Thread 718757523

2.5 hour long 2D side scrollers usually need 10 years to make, chud.

Can't believe it took them 25 years to make a 1 hour long game

A century for a ten minute game?!?!

Why are you mad that they didn't have any major troubles during development?

>>718757632
because they're clearly lying. if it wasn't in development hell there would be regular updates.

>>718757754
Because interest dipped while it was in development?

>>718757523 (OP)
>/v/
>we want small teams working on games
>it takes 5-6 years to make
>WHY DO THEY TAKE SO LONG

You fags get mad at anything

>>718757808
>interest dipped

>>718757754
>>718757808
lmao holy btfo

>>718757808
yeah team cherry's interest in developing the game dipped.

>>718757861
who are you quoting?

>post launch extra content
7 more years for hollow knight 3

>>718757754
>make game
>announce release when it's ready
i dunno what seems to be the problem

>>718757523 (OP)
I played Hollow Knight during lockdown and according to steam my playthrough lasted 43.8 hours.
I didn't like it very much, though

>>718757861
Meanwhile other indie devs shit out way better games in a few months. Team tranny just fucking can not develop a good game.

>>718757982
Thanks for the update, NPD-Man.

>>718757982
Because you left it running while you went to the bathroom. That time really adds up

>>718757523 (OP)
You guys seething like you had no games to play for 7 years. Maybe you need another hobby in that case.

>>718758028
>Meanwhile other indie devs shit out way better games in a few months.

>>718758161
7 FUCKING YEARS FOR A 2D SIDE SCROLLER

>>718758218
Yes

>>718757523 (OP)
I'm happy for them that they can take their time making the game. I don't understand why anyone would be mad at this, it's not like you're owed a game in a certain timeframe or anything

>>718757523 (OP)
I'm expecting it to be huge, considering how much extra time it took to make

Hollow knight was souls slop and this will be slopper.

>>718758334
When this game turns out to be another mediocre 7/10 you'll understand why developing a mediocre game for 7 fucking years is absolutely pathetic

>>718757754
What fucking updates? It's not some faggot live service game

>Yeah it's not done, don't know when it will launch
>added new caterpillar enemies today

>>718758459
It's none of my fucking business how long it took them to make the game. I'm only interested in the quality and price of the product

I'M GOING TO PIRATE THIS GAME BECAUSE IT TOOK TOO LONG TO COME OUT

>>718758546
Why even announce it if you're gonna go dark for 7 years....

Fucking retarded

>>718758330
Powerful.

>>718757523 (OP)
>A Hat in Time was a better game and took not nearly as much time to make
I kneel to time cunny

>>718757523 (OP)
Why didn’t they hire some people to help speed up development. Are they stupid

>>718758605
I'm not wasting my time even playing it

I hope it's $80

>>718757754
It wasn't in "dev hell" they were just busy counting their money and taking it easy enjoying their lives

>>718758624
Seething

>>718757982
>Got to rainy city place
>Stopped playing and just went back to SOTN Randomizer
Don't make your game have annoying traversal and annoying combat. Pick a side.
>Annoying combat, good traversal
Rabi-Ribi
>Good combat, annoying traversal
Bunny Must Die - Chelsea and the 7 Devils (Has hidden mechanics, too!) , La Mulana

>>718758659
Why would they give anybody money to make the game? The game has a great word-of-mouth even though the game's completely dogshit. It'll sell 10+ million copies, and make the 3 devs $50M+ each.

>>718758263
And? There are at least 10 Hollow Knight clones and they all look like soulless trash compared to Silksong where every frame is like a painting. It takes time when you aiming above mediocrity.

>>718757918
me

>>718758621
To announce they started working on it? Silksong was supposed to be a DLC for Hollow Knight at first, they announced it would become it's own game is all.
Just because they barely marketed it doesn't mean they were in dev hell. They just decided to release when ready, with no planned date when they started.

>>718758807
about those... other games?

>>718759235
>every frame is like a painting
Still beautiful but I hate how they turned up the blur on the backgrounds compared to Hollow Knight and the 2019 trailer, you could see this town in much more detail previously and I wonder if it's because of performance issues on the switch 1. Regardless it really is insane how no other indie title comes close to this level of art direction, every bit of hype this game has gotten is deserved, Team Cherry has embarrassed the whole industry

>>718759483
You're obviously gonna fix the town and the background will change like Dirtmouth

>>718757523 (OP)
How long did yours take?

>>718759235
This literally looks like one of those generic clones. Not sure how exactly you think this shit looks good. Must be a Nintendo fag if you have such low standards

>>718759483
>turned up the blur on the backgrounds
I think the idea is to give macro photography kind of perspective and scale. It's a tiny world of bug creatures after all.

>>718759271
>Just because they barely marketed it doesn't mean they were in dev hell
Nah it just means they are incompetent faggots who don't give a shit about sharing development updates for an entirety of 7 fucking years.

Pretty sure if Microsoft and other studios didn't start pushing them for a release they would still be developing right now. This studio is filled with faggots who give zero shits about sharing any updates. You might have even ended up waiting 40 years if it's up to them, without a peep

>>718760039
>This literally looks like one of those generic clones.
Yeah sure bud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8HUELoNayE

>>718760280
>if Microsoft and other studios didn't start pushing them for a release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofUi9DR9sc4

>>718759298
Yep

It'll be out when it's out....


And we DID like that!

>>718759660
More shops in dirtmouth opened as you progressed but the background didn't become any more or less visible, this is cope. Dirtmouth has a detailed background throughout the whole game on PC, and a much more blurred background on the switch, because it allows them to obscure lower resolution background images for optimization. Since Hollow Knight launched as a PC exclusive while Silksong is launching on everything, it's possible they gimped the game for everyone for the sake of the OG switch

I noticed some areas in the newest trailer have much more visible backgrounds, so it's possible it was just an artistic choice, or maybe it's because they use less assets. Either way it's a downgrade in my opinion, still looks great but not as good as the initial reveal

>>718760356
Literally looks the same. Might as well be part of the hollow knight trilogy at this point

why does this game make /v/ seethe and shit their pants so hard?

>>718760393
Can you create another thread telling me how unfair it is that it took 7 years? I'm just not seething enough.

>>718758028
Such as? What other indie devs are you referring to. I don't even care about silk song I just want to know what crazy anticipated indie games got made in a fraction of the time because you seem to know a lot

>>718760524
Probably because trannies consider this game another 10/10 while in reality it's an absolute generic soulslop with badly designed map and levels, clunky combat and pretentious designs.

>>718757754
>regular updates
of WHAT, the fuck are you on

>>718760549
Sure, keep an eye out for my upcoming threads tranny

>>718758028
>other indie devs shit out way better games in a few months
literally WHO, the fuck are you on

>>718759660
>>718760452
Here's the same town from the 2019 trailer so you see what I'm talking about. You can see a similar difference between Dirtmouth on PC and Switch

>>718760093
This effect can still be achieved with less intense blur

>>718759235
Cuz this isn't soulless to you ?

>7 years to make a shitty 2d sidescroller indie game
This is fine
>7 years to make a shitty 2d sidescroller indie game with reused assets
Not even gamefreak is that incompetent

>>718759235
Paintings don't usually have clashing art styles

>>718758562
You don't understand. You must be angry about something and if it isn't price or quality you have to be creative and invent something to be mad about.

>>718760707
Thank you. I tried to make things easier for you and ask you for something that is within your capabilities.

>>718760582
Hades and Gris both only took 3 years and mostly any other indie game on the steam front page right now took a few months. Doesn't matter if I name them though you'll simply say they are shit while forgetting how shit hollow knight is as well.

Won't waste my time feeding your kind since you're a brain-dead fanboy

>>718760662
You are fucking retarded. Legitimately this is why your dad walked out on you faggot

>>718760886
>>718760949
not seething btw

the e33fags aren’t happy

>>718760718
>He only knows one indie studio
Lmao, what a fucking retardo

>>718761004
You most certainly are though

>>718761014
Let me make this clear for you. There is no way a shitty asset flip 2D SIDE SCROLLER will even be nominated. Get this through your thick skull now because you're in for disappointment anon

>>718757861
It takes less time for Wayforward to shit out a 2D game, sprite-based or otherwise, with something coming out from them nearly every year. Even Shantae only took 8 years at most to get its next game, and that's after the original concept was scrapped and the project moved over to another console.

>>718757567
On /v/ I heard a leaking troon say its actually half a hour game if you count download times (datacap reached in america)

>>718761206
like I said e33fags REALLY are not happy and are also trans

>>718761206
I absolutely loved E33 and you need to accept "Best RPG" isn't that bad a consolation prize, any other year it would've been GOTY

>>718760759
I think I prefer new rendition. It has more defined contrast which improves overall composition. Also top feels cluttered without focus point while final frame is more balanced and puts characters at the spotlight. That's kind of good example why it took 7 years.

>>718762172
Why'd you make it black and white Ari

>7 years to add slopes
mario maker 2 won

>>718762283
It makes it easier to see what I'm talking about.

>>718757754
zoomer brains are so fried holy shit

People forget that Kickstarter backers prepaid for Silksong years ago.
Then no updates for five fucking years.
Leaving everyone in the dark for so long was a bullshit move.

Pixel made Cave Story ALONE, from SCRATCH, in FIVE years

>no existing engine
>no existing universe or characters
>no existing game design
>no existing reusable assets
>no 20 years of tutorials or marketplace assets
>ALONE

>>718762528
and then putting the reason for the delay behind a paywall

>>718762596
This is the state of the industry now anon.
>7 years for nintendo to make botw from scratch, no existing assets, physics, music, map design, enemies, bosses, or puzzles to rely on
>7 years for nintendo to release the exact same game again except now you can glue rocks and tree branches together

How does it affect you personally?

>>718762596
cave story is for retarded sóy trannies

>>718762528
>people who funded a random niche kickstarter project in 2014 are now getting a free copy of the most hyped game in history
Seems like a fair deal to me. What were they supposed to do? Put out a bimonthly reminder that "we're still working on it"? That would've just pissed people off more, not to mention the fanbase of redditors talking about "skong" or whatever is total cancer, they absolutely made the right move going radio silent then suddenly shadow dropping it
>Kickstarter backers prepaid for Silksong
They were funding Hollow Knight, making hornet a playable character was originally just going to be a small DLC addition that let you switch to her in Hallownest, they are getting far more than what they paid for

>>718760280
>Pretty sure if Microsoft and other studios didn't start pushing them for a release they would still be developing right now.
They don't owe shit to microsoft, nintendo or whatever
They're literally INDIES

>>718762940
Same target audience as Silksong then

>>718762596
It has levels built out of 10 repeating tiles. Hollow Knight has more complex assets and just significantly more assets in general.

>>718763308
That they could reuse from the first game and no one would be able to tell the difference

What is it with small game developers making female protagonist? I cant roleplay as a woman damn it! They should have let you make custom characters.

>>718763364
>actually asking for an asset flip instead of a full new game

>>718763604
YOU VILL WEAR ZE DRESS

I hate to mork-post but recently I’ve seen so many people on /v/ whose primary concern with games seems to be how long they are. This is a genuinely retarded sentiment. Please understand gameplay density.

I swear only autistic people and transexuals talk about this property.

>>718763705
I honestly can not bring my self to play female characters but I can read books with them. A few months ago I read “ Mrs Dalloway” by Virginia Wolf and I enjoyed it a lot.

Most indie games take that long, if not more. If you compare Silksong to indie metroidvanias specifically, rather than indie games in general, seven years is on the low end.
>Phoenotopia: Awakening took seven years
>Ghost Song and Owlboy took nine years
>Iconoclasts either eight or eleven years, depending on whether you count the cancelled prototype)
>Rune Fencer Illyia has six years and counting
The first Hollow Knight game's development cycle was just really quick, there's nothing really weird about Silksong. The game obviously suffered for it too, the engine was dog fucking shit at launch

>>718763994
Is this a zoomer thing?

>>718763695
If it looks like an asset flip anyway what's the point?

>>718764079
I think it's varies from individual to individual.

This is what happens with Portland auteur types huffing poppers and their own farted ideas. Hollow Knight was a fairly good indie first try, would've been cool to see Silksong maybe two years after. But hormone replacement therapy takes a bit longer to take effect

>>718757861
Modern internet brainrot. Zoomies need their content NOW new content EVERYDAY no content? I go to someone who IS pumping out CONTENT all day (said content is AI slop btw) LOL I LOVE CONSOOOOOOMING CONTEEEEENT

>>718764110
Yeah why put effort into anything, let's just make endless slop with reused assets.

>>718764308
Why not make a game where it's obvious if the assets are reused or not

>>718764353
Anon it's a sequel with the same artstyle as the first game, the style that made it popular and that everyone recognizes it for. It's going to look similar but people who spent a lot of time playing the previous game will appreciate all the new stuff. What do ya u think they should have done, go for an entirely new art direction?

>>718758621
it was a dlc, then a game. i'm sure if it wasn't that we would've heard of it much later
not sure why you're so mad at the lack of updates tho

>>718764308
Are assets the only place a game development team could expend their efforts? Or perhaps they could use the effort saved to make a game that is fun to play?

>>718757523 (OP)
they're retarded, just like every hollow knigger fan

>>718757592
Star Citizen will just play end credits right after starting the game, eh?

>>718757523 (OP)
>Gets acquired by Microsoft
>Takes longer than 2 years
>Killed

I will say, if they are going to go with the angle that absolutely nothing went wrong in development and it just happened to take seven years to make, than the game would need to have literally zero flaws to make this actually believable.

i am really looking forward to it and i am happy that it took that long. i expect them to deliver. they mentioned they had fun during development, that's a good sign. much better this way than pushing an unfinished, uninspired mess down our throats. and it seems like it's bigger than hollow knight. at least according to steam it has more bosses and more different types of enemies.

kinda crazy that it already looked almost finished when they released the first trailer so many years ago. but since they changed it from a dlc to a full campaign, it does make sense. i guess there will be lots of original environments and characters and i am looking forward to any discovering any secrets they added.

too many games nowadays are unfished when they release and i highly doubt that this will be the case with silksong. this will be my first day one buy in years

>>718764746
Nigga seven years is what indie games take on average. Deltarune took that long to make 3 chapters

>>718757523 (OP)
And people are believing the "uh, we are perfectionists, so that's why it took too long to make" excuse. They were obviously enjoying the money they won from the first game rather than using the time to work

>>718764826
Yes but most devs wouldn’t pretend that their game never experienced any problems during its development.

>>718764521
How can they appreciate the new stuff when there's no way of telling it's new

>>718764989
Is it really that hard to believe that there wasn't any drama behind Silksong's development?

>>718763861
that too. i hate open world games for this exact reason. it's just so much time wasted on going somewhere to activate a quest and then in the quest you end up walking somewhere else while you listen to a conversation, then you fight some, rinse, repeat.

>>718764997
You can tell it’s new because you played the old game and the thing your seeing wasn’t in that game but is in the new game.

>>718765064
The games look identical though

>>718764989
This was just a normal indie game development cycle. If anything there was more drama around Hollow Knight's freakishly quick development.

>>718765106
You can’t read.

>>718765117
Again, it’s not the length of time it took to develop, but the fact that they say nothing happened to hold back progress at any time during that period. Most games do experience problems which need to be fixed during development. I’m not saying this is the only reason it would take a long time, to be clear.

>>718764631
Why do you think it's not fun to play? I guess if you didn't like the first game it makes sense but then why do you advocate for devs to do something just to please you when everyone else enjoys it as it is.

>>718764997
You'd be able to tell of you actually played the first game, retarded shitposter.

>>718765269
A new game should ideally not be just “old game with new assets and story.” I’m not saying they would need to entirely uproot the old game and make it into a new game that plays entirely differently, just that assets are not the primary factor at least for myself.

>>718765227
Do you crave drama or something, are you a w*man?

So what's the price going to be? It's not up for pre-order on steam yet.

>>718759483
It's obnoxious because if you play Hollow Knight with a no blur mod outside of some areas with low res backgrounds the game looks beautiful. Just give me the option to waste space on 4k background textures and play without the blur instead of neutering me for players with no storage space

>>718765227
What was there to say, really? What would be the point of posting every 2-3 months
>we're having some difficulty with the caterpillars
or whatever? it's better for them to focus on the game then try and drip feed their fanbase with random irrelevant news.

>>718765227
if you have ever done anything creative than a lot of the fun is experimenting and trying things out. that takes time. especially when you are dealing with abilities and stuff that changes the abilities. or quests and storylines and environments and enemy movements and stuff. there is lots of stuff to play around with during development.. not everything sticks or works out. that's all just part of the creative process

what they are saying is that there wasnt any interpersonal drama or infights

>>718765391
I don’t think a game running into trouble during development is “drama” I think it’s normal and there’s nothing wrong with it. I’ve hurt your feelings by thinking. I understand.

>>718757861
I'm going to laugh if this game ends up lackluster

>>718765402
$69.99 plus tip
You WILL pay it

>>718765425
>>718765452
My point is more just that the angle they are taking as far as publicity is concerned is that they just wanted to make the game perfect so ideally the game will be perfect if they were truly not rushed or stressed in any way during development. I don’t want the game to fail, I don’t hate Hollow Knight, I’m just saying.

>>718765381
i dont know. looking at the enter gungeon 2 trailer. i am actually upset they went with 3D this time instead of the charming 2D sprites they had in the first game. ETG 2 looks like shit. i am happy team cherry kept the art style of the original. it already is super charming and beautiful. i dont know how they could have made the art style better.

also considering, it is a small team and it was suppossed to be a dlc, it literally came out of the first game.

>>718764947
>the "uh, we are perfectionists, so that's why it took too long to make" excuse
they never said that, they said they kept adding content
learn to read, faggot

>>718765381
Most players who played the previous game want more of that game, different, maybe more complex and slightly improved, but a very similar experience. Because they LIKED THE PREVIOUS GAME. You are a minority if you were expecting something else.

>>718765583
Well you're saying nothing of worth.

>>718765621
You literally cannot read and are a retard.

>>718764804
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, it looks very, very good aside from the reddit humor but that was in the first game and easy enough to ignore

>>718765583
we will see but i trust their process. it took long and they did not communicate anything, yes, but i also kind of respect that. too many games that release as unfinished messes, then drop day 1 dlc and patches to fix them...

>>718765629
Likewise.

>>718760793
Post a recent game that you consider it has SOVL

>>718765651
You didn't specify what you wanted them to change, what would make it a truly "new" game for you?

>>718757523 (OP)
I dont understand this business model.

>Say there is a team of 30 people
>Assume they're all averaging $70k salary
>10 years development time
>Thats 21m dollars in development costs alone
>Assume the game sells for $50
>You'd have to sell 420000 copies of an indie game JUST to break even

>>718757523 (OP)
>Product made by a small team sells well
>Team becomes lazy and never bothers again
Tale as old as time

>people having scathing passionate arguments about a 60 hour game we've seen 10 minutes of
Leth won, barely fucking marketed the game and nobody can shut up about if whether they like it or not. And Team Cherry probably paid him millions

>>718757523 (OP)
Didn't Silksong start off as a DLC?

>>718765860
In this case there's 4 people working on the game that are all millionaires now and don't give a shit so it works

>>718765860
7 years development time, the game sells for 25 dollars, and the around 600.000 copies it needs to break even is actually possible with the sheer amount of publicity HK amassed.

Roblox

>>718765987
found an article that mentioned that hollow knight alone sold around 15 million copies. insane.

>>718765860
faildevs unironically budget like this and then blame Steam if their game doesn't pay off

>>718765860
it's an extremely fringe case of a small team of 2 then 3 people becoming millionaires who can afford doing any game as passion project

>>718758659
they didn't need help "working" (thinking about working) while lazying about on their yacht

>>718757754
Not necessarily lying. You can be stuck in development hell but also be having a grand old time.
Silksong's release got pushed back like 5 years, the scope constantly changed, updates stopped - all textbook signs of a game stuck in development. The reason it didn't feel like "devhell" to them is that they are a very small team and they're already rich enough to be retired. But their game still got stuck.

>>718758659
The devs found en enjoyable dev loop with their group, and Hollow Knight sales let them sustain their chosen lifestyle. Why go for growth in that situation?

>>718765814
I originally had just meant that ideally they have spent more time expanding on what worked in the original game in a in interesting way because the original post made it seem like they will be releasing a game that is mechanically exactly the same just with 7 years of new artwork.

>>718766351
what would you change mechanically? hollow knight is a metroidvania, so will be silksong. changing the genre is a huge risk. i do expect hornet to play differently than hollow knight

>>718757861
>we want small teams working on games
Yes. But more than 4 or 5 people.

>>718766351
Anon you haven't even played the game yet, let's wait for the release to see how the game plays and then start concernposting.

>>718762172
The new version is a lot more striking. I like the focus on the fountain decor a lot, makes the spot stand out. Looks like they iterated over most of the assets since then too.

>>718757523 (OP)
hollow knight sucks!

>>718757523 (OP)
Imagine what you could have done if you'd started work on that idea you had 10 years ago

>>718766675
from what i have seen so far from the trailers, and i try to avoid watching any trailers, they generally seems to be a concern for making the game look easily readable, as it should be, especially during fights.

>>718757523 (OP)
>post launch extra content
Meaning it's not actually done and they got pressured into releasing it early by the big companies they've been promising it to and getting funding from.

>>718757523 (OP)
nortubel took less time to make

>>718757523 (OP)
>2.5 hour long
I don't get how these threads keep getting bumped

>>718765860
Team Cherry is three people, with two contractors (pr and composer) that probably get paid a decent amount less (Assuie minimum wage is something like $45k), and all the VAs probably get paid a flat fee per session, which, given the "dialog" in the game is probably just once.
They could be paying themselves ludicrously high salaries and still break even.

>>718757523 (OP)
No way it last anything under 20 hours.
It took them TEN years

Bait thread. Yawn

>>718767042
Composer better be getting paid well, as far as I'm concerned he's more important then the writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oj_1wAETSA

One of the devs trooned out. Mystery solved.

>>718765402
I'm assuming $30-40. I'll be surprised if it's $15 again.

Reminder that Hollow Knight has more Steam reviews than AC: Origins, Odyssey and Valhalla combined.

>>718767181
I think it'll be 25 at most

>>718767141
The sprawling art and lush music combo really makes the game for me, so Larkin better get a small % cut.

>>718767141
he got paid by the kickstarter for the base game then by the game sales for grimm and godmaster
his Silksong contract must have been at least 5 times the others combined
or he maybe asked for % royalties

I should give Hollow Knight another go, I got fatigued at some point in the honeycomb stuff

I really really like crunchy fries

>>718767167
How does this affect the game?

>>718767391
I like them soft.

>>718757523 (OP)
2 years to make the Silksong SLAYER

>>718766893
what companies did they promise anything to? and got funding from exactly?

>>718767283
>>718767141
The man has a fucking full orchestra to work with now

>>718765402
$25 according to humble bundle leak

>>718757861
Metroid took 13 months to make, and almost all of the work was done by 2 (brand new) employees at Nintendo who had to make their own tools and program hardware. By comparison modern programmers are like little babies

>>718767441
I don't mind them soft either.

Who the fuck is getting mad at Silksong anyway? It's a fucking indie Metroidvania that appeals to a specific audience, if you don't care about Metroidvanias you can just not play it.

>Be me
>Just started playing HK
>Silksong will be out by the time I'm done.

>>718767472
sounds like we're funding Pellen's grandchild's future political campaign

>>718767537
Fags need their TORtanic please understand

>>718767451
Good for him. I hope he'll still include instruments like handpans and harp.

i have 73 hours in HK and I've done everything except the last pantheon and path of pain. I'd be happy if silksong was even half as long.

>>718765860
>>You'd have to sell 420000 copies of an indie game JUST to break even
Thats pretty realistic given how the original sold millions of copies.

>>718765860
Silksong will sell 10+ million copies.

>>718757523 (OP)
lmao the absolute hacks

>>718767537
Popular things make me mad.

>>718757964
so why did they announce it 7 years before it was ready then?

>>718767991
ktim

>>718767447
They should make Kronii hotter.

>>718767537
You don't understand. People are happy, that makes /v/ seething mad

>>718768041
So people know it was being worked on.

>>718767579
>Clearing Godhome in two weeks
lol
lmao

>>718765945
Yeah it was simply gonna be playable Hornet, Zote could've been playable as well but that stretch goal never got reached

>>718757754
>over $95 million in revenue on Steam alone, with total gross revenue likely significantly higher given sales on other platforms
they made silksong for fun my man, probably took year long breaks lmao.

>>718757523 (OP)
Yea if you only work one day a week.

>>718767450
Microsoft for starters. Do you not reme.be that it was supposed to be a day one gsmepass gane?

>>718759235
Blasphemous is way prettier.

>>718766225
>Have infinite money because my first game succeeded and I made millions
>I clock into office 4 hours per day to do some bullshit about the sequel and maybe we will finish it some day who knows I just wanna have fun
>7 years later it's done

What's wrong with this? If I had my life solved because I had good success in my career I would also just take things slowly and enjoy the calm and stop stressing so much.

The first game took 3 years to make but that's because they were working all day every day and were living on pennies and surviving on discount deli meats so they HAD to make something good fast or die, now that those incentives and sufferings aren0t there anymore they can do whatever the fuck they want as far as I'm concerned.

>>718768203
>>718768218
>they didn’t release it because…because they were just LAZY okay!
>I know this because no one has ever enjoyed working on something for an extended period of time!
>I am DEFINITELY not mad that these people are much more successful and beloved than I’ll ever be!

ASTLIBRA dev agrees

I don't know, but somehow games have got to be made faster again. I don't think they're 100% telling the truth when they say they actively developed for ten years, but even so, almost every game is taking that long now to be made, whether indie or AAA. It is not sustainable. You can't keep a fanbase if people are waiting that long for new games. They will move on and forget about you.
I thought about this recently in relationship to the new Dragon Age. That game was bad and justifiably criticized, but I used to be invested in that setting that, had it come out in 2017 or 2018 I would have certainly bought even with the criticism. But when it got a release date I just shrugged. No longer gave a shit even if it was a great game. The same thing might be about to happen soon with Bethesda and next TES game. Skyrim was massive hit in 2011 but it has been ages and the TES fandom has received no TLC in that time other than rereleasing skyrim a few times, and oblivion. And the MMO which is irrelevant. If the fanbase has dwindled and Bethesda lost its new Skyrim fans in the meantime they will have only themselves to blame for ignoring it so long.

>>718768359
Are you going to get tired of saying this over and over again in every thread?

>>718768369
They are lazy. I'll still buy the game but they don't need to lie. Just say they took a vacation.

>>718768519
But lying is really fun

>>718767537
I like metroidvanias but feel very whelmed by Hollow Knight

>>718768519
Doesn’t it feel sad that you’re too cynical and broken to respect anything?

>>718768665
Should I respect a poor work ethic?

Only side scroller platformer I have ever finished was prince of persia on my fathers nokia

>>718768519
>They are lazy
>I'll still buy the game!!!!! to enable and support their behavior but they don't need to do something which is directly encouraged by myself and others like me
This entire fucking thread lol

>>718768728
You have no reason to believe that they have a poor work ethic except that they took time to release a game and people are still excited for it.

>NOOOOO YOU TOOK TOO LONG TO DEVELOP THE GAME YOU MUST BE MISERABLE STOP LYING REEEEEEEE
What causes this lmao

>>718768794
Seething jealousy.

>>718768791
It took so long it became a meme. I just beat some random one dev metroidvania Haiku the robot and one of the backer statements was asking the future player if Silksong was out yet. This was years ago.

The problem here is that it took 7 years, and they are planning "post launch content". If you can't see the issue, then just leave the thread. Come back in 11 years when the game is "complete".

>>718768926
BUT ANON HE SAID PEOPLE ARE STILL EXCITED ABOUT IT
THAT MAKES EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO OKAY
STOP CRITIQUING THE VIDEO GAME DEVELOPERS THEY ARE PERFECT AND WHOLE

>>718768397
So you’re mad the fanbase didn’t forget about silksong?

>>718757523 (OP)
So that's why they didn't give updates to the backers who funded them despite rising inflation and skyrocketing cost living. They were too busy having fun

>>718768041
it was dlc at first, they announced it became it's own game

>>718760886
Holy fuck, retard. At least check facts.
When Hades development started, the team consisted of 20 people, and increased to 25, and took 4 years.
Team Cherry consists 3 people and is in development for 7 years.
Can you draw any conclusion from this, you absolute mongoloid.

>>718757523 (OP)
I think what happened is this studio started doing mass DEI hiring and realized too late that they have way too much deadweight.

This game does not need more than 10 people developing it, and there are likely 100+ there lol.

>>718768975
They’re a team of 3 people man

>>718758028
solo jap dev released elin which is WAY more complex than Troonsong
same as that Citadel game
solo Jap devs are the future

>follow single player MMO solo dev
>worked on game after his day job for 4 years before EA release
>over 50+ updates since EA release in mid-April
>daily communication
Feels good man. None of this autistic silence.

>>718757861
I don’t want that thought nightreign is the best game this year I want low dev time games made in one year at low cost that prioritize being fun

>>718768926
Okay how does that prove they have poor work ethic though? It’s a meticulously hand drawn game worked on my 3 people. Not exactly unrealistic it would take a while considering this is looking to be even bigger than the first game (which took 4 years btw)

>>718768359
No you don't understand, people on the internet you'll never meet are angry and you need to care about that.

>>718769402
Who is angry in this situation?

>>718768203
>they made silksong for fun my man
Silksong was a Kickstarter incentive, retard. That’s why the delay was so heavily memed. If they didn’t deliver the thing they promised to people who had already paid a decade ago, they’d get fucked up legally.

>>718769019
Said backers specifically paid for a game that's been out since 2017 you disingenuous so-and-so

>>718769375
>daily communication
dev just set himself back by at least a decade with that move.

>>718769649
>vaguepost
Okay.

>>718757861
Ender Lilies devs made 2 Metroidvanias that both are better than Hollow Knight in less time it took to make Silksong.

>>718769375
> single player massively multiplayer online
how does that work

>>718757523 (OP)
Is this even good? I got it in a bundle and never played, but I'm skeptical at the weird amount of hype this game gets. I heard about the hype itself, but I don't think I've heard of anyone say anything else about it, "it's a masterpiece" is pretty much just what you heard, nothing about the gameplay, story, mechanism, etc. Fucking nothing
As far as Metroidvanias goes, La-Mulana 1/2 are incredible experience and I have some doubts that this is even going to be as good

>>718769793
>game that had 4 years to iterate on the flaws of one of the first modern metroidvanias is better
No…

>>718757861
Indie games taking as long as AAA games is a poor sign of game development management. Indie games are suppose to be different from the AAA model, not copying them.

>>718769971
No everyone is lying and is in on the joke. It sucks

>>718769383
how long did the first game take? Was it 7 years?

>>718769093
Is /v/ always this retarded? I rarely come here.

>>718769971
at first i didnt care about hollow knight, even when i played it at a friends place, but i got it later anyway when it was on sale and fell in love with it. really beautiful, moody artstyle and the game is really hard but super satisfying to play and explore. the combat is really good, the music, the environments, everything has so much charm. it's a really well executed mix of metroidvanias and dark souls

>>718757523 (OP)
Yeah and?

It took them that long becaus they had to redo the whole game in the new engine.

>>718770030
IT’S
THREE
FUCKING
PEOPLE
Am I just too autistic to tell I’m being baited or is everyone actually this dense

>>718768353
Ori and planet of lana as sidesrollers look like paintings, HK/silksong still looks like a flash game

All I know is that I want Phantom to be a femboy that Hornet can dominate.

>>718770060
Well, sometimes "widely acclaimed" shit are just common accessible slop that's just above average and babby's first _____, or you get an extremely vocal retarded fanbase
The fact that I didn't hear anything at all about the content of the game did raise a red flag, I try to not be a shitty contrarian for the sake of it, but this has me getting suspicious for good reasons

>>718769871
Simulated players look up Erenshor if you're curious

>718770178
(You)

>>718769971
It's really good. Looks good, sounds good, plays good.

>>718769093
My guy it's the same 3 dudes who made HK.

>>718769530
>Silksong was a Kickstarter incentive
No it wasn't, it was initially a stretch goal for an additional playable character that they narrowly hit

>>718769530
Nothing happens from not meeting Kickstarter obligations. It's literally in the terms of service you're SOL if shit doesn't happen that was promised.

>>718757861
Halo 2 was made with a small team in like 18 months
Doom took 2 years
Phantasy Star Online took 2.5 years
Final Fantasy 12 took 3 years
My cum takes forever it gets stuck cause I don't clean the tip often

>>718770282
Maybe do your own research? Do you expect to get unfiltered unbiased opinions on post election /v/?

>>718770332
He's shifting the goalpost, next he'll say well silksong was the DLC they promised!!

>>718770282
At any point you could have looked up a proper review or a gameplay video and formed your own opinion. Or just tried playing it, since you already own it.

>>718769530
>they’d get fucked up legally
I wish. As an example of a popular vidya, Tony Faux never delivered the ultra secret True End of Undertale (among other promises) and nothing negative ever happened due to it.

>>718770293
I was expecting a meme genre naming convention, but that seems quite interesting tech-wise. I'll take a peek.

>>718758621
They were obligated to say it existed because it was a kickstarter goal. If they keep making games we aren't going to hear about it at all until much closer to release. Total silence for years with zero info before a title drop will be the team cherry norm.

>>718770332
>no one complaining about colloseum of fools being in the final game even though they didnt reach the stretch goal

>>718770368
>>718770490
Sure, I could just fucking play it since I already have it (And 1000000 other games, it's not like it's my only game either), but what would be the point of message boards otherwise?

>>718758028
>shit out way better games in a few months.
Like?

>>718770365
"small" team with billions of dollars taking 20 years to push out smaller in scale updates/projects like Valheim and Silksong

Meanwhile boomer chads push out giga scaled projects in less time with a small dev team

>>718758459
>I'm mad about a game I'll never play taking a long time to make!
Why?

>>718770673
Look up Six Days in Fallujah btw, halo composer worked on the amazing immersive audio for the game

Just beat this fella called Soul Master. More like Soul Dead! Ha ha!

>>718770282
>The fact that I didn't hear anything at all about the content of the game did raise a red flag
Doesn't apply to Hollow Knight, but that's how people describe Outer Wilds too.

>>718770548
He uses premade Synty assets because again the dev had a day job but everything else he learned to code and do on his own. The game actually did well enough for him to quit and start working on the game full-time so I hope it all ends well. If you check it out, wait a short time for the big upcoming balance overhaul + 5th class patch.

>>718770365
You gotta keep in mind that the games you're talking about were crunched as hell, especially halo 2. It made a few devs walk away from game dev and were forced to sleep at their office, Team Tranny on the other hand is getting such leeway they're taking as much time as they want. Which makes me not want to give them money

>>718770724
TORtanic niggers poisoning the well.

>>718770848
Also, I'm 3K up. Where do I spend this shit?

>I WANT MY TOYS AND I WANT THEM NEOOOOWWWWW

God consumers are pathetic... they never grow up, do they?

>>718770867
I’m sure they’re dying without your one sale

>>718764997
Why would you not be able to tell?

>>718770919
You should put them into a bank if you don't need them for now.

>>718770848
I hate hollow knight for he sole reason devs were pretending to not have any inspirations from other games such as dark souls, when they've taken multiple concepts and even copied designs like the obvious bench/rest system and the eerily similar Watcher Knights to the Abyss Watchers. Devs just went "I didn't know dark souls was a thing lol!"

>>718765860
But enough about mr. Blow

>I MUST DEFEND THE COMPANY AND I MUST DO IT NEOOOOWWWWW

God consumers are pathetic... they never grow up, do they?

>>718770964
Not discovered a bank yet, except some guy that wants to sell me secrets for 100g

>>718770919
Store it in the bank before you lose it

>>718770920
thus spoke the frogposter

Probably burnout + massive wealth.
It was a small team for sure, but they got a shitload of money thanks to their success. Now pushing yourself to work on another game that you pretty much already made once, is 100% going to be less exciting. So now you have a small team, on a project that does not excite them, with a lot of spending money.

This was 100% a case of everyone taking it easy, and not giving a fuck 90% of the time. Can't blame them, but pretending that they were smooth sailing working hard on the game is just BS.

>rushing a game is bad
>also why aren't you making it faster!?

>bloated dev teams are bad
>also why isn't your team bigger to make it faster!?

>>718770937
You reward what you like with money, do you not? Why would I reward these niggers with my hard earned cash? I'm still playing their shit and keeping my money, idc if they get 500 billions or lose 500 billion why would that matter to me?

>>718771109
Fair enough but I don’t understand why you’re crying on /v/ that other people think differently

>>718771086
Who are you quoting saar?

>>718770979
Are you officially diagnosed by any chance?

>>718771109
>you reward what you like with money
>I'm still playing their shit and keeping my money
...you are planning to play the game you know you won't like? kek

>>718771019
Not a speck of originality in that pea sized brain of yours, is there?

>>718771049
Listen, and learn.

>>718771023
You should muck around Fog Canyon and Fungal Wastes.

>>718771172
This but all the Hollow Knight knights.

>>718771323
We’re just responding to people making retarded bait threads like OP

>>718766072
>hollow knight alone sold around 15 million copies
This is the main reason why development took this long. Because they could take their time. Each team member was a millionaire. And an over night millionaire as well. No need to push forward with development because costs are not an issue anymore.
I mean, look at the example, 7 years = 600k copies to break even, if you are a dev without a cushy financial backing, dropping 2 years off dev time, reduces the sales needed to break even by 180k~, this is more than most indie games sell in total.

I wonder if they showed IP count on this thread what it would be? I would assume at max 20, most likely 12. I swear every thread is the same fucking schizos ranting at each other constantly trying to one up and "epically" own the other poster. But both are coming from a place of pure contrarianism and being non genuine.
My Iq fucking dropped 20 points reading this thread and I hope to all hell that Moot somehow comes and hits the nuke button on the site.

>>718771174
So you think rushing a game and having a bloated dev team are good things?

>>718771383
>we
>retarded bait thread like
I see, newfag-kun.

>>718771019
>they never conform up, do they?
You are paying taxes to pedophiles

>>718757861
why did Hollow Knight take 2 years

>>718771478
not him but releasing the game in 4 years is preferable to 7 years.

>>718770332
Did they release the second playable character with their own unique quests and abilities that is clearly the character from silksong on the image under the FUNDED! sign?

>>718771478
he just wanted to post the newfag buzzword anon. BE NICE to 14 year olds he can't help being a literal child

I can’t believe they took so long to make this game that the best death of the universe occurred and it’s only one attosecond

>>718771487
>2.5 hour long 2D side scrollers usually need 10 years to make, chud.
>obvious misrepresentatios of a xitter screen cap
>not bait

>>718771569
Ummm you're not supposed to mention that. >_<

>>718771463
>I swear every thread is the same fucking schizos ranting at each other constantly trying to one up and "epically" own the other poster.
Anon it’s just a third world thing. Largely Indian. It’s them “asserting caste”. Why do you think nothing gets done in those countries every faggot there is a jerkoff arguing over pointless shit

>>718757523 (OP)
This is what happens when you let trannies run gamedev

>>718770001
Hollow Knight did absolutely NOTHING new NOR did improve on any mechanic or concept from previous metroidvanias games. HK merit lies only on its content size, nothing else. Not that guy and never played Lilies, so you can shit on that game for all I care, your point is still wrong and retarded.

what so great about hollow knight? tried to play it but I kind of lost interest when I saw the size of the map and never got around to try to give it a chance past 2 hours of gameplay

>>718771701
>oink oink! more slop! faster! baby hungy!
you're gross

>>718771714
zoomers first souls like metrovania

>>718771440
look, if i made a game because i like making games and i ended up selling millions of copies, i'd still enjoy making games and i would probably do it most days anyway. obviously there is no rush anymore but there is a certain kind of pressure to deliver on the expectations that the first success of the first game created. so it is better to take your time, enjoy the process (being in constant contact with your fanbase can be problematic for that) and deliver something that you think is polished and will hopefully live up to the hype.

>>718771796
Periods exist, ranjeet.

>>718771561
What if the 7 year title is a bigger and more polished game?

>>718772119
Games shouldn't be too big. It messes with pacing. I would not like spending 100 hours beating a Metroidvania. As for polishing it sure but I don't see why that would take so much longer than the first. The gameplay looks very similar to Hollow Knight so its not like they have to perfect many new systems.

>>718765402
this is hideous and lazy

>>718771558
Hollow Knight took 3 years to develop and they had to release it sooner than they were planning to because they were out of cash

>>718772397
Then don't do every single side area.

>>718772397
But anon, what if? WHAT. IF?

>>718757861
when niggers were hyping this as the fucking second coming of christ for nearly half a decade then you know yeah i would expect it to be more than TWO AND A HALF HOURS

>>718772492
ewww that's what they said about TotK and I hated that bloated game design.

>>718772542
is this a joke?

>>718771796
That is nice and all, but they promised to backers of their kickstarter that they will release certain things that they did not. The "silksong is in development" was more of a legal obligation than a passion project. Which is why it took so fucking long.

>>718772542
It’s not even out yet you fucking mongoloid.

>>718772542
The original took on average like 60 hours to 100% I think it’ll be fine

>>718757861
how come games like crash bandicoot were developed in a year (2 years for crash 1)?
how come games with fucking FMV like final fantasy vii were developed in 3 years?
how come majora's mask took like a year to make?

>>718772675
he's just regurgitating OP's possibly tongue-in-cheek post

I love seeing hollowfags get defensive and pissy when they invaded every metroidvania thread like the bugs they are. Remember when they were raining on the parade of Metroid Dread grandpa's after they waited so long for that game to come out? They are literally getting a taste of their own medicine and they are so unaware of that fact it's crazy

You can say dread was too short or not worth the money or whatever. I wouldn't know, I never played it, but I remember the various obnoxious comparisons to hollow knight and found it hilarious that silksong was practically in dev hell after

>>718772831
Those were full teams, not like 3 guys.

>>718767537
Buddy you’re in for a long haul, we’ve got at least 3 weeks of steam sales threads and crying about it being bad/good ahead of us until [next thing].

>>718757523 (OP)
>2.5 hour long
huh?

>>718757964
young people who grew up on a media diet that creates an expectation for over-communication
they expect a two and half dev team to produce dev diaries and video updates
it's retarded

>>718773321
>expecting ANY interaction or exchange in 7 years is OVER-COMMUNICATION
This fucking thread

>>718757523 (OP)
but enough about metroid dread

>>718773085
You've got a chip on your shoulder because shitposters talked shit about a game you haven't even played? What in the world

>>718757523 (OP)
Nah, I don't buy it, something HAD to have happened.
We just saw the trailer for Lords Of The Fallen 2, with a 2026 release date. The first game was released in 2023. Yes, both games probably share many assets and the engine work is done so it's a matter of mostly content, but isn't that also true for Silksong?

>>718773467
back in the day we had no communication except interviews and advertisement, the latter of which only happened close to release
I think we should go back to that

>>718770119
No, this it them being smarter than usual.

>>718757523 (OP)
I just care about the quality of the game, taking 7 years or 2 years is meaningless, the game just needs to be good at the end of the day.

i'm pretty sure it's one schizo seething so hard about the game. probably the e33 schizo given how much it's randomly brought up unprompted here

>>718773642
The modern hype cycle is a plague, marketers should be slain and left for the crows

>>718758459
You're gonna call it that regardless of quality

>>718773642
That's still more communication than they have delivered in 7 years, for a pre-paid product.
>any communication at all whatsoever in 7 years is TOO MUCH
An hero, bad faith nigger.

>>718757523 (OP)
Yes the issue is that it took 7 years. But the REAL issue Team Cherry brushes aside is why was there no communication?
Nothing big, just at minimum a YEARLY update? A screenshot? Just some text?

>>718771262
Obviously, you hate niggers from knowing shit about them, I will hate this game knowing it plays like shit and looks like shit. It's called keeping your enemies close

>>718772549
>I disliked this open world game, therefore you have to make this metroidvania short

>>718772542
>be more than TWO AND A HALF HOURS
Why have you decided the game is two and a half hours long?

>>718757523 (OP)
>Coming 2019
>…

>>718770119
Think of (You)'s as a scoring mechanism.

>>718762172
The streetlights are on in the first image as well.

>>718773938
Hollow Knight isn't short. Just make that again. No need to double the size. Do we even know if the game is bigger than Hollow Knight?

>>718759235
background too blurry, my least favorite thing about silksong so far

>>718771783
>gross
Tranny spotted

>>718771569
yes, in 4 days. they made silksong free for the original backers

>>718774112
I agree, I don't remember backgrounds being this blurry in hk

>>718773828
>Regular blogposts for the first year of development
>Playable demo at Nintendo Treehouse
>Edge Magazine dev interview
>The PR guy being in direct contact with fans to answer questions
>The ARGs that teased new characters
>After failing the release window promised by Microsoft, announcing the delay
>THEN there was absolute radio silence until the 2025 release announcement for the Switch 2
An hero, bad faith nigger

>>718774082
Yes, it's much bigger than Hollow Knight.

>>718758028
Name twelve

>>718757754
Ye, there's truth to that. They certainly had fun, but they didn't have a clear roadmap either.

>>718774223
Did the devs say that?

>>718774310
Yes.

>>718757861
basically thats what it boils down to. its obvious that silksong had major scope creep and was iterated on a ton throughout its development but people still sperg out over an incredibly small team taking a long time to push out a sequel.

>>718774082
It's unclear. Hollow Knight's base game had about 160 enemies and 38 bosses and Silksong has over 200 enemies and over 40 bosses, on paper that implies the game will at least be slightly longer however Hornet is faster and more acrobatic than The Knight so that might even things out.

>>718771783
The customer is always run, cope, seethe and dilate

>>718774329
>show off gameplay trailer with release date
>don't release it
>don't update anyone on the release schedule for years
Why else would people be mad?

>>718774451
Anon you aren't a customer.

>>718757523 (OP)
>Squadron 42(Star Citizen single player) will be out before Silksong

>>718773970
The only other release date it's had was 2023

>>718774681
No it won't.

>>718774156
So no. They did not yet made good on that promise. You do realize that after 7 years and 4 days people might be allowed to criticize you for not holding up your end of the bargain?

>>718774552
That’s right, I COULD have been a customer if the devs where actually competent and put their game out in a reasonable time instead of wasting years tranniefying their studio. Cry harder when this shit flops

>>718774891
You were never a customer. Who do you think you're fooling?

Larping as a slighted backer over a stretch goal of all things is truly bizarre

>>718774891
Why would the highly anticipated sequel to a 15 million seller "flop"? How much money could it need to make to be considered a success? It was made by three people off the continuous money coming from Hollow Knight.

>>718757523 (OP)
Pizza Tower took a similar amount of time, Zeroranger took like 10 years somehow. Peak takes time

>>718775114
it's weird cuz i never heard a single backer disappointed with what they got and they're also getting the full fledged sequel for free.
i feel like that's pretty good treatment all things considered

>>718774891
>I totally was gonna buy it I swear

>>718775281
>pay for x
>get it for free
That's not how it works, champ.

>>718757632
Have you ever been stuck in traffic and thought to yourself "man, someone better be dead," only for the traffic to cease with no explanation? It's like that.

>>718774812
i'm sure you were a backer and you are really mad and not just seething at a popular game you are too autistic to understand why it's popular

>>718775448
i'd say paying 20 for a game and getting the sequel free is worth not getting 1 dlc out of 5

>>718774774
It will also win GOTY 2026

>>718775281
I'd be surprised if even a single soul out of the 2158 who backed the game is actually miffed that the original game never got playable Hornet

>>718775590
>pay for x
>get it for free
That's not how it works, champ but I wouldn't expect a buzzword-spamming newfag to have critical thinking skills in relation to his favorite video game brand/religion.

>wasting years tranniefying their studio. Cry harder when this shit flops
TORtanic niggers are a plague

>>718757523 (OP)
What? Did a YouTuber tell you that you can crank out a 40 masterpiece in 6 months?

>>718775627
backer here
no i'm not, i'm literally just getting a game for free kek, i did not pay extra for hornet, i just did the minimum donation to get a copy of the game on steam

>>718775834
i paid for hollow knight. silksong is the sequel.
but i get that your mind can't handle me not playing to your narrative

>>718775953
You paid for it as a stretch goal:
>>718770332
>making up semantic lies
sasuga newfag

>>718774681
Silksong is out in two weeks.

>>718772542
Indietroons do NOT fuck around about their 2D side scrolling button mashers where 70% of the games play time is spent back tracking

>>718757523 (OP)
Billy BASEDo made Animal Well BY HIMSELF in 7 years. These lazy troons already had the engine figured out and they still haven't finished the game.

I'm starting to suspect that that one poster is a bot because he's denser than a brick wall and keeps reiterating the same stuff over and over

>>718759235
Looks like a Newgrounds flash game, people really waited 7 years for this

I can’t imaging being so desperate to see a game fail simply because it’s popular. What causes this kind of mental illness?

>>718776383
Being a social outcast means you hate everything popular

>>718776363
You weren’t even alive when newgrounds was popular dumb zoomerjeet

Seven years for a thirty minute point and click?

>Be me
>Happy for Silksong devs and fans
>Still have a seething jealousy at the back of my head because it’s going to overshadow Mina

>>718764047
>Owlboy took nine years
>>Iconoclasts either eight or eleven years, depending on whether you count the cancelled prototype)
And they still came out mediocre. That's insane. You could easily make a mediocre platformer in less than two years with a team of 2 to 3 people even if you did it all in your free time.

>>718776072
i know what i paid, i paid less than 10 bucks to get hollow knight and i got hollow knight. "2nd playable character" was just an extra backer reward, it did not influence my purchease of the game
i find it kinda sad but also hilarious you are trying to tell me how i should feel about 10 bucks i spent over 10 years ago

>>718776470
>oomer
>jeet
GOTTEEEEEEM 2024 OLDFAG XDDD

>>718760759
>You can see a similar difference between Dirtmouth on PC and Switch
What? Dirtmouth is different on Switch and PC?

>>718776736
I never told you how to feel at all and you just admitted yourself that the "2nd playable character" was a BACKER AWARD.
I hope you work on these personal issues before you harm somebody in real life due to misunderstanding of a basic conversation.

>>718776618
oh damn I forgot Mina was also coming out soon

>>718776618
There's a little less than 2 months gap between their releases, it'll probably be fine

>>718757754
Stop trying to create conspiracies in your head. This is one of the easiest things to understand. Team Cherry made a game that became a cultural phenomenon. This activated their infinite money glitch. Because artists are all pseuds they kept expanding Silksong because the money that kept rolling in allowed for concept creep to be a continuous reality. They probably felt that they had an obligation to let people know what was happening but due to them being unsure about the release they didn’t want to give people meme updates about the game.

The only problem I personally have in all of this is that they should have communicated. No they had no obligation to do so but it definitely feels like a dick move to do to your base. That being said everything else is fucking fine.

Does Silksong has slopes?

>>718761206
Gonna screencap this post for future reference.

>>718776882
and i'm getting said backer reward, which makes you really mad for some reason

>>718777221
it's slopeslop I'm afraid

>>718757861
Let’s be a little honest here. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a small team taking 5 years to make a follow up game. The issue is that it was announced fucking 5 years ago.

>>718777319
>newfag buzzword spam
Of course, why would I expect anything else?

>>718777439
You need to get help

>>718776882
Were you a backer? Did you even play hollow knight?

>>718777487
>newfag buzzword checklist
You will always be a disingenuous 14-25 year old newfag nigger.

>>718777439
keep calling everyone newfag, that will surely make you look calm and collected

>>718777678
>u mad u mad u mad u mad everybody who disagrees with me is ANGWY >_<
You will never fit in and will always be a 14-25 year old newfag nigger.

>>718777812
keep saying it

>>718777610
>>718777812
Why are you so emotional over this? are you ok?

>>718757808
Nah it peaked so hard that they had nothing left to gain by providing small updates

>>718777358
I love slopekino. I'm a big Sonic fan.

>>718775448
>That's not how it works, champ
>>718775834
>That's not how it works, champ
>>718777610
>14-25 year old newfag nigger.
>>718777812
>14-25 year old newfag nigger.
beep boop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA_fTONCgvs
dull ass level design. sure worth the wait.

>>718769382
>nightreign is the best game this year
You have Hollow Knight fans then you have this one lone loser lol

>>718757861
>>we want small teams working on games
what does the dev's size have anything to do with the actual enjoyment of a game?

These faggots made a gorillion dollars off the first game. At least have the respect to not lie to my face.

There's something sus as fuck about this game. The forced hype, the shilling by Geoff, the fact the retarded team is in contact with Schreier etc.

These baka roo devs have been working since the beginning of Time and only made a 1 nonasecond long game baka

>>718778910
>>718779018
stop samefagging without a coherent argument and take your meds

>>718757861
>>we want small teams working on games
The problem here isn't that the team is small, the problem here is that Team Cherry sucks when it comes to communication. For God's sake, even Toby Fox is better at it. Just take a look at Deltarune, for example. Every special month, Toby delivers a Devlog that shows the progress of each chapter and which part was is completed and what part isn't completed

>>718767509
That would explain why all metroid games are such trash.

>>718779018
>calls others newfags
>unironically uses "sus"
ISHYGDDT

>>718760524
The bloodrayne sidescroller was better than hollow knight. Hollow knight is algorithm slop.

>>718757523 (OP)
Bold faced fucking lie. Its obvious that they were gooning out development to shop it around for console release deals. It was announced for switch and steam only at first and now its xbox's flagship release for their gay handheld. This piece of shit would have dropped four years ago if the devs weren't set on milking it. Which is fine, they should focus on profits, but it should really dampen their indie darling status.

>>718757523 (OP)
just like image comics they got there 1st big chunk of change and went nuts they dont care about making another game