Thread 718772072

Death Stranding 2: Lack of Sales Update Suggests Game Sold Poorly
Death Stranding 2 has been out for nearly two full months, but PlayStation and Kojima Productions have remained silent about commercial reception. As it stands, all signs point to disappointing sales for the title
PlayStation is typically quick to announce sales milestones for its exclusives shortly after release. PS5 exclusives like Final Fantasy 16 sold 3 million copies within a week, while Spider-Man 2 sold 2.5 million units in the first 24 hours. As such, the radio silence raises concerns about Kojima Productions' latest release. Admittedly, Death Stranding 2 is a more niche release than the likes of Spider-Man or Final Fantasy, but even smaller PS5 exclusives like Astro Bot eventually managed to sell 1.5 million copies in two months.

>>718772072 (OP)
It's SELLED, retard

>>718772072 (OP)
>>718772103
Samefag

>>718772072 (OP)
It's "sold". The game SOLD poorly. Of course it did too.

You can only get so gay and pretentious before even the mouth breathers will shift focus away

>you like celebrities right?
>you like roasties right?
>you like getting cucked right?

It just gets worse and worse and Hideo actually expected people to shove this log down their throats. Lmfao

>PS5 exclusive
lol, not a single game on this dogshit system has sold enough units to make its own production costs back

GOOD
I'm glad it sold like shit. Now bring it to PC KOJIMAAA

Sales fatigue

No one wants to play delivery simulators after their amazon shift

You think he cares?

>>718772072 (OP)
Imagine what will happen when the MGS3 remake sells better than Dead Shitting 2

>>718772072 (OP)
Konami did the right by getting rid of this hack.

sales =\= quality but I definitely want to see that hack retard get humbled

Physint will make back the money again

>>718772674
he was always an “ideas” guy. Letting him go full retard without a tard wrangler was a horrible idea for everybody. I can’t understand how somebody who watches so many movies can’t write for shit

>>718772072 (OP)
Shit I could have told you YEARS ago. It has no hook, no draw in, and the first game only sold on Kojima's name. Boring gameplay would have turned people off majorly.

Kojima's hubris has ruined himself and he spent like 7 years fucking around on stupid games no one wanted.

He should have done another military shooter with fruity ideas.

>>718773057
>the first game only sold on Kojima's name.
/thread. People were excited by the idea that it was Kojimas first project without “being held back” by Konami. Turns out he’s a fucking idiot and the game was a literal walking simulator

>>718772072 (OP)
Americans only need to learn english HOW DO THEY FAIL AT THIS?

>>718772072 (OP)
Nobody was going to fall for the "Kojima hype" a second time after playing that awful walking simulator.

>>718772072 (OP)
PC port when?

>>718772072 (OP)
Finally, some good fucking news

>>718772618
>scams Sony
>about to scam Xbox
BASED

This is completely irrelevant to Kojima. Very ((powerful)) forces are funding him. Just like with Hollywood, his games can flop as many times as he wants with zero consequences.

I enjoyed the first game, but as soon as I got a whiff of the even cornier shit in the second game, like Diehardman doing muh hecking gay black guy dance, the blatant obsession with wasting resources on real life actors like the uguuu kawaii gay ass photomode and that type of stupid shit, on top of making DS2 somehow easier than DS1, I checked out for good and am finally convinced that yes: Kojima is a fucking hack who needs to be regularly reined in.

Not enough scenes of Elle Fanning walking barefoot with the black goo on her soles.

Not gonna buy a PS5 lol, get porting

They aren't dumb, they knew that this was a niche AAA game so it wasn't gonna sell as well as FF or Spiderman. Or Horizon God of War, etc. It's cool that Kojima got to make two niche AAA games. Now it's time to produce a hit. Spiritual "Metal Gear Solid 6" that sells a bunch. Sony has unlimited money but they're not gonna fund for his celebrity walking sims over and over

>>718774035
I was hoping for an original IP after DS1. Now that the sequel is out of the way I’d like to see something original

>>718773154
>walking simulator
Opinion discarded.

>>718774252
you know what I mean. It’s not as egregious as other games where all you do is quite literally hold forward but it’s a weird autistic cargo carrying game (where you mostly hold forward)

>>718774035
Final fantasy doesn't even sell these days and spiderman was too expensive where the second one didn't make a profit. They're not going to Kojima forever. Death stranding 2 was his attempt at making the series a "big blockbuster" and mainstream. Issue nobody cares.

>>718772072 (OP)
I mean the game costs 80-90 dollars..
You see the problem right there. It should have been 40$

>>718774252
You’re right. I forgot this is a “stranding” game

The absolute fucking state.

as much as I would take great pleasure in knowing this shit flopped, it’s a little unfair to say it did until it releases on PC (I genuinely forgot the game was out that’s how little I’ve heard about it)

>>718772072 (OP)
Lol Pc is going to save it like the first game people seem to forget that Playstation users really didn't like the first one till the pc playerbase said it was great

>>718774641
>playstation fans don’t even buy their exclusives
why are they like this?

They clearly weren't counting on big sales considering what the first game was like. It's just an image product that shows that Sony sponsors creative developers.

Am I the only one who thinks the stories Kojima's recent games are more like just collections of lists of little tidbits of ideas that Kojima thinks are cool, rather than something more developed? MGS was a bit like that too.

>>718772072 (OP)
flopped and shitted AIIIEEEEEE

>free on egs this christmas
>kojima productions is proud to announce that death stranding 2 now has over 1.7 million players

>>718774353
>Death stranding 2 was his attempt at making the series a "big blockbuster" and mainstream.
was it? no matter how much money you throw at a niche idea, it will still always be a niche idea

>>718775019
MGS had a rigid structure that he was forced to follow because it was always a stealth game about nukes and robots. When he can make literally anything he just starts sharting himself and drooling

I've liked the first game because it was set in America and the verdant fields were really pleasing to the eye.
Fuck Africa or whatever other shit hole we got now, I don't want to catch malaria from some jungle bush, get fucked.

>>718774795
No one cares about "exclusives". They care about games. No one who owns a playstation is thinking "I need to buy this game I don't care about because it is a Playstation exclusive." They just look at a game and ask themselves if they want it or not

Of course it did. It's the most pretentious, boring, flagrantly retarded, insipid sequel ever made, which it had to be to top those metrics for the first game. Kojimbo in fact does need people to reign in his """""""""""""genius"""""""""""" because he completely disappears up his own ass when given full creative control of a project.

>>718772072 (OP)
heard it was woke and had quite a few girl bosses. if so then I'm glad it bombed :)

>>718772072 (OP)
>PS5 exclusive sells poorly
In other news, water is blue

>>718772072 (OP)
We are waiting for kojima to join the master race. Papa gaben will take care of him.

Am I the only one that thinks that 95% of the posts are op samefagging? Anyways the game sold poorly because everyone knows the game will come to PC and probably with a director's cut. Once it comes to pc there will be a x units sold soon afterwards

>>718776315
90% of /v/ is bots and samefags

>>718772072 (OP)
>we're never getting Beyond the Death Stranding feat. Elle's journey to connect Europe and Russia
fuck this world

>>718772072 (OP)
what the fuck does this face mean?

I boughted this game.
Did anyone else boughted this game?

>>718772072 (OP)
>boring game whose only selling point is being full of hollywood celebrities sells poorly
Who would've thunk?

>>718777967
its not boring

>>718777804
No, but I served with a company who boughted it

>>718772072 (OP)
Playstation owners only play CoD, Fifa, Fortnite and Niggerball.

Not surprising.

>>718772072 (OP)
damn it's a good thing he listend to those people and made the game less fun

>>718772072 (OP)
nobody boughted a PS5

>>718778160
do you think death stranding would have sold better on xbox? lmao

>>718772072 (OP)
if you want sales maybe don't make it Snoy exclusive in the age of PC Master race dumb Japs

>>718772072 (OP)
who the fuck still falls for Sony PlayStation exclusicivity and why

Something HUGE is about to come out about Kojima. Fucking weirdo deserves it as well.

>>718777804
I boughted it, but then I returnded it.

>>718778080
kek

I would've bought the game if it released on PC, I loved the first game.

>>718772072 (OP)
game will sell when it comes to PC.

>>718772072 (OP)
Is this really the best southeast asia can do now? shitpost when there's literally no news about a game?

>>718772072 (OP)
The story just isn't interesting enough for the average joe to even consider playing it and the gameplay is still very niche despite the improvements from the first game.

>>718772674
Yeah, kojima lost his touch and ds already got the meme done in the first game, rest is just kojima meeting celebrities, konami has the right idea to look for new talent to continue mgs

>>718772072 (OP)
>solded
Yeah, because I for sure didn't boughted.

Don’t worry Kojima will suck Geoff’s dick extra hard to make the money back

>>718772839
damn he's coding, modeling and doing sound design all by himself?

>>718772072 (OP)
Konami fired that gook for a reason

I mean

Release PC version

>>718773154
The PC release literally outsold the PS4 release, retard. Even after seeing what Death Stranding was, PC players still wanted to buy it. DS2 only “flopped” because it’s a Playstation exclusive and Snoys are retards who can’t play a game where you’re not constantly running around shooting people. Once DS2 releases on PC it’ll also outsell the PS5 release

>>718773540
Yeah already saw his mason red shoes though he is too autistic to be a mason and he is just following gaijins weird instructions so he can pose with his celebrities

>even normalfags refuse to buy hollywood slop
Based

>>718773154
>>718774252
The gameplay is NOT engaging and Kojimbo focused on story, cutscenes, celebrities, graphics and presentation. He intentionally was trying to make an anti-MGS game (little combat, violence, and bringing people together).

He should have made a supernatural military action game.

>>718778861
It's just his perverse fantasies.

artsy games never selled well

>>718774795
DS1 didn’t have enough gay sex or long monologues about BEING BETTER MEN

If I see “selled” one more time in the thread I’m gonna buy 10 copies of ds2 on clearance

>>718778869
so he made a video GAME and focused on everything other than the GAME part? Truly a genius

>>718778682
sure why not. Can (YOU) do the same?

>>718772072 (OP)
>[AWFUL NEWS]
That's a good actually. Retard made it less fun on purpose.

>>718778806
Thank you for making a good post anon. A lot of low IQ shitposting itt. DS2 will have the exact same story as DS1. It's just not a game console only players particularly care for. And that's okay. This idea that everything has to be for everyone is dumb

>>718778898
The first one is artsy. 2 is his attempt at making it an action mainstream game

>>718772072 (OP)
I bought the first death stranding 3 times and tried very hard to like it but the magic just isn't there, it's boring and unrewarding so I wasn't interested in death stranding 2. The final nail in the coffin was casting that ugly black woman as an important doctor. Fuck off kojima.

>>718776315
That’s basically every DS2 thread ever. Just one or two retards suffering from Kojima Derangement Syndrome spamming the same post over and over. The fact is Death Stranding has always strived to reach a niche audience and was never meant to be like the Cowadoodys that sell to millions of retards like OP

Thats a shame, i can get why people arent into at all.

>>718772072 (OP)
>PS5 exclusive
Yikes

>>718779038
Thats dumb. He should have pushed for a dual release instead but he opted to dumb it down and in japan called it in lose terms his "successor" to metal gear, all the while parading the actors, sugita and the vtuber as reasons to buy it

>>718774442
>OSHIETE
>HUNTER-SAN
>YOU ARE A GROWER NOT A SHOWER?
>GANBARE
>BANZAI

>>718779131
Not everyone is out to get you fags, and death stranding isn't some "small independent project". Nobody said it has to sell like call of duty but the fact it has no staying power or cultural impact is showing nobody cares about kojima crap anymore. It was just metal gear

>>718778304
It was literally tho 2nd most bought game on the Xbox store right behind Black Ops 6 the instant it came out, retard

>>718779131
>Sony funded
>not supposed to be a big seller

Anon just admit people don't care

>>718779446
Suicide squas was number 1 on all platforms for a week and that meant nothing

>literally nobody bought a PS5
>PS5 exclusive sells poorly
>”wtf how could kojima do this?”
I have anti-Kojima fatigue

>>718778869
>supernatural military action game
Isn’t that literally what the game is?

>>718773057
>and the first game only sold on Kojima's name
Well not just Kojima's name. It had several things going for it
>Kojima broke up with Konami on bad terms
>first independent Kojima's game after said breakup so people wanted to support him as fuck you to them
>very mysterious and alluring trailers with celebs
End then people played it and realised gameplay was a snorefest and it's just a very drawn out 6 hour movie.

>>718779397
>It was just metal gear
Don’t you dare compare death stranding to metal gear. Metal gear was phenomenal. But death stranding is just straight up boring kojima is so out of touch he even tried to copy his own past success kek

>>718779590
you're unbelievably stupid

>>718779446
did it sell better than ps5

>>718778869
Aside from PW and MGSV, which are great, Metal Gear is nothing but shit movies.

>>718779657
lol.

>>718779676
Boring sums up death stranding pretty well. It's so bland and empty with zero interesting characters or dialog. I'd always been a huge metal gear fan but I've never finished DS I just couldn't force myself to do it.

>>718779397
>cultural staying power
As opposed to what? Astro Bot? Wukong? Both of those games outsold DS2 and I never hear anyone talk about them. Hell, I’ve seen more Death Stranding threads than I’ve seen Astro Bot threads, and Astro Bot was supposed to be Sony’s darling console release. You have Kojima living rent free in your head, plain and simple

>>718779676
Metal Gear was only good at MGSV, the rest were retarded movies with embarassing gameplay, and worst of all, they were movies about absolute retardation such as "soldier genes" or a woman soldier that somehow stormed Normandy while giving birth and went to space.

>>718778682
Yes. He's a genius of the highest caliber. The credits for Physint will just be Kojima's name 1000x over.

>>718772072 (OP)
>Sales Update
When did this become the norm? Like when did people start giving a fuck about sales because I never have and never will.

>>718779782
>no argument except ad hominem
Pot, meet kettle

>>718779964
It’s okay, anon, you’re just retarded. The game simply isn’t for people like you. Maybe you should stick to your first person shooters and leave the thinking to other people.

>>718780098
I'll ad your hominem, B*TCH!

>sold 1.4 million copies in the month of June, not including preorders
>released on June 26
>1.4 million in 4 days
Kojima won

>>718780227
>>718780098
samefaggot is pretty fucking samefaggot just fyi

>>718780198
You seem to be mistaking intelligent for engaging.

>>718780198
cope harder kojimacuck, your game didn’t sell and has no impact

>>718780254
>analyst firm
that's a literal guess

>>718780345
Reminder that the only Metal Gears that still have an impact are MGSV and MGR, and that people dont even remembe the name "Solid Snake".

>>718779971
I don't care or think about kojima. I find these hug box threads funny. Nobody cares about this man. Not even the japanese

>>718780254
chicken seeds
you have two be abur to move at reast one mirrion units on day 1 and at least won burrion by week too

>>718780098
>literally nobody bought a PS5
ps5 is sitting at around 80 million units. i just called you dumb to save myself time typing this. ps5 games sell fine, but the exclusives dont because they've mostly been uninteresting to the console market and because they always come out on PC later. i for example, love spiderman. why would i buy the inferior ps5 version when i knew it would come out on pc in 6-12 months?

>>718780359
>n-no you c-can't bring real numbers into t-this
kojima won

>>718778869
>Kojimbo focused on story, cutscenes, celebrities, graphics and presentation. He intentionally was trying to make an anti-MGS
Lmao what the fuck am I reading, you described every single MGS except for MGSV.
All MGS games up until V are movies with barely any gameplay, and what little gameplay there is sucks dick.

>>718780019
It’s unironically just browns. At one point nobody actually cared how well a game sold. In fact, people would take pride in being fans of niche games and would look down at people who play mainstream normalfag shit like Halo. Then browns gained access to the internet and, being the sheep they are that can only follow the herd and judge a game based on how big its herd is, the norm suddenly changed. If you see any /v/ poster criticizing a game for its apparent poor sales, there’s a 99% he’s brown.

>>718780428
Didn't the ps4 sell more by this point?

Is Kojimba the biggest grifter in gaming atm?

>>718780428
Where did the ps5's go? I don't know a single person irl who owns a ps5 but everyone I knew had a ps2 in the day.

>>718772072 (OP)
Thanks for the update, Rajeet.
They should have released it on PC at the same time for better sales.

>>718780559
>grifter
>atm
Oh god, an American.

>>718772072 (OP)
>Death Stranding 2 solded
thanks god i didnt boughted it

>>718772674
Indeed. MGS V was huge mismanagement from his part.
>>718772864
Orson Welles once said that if you consume too much content, your work will start to get more and more derivative.
You should watch stuff but if you can only the best. Kojima on the other hand has said before he always tries to watch one movie daily, he is a consumer.

>>718780498
that's literally what I'm saying, it's not a real number, it's a guess

>>718780558
Google exists retard. It's been outpacing PS4 for years. This is without a new GTA game.

>>718780498
>(((analyst))) guess
>real number
this is getting sad, hopefully he pays you well

>>718779131
I keep seeing the same writing style and typos in all the posts shitting on this game. Makes me think.

>>718780558
no
>>718780586
i dont know. i worked at target for about 6 months last year and every day i sold multiple ps5s. they're out there

>>718780652
>MGS V was huge mismanagement from his part.
How? Its his best game by far, one that a decade later still gets 2000 daily players on Steam and keeps getting gameplay compilations.
If you want mismanagement look at the previous games, all cutscenes and almost no gameplay, and the worst shooting mechanics ever made.

>>718780586
Because you and the few friends you still have became stereotypical redditors. It's a normie console. PC is for neckbeards and fatties

>>718772072 (OP)
>>718772103
stupid ESL zoomers

>>718773446
A third time, if you count MGSV as the first walking simulator.

>>718772072 (OP)
It’s a great game, arguably Kojima’s best since MGS3, but it’s largely a retread of the first and doesn’t peak until the last few hours. The start is such a slow burn so I imagine it caused a lot of people to drop it and spread negative word of mouth.

>>718772072 (OP)
How come it doesn't work when they smile? Every other activity looks good but smiling is so jarringly fake it kills the whole scene.

>>718780559
I think he's a little bit like george lucas. He was good when he had good people around him shutting down his more retarded ideas.
I played all the metal gears plus stalker and policenauts but I would not finish death stranding unless someone paid me like 500 bucks.

>>718780797
>only MGS centered on gameplay
>walking simulator
I find it hilarious that, deep inside, the real issue the millennials of /v/ have is that his games now actually pay attention to the gameplay and arent just one cutscene after another.

>>718780790
I wouldn't consider MGS5 a mismanagement like the other anon did, but I can't help but to wish that the game did more with it's amazing gameplay and control scheme. It plays amazingly, and 50% of the gameplay is replaying the same few areas with different scenarios. Also I might be in the minority here, but I actually miss all the cutscenes from 4.

>>718780652
Literally everything wrong with MGSV was because of Konami, you fucking disingenuous nigger. Konami robbed us of what could’ve been the single greatest game ever made. You Konami bootlickers are fucking pathetic.

>>718780507
>Lmao what the fuck am I reading, you described every single MGS except for MGSV.
>All MGS games up until V are movies with barely any gameplay, and what little gameplay there is sucks dick.

Skip every cutscene and MGS is still very gameplay focused with an "arcade" like approach. Each room is a little puzzle you need to figure out how to navigate with a series of tools. There's a scoring system, ranking system, so it incentivizes you to play a certain way.

New weapons, enemies, set pieces, bosses, etc keep things fresh. On top of that kojimbo weaves a hollywood movie and radio drama that you can ignore if you want to.

Death Stranding removes all the interesting gameplay elements, reduces combat to almost nothing, and doubles down on "open world" shit. It's an anti-fun game. No wonder it doesn't draw people in. Sony were fools for not reeling Kojima in.

These games would NOT have sold entirely on their stories. As I said, you can skip all the cutscenes on subsequent playthroughs and the game still "works".

>>718780892
But Lucas has never made a single bad movie.

>>718780559
>is he
he hasn’t made a single successful game after leaving konami. His lack of capability is quite obvious at this point

Even normalfags have woke fatigue now

>>718780952
Skip the cutscenes and what you have left is 90 minutes of some of the worst stealth gameplay in the industry, and by far the worst shooting mechanics ever developed, which is egregious given all these games have forced action sections.
Metal Gear, until MGSV, was just Splinter Cell's autistic cousin.

>>718781076
Death Stranding is his best selling game though, with the second one being MGSV.
Look at that, people like it when games have gameplay.

>>718781170
You just proved me right, even his worst work is pure kino, and Star Wars is the magnum opus of cinema.
Too bad we didnt get to see his sequel trilogy.

>>718780530
The normie cattle don't buy games anymore. The only one's left are hobbiest. We used to track sales through magazines before. This isn't a new thing

>>718781078
Women get raped during war anon. It's not a hard concept to comprehend.

What are you talking about in this thread?

>>718781209
I'm going to need some hard proof that DS outsold mgsv

>>718781328
/v/ still asshurt that MGSV wasnt a movie.

>>718780705
I just checked the ps4 was about 10 millon sales and shipped units higher. Your thinking of microtransaction sales and profits

>>718781375
Nah you just made that up.

>>718781375
mgsv needed more levels AND more cutscenes

>>718772072 (OP)
where are the sfm videos with ds2 models

>>718780790
>If you want mismanagement look at the previous games, all cutscenes and almost no gameplay
Part of the original appeal of MGS was that cinematic experience back when cinematic experiences where not that common.
>How? Its his best game by far
Disagree completely. By far his best game is MGS3. If we are judging merits based on the jump of technology and surprises, MGS2 takes the cake and MGS1 was the game put MGS and Kojima on the map.
MGS V besides being incomplete and having some odd choices (like allowing you to build a mecha with Huey, only to not be able to use it) feels way too repetitive, in comparison PW allowed the player to game some unique missions to break the monotony, like Pooyan or MH missions.
>>718780943
>Konami robbed us of what could’ve been the single greatest game ever made.
Yeah. because DS was the greatest game ever made.
Get over yourself. I'm not defending Konami, they are a greedy company (ask any YGO player about how much Konami cares about them), but laying off Kojima was probably one of the few smart things they have done, you know what they say about broken clocks.

>>718781078
What's wrong with this? I've heard that the Doctor is easy to work with.

>>718781375
MGS built itself on a moviegame audience, why betray them?

>>718780013
I would unironically enjoy watching that

>>718781324
Women? With those masculine faces?

>>718781463
MGSV needed less cutscenes and a bigger focus on realism, make it a third person ArmA 3.

>>718781516
Those cinematic experiences werent common because absolutely no one was dumb enough to shove endless cutscenes into gamss.

>By far his best game is MGS3
That barely counts as a videogame, and the implementation of camo, food and injury treatment is Skyrim mod-tier.

>>718772072 (OP)
I would be surprised if he managed to sell amazon delivery simulator twice even if it is kojima.

>>718781209
I'm going to need some proof that DS had gameplay

>>718781540
Because those fags should fuck off and go watch actual movies instead.
Videogames need gameplay, not story.
And that's if the story was at least good, because Metal Gear's plot is absolutely retarded.

Remember this shit? It certainly doesn’t age very well kek

>>718781534
She makes my wallet hard to work with

>>718781818
How can an individual suck his own cock this much?

>>718780943
>Literally everything wrong with MGSV was because of Konami,
Well yes and no. Yes the game would have been much better without konami interfering but I'm pretty sure hideo was difficult to deal with and you can't just give him an unlimited budget, where do you draw the line?
The really interesting thing here is that ground zeroes was released to counteract the budget problems and the final game was castrated by budget problems anyway. What the hell man?

>>718780652
What’s so derivative about Death Stranding exactly? Does it have lootboxes? Does it have a battlepass? Is it a generic FPS like CoD or Halo? Is it a hero shooter? Is it rollslop? Is it a Genshin clone? Is it a turn based JRPG? Is it a Metroidvania? Is it a sports game? Please tell me exactly which game Death Stranding is trying to copy, since you sound so sure of yourself and even quoted some writer or whatever because you’re obviously so smart and not just some retarded faggot who has a seething hatred of Kojima for no reason.

>>718781694
>MGSV needed less cutscenes
totally disagree there. but elaborate on the bigger focus on realism. what else could they have done before they made it unfun? i dont want to have to patch up my wounds after every encounter

>>718781958
Generic walking simulator #585265

>>718781967
Survival mechanics, injury system, stamina, weight mechanics, being able to deploy your army, rapelling, and being able to pilot helicopters, boats and jets.

>>718772072 (OP)
Ps5 owners don't buy new vidya, they play 2K and fortnite

>>718781958
>me exactly which game Death Stranding is trying to copy
all the boring and generic indie walking simulators.

>>718781694
>Those cinematic experiences werent common because absolutely no one was dumb enough to shove endless cutscenes into gamss.
Anon, the reason cutscenes were not that common was because of the technology, and because games were made with a different mindset. Today we have literal movie-games, but back then besides a animated intro, it was weird to see more than that.
>That barely counts as a videogame, and the implementation of camo, food and injury treatment is Skyrim mod-tier.
Those were innovations to the gameplay. MGS was always a linear experience, and they weren't exactly long games, you could complete most of them if you skip cutscenes in two or three hours. But they were unique, the parts that had gameplay had interesting quirks and details that were uncommon for the time. Like being able to kill The End before his boss fight, or in MGS2 all the types of answer you could get from Otacon depending of the photos you send to him.

>>718779131
>hired every A list actor he could get his hands on
>UMMMM IT WAS NICHE TITLE THAT WASNT EXPECTED TO SELL WELL
Holy kek

>>718772103
Solded've

>>718782106
>Survival mechanics, injury system, stamina, weight mechanics
HOLY FUCKING ZOOMER BRAINROT
kys

>>718782189
>they were unique
Yes, they made retarded design choices no other franchise would make, such as giving you a top down camera in a game about situational awareness.
Its stupid gimmicks dont make the gameplay any less terrible.

What was the deal with the Solid Snake knockoff? I remember seeing people talk about him when revealed in the trailer but haven't seen any discussion since the game released so I assume they didn't do anything interesting.

>>718782357
Yes? Like in ArmA 3, make it a full milsim.
Oh, and I forgot, realistic bullet ballistics, the ones ingame are terrible and dont even get affected by wind.

>>718781958
>What’s so derivative about Death Stranding exactly?
Besides Kojima going overboard with cutscenes in a time fill with cinematic games?
DS is a game about delivering package from point a to b, there's nothing unique from that. Even the boss fights lack that unique experience his previous games had, ever since MGS4 most of his new bosses are bullet-sponges, PW gets a pass because the game borrowed mechanics from MH, but for DS and MGS V they are just bad.
>so smart and not just some retarded faggot who has a seething hatred of Kojima for no reason.
Take a few minutes to calm down.

>>718772072 (OP)
Fart huffing dogshit didn't sell. Shocked!

>>718782461
stfu zoomer go back to tiktok

>>718781956
>Japan didn't officially recognize that the Germans used gas chambers in the Holocausts until 1999
>Their previous prime minister belonged to a group that officially denied the Rape of Nanking
How are nips both the most cucked and based people on the planet at the same time?

>>718782472
>Kojima going overboard with cutscenes in a time fill with cinematic games?

>>718782397
>such as giving you a top down camera in a game about situational awareness.
MGS3S added a new type of camera, but you could always switch between third person and isometric camera
>Its stupid gimmicks dont make the gameplay any less terrible.
I say that's a question of taste. You obviously had strong opinions about MGS before MGS V, which is fine because that's your opinion, but those unique gimmicks made MGS special. In comparison, I don't see DS receiving the same type of praise or reception the MGS games earned almost three decades ago.

The thing on the right is a painting. The thing on the left is a game equivalent of this painting. The painting has some supposed deeper meaning to it but it is fucking bullshit. Art critics will humor retards with prominent names and agree that there is a deeper meaning to it when it is a fucking square everyone could make if they just spent some time. The marlin manson electic guitar guy would be laughed at by everyone if this wasn't done by kojima. It is an idea a kid in a playground would come up with. But nobody calls it out because it is the great Kojima who came up with this bold design idea.

>>718782804
Is that suppose to refute me? Because the amount of cutscenes doubled from MGS V to DS, even though they share similar playthrough times.
Kojima went overboard with cutscenes, again.

>>718781078
Gross

>>718772072 (OP)
>Mailman simulator sequel fails to sell
Whoa

>>718781078
That's probably the best she's ever looked in a video game. Those cunts were intentionally uglifying her to fit their agenda and Kojima is a generous man.

>>718782948
I tolerated the absurdities of MGS, but Kojima went overboard in DS, and even more in DS2. But what can't I do about it? He's La Creatividad, I'm not.

>>718772423
I find it weird that he didn't make Death Stranding a standalone game. I thought the whole point was that he wanted to branch out and create new genres.

Trying to read tea leaves for this sort of bullshit isn't helpful. That said, the fact that Sony isn't selling games concurrently and pulls exclusive shit, especially when its obvious that the PC has the largest potential sales base and the longest long-tail of sales, largest community etc.. is fucking insane.

Only the most devoted of wallet raped morons (and of course streamfags who see it as an investment) will buy the game on a console and then again on PC; most will simply use their preferred platform and/or wait for it. Those who really want the PC version but have to wait, are likely to keep waiting - after all the hype is gone and you were treated like shit - if it does arrive and instead pick it up only on a significant sale. Now even with this, PC still sells better and has a larger community - but it would be MUCH more viable if they didn't make people wait.

Sony has figured out that their Nixxes ports (when well done) have an audience - why make them wait 6-months to 2+ years to get what they want to play? Its not technical, its just PISSFIVE FIRSTERINO behavior and it isn't even paying off.

>>718772072 (OP)
it's a PC centric title of course it sold poorly on console made for dumb americans. shame kojima still had to use the stupid snoy engine and was probably obligated to keep it exclusive for this same reason even though the game would sell much better on PC. he's doing the same mistake with project physint but it's his funeral.

>>718783507
>intentionally uglifying her to fit their agenda
The real reason she is getting hired is that she doesn't have to be uglified after a face scan. Saves money.

>>718782106
I'm glad you don't design games.

>>718782106
MGS has never been any of this.

>>718772072 (OP)
snoys only play fifa, fortnite and cod
no surprises there

>>718772072 (OP)
Basically a repeat of the first game then
The game had no sale numbers until it went to PC
You'd think they learned with the first game but guess not.

>>718772072 (OP)
Why didn't nobody boughered it, I thoughted kojimbo was beloved by every gamers.

>>718783712
Only euros and jeets mainly buy ps5s these days. Where was the audience then?

>>718784245
Everyone sawed how overrated Kojima is

>>718772072 (OP)
soldeded?
selldeded?
selld?
seld?
solldod?
soos?
nigger?

>>718783867
mgs 3 has injuries and stamina.
mgs 1 has a rapelling sequence.
portable ops has soldiers deployment.

>>718784339
kojima said console americans are stupid. I trust his judgement.

>>718784123
>sony releases a game they funded as a timed exclusive on their own console
Who could've seen it coming?

luv Kojima
luv Shinkawa
luv Ludvig Forssell

keep on keeping on

How about we all go play a videogame right now. Let's do it.

>>718784663
by this point they should learn better.
The game being released on both platforms at the same time won't chew in on their sales, but in fact will gain more sales on both platforms.
They gain more money that way

>>718782038
>>718782179
>>718782472
Except the entire point of Death Stranding 1 and 2 is that the walking itself isn't just walking, you need to plot your route to avoid BTs or choose between risk/reward, make sure you carry enough supplies to navigate the terrain, manage your cargo weight and ensure it doesn't get damaged, choose whether or not to bring a vehicle, the list goes on. You can even rebuild roads which takes a good amount of resources that you need to collect or find, not to mention the different structures you make with the PCC. Death Stranding isn't just "press forward and walk to x destination," there's a level of involved gameplay that 'walking simulators' haven't ever tried to include. Tell me, what other game before DS did all of this?

>>718772072 (OP)
>>718772103
>>718775065
>>718777804
>>718778080
>>718778254
>>718778414
>>718778652
>>718782285
Stop fucking doing this. You're going to turn me into a fucking ESL.

>>718785336
Saled.

>>718774353
FF sells well. Just not gangbusters that it used to relative to the last few generations and all big corporations simply want line to go up forever.

>>718780790
>can't afford real guns
>can't afford real level design
>can't even afford the celeb to do more than 5 minutes of voice acting
>can't afford to finish one mission after it being halfway done
>can afford dates with a dutch broad

>[________ NEWS]
tranny thread

Release it on Xbox and I promise you it’ll get at least one more sale

nobody bought a ps5

>>718772072 (OP)
Kojima is culturally irrelevant.

>>718785635
82 million

>>718785423
A bit more than that if you add the casette tapes but it's still mostly ocelot and miller talking.

Playstation players are unfortunately too retarded to understand DS2. Wait until the game comes out for the master race.

>>718785772
Like 99% of those only play fortnite, call of duty and sports games

DS2 was an incoherent mess and Kojima cannot keep on one narrative. I had to drop it halfway.

He seriously needs to just make another military game that isn't ""cinematic"" but he's a hack and Konami was right firing his ass

Of course it sold poorly, it's still not out.

>>718786037
okay. you said nobody owns one

>>718786687
do you think it'll do well on PC?
I think it'll help but I don't think it'll help make up for how much the game cost to make

>>718772103
>>718782285
Fucking esl tards, its sold’d’ve’n’t’ly’gon’st’eth’dn’yer’ous’ly’esq’ified’n’tion’dst

>>718785236
If this board was devoid of these fucks who start shit up because they're bored we could have an actual discussion about such matters.

Everything you mentioned is inconsequential. The game itself pretends that all of this is worth considering but it doesn't have the balls to make any of it a gameplay reality. It's not PR lies from outside the game, the tooltips, the NPCs tell the player to be careful and equip the right item for the right situation yet a player who isn't equipped properly must not be interdicted or even inconvenienced much. DS has done something rare and unique: pretentious gameplay. It pretends to be what it's not and that's what pretentious means.
It's videogame magic just like cinema has its magic tricks, DS is a magician's show where nothing is real and everything relies on the spectator getting dumb for a while and falling for the lies. So please do equip this thermal pad it'll keep you warm and boost your delivery in the snow.
It is best not to play Death Stranding too much.

I understand you and your enemies are at war so it's all just argumentative ammo. This fight is pointless. I am the weapons' manufacturer and i've implemented small bombs inside each gun used to arm this conflict, die warriors and give my name to the devil for his paperwork.

my actual gripes with DS2

>new "gazer" type BT is kind of stupid to interact with, i much prefer the old style BTs and I really like the BT boss battles in this one, but the gazers are just really stupid and dont even feel fun to stealth past
>post game should have unlocked the ability to leave Dollman on the ship so Sam can use the coffin board for wanton murder, they are almost taunting you with it at one point where Die-Hardman says "be sure to bring dollman with you, if you can"
>ditching BB pod should open up an suit attach spot for chest
>i really didnt care for the pacing leading up to the higgs flamethrower scene; the scene itself is stupid up to rainy's arrival; and the call back to higgs tearing tomorrow's hair in the finale is just utterly ham fisted

>>718785680
why are zoomers like this?

>>718787208
yeah i agree with much of this, but i still think the game is still fun to play.

>>718785236
>>718787208
game just needs a setting or difficulty level that is the same exact thing as Brutal EXCEPT you can only save and exit in a private room, and there's no reloading whatsoever. now suddenly the game is challenging again. i really never got why a game with a "soulslike" lore mechanic for the protagonist to never get a definitive game over (a) has time attack/escort death/cargo breakage game overs and (b) lets you load a save after you biff an order and only get a B rank evaluation.

>>718787861
Kojima and his games didn't stand the test of time. By 2016, MGS was completely forgotten. His games were just a moment in time. This generation wouldn't even have known about MGS if not for the HD collection, and it sold poorly. He had no impact on the industry. In another 10 years, he'll be forgotten. He can keep telling his aging fanboys that he's innovating, but in reality, he has mad no impact on anything and he never will.

>>718787443
Agreed about the attachment point but we're supposed to feel the literal empty load on sam's chest. The phantom attachment point. We're still operating on that level here, jesus help me.

>>718788128
>it's ludonarrative
fine, but either have someone say something about it or maybe make it a postgame treat now that everything's tied up wwrt BB

Threads like this are a diamond dozen.

>>718787142
that's some cthulhu shit anon

>>718783668
wat

>>718785680
>>718788103
why are you like this?

>>718780013
fucking kek would be gigabased

>>718772103
go back to honduras right now.

Can’t wait for /v/ to suck off DS2 once it gets ported to pc just like with the first game

>>718788047
Of course the game's fun to play i would not be pointing out its inadequacies had i not played both of them for 300+ hours. I've jump on stage, sneaked behind the magician's curtain, touched every tool, sniffed the assistant's panties and masturbated in the saw-box.
I don't get to complain after doing that.
Despite everything the one part of the game that remains endlessly fun is the combat against human enemies, best punch-feel rendered in any videogame right now.

>>718789458
i want them to go full ground zeroes for ds3

>>718772072 (OP)
Nobody has'ed a PS5

>>718781638
Actual rapists don't care how someone looks, they care about exerting force. Like every other 4chan "rapist" you're just a larping cunt trying to be edgy while not having a clue.

>>718789642
se >>718785772

>>718772072 (OP)
should have made a new game
DS1 didnt need a sequel, it was a self contained story with a concrete ending
should have done that horror game

>>718789515
I want them to respect my gamer skills and stop treating me like a grandma who's still discovering videogames in 2025. What's wrong with sweating hard?

Finally I can say it without being called a contrarian, Kojima is a hack.

>>718772072 (OP)
It came out?
I thought it got like a demo or something and was due next year.
Huh.
Did get the first one for free, never tried it. Seemed like a time sink.

>>718790314
It's a time sink for sure. Personally i've got no legs so i like walking in games.

I've ne'er played a MGS game before and I never will. It's gay as fuck without me knowing anything at all about it.

>>718790314
>Did get the first one for free, never tried it. Seemed like a time sink.
It takes about 30-40 hours to complete. It's not a very long game.

>>718790632
I only played Twin Snakes on my cousin's gamecube. They look like good games.

The fate of the PS5 Exclusive

>>718790904
It's time to end this. I swear this PS5 will be my last console.

>>718772072 (OP)
Should've done a PC release if you want more sales

>>718780905
>MGSV
>gameplay
You find it hilarious because you're a fucking retard.

V has a nice selection of guns, but every map (that you're going to revisit dozens of times) is a wide open space, and the enemy AI is awful. So, what is there to do but walk from one objective to the next, and then use vehicles to get there even quicker?

>his games now actually pay attention to the gameplay and arent just one cutscene after another.
So, moving on from V's wide open spaces with nothing to do, we now have:

wide open spaces with nothing to do, and more hollywood actors in cutscenes. le Stranding type game!

>>718785772
>>718789807
Most is fucking scalpers from memedemic and the others plays third party

you guys are memeing right? don't tell me you're too poor for a ps5 and are grapesposting? Death Stranding 2 is unironically a masterpiece

>>718790632
Oh no, someone didnt play one of the most famous video game franchises of all time, what a loss.

>>718791257
>wide open spaces with nothing to do
as opposed to tiny rooms and open spaces with walls around with nothing to do.

>>718779131
It's a lot of threads, with a lot of different subject matters. Every XIV thread, every Elin thread (both also have obsessed Jannie cumswallowers who delete every thread that doesn't have a negative/shitpost OP), every Silent Hill thread, every Lies of P thread.

Who the fuck cares. If it was good, it was good regardless of sales.

>>718791556
claim: no one bought it
response: wrong. 82 million

stop moving goalposts

>>718773453
1 year "exclusive" I guess

>>718791257
Based take. MGSV has solid mechanics, but it's like driving a Ferrari through a Walmart parking lot-smooth controls, but nowhere to go and nothing worth doing. Every mission starts feeling like copy-pasta after the 10th outpost. And Death Stranding just doubled down on that formula but added Norman Reedus pissing on rocks and pretending it's deep. Kojima peaked at MGS3, fight me.

No one will bye this sorts of game... PS5 owners want Call of Duty or Neught Dogs games.

>>718791771
Yeah, as opposed to them. Is there a problem with this?

These are stealth action games. The levels are designed as puzzles for you to get through, not stay in them and collect useless bits of grass and small animals. If you go into every game expecting Animal Crossing, you should be disappointed. If you take this collecting gimmicks out of V, then there is genuinely nothing to do in this vast empty space except walk/drive across it and go to your objective marker and watch the cutscene.

I even remember people saying at the time and they still say it now
>this isn't an MGS game, it's a really dumbed down Far Cry game

>>718772674
The most overrated figure in gaming history. His entire career is just shitty attempts at making movies and meeting celebrities because he could never make it in the film industry.

>>718790836
>It takes about 30-40 hours to complete
BULLSHIT. I've got 240 hours and I'm STILL not done getting big rainbows on all the challenges.

>>718773057
He should've just rebooted Metal Gear under a different name with an actually comprehensible story/timeline and unburdened by 25+ years of bloat and nonsense. There's far too few good stealth espionage games, we have enough faggot third person cutscene heavy walking simulators as it is.

>>718792607
I completed the whole story in less than 37 hours. I don't give a flying fuck about the challenge deliveries. That's extra stuff and not part of the main game.

Chuds keep sitting in their dark room saying everything failed while the developers keep making more games

At some point you have to realize you're a crab in a bucket and want everyone to be as miserable as you

>>718792327
>The levels are designed as puzzles for you to get through
How can they be puzzles if you know where you should go and the guards are blind and deaf?
>not stay in them and collect useless bits of grass and small animals. If you go into every game expecting Animal Crossing, you should be disappointed.
Well I would be disappointed because V has none of that, you don't need to collect anything. Missions take place in specified zones and you get in, kill/rescue/destroy/etc. and get out without being seen.

>>718792018
>Kojima peaked at MGS3, fight me.
4, but close

>>718792018
>Kojima peaked at MGS3, fight me.
I'll break your fucking skull nigger

will we ever see Kojima admit that he lost at least once?

>>718792915
>Missions take place in specified zones and you get in, write in the words, and get out without erasing anything
anon is slowly discovering the concept of a video game

I too love the taste of Konami's pearly pachinko cum.
They definitely have done no wrong between now and 2004.

>>718792774
Y-you didn't beat the game!
I like that Death Stranding can be completed in a reasonable amount of time, but has plenty of meaningless extra content for those who crave more.

FACT if ayylmaos came to earth RIGHT NOW and asked for the world best bideo game, they'd get DS2.

>>718792018
Exactly.

All other MGS games, even Rising are designed with the player in mind and not faggot ass open world realism
>we need a place for our tranny deers to roam!

>>718792915
I've noticed that with every post, you try to change the subject.

>How can they be puzzles if you know where you should go and the guards are blind and deaf?
You're moving the goalposts to the soldier AI, but they're blind and deaf in V as well. They patrol around their empty box building (which sometimes has a mission captive/marker object inside) that takes you ten minutes to drive to.

>Missions take place in specified zones and you get in, kill/rescue/destroy/etc. and get out without being seen.
And here, you're pretending not to have read this reply chain. There's no challenge in optionally waiting for someone to walk away from a door after travelling a kilometre through nothing in a fucking armoured vehicle. This is just a chore. Driving or walking through a massive empty space, to kill someone or rescue someone, or to fire an RPG at something, is not good gameplay, and it is not good MGS gameplay.

What you want to get back to badly, what you have been steering the conversation to, is collecting your faggot birds and vegetables for Mother Base, and that you need the big open space because there's nowhere to put these faggot birds and vegetables, if you build an MGS style military base maze for the player to sneak or fight through and put your objectives in there.

Don't worry. Sony will bundle the game and claim the game sold 10 million copies.

>>718785336
ok, I will not doing it anymore.

>>718791728
I've never heard of these games. I never hear my friends talk about these games. When I look in these threads, it's pure cringe shit. When I look at videos of these games, it's like an early version of TLOU. When I ask people about these games, it's like babby's first trip. These games have been a thing since, whenever, I still haven't played them. In all honesty, this seems like dead internet shit. A bunch of bots talking up a gay version of Contra.

>>718772072 (OP)
>vtroon cameo
>undersells
Get woke, go broke.

>>718793587
By that same logic MGS3 is a shitty game because you can (but never forced to) collect animals, camos and other useless bullshit. Or dog tags in MGS2. Your point about collecting shit in the map is irrelevant since you never have to do it. It's not the point of the game. Never was. If you want to shit on a game where you nab every object on the map try Survive.

>>718793651
They will put in on PC for $10 like DS1 and then claim it sold a million copies despite being 1/7th the price.

>make a game exclusive to a console bought almost exclusively by guys who only play CoD, Madden, FIFA and Fortnite
>surprised it doesn't sell
You want to make a game that's interesting, but too advanced to run on Switch? Put it on PC or go to hell.

>>718794969
It will be exclusively released on macOS next year.

>>718794969
Fuck he's right

>>718794251
>by that same logic
No, it's not, you're still completely missing the point.

The other MGS games have good level design. You're forced through military bunkers and other kinds of building, as well as varied outdoor areas (that are almost never just a empty plane with or without hills or trees or a few scattered empty boxes to hide captives marked by objective markers in). You still have options on how you get there and how you deal with these things. In V, most of your time is spent moving from one big empty area to your objective marker.

Yes, you can collect things to eat in 3, but even that ties into the MGS stealth gameplay - you are trying to eat while completing the mission. Walking across a vast open area to collect butterflies for Mother Base to unlock better guns to do what? Kill the faggots walking around the isolated box in the open world, slightly quicker? Most of the time in the game is spent walking or driving to him without thinking about anything. Random enemy in the way? Just run him over, he's not important. It's not like this is an MGS game or anything.

The walking, the collecting, and even the combat, are all clearly intended to pad out V as an unfinished game, with the payoff being cassette tapes and cutscenes where you can listen to Sutherland cough.

>>718795084
>DEI
What did he mean by this?

>>718795486
>I'm not gay
>I'm just wearing the uniform

>>718795287
Alright faggot, have a nice day arguing with yourself. Don't forget to breathe.

>>718795486
>Nworder

>REEEEEE IT FLOPPED GUIZ
>then why are they still in business with 3 projects in development
>UH UHHHHHH ITS BLACKROCK OR SOMETHING

why are contrarians like this, board said death stranding 1 was a flop too yet made another

>>718789134
>The only way for Kojima to be able to make the news is if he gets accused of sexual assault by a celebrity
Grim. Should have been culturally relevant

>>718772103
Is selt or solt

>>718795084
I'll buy the Mac version and see how it runs. I hope more games come to MacOS so that I can stop owning a Windows machine altogether

>>718796649
It's kind of based. The M GPUs are actually quirky and cool, almost like a console GPU. Would be rad to live in a timeline where Macs are the gamer's choice because the rot has set in so deep in Windows that simple work becomes difficult.

>>718772674
>konami went right by cancelling projects and firing one of their biggest talents
Faggots trying to defend Konami's actions will never not be hilarious

>>718797404
I've lived in japan for years and nobody cares. People still like konami and enjoy what they put out. Bombergirl and recently shine post are quite popular. Its telling how kojima did a big media tour there and nobody cared

>>718797276
An M4 Mac Mini has a GPU more powerful than a 4060 and you get the whole PC for less than $500.
If only more big developers supported it, or Valve gave up on their grudge against Apple for dropping 32-bit support and ported Proton to the Mac, macOS could actually destroy Windows.

>>718797404
Konami is one of Japan's top earners. Sony and M$ have been bleeding themselves dry making the kinds of games Kojima wants to make

>>718797618
My brief blush with Metal wasn't great. Either for documentation or support. Apple doesn't want gamers for one reason or another. I'm not going to second guess them, but there's something more than just "devs should support them" going on.

>>718794969
The switch has no games and most games sell horribly there

>>718797939
>Apple doesn't want gamers for one reason or another.
Could've fooled me with how many devs they've been paying to port games to their platform, but they need to make it easy so they don't need to pay devs, the devs just do it on their own.

>>718797939
>Apple doesn't want gamers for one reason or another.
They're switching their stance. Over the last few years they've been making more moves to compete. Small moves, but moves.

>>718798195
They could compete by implementing the full vulkan stack in Metal. Overnight there would be thousands of games that could run on macOS if they just did that. They're 80% of the way there. They just stubbornly refuse to go the last 20% for some reason.

>>718797613
>and nobody cares. People still like konami and enjoy what they put out
This is /v/, not Japan.

The Konami debacle goes way beyond Kojima himself. Konami literally decided to nope out of vidya for the better part of a decade because their new CEO thought mobile was the future. Kojima's departure only upset Metal Gear fans, now imagine how Castlevaniafags, Silent Hillfags, Contrafags and more all felt when their IPs became graveyards because Konami decided to shitcan game development.
>>718797626
Okay Mr shareholder

>>718798458
Kojimbo was partially responsible for Castlevania dying since he's the one who produced the Lolz of Shadow deboot. The other franchises died because their sequels kept failing

>>718772674
Konami didn't get rid of him because he had shit ideas they got rid of him because they weren't even making video games anymore

>>718799121
They still did actually. But they scaled back leaned on franchises that actually brought in money like Yugioh

>>718795653
>MGSV is a bad game, here's why
>actually, MGS3 has collectibles, too! And what about that Survive??
>MGS3's collectibles and Survive are not relevant to why V is a bad game, again, here's why
>h-heh, h-have fun arguing with yourself
Pathetic trolling.

>>718799449
Imagine a high budget Yugioh or Dungeon Dice Monsters game. Instant GOTY. Especially if they add in the cheating from the show.

>>718799629
>MGSV is le bad because you have to collect le stuff
cool argument

>>718772072 (OP)
Because it's a two month old game on Nogaymsstation 5 only.

>>718778869
The actual game systems are entirely insufficient. You can make a peaceful type of game that isn't so painfully dull both in story and gameplay. As mroe of the setting was shown in the first DS I literally could not tune out faster especially with how not scary the ghosts are. His studio should make an online coop game if they want to stay in business assuming Sony isn't keeping him on bankroll.

>>718800667
OD will save Kojima Productions. With Jordan Peele at the helm, there's no way it won't be the greatest horror game ever concocted.

>>718780952
I'm not a Death Stranding speedrunner but I'm sure you can get autistic about deliveries

>>718799629
Too bad you get Duel Links and will play that forever Notice how the games stopped coming after its release

>>718772072 (OP)
They can just pretend they won!