just strix halo is multi-die because only for their flagship offering it makes sense. the rest are monoliths.

>>718750501
Because they make bank off gacha and p2w mtx
You think they care about whether the games on Google play are actually fun?
Nah, this would be bad for them actually, now you've taught boomers that there are games more fun than match 3 and freed up the phone only third worlder gambling addicted cookers
Costs money, lowers profits

>>718750750
So basically, what you're saying is that they'll use an AMD APU based on Zen 6 UDNA but it'll be heavily stripped down like they did with the Steam Deck 1's Zen 2 RDNA 2, in order to reach their balance of performance and efficiency that they want?

>>718750006
steam has a better relationship with AMD than most though

>>718731249
The paddles are the greatest meme. they are hard to click because your fingers don't have good leverage there unlike on the front, so they're no good for sharp timing. then it hurts my large hands to try to hold my fingers there.

Does AMD even have a low TDP powerhouse chip that Valve wants yet?

>>718750912
valve god damn it

>>718750831
amd off-the-shelf designs are all cpu-heavy because that's what laptops need. valve will likely only order a clocked-down version of that.
only sony will actually order a gpu-heavy custom design because ps6 will have the economies of scale to justify that.

>>718750941
RDNA 6? They need one that supports FSR4

>>718751006
In the end though, it would lead to the Steam Deck 2 costing less than the PS6 handheld despite both having Zen 6 UDNA?

>>718750941
valve is free to order a custom design. min order size is around five million chips and amd wants to make a profit.

>>718751118
unlikely.

off-the-shelf strix halo pcs cost around $1,000. strix halo is comparable to a ps5 and five years late. a ps5 launched at $500.

>>718730840 (OP)
So this thing only plays Xbox games?

>>718751227
But Valve wouldn't use off-the-shelf parts, they'll have a custom chip made and subsidize the handheld using the Steam Store.

>>718751325
https://rog.asus.com/content/rog-xbox-ally/
>Powered by Windows 11, the ROG Xbox Ally and Xbox Ally X give you access to your full library of PC games from Xbox and other game stores as well. Whether you're into indie gems or AAA blockbusters, or classic games with custom mods installed, you can play them all.

I havent been following AMD for a while now
Which of their chips support FSR 4 going forward because those are probably what valve will want

And ideally it should be able to punch up at 10-15W

>>718751438
Sounds pretty good. Wonder what the average battery life is.

>>718730840 (OP)
Are those handles on they Ally comfortable? They look really uncomfortable.

>>718751504
rdna4 in theory.

but sony said they can port it to the ps5 pro. so if you have enough rdna3.5 computation units you might be able to eat the penalty for not having native fp8 like rdna4 that fsr4 wants.

>>718751853
xbox ally is not release yet. holding it five minutes at gamescon doesn't tell you much.

>>718730840 (OP)
>implying being bigger is better
That's why I stay with my 3DS

>>718753283
but my 3ds is bigger than all those? aren't you using the 3d feature?

>>718730840 (OP)
why does it look like it has a garbage 3d printed shell

>>718753283
bigger means bigger screen means you're holding it further away and maybe even on your lap which trivialises the weight that comes from increased size

>>718737949
>steam deck succeeded
>4 million units sold by February 2025

>hasn't even outsold neither the Wii U nor the Vita

LMAO

>>718755071
considering it was in low volume production not available in any of the normie retailers? yes, it succeeded
the goal of the deck was to instill the idea of umpcs, to improve the linux experience and to get proton test results
a big launch would be stupid, they're not nintendo, they can't fomo their users with bing bing wahoo, they need to sell the experience

>>718735498
The Deck is by far the best gaming purchase I have ever made and I have a good desktop and 30 years worth of now obsoleted consoles. I have hundreds of games played on it at this point. It's not good for just one game, it's a backlog killer.

>>718740969
>the deck sells only 1 unit
>valve shrugs
>the switch 2 sells only 10 million units
>nintendo in flames and forced to go third party
Entirely different levels of expectations, marketing, physical presence, global availability, etc. That is to say, valve does virtually nothing to push the deck while nintendo throws the entire kitchen sink behind the switch 2 because if it flounders, everything else they do fails with it.

>>718730840 (OP)
That looks like nearly the exact same size, just with a faggy grip and worse button placement.

the future of vidya is phones running proton, 'ecks, console shaped pcs and desktops, ordered by performance
fuck laptops, they chased the thin meme and they have nothing to show for it

>>718755687
You can tell the interest for the Deck caught Valve off guard because it took a full year for them to make enough just to fulfill the initial demand.
Valve doesn't put anything into marketing or retailers, they just support and improve the Deck itself. Their method for selling the Deck is simple, they just rely on it being such a ridiculous good system that people hear about it and want to buy it.

>>718755825
It's cloud computing and owning even less than now

>>718756443
stadia flopped and geforce now is basically irrelevant outside of turbocattle