Thread 718767171

I can't figure out if Witcher 3 is a good game or not.

>>718767171 (OP)
It's in the top 10 video games of all time, and is the best RPG ever made

>>718767171 (OP)
If you have to ask, then it's not a good game. Only journalist retards say it's anywhere near the top 100. Story was terrible, read the book, combat is terrible and clunky, map overall is shit to traverse. The only thing moving it up from a 2/10 to a 4 is Gwent.

>>718767171 (OP)
solid 8, but still overrated

it's great, just a shame how dumbed down choice and (mainly) dialogue is compared to the previous two. I also feel the main story actually ends kind of too quickly after ciri reaches novigrad.

just another movie game
:hard pass:

>>718767171 (OP)
It's a great visual novel with shitty gameplay
A perfect game for ADHD casuals who don't actually care about video games and want to watch a movie without getting distracted by their phone

>>718767171 (OP)
My Issues with TW3's World

I know a lot of people give Bethesda shit for making amusement park worlds, but after playing KCD 1 and 2, The witcher worlds also feel like dollhouses/sets
like everything is placed just for you, instead of existing naturally (as it should feel).

Everything is too close together.

I get that they have to do it because it’s a game, but at times, it feels immersion breaking to go from castles to swamps full of bandits in no time.

What else can you even recommend to people who want a grim dark long ass western RPG with good dialogue?

>>718767747
>A perfect game for ADHD
really lol? the game is a 100 hour long slow snoozefest

are we going to have similar threads about expedition 33 in 2028

>>718767858
I’m afraid it’s been… 10 years.

>>718767171 (OP)
systems are bad
they get a bit better with dlc once you get set bonuses and mutagens but it's still pretty fucking weak

>>718767171 (OP)
After I got to the viking area 10 years ago I dropped. The quest quality is all over the place and peaked with the baron (which isnt that amazing anyways).
If the combat wasnt straight fucking ASS I would have definitely stuck with it but god is it repetitive and not really fun.

>>718767713
>>718767747
I don't think you know what visual novel/movie game insults mean. Witcher 3 is like 90% gameplay, 10% cutscenes, it's definitely not a movie game.. Compare that to some actual visual novel/movie game like Persona 5 where there is 20% gameplay, 80% cutscenes. We need to be honest here. Skyrim is not a movie game either even when it's like Witcher 3 except less impressive chats with NPCs.

>>718767849
If you've seen a movie with ADHD zoomers you know they watch the movie for 5 minutes before browsing their phone for 20
This puts a controller in a person's hands and keeps them focused with "choices" and "gameplay".

>>718767747
Witcher 3 is one of the most anti-ADHD games out there. It's definitely not for people who can't concentrate and focus on what is being said.

>>718768097
The witcher 90% spamming queb because of the dogshit gameplay. It'd be better off as a moviegame

>>718767806
there literally isnt a game that doesnt do this. Even classics like Gothic and Deus Ex are like this. The more realistic it gets the more boring it is and you are basically advocating for huge stretches of dead empty space just for muh realism

>>718767171 (OP)
Its one of my favorites.
If the combat was more complex would be a perfect 10/10 for me.
Some of the sidequests alone have enough plot to be the main quest of their own games.

Love the characters
Love the setting
Love the story

9/10. No ammount of /v/ gaslight can make me dislike this game.

>>718768097
>90% gameplay, 10% cutscenes
Sure, if you count the dialogue that takes up the majority of the game's runtime as gameplay

>>718767171 (OP)
20 hours in on my first playthrough and its entertaining enough to keep me coming back so far but thats about it.
combat and movement is jank as shit and the game is really easy so far, some creatures you just position yourself behind them and cheese them cause they bug out lmao

>>718768371
You are constantly exploring the world or progressing objectives, the dialogue is there just to provide the context. There are some in-depth conversations with more important characters at times, but mostly you have quick chats with people before running off to kill some monster, just like in any other western RPG.

Only the Ciri segments are just bullshit.

>>718768326
>there literally isnt a game that doesnt do this
you might not like them but there are some games with a lot of empty areas with not much to do
KCD
RDR2
Elden ring (2 wandering retards in an entire field)
American truck simulator

>>718767171 (OP)
I like it, even if it has a lot of the shitty trends of the 2010s in it. Also, they did Radovid fucking dirty. I've only ever played the games, so maybe it's different in the books, but the lodge seemed incredibly malicious to me. He's justified in hating them and he should have continued being a shrewd political operator in W3 instead of a raving lunatic.

>>718767806
KCD1 definitely doesn't have any kind of magical "existing naturally" feeling. Never played KCD2, so I won't say a thing about it, but KCD1 is just a game like any other. Actually, the white walled town had a very gamey layout design.

>*whistles for magic horse*
>autoruns on road to quest marker
>*toucan sam vision activates*
>"Mhmm....giant slash marks all over the victim....a Drowner™, gotta be"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*follows nose*
>guys in Drowner™ costumes appear
>"OY BLOODY 'ELL FUCKING CUNT SHIT FUCK CUNT, IT'S A FUCKIN' WITCHER IT IS! GET "EM"
>"Shit you stink" ALALALALALALALALA *sets guys on fire and they stumble and recover immediately, does a cinematic slash and cuts guys in half"
>"Mhmm....Bandits™ pretending to be Drowners™......better tell the village head about this"
>"Come on, Roach"
>*autoruns on road back to village*
>"OY BLOODY FUCK CUNT WITCHAH, WOT ABOUT DA CONTRACT WESE PAIDS YA FOR YA BLOODY FUCKING CUNT?"
>"Just some bastards posing as Drowners™, here's proof *shows flipper*"
>"OY KURWA, HERE'S YA REWARD DA WHOLE VILLAGE CHIPPED IN"
>"Drowning in Danger" Complete AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>10 crowns received

>>718768881
You can silly-greentext any game

>>718767171 (OP)
my problem with this game is the fact that it all just boils down to picking Triss or Yen
that's all the fans talk about

>>718768826
>Actually, the white walled town had a very gamey layout design.
i think that was recreated from reality though no?

>>718769026
Shani is the only good option for Geralt because sorceresses are manipulating cunts who mistreat and exploit Geralt left and right. W3 makes Triss look nicer than she was in W1, but she's still a cunt when you don't forget her history.

>>718767171 (OP)
Me neither. When I tried it years ago as a teenager I found it to be boring and repetitive
>Talk to NPC
>Words words words
>Go to quest marker
>Follow witcher sense
>Fight a thing
>Go back
>Words words words
>Repeat
It might be time to give it another chance now that I'm older and more patient, but I doubt it will hook me this time either.

>>718768881
Whenever a quest finishes, I feel awkward so I just stand around for a few seconds.

>>718767171 (OP)
I liked the weird Polish monsters. The Him story was pretty neat and so was the Bloody Baron's dead baby story. I liked getting drunk with the other witchers too. Once you get to the place that looks like France you get this spell that you can just spam in the end game and make weak enemies just explode and that's fun as fuck.

>>718767171 (OP)
The combat is pretty ass but everything else is well done. Often very well done.

>>718770149
>the place that looks like France
American geography skills, ladies and gentlemen.

>>718767295
Most overrated game of all time, it’s actually a ubislop open world movie game fusion that had disastrous consequences for the industry as a whole because you listen to literal tranny faggot journos opinions

>>718767171 (OP)
It's a great game. Played it at launch and had an amazing long experience. But it's less memorable than say Skyrim, I never felt the urge to play it again.

I just wanted more depth to the systems.

>>718770398
>ubislop
Funny enough as much as I like Witcher 3, I think it's responsible for fucking up Assassin's Creed. Ubisoft saw its success and tried to imitate it with Assassin's Creed and failed miserably again and again while the series lost its identity. A shame as I liked Ezio's games a lot.

>>718767171 (OP)
Yes

>>718767806
The world is fine, the npcs are not. This is most apparent in the starting area, where each npc has a set line and activity they will repeat no matter how many times you ride past.
This is something KCD does so much better. Each npc has their own schedule, they don't just stay in one spot waiting for you to go past, and most people you interact with will treat you differently based on whether they have a positive or negative opinion of Henry.

>>718770710
Yeah they absolute decided to make their games worse after Witcher 3 because transexual journalist hype overshadowed the opinion of rational human beings who realize Witcher 3 is a god awful movie pretending to be a video game

>>718770832
On paper it feels good, but it’s wasteful. RPGs have this forever war going on where they want the player to be able to do and be anything/everything.

Witcher puts you in the shoes of Geralt, and his history as a Witcher. NPC schedules don’t matter, what matters is player choice in the moment.

I fell asleep three times while playing this game. Granted I usually play very late at night but no game’s ever made me fall asleep before

>>718768881
SOMEBODY POST THE FUCKING VOCAROO IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW

>>718771079
>what matters is what dialogue or cutscene plays when you press the button
Please gtfo of gaming

It has a good story and side quests and thats about it. It is not fun to play imo

the only criticism of witcher 3 is that there is not enough ciri !

>>718767171 (OP)
>Get the Grandmaster Gear after the game ends
>Nothing to kill after unless I NG+
>Nothing's new in NG+ other than bumped up levels
What's the fucking point? I wanted to fuck around with Manticore gear more.

>>718771219
There is no vocaroo of this.

>>718771238
Main story is kind of shit, but the side stories are decent enough

>>718771235
>character has a daily schedule
>they go to a house at night
>during the day they walk around

FUCK ME IM GAMING HERE

Why is the main story of the game so mediocre? All the open world games of this era are, like Fallout 3. But they all have solid side content.

>>718771587
Majora's Masks' Gameplay is built on strategizing around NPC schedules and it's a fantastic game that would be worse off without them

>>718771685
THe demand for multiple choices forces a cliche ending. Mass Effect 2 did it best imo because your choices pretty much just led to certain crew members dying or not.

>>718771587
Witcher npcs also go to sleep, the problem is that they don't have a life outside of playing the part of window dressing. For example the kid singing about the Emperor, whether it is morning, afternoon or evening, he is at the same spot singing the same song before his dad interrupts him.

>>718771587
You are so stupid I’m not even going to respond to that
A shame we have to have things ruined for the lowest common denominator

>>718771769
Majora is a smaller game. If Witcher was just Novigrad, then the parallel is there.
The problem with everything after Oblivion, is that they introduced all these expansive quests and schedules that act as window dressing.

Does Witcher 3 have better quests than Majora?

>>718772096
No

>>718771930
But even ME2’s main story was middling. It’s the character dialogue that rises it up, like W3.

one of the most garbage games ive ever played

>>718772096
Absolutelu not. Majora's masks quests are unmarked, complex and there are different ways of approaching or scheduling for them

>>718772069
It’s a genuine post. Focus on game design is more important than large systems meant to offer immersion.

It’s an older idea that started from GTA3, the whole,
>what if you could walk inside every single house and talk to every npc

In the end, it doesn’t offer anything at scale. It only works when the characters have direct bearing on something.

>>718772343
Moviegames aren’t video games.

>>718771587
Agreed, daily schedules are bullshit. And in general having to skip time in a video game. It's just a slop mechanic designed so that people have to explore the same area twice, thus saving money for the developers.

>>718772390
Wow great discussion

>>718772713
Go play a movie game if you want dialogue fag

>>718767295
Even Witcher 1 was better

>>718767171 (OP)
Did you have fun playing it?

>>718767171 (OP)
I want to say it's good but at the same time I don't think I'll ever replay it again. I don't even remember if I beat it once or twice.

>>718767171 (OP)
Witcher 3 and CP2077 are so bad I will never buy a game made in the country of Poland again. I am beginning to become extremely disillusioned with both the quality of rpgs in general, and both old and new games in the genre are becoming distasteful. The extreme lack of quality in RPG threads and their extremely repetitive nature.also reflects those feelings. I could never play an rpg again and I'd be totally fine. I try to play at least a bit of everything, but this is the one genre that really, really feels like complete newfag casual aids and there's no saving it. Even old games that are discussed are just stuff for the laziest people doing the bare minimum to orbit video game discussion.

>>718773318
> Witcher 3 and CP2077 are so bad I will never buy a game made in the country of Poland again

>>718767295
it's not an RPG though, it's an action adventure ubisoft open world inspired game with a branching storyline

>>718767171 (OP)
I enjoyed the combat, the music, and how the world looked. Did not care for the story. Good enough for me.

>>718773529
Did you like holding down the "ride horse" button and automatically following the road to the next point of interest where you kill 10 drowners by mashing 1 ability over and over, and get a chest with level scaled diablo loot? Peak gameplay.

It's literally the only RPG I've ever played but it's the best RPG ever made.

>>718767171 (OP)
It's not. 2 > 1 > 3 DLC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.

>>718774347
Thinking W2 is the best of the series is such a blatant contrarian retard fake opinion.

>>718774786
It's objectively true.

>>718773660
>Did you like holding down the "ride horse" button and automatically following the road to the next point of interest
Why would you ever do that? Turning POIs off is one of the first things I did, made it much more fun if I stumbled on one naturally. And who the fuck follows the road? This game is all about treading off the beaten path.
>where you kill 10 drowners by mashing 1 ability over and over
You need more imagination. Yes, you can beat the game by just mashing light attack (especially on lower difficulties) but that's so boring, why would you do that to yourself. I liked drawing the monsters to a explosive barrel, setting it alight at the right moment so they would all go flying.
>get a chest with level scaled diablo loot
So? Easy money, Witcher gear is all you need

>>718768826
Idk what you are talking, it's the only one where spaces feel real instead of feeling like sets built for me to explore and do cool stuff in.

I gave up due to boredom and being overwhelmed by all of the junk on the map. The combat is shit too. I think I tried to get into this game a handful of times and just got bored after about a 2-4 hours

>>718775029
If you want to have a discussion then don't bump your flagrant fanboy thread. If you bump the thread I won't give you an answer. You're not an interesting person to talk to, this is all for your benefit and I gain nothing from it.