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Anonymous No.718753161 >>718753567 >>718753623 >>718753810 >>718754034 >>718754083 >>718754138 >>718754141 >>718754149 >>718754171 >>718754196 >>718754204 >>718754325 >>718755856 >>718755932
the necessity of labbing is what makes fighting games unfun
Anonymous No.718753248 >>718753302 >>718753683
idk what labbing is because i don't play fighting games i only know about my lab that's where i do all my science, you could say i'm "labbing" every day down at the lab, that's where i do my science, i go down to the lab and do my science that's just what i do
Anonymous No.718753263 >>718753315
Stop trying to tell me what fun is.
Anonymous No.718753302
>>718753248
>t.
Anonymous No.718753315 >>718754034
>>718753263
fun is organic improvement
not studying frame data
get a life
Anonymous No.718753429
labbing is fun, actually
Anonymous No.718753567 >>718753706 >>718753814
>>718753161 (OP)
Back in the 90s, Americans didn't lab. Back then nobody even realize they can parry an entire super or Aegis Reflector was ever usable. Only the Japs do labbing and when they went to America they showed everybody how to min-max SF3.
Anonymous No.718753623 >>718753706 >>718753814
>>718753161 (OP)
>the necessity
Only if you convince yourself it's a necessity

We played fighting games for nearly twenty years without that shit. You picked up how to play by playing. There was no guidebook for Street Fighter 2 (until years later).

Half of the fighting games on Playstation touted their robust 1-player modes because they knew that's how most people would be playing them. You would buy Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution with the intention of playing it by yourself. You didn't lab shit, to impress who? Your friend Mike?

You either like fighting games or you don't. If you aren't already in the top 500 of a game, stop trying to be. For 1/4 of that effort you could get an associate's degree or an electrician's certification and have a skill that isn't directly tied in to a handful of angry internet virgins.
Anonymous No.718753683
>>718753248
What do you mean lab? Like a labrador or something? I don't know much about the dogs.
Anonymous No.718753706
>>718753567
>>718753623
>Back in my day
The future is now, old man
Anonymous No.718753750
tbf you don't have to study framedata for the first 100+ hours of gameplay
you can very much get Master rank with little to no labbing, just bashing your head against ranked
so OP is just a little bitch as per usual
Quickdraw McAnon No.718753810
>>718753161 (OP)
for you!
Anonymous No.718753814 >>718753918 >>718753951 >>718754153 >>718754171 >>718754584 >>718754970
>>718753623
>>718753567
try playing online fighting games today and tell me how far you get without labbing
iron rank newbies in sf6 are spamming knowledge checks
the genre is dead
Quickdraw McAnon No.718753918
>>718753814
I got to diamond without labbing after mostly playing with friends, no prior SF experience either as i was a SNK kid
Anonymous No.718753951
>>718753814
I don't know what labbing even is and I got to silver yesterday. It's not much but I played for like 10 hours total and had fun.
Anonymous No.718754034
>>718753161 (OP)
>>718753315
I made it to master without labbing, just learning as I go
All I hear is excuses
Anonymous No.718754083
>>718753161 (OP)
Casuals like you are the target audience for modern slop like sf6
Anonymous No.718754138
>>718753161 (OP)
It's fun to figure out how to beat stuff. Replay takeover is the greatest feature ever when it comes to learning.
Anonymous No.718754141
>>718753161 (OP)
stay out then you faggot
easy as that
Anonymous No.718754149
>>718753161 (OP)
are you going to evo or something? just play the game nigger
Anonymous No.718754153
>>718753814
you're just straight-up lying
Anonymous No.718754171
>>718753814
>>718753161 (OP)
Honestly, I think it depends on your mindset. Aggressive players can, as you say, spam moves that are difficult to intuitively defend against, and find a decent amount of success. Players who try to play reactively and methodically will struggle even in low ranks against these sorts of players.
If you want to pick a cool character, do some combo trials, and spam these moves in ranked. You can easily hit Diamond, or even Masters, without any labbing.
If you want to play defensively, you'll constantly be overwhelmed with endless rushdown. Your only option will be to brute force matchups until you intuitively figure out through trial and error what to do against moves/characters you struggle with. If this sounds like you, you won't have much fun.
On the other hand, like I said, if you enjoy being aggressive and mixing up powerful moves, you can win easily against the scrubs you play on ranked. Be warned, however. You'll hit a brutal wall in Masters after you start facing players who labbed and are aware of your gimmicks.
I think this exact scenario happened with Tyler1, actually. The dude spammed modern controls Guile to Masters, and hit a plateau because players know how to deal with his gimmicky turtle playstyle.

https://youtu.be/tDLggVF0qbU

The real question is, which mindset will you take? The long term "fundamental" mindset of learning frame data, footsies, neutral pressure, anti-airs, and whiff punishes?
Or will you spam a cheese strat until you hit a wall, and then quit?
Anonymous No.718754196 >>718754371
>>718753161 (OP)
Doesnt matter if your a casual
You can literally headbutt your way to masters with Honda and nobody will give a fuck, I actually like not dropping my combos and seeing my execution get better fucking around in practice mode
Anonymous No.718754204
>>718753161 (OP)
>Learn a basic bnb
>Learn a combo you can use off a punish counter
>Learn a combo that can leads into super
That's all you need to get to masters. Everything else is fundamentals. Learning a big fuck fuck off 70% damage combo is nice and all, but if you're never in a position to actually use it, it's completely worthless to learn. Someone that can hit you with jab jab jab tatsumaki 12 times is much better than someone that hits their huge combo once. That kind of damage optimization only matters in super high ladder, but you'll be good enough to learn decent combos before then.
Anonymous No.718754325 >>718754359
>>718753161 (OP)
You can't even lab in SFVI because characters are behind pay-walls, that's one of the many reasons nobody considers it a real fighting game. Shit game for zoomers.
Anonymous No.718754359
>>718754325
filtered lmao
Anonymous No.718754371 >>718754403 >>718754437
>>718754196
>execution
>SF6
You 'people' are fucking retarded.
Anonymous No.718754403 >>718754445
>>718754371
Do you know what execute means? Like the actual word?
Anonymous No.718754437 >>718754569
>>718754371
does sf6 have easier execution requirements compared to other games? i've only played it and tekken 8
Anonymous No.718754445
>>718754403
Don't you see anon? He's really hardcore!
Anonymous No.718754569 >>718754615 >>718754706
>>718754437
SF6 has the easiest execution requirements of any SF ever. Any average player can do any combo. Meanwhile in, say, SF4 people couldn't do jackshit. There's no execution in SF6.
Anonymous No.718754584 >>718754784
>>718753814
There's a free strategy guide in their pockets at all times in 2025. There's probably 30-40 hours worth of Youtube videos for every fighting game telling you how to follow a formula to win.

I have mixed feelings about that, since on one hand you're a fool if you don't use that since 95% of your opponents will. On the other hand it ruins the entire experience by boiling it down to a formula that discourages experimentation and sucks every last fucking drop of soul out of playing.

There was a time when you just picked a character because you thought they were cool and then did everything you could to master them. Youtube was a decade away and the internet was fucking Newsgroups and a few thousand vanity websites. I mastered Spinal on KI2 just because I wanted to. No one told me he was low-tier, no one told me he had bad frame recovery, no one cared. We just put fucking quarters in and had fun.
Anonymous No.718754615 >>718754741
>>718754569
what enables this? larger buffer periods? simpler combos?
sorry if these questions are annoying but i have no idea how difficult combos would be in sf4
Anonymous No.718754706 >>718755158
>>718754569
Oh your one of those faggots thats stuck in the past
Anonymous No.718754741 >>718755946
>>718754615
Changes in buffering, lenient cancel link frames, more lenient input registering, longer animations/faster spacing between moves in general and so on. You aren't annoying, but there's no execution in SF6. Just like there isn't real footsies.
Anonymous No.718754784 >>718754901
>>718754584
it turns the game into a predictable rote memorization test based on your depth of knowledge
there is zero fun in this
the joy modern fighting game players experience doesn't come from the arbitrary fun of actually playing the game, but from the validation they get when their effort pays off and they feel like winners

fake gamers indulging in a low IQ genre, unironically
Anonymous No.718754901 >>718755229
>>718754784
its a fun video game bro, relax.
Anonymous No.718754970 >>718755004
>>718753814
The genre has been dead since SFV desu, SF6 is just a nail in the coffin.
Anonymous No.718755004
>>718754970
you dont really believe in what youre saying bro
Anonymous No.718755158 >>718755287
>>718754706
>new thing is objectively worse than old thing
>HURR DURR YOUR A FAGET WHO THINK OLD THING GOOD
Anonymous No.718755229 >>718755350 >>718755981
>>718754901
>memorizing frame data so i can feel like a winner for once in my pathetic hopeless life is fun
grow up
you don't play for fun
you play to appeal to your crippling insecurities by investing thousands of hours into accomplishing a convoluted power fantasy where you finally feel superior to another human being for once
pathetic and shameful
this soulless mindset is everything wrong with gaming
from day one, there's always been at least one deranged freak who takes things too seriously, and forces the conscious human beings with lively souls to stop experiencing intrinsic joy from the process of play in order to maintain the ability to participate in the activity
you're the guy who cuts lines and forces everybody else to do the same or be stuck waiting forever
the guy who cuts people off in traffic and causes pileups
the freak who cares only about himself and nobody else

>don't wanna lab my cheese?
>enjoy getting chain perfected lol
>get fucked loser
>go study or play something else
we used to play games for fun
then you came in
and forced us out
and every time we go somewhere new
you follow
like a starving rodent
and feast on the high-trust joy we provide to those with empathy

get a life
Anonymous No.718755230
mad because bad
Anonymous No.718755287 >>718755759 >>718755929
>>718755158
SFIV still has players online all these years bro, why havent you kept playing it its there available on ps4 and pc and in both you’ll find matches. nah youre just a shitter
Anonymous No.718755350 >>718755531
>>718755229
damn bro all I said is that its a fun gamr
and it is bro
not reading your shit man get help dude
Anonymous No.718755531 >>718755612
>>718755350
you people ruin everything
Anonymous No.718755612
>>718755531
youll be okay bro
Anonymous No.718755759 >>718755871
>>718755287
>You should have spent the last 17 years mastering the intentionally difficult on-the-frame combos for a game that was outsold by DJ Hero so you can be "gud" and criticize fighting games properly

FG devotees are deranged. If you aren't going to Evo, why would you bother wasting your life "labbing" games people dropped a decade ago? Is this just what autism + too much testosterone does to a nigga?
Anonymous No.718755856
>>718753161 (OP)
Basics will get you very far desu
No point in learning 10-move combos when you can't properly block or attack
Anonymous No.718755871
>>718755759
all I asked is why arent you playing SFIV bro geez man you are schizo af bro
I play it from time to time but on playstation let me know if you wanna go at a ft10 bro nah youre just a shitter lol
Anonymous No.718755929
>>718755287
Needing 1f links to connect a couple crouching jabs is what makes fighting games good, it is known
Anonymous No.718755932
>>718753161 (OP)
>the necessity of learning how the game works makes the game unfun

I guess you can see it that way
Anonymous No.718755946
>>718754741
>Just like there isn't real footsies
Someone post THE webm
Anonymous No.718755981
>>718755229
lmao the absolute state
Anonymous No.718756046 >>718756190
it's a different kind of fun
you could say it is not fun at all but it is still something that fulfills you
I doubt a lot of competitive activities or skills are performed because they're the cheap kind of fun you seek
Anonymous No.718756190
>>718756046
seeing the rank go up every season and the improvement being made is fun as fuck for a neet like me ngl
Anonymous No.718756293
unrelated but does anyone here know where i can find KoF98 slugfest combos outside of Supercombo?