Thread 718754252

i have movementslop fatigue

>>718754252 (OP)
Most platformers get turned into movement and momentum eventually.

i am too old to know what that means

Why did underages latch onto the "I have ___ fatigue" meme? I hear it so often now and it pretty much never comes from someone posting something good, it's always some soijak or bait thread or someone using some other e-kiddie memespeak, why is that? Is it a phrase commonly used in whatever circles they hang out in outside of /v/ or something?

>>718754327
It’s not turn based game

>>718754252 (OP)
KILL ALL TWITTER NIGGERS AND ALL TWITTER SCREENSHOT POSTERS

>>718754327
I think it's when a game has a bunch of movement options for speedrunners to dilate over. Instead of doing the stage normally you chain 5 midair jumps together to leap an entire chasm

>[thing I hate] slop
it's so tiring

>>718754483
>Instead of doing the stage normally you chain 5 midair jumps together to leap an entire chasm
and what's wrong with that?

>>718754483
>to dilate over
can't you kids stay in the sharty and not try and immigrate here?

>>718754508
I can't do it so it's a tryhard tech

>>718754532
you will be a woman

>>718754672
wait what?

>>718754327
It's better to have no gameplay than gameplay.
Player engaging with the game through a wide variety of flexible game mechanics to use makes for a complex unpredictable game and that's bad. Aka. "Slop" as in "pig slop" but for games.

Examples of anti-slop include: Auto-Runners, Idle-games, FIFA, MOBAs, CoD.
Games that minimize player expression directly or indirectly to create a well crafted and curated experience that is simple and easy to consume, one simple way to play, depth coming from the memorized and repetitive execution instead, making these games, the chess of the videogame world.

>>718754483
you add a score to that and i'm on board

What happened to berd?

>>718754508
trivializes the actual platforming

>>718756221
By having a higher execution barrier? Leave it to zoomers to be so stupid they make a Bubsy cashgrab look good.

>>718756221
Isn't rewarding the player for skillful gameplay just standard practice?

>____ slop
>i have nothing of worth to contribute in any discussion about video games

>>718754397
I wasn't paying too much attention, but I think it started with 'black fatigue'. It rang so true in people's minds that even those who vehemently reject such opinions still internalized the concept behind it and started utilizing the phrase for things they were tired of.

>can't play anything because it's slop
>actionslop
>movementslop
>combatslop
>puzzleslop
>reactionslop
>timingslop
etc

>>718754252 (OP)
>>718754483
Mario Odyssey

>>718756551
>retarded /pol/roach thinks his shit smell isn't sticking out

>>718756221
How?
The regular route through the level is right there if you want it.
>Regular route, ordinary platforming, no execution barrier
>Short cut, high risk/reward, high execution barrier
>Freedom of choice up to the player
?

>>718756620
>OP is literally a derivative of goyslop
>m-muh /pol/
You lost the culture war.

>>718756553
Luckily everything I like is slop free.

>>718754827
You're a pretentious twat that doesn't know his ass from his elbow. Layering on pointless mechanics to use a crutch for lack of game design does not a good game make. "movementslop" is referring to this notion that everything has to be smooth and frictionless, which trivializes the difficulty of the game. In the past movement was "clunky" because it's only possible to have level design if the player has some form of limitation.

>>718756805
Post what you like

>>718756553
>goodslop

hey zoomies, you aren't in highschool anymore
havent been for a while in fact
you can stop being scared of someone in the hallways noticing you caring about something and recording you to put on tiktok

you can't tell this is a joke making fun of ___slop?

>>718756310
Games with movement like this very rarely push the movement system to its limits. Take Hat in time, where you can jump-doublejump-airdash throuhg the game with very little effort, even challenge levels are trivialized by it. You have to play user created levels to get actually challenged. Compare that to 3D-mario games that usually have some more complicated mechanic to master if you want to jump higher or longer.

>>718756903
>twitterslop

>>718756812
>Techniques with a high execution barrier trivialize the game's "real" difficulty
You're fucking washed, old man. Skill issue.

>>718756921
>Compare that to 3D-mario games
Even the 2D mario games were movement slop of their era. Compare them to ghosts n goblins

>>718756947
The execution barrier is knee-high. That's the issue.

>>718756921
I see nothing wrong with this. 3D Mario games themselves are for children and you need to find user generated modmaps for anything hard as well. The idea of a game's mechanics allowing a skill ceiling that the devs didn't even program in is older than you are. It's not like the super metroid devs ever thought people would do glitch less reverse boss order runs. The game just lets you.

>>718756947
>the guy I'm replying to says execution is "memorized and repetitive"
>zoomzoom comes at me with this bs
Learn 2 read kiddo

>>718754327
zoomers desire walking sims

>>718754327
It just means that it's one of those 3D platformers where instead of having skillful movement, you simply get access to triple jumps and dashes and shit
Basically Mario 64 without any skill required to pull off skips

>>718756976
>we've got rollslop, speedrunnerslop, actionslop, platinumslop, arcadeslop, co-op games with slop

>>718754827
> It's better to have no gameplay than gameplay
Triple A game executive go to bed

>>718757093
>zoomers desire walking sims
Zoomers desire gameplay. Even casuals and women desire gameplay more than so called gamers.
>madden
>FIFA
>cod
>bejeweled
>fortnite
Pure no-frills gameplay. And "gamers" shit on them because they don't have the production values of last of us or the sºylent saturday morning cartoon aesthetic of kiddie mascot platformers.

>>718757169
>co-op games with slop
That's called friendslop

>>718757258
I know but the lines of the spam sketch don't work out that way

>>718757246
t. zoomer who doesn't know how bad things have gotten

>>718756823
Devil May Cry
Titanfall 2
Tribes:Ascend
Portal
GuiltyGears
UmJammer Lammy

>>718757324
>comboslop
>movementslop
>skiingslop
>redditpuzzleslop
>arcsysslop
>rhythmslop

>>718754532
apologies miss

>>718754252 (OP)
Isn't the guy who used to make short funneh animations? Never expected him to turn out to be a fag

>>718755259
forgotten because hes an unfunny loser and is now too busy pretending to be a tf2 player

>>718757246
It's funny you mention cod because one of the biggest complaints about modern cod is that the movement is too good, that people who know how to exploit the bhopping and sliding physics can use you to farm clips and your only recourse is to be better at the movement than them. Zoomer gamer culture is all about demanding that features be removed because losing equals cyberbullying until only 3 real videogame archetypes remain: (1) singleplayer walking sims that are dumbed down for retards (2) North Korean pvp games where you get banned for saying gg no re (3) schizophrenically masochistic singeplayer games where all of the industry's hardcore is concentrated

>>718754252 (OP)
>Post made 8 hours ago
>Drastic difference between likes and retweets
>1 million views
I'm so sick and tired of obvious botting. Elon is a fucking nigger for lying about getting rid of the bots.

>>718754252 (OP)
Reminder that the first speedrun of bubsy 3d happened soon after Joueur du Grenier made a video about it, showing how awful this game is, to the point that it could be considered the worst game ever, even worse than Superman 64.

>>718757549
What is the point of botting on twitter? Who exactly pays you for views on a tweet?

so what isn't slop

>>718757082
I think the idea of most modern mario games is that you can play through the game in toddler mode, where you make simple jumps. And then there's more challenging movement styles more seasoned gamers can play the game faster and not get bored. Problem with "movementslop" games is that they have simple to execute movement gimmick and the level design is still very safe.

>>718757528
I thought his little skits were funny :(

>>718757598
all the games I play

>>718757573
>no one speedran a known 5th gen 3D platformer before literal who eceleb
Yeah, no.

>>718757291
I'm a 30 year old boomer that only plays mame, ps2, and famicom games

>>718757246
>>Zoomers desire gameplay
Zoomers don't buy or play games outside of freemium shit in the first place you retarded fucking nigger. All you losers do is watch streamers play games.

>>718757594
Dopamine, and forcing your way into the algorithm.

Why do so many fags think it's cool to hate on the hobby they like? If everything is slop just go do something else

>>718757598
Stuff that's very refined yet generally unpopular. Slop is tasteless easy to digest sludge for the masses.

>>718757594
Some people it’s for clout, it also pushes your dogshit opinions into other people’s feeds and maybe some retard who agrees with you will give you a real interaction and throw you some patreon bucks.

What pic related does right and what modern platformers fail to understand is commitment to your moves. Doing a glorified QTE to leap over a big pit might make you feel like you're a skilled player, but it lacks the subtlety of having your move choices matter, which is punishing to shitters and not compatible with "game over is a failure of the developer" design philosophy.

That doesn't sound sloppy at all, more like soulful

>>718757718
Because zoomers think being cynical and nihilistic makes up for being devoid of any and all personality.

>>718757798
The main thing that sticks to my mind in old platformer design vs new design is when DougDough played this and said "man I'm used to Odyssey where you can change your momentum at any time just by throwing your hat"

>>718757616
IDK just say they're casual then, the word "movementslop" implies the entire platforming genre is slop instead of these specific games being too easy. Zoomer language is so fucking brainrotted. Everytime zoomers try to talk to people it seems like they're forced to waste half their time explaining what they really mean because nothing they say actually says anything.

>>718757798
>nintendoslop

>>718754252 (OP)
I fucking wish more devs made good movement games. The only ones that have been really good in the last few years are pseudoregalia and big catch

>>718756812
TL;DR
Too many words layered pointlessly.

>>718754252 (OP)
I can kinda get where he's getting at. I much prefer when platformers have simple controls and movement instead of shit like wave-dash-slide-jump or whatever the fuck they call it that that one tranny game managed to popularize.

>>718754327

Instead of putting focus on actual level design and worlds, most of the dev time is put towards making sure the player can have a midair seizure and skip the entire (prefab) level.

>>718757865
Zoomers bring nothing to video game discussion whatsoever because they're incapable of actually making use of or even defining all of these random made-up terms that they makeup on the fly just to describe one specific detail of a game that they don't like, and because they're so peer pressure orientated, their ultimate goal is to force everyone to agree with them by hammering down those who step out of line. Their entire thought process reeks of being reconstructed in a way that makes them no better than those who live under communist regimes. Zoomers thought police so often that if they don't have someone telling them how or what to think, they have a complete meltdown.

i have twitterthreadslop fatigue

Good movement = Shovel Knight base game
Movementslop = all the additional SK campaigns

>>718757598
Everything I like.

>>718758295
based

If s o y was word-filtered here then slop needs to be word-filtered, too.

>>718757629
ill give it to him at least he never got into stupid drama or turn out to be a creep

>>718756551
They didn't use the word "black" mister

>>718758295
It really is a surprise that Twitter threads are still allowed, when they offer absolutely nothing of substance and are just fuel for generic bait threads. Really just goes to show how little the mods care about this site at this point.

>>718758472
Yes, it was "superhero" or "marvel" fatigue.
That pol then tried to co-opt because evil cannot create anything new.

>>718754327
It means the game has like 15 completely redundant jumps and two you'll actually use so it has the appearance of being more skilled to play.

>>718758756
Except reverse it because the left is movementslop now

>>718757798
In SM64 you prepare your jump on the ground by gathering speed and choosing a jump type and a good angle, then in the air you just gently steer Mario. In modern 3D platformers you do more in the air, you jump first then use your double jump and air dash, and it's always optimal to use them.

>>718758835
Reverse nothing, mario 64 is a boring game to play and it doesn't matter he has a dial a jump system to make it look like more's going on than there is.

>>718754252 (OP)
>movementslop
stop making up retarded words

>>718754532
Kill yourself troon

>>718756731
based

This thread is just the
>double jumps vs only having one jump
argument again.

Sure there's some extra shit thrown in now with the dives and McTwists you can do in the air for extended air time, but it's still the same thing.

>>718758903
Modern 3D platformers also often let you instantly reset your momentum and snap your facing direction with the press of a button, especially in the air, which undermines some of the fundamental properties of moving around in a 3D space like momentum and facing angle.

>>718756731
And yet you still shit and seethe all day about dumb shit. Perhaps being a neonazi that makes the world worse for everyone will still not give you an ounce of happiness?

>>718759671
Said guy on the verge of a stroke.

>>718754252 (OP)
Fuck Twitter and Fuck OP
>>718756489
I hate how these buzzword spewing faggots so much. Whoever started "slop" should be beaten.

>>718759167
And how is this different from your golden youth and high quality memes such "RIIIIIIDGE RACER!", "SERIES OF TUBES", "GIANT ENEMY CRAB" and has nogames, o glorious elder?

>>718759790
>Memes that show that the people making them actually give a shit about video games and find the contents humorous enough to repeat occasionally, but without overdoing it
versus
>Worthless unfunny jokes that get spewed endlessly by garbage zoomers that don't actually know or understand what it is they're talking about, much less complaining about like the retarded secondary grifters they are

I don't like complex movements. I prefer players to have limited options, but for the level design to demand a lot from them. Like Mario World romhacks, for example, which are much more satisfying than, I don't know, Mario Odyssey with its complex movements.

>>718759790
I like how zoomers now think RIIIIIDGE RACER!!!! was somehow a buzzword we spammed and applied to every situation

>>718754252 (OP)
Lost weight fatty

>>718756221
>mfw I trivialize fighting games by putting 10000+ hours into practicing combos
Bros should Crapcom remove gameplay from street fighter 7?

>>718760369
Well they removed gameplay from MH starting with World, so why not

>>718754327
You know whose platform games where people basically play "the floor is lava" and try to play like they need to skip most amount of the level as possible every single jump?
That's what it means.

>>718760194
>I like how
>I like how
>I like how
Lol unc really is an expiration date millennial
Are you going to millennial pause at me next?

>>718760369
>>718756976
I don't like Spam.

>>718756221
It gives you more options. You can land on the platforms or you can string moves together to cross the gap. Either option gets you where you need to go, it's not inherently bad.

total bubsy domination

>>718761139
It is bad from the perspective of someone who watches a clip of the tech being done and is filled with jealousy. You're not factoring in how much of that bad faith seething drives sentiments like this.

>>718754483
So is Mario 64 movementslop because there is more than just a basic jump?
You fuckers are retarded

>>718761540
No, in M64 you can beat all the levels with basic-ass jumps but can do crazy skips by getting good at the movement. Movementslop means you just get to triple jump everywhere at the press of a button and skip whole levels while being at the skill floor

>>718754483
>movement options for speedrunners to dilate over
this
It's not a game anymore it's a tryhard autist simulator

>>718754505
>womenslop
>hygieneslop
>employmentslop
>socializationslop
coming to a vee near you!

>CTRL+F
>zoomer
>12 results

This whole situation is just zoomer Internet bullshit: The Game. Most of us saw Bubsy 3D 15-20 years ago and thought it was an amusing novelty and moved on. But now the Internet is completely invested with (((content creators))) constantly looking for cookie cutter topics to throw onto the assembly line so they can make background noise to babysit manchildren. So they see Busby 3D dropped into their slop trough and suddenly they're hugely into it because bad games are LE FUNNY. Now these bozo game devs will make a quick buck off of them, hook, line, and sinker. There's really no group of dumber, more programmable cattle than today's "gamers."