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L M A O
Anonymous No.718785992 >>718790360 >>718793154 >>718804395
>>718785917 (OP)
Soulless shit on top
Anonymous No.718786002
He looks like a little toy soldier
Anonymous No.718786020 >>718786292 >>718788952 >>718789304 >>718789867 >>718790004 >>718790115 >>718790202 >>718791534 >>718792164 >>718792210 >>718797730 >>718797882 >>718800193 >>718804812
yeah you shouldn't remake stuff. Do you remake movies the way you remake games? yeah that's right. That's why this piece of shit media will never ever be considered "art" lol
Anonymous No.718786096 >>718786227 >>718787271 >>718788854 >>718789154 >>718793949 >>718794354 >>718796295 >>718796404 >>718796971 >>718798589 >>718799469 >>718799501 >>718802394 >>718803850 >>718804157 >>718805058 >>718805960
does no one in the industry understand art direction anymore?
Anonymous No.718786170
>>718785917 (OP)
holy soulless
Anonymous No.718786227
>>718786096
dude but gwafix
Anonymous No.718786237
>>718785917 (OP)
Looks like a 2015 hire this man video lmao
Anonymous No.718786243 >>718789002 >>718795024 >>718797646 >>718797762 >>718798067
>>718785917 (OP)
lower looks like those shitty 3d porn comics
Anonymous No.718786292 >>718789227 >>718789304 >>718790360 >>718790409
dam, top aged like fucknig milk
>>718786020
>Apples to oranges? yeah that's right. That's why I'm a Dunning Kruger retard lol
Anonymous No.718786413
>>718785917 (OP)
unironically LMAOed my ass off when I opened the image
Anonymous No.718786434 >>718786534 >>718786587 >>718791891
You know tip is bloomed and fogged out to fuck to hide the small level the cemetery is in. I bet if you toned it down you'd see a void and skybox.
Anonymous No.718786459
I'm just going to shit on anything with improved fidelity because I can't afford it
Anonymous No.718786494 >>718786626 >>718786721 >>718790360
>>718785917 (OP)
bottom looks better
top looks like some kind of weird dimension
Anonymous No.718786534 >>718787140 >>718791594
>>718786434
>hide the small level the cemetery is in
It's not any bigger in the remake, maybe you SHOULD hide it. Also all those god rays make the scene look more otherworldly, more heavenly
Anonymous No.718786536
KONAMI HIRE THIS MAN
Anonymous No.718786587 >>718786638 >>718790676
>>718786434
Okay? Doesn't change the fact that the old version, with all the limitations you pointed out, looks much better than the new one.
Anonymous No.718786626 >>718790431
>>718786494
>some kind of weird dimension
Yeah almost like it's meant to convey a moment of communion with a dead comrade or something. Real wacky looking frfr
Anonymous No.718786638
>>718786587
maybe if you're colorblind
Anonymous No.718786721
>>718786494
>top looks like some kind of weird dimension
Dude you're so right, glad they finally fixed Kojima's blunder all those years ago.
Anonymous No.718786807 >>718786876 >>718789761 >>718790087 >>718792682 >>718796745 >>718798890 >>718799157 >>718804831 >>718805468
>>718785917 (OP)
>bloom and anti sovl gas is.. le good when it's old
Anonymous No.718786835
>>718785917 (OP)
Looks simply impeccable. Can't wait to get my hands on this.
Anonymous No.718786836
>>718785917 (OP)
kek
remake looks bad as fuck
Anonymous No.718786876 >>718797038
>>718786807
his games are safe and boring too
Anonymous No.718786896 >>718786939
why does /v/ like pissfilters and bloom now?
Anonymous No.718786939
>>718786896
It's OK when PS2 games do it.
Anonymous No.718786960
The top looks really bad, though. It reminds me of the the 2000's where they used really awful graphical effects like bloom/godrays etc to cover up bad textures.
Anonymous No.718786986
>Top: anti-soul gas and bloom out the ass
>Bottom: high fidelity virtual realism
Anonymous No.718787021 >>718787096 >>718790142
>>718785917 (OP)
>top is just a recycled texture from somewhere else placed on a completely flat plane that obviously cuts off
>ultra bright light and godrays up the ass to hide that ugly shit
>bottom looks like a perfect graveyard
I mean, the most you could complain about with this remake (and this applies to it as a whole) is the post processing effects
the original's palette game was on point while the remake just makes everything into real life which wasn't really the point of Kojima "cinemaman" Hideo
Anonymous No.718787040
>>718785917 (OP)
Why are modern game developers so afraid of contrast?
Anonymous No.718787080
KONAMI!
GREAT JOB ON HIRING THAT MAN!
Anonymous No.718787096 >>718787325
>>718787021
>the original's palette game was on point while the remake just makes everything into real life which wasn't really the point of Kojima "cinemaman" Hideo
I'm not seeing Kojima anywhere in the credits?
Anonymous No.718787140 >>718789205 >>718789928 >>718791489 >>718791594 >>718794129 >>718803148
I'm oldfag enough to remember the constant memes and people shitting on BLOOM AND GODRAYS now faggots call it "soul" and make up pretentious nonsense like >>718786534
for some reason
Anonymous No.718787173 >>718789320 >>718792474 >>718794006 >>718807014 >>718807582
>>718785917 (OP)
If they were gonna butcher it this hard why not at least try and recreate how it looks in 4 so it doesn't look like an asset flip?
Anonymous No.718787192
so this is the power of unreal engine er, i mean, fox engine
Anonymous No.718787227 >>718792661
>>718785917 (OP)
What sfm video is bottom from?
Anonymous No.718787271 >>718788392 >>718788897 >>718789221 >>718790519 >>718791916 >>718792173
>>718786096
Anon, the top is just blasting bloom and fog on top of one another.
Anonymous No.718787309
>>718785917 (OP)
bottom is beautiful. 4k Goodness all through the cemetery, what a great remake. the top looks terrible unfortuately, glad we have a superior method
@grok when did the original come out?
Anonymous No.718787325
>>718787096
And yet it's still a remake of a Kojima movie game
Anonymous No.718787364 >>718787679 >>718789617 >>718792493 >>718793927
Anonymous No.718787436 >>718797525
>>718785917 (OP)
Am I supposed to be mad the bottom looks better?
Anonymous No.718787505 >>718795564
>>718785917 (OP)
I'd just like to point out that in the remake version the god rays don't actually line up with the natural lighting of the environment.
I have no idea how thousands of eyes passed by the most crucial scene in the game and didn't catch that.
Anonymous No.718787679 >>718788861
>>718787364
this doesnt fix it, you gotta darken the graves too. it creates contrast within the background
Anonymous No.718787708
>>718785917 (OP)
which WEG is this
Anonymous No.718788242 >>718788605
>>718785917 (OP)
God damn. Why can't cinemacucks not into composition? The background is supposed to be washed out white because Heaven. That's the whole point. It's supposed to be greater than human. It's supposed to be heavenly and holy. Instead they make the fucking BG black rocky shit? what the fuck?
Anonymous No.718788358
>>718785917 (OP)
the game has a mgs3 filter retard
Anonymous No.718788392
>>718787271
you don't understand, it's only washed out, anti-soul gas when it's a modern game
Anonymous No.718788456
>>718785917 (OP)
ANNNNNNNNNNNND FUUUUUUUUCKINGGG DROPPED

I HAVE DEMAKE FATIGUE
Anonymous No.718788605
>>718788242
>killer whore
>heaven
lmao
she's going straight to hell
Anonymous No.718788625 >>718789849
>>718785917 (OP)
Soulless
Soul

What’s with all the shitty fog and lens flare on the top? Can’t even tell what I’m looking at.
Anonymous No.718788735
>>718785917 (OP)
Imagine creating this and not asking yourself "maybe those dark tombstones were important?", they just used some default concrete material from database
Anonymous No.718788751 >>718789010 >>718789146 >>718789206 >>718789673 >>718789708 >>718790675 >>718794753 >>718795161
>>718785917 (OP)
>apply a basic bitch color filter
>10x better
wow
Anonymous No.718788837
>>718785917 (OP)
I don't wanna be buried in a jeet cemetery.
Anonymous No.718788854
>>718785917 (OP)
>>718786096
retards
Anonymous No.718788861 >>718789019 >>718789148 >>718793351 >>718799390 >>718802134 >>718802982
>>718787679
The graves are white because that's what an actual American military cemetery looks like
Anonymous No.718788897
>>718787271
It's suppose to be a contrast between the blinding light rays from above and the dark head stones below.
Anonymous No.718788909
Bottom legit looks like SFM
Anonymous No.718788952 >>718790446
>>718786020
But when a game does remake something differently like you suggested with FF7, everyone autistically screeches.
Though I guess you’re saying the lesson is to not bother wasting money with remakes.
Anonymous No.718789002
>>718786243
Kek this actually made me laugh irl, it really does.
Anonymous No.718789010
>>718788751
bloody bastard sir delete this bastard shit
Anonymous No.718789019 >>718792617
>>718788861
Retard.
Anonymous No.718789078 >>718789310 >>718792315
>>718785917 (OP)
Anonymous No.718789117
Man was FFX remaster not enough of a lesson
Anonymous No.718789146 >>718789284 >>718800005
>>718788751
Retard, top image has a composition, a white background and dark tombs around the silhouette, bottom one is just a silhouette on uniform grey, like it's a bad photoshop edit or xnalara render. Really, nobody from nu-devs learnt anything about painting and storyboards
Anonymous No.718789148
>>718788861
>t. worked on the demake
Anonymous No.718789153
>>718785917 (OP)
I simply refuse to play this game, not because of it being a remake but because I refuse to give Konami a single cent of my cash after what they did to IP with MG:Survive.
Anonymous No.718789154
>>718786096
>pajeets
>understanding art direction
lmao
Anonymous No.718789205
>>718787140
Anonymous No.718789206
>>718788751
>green mud filter

It looks better than the top picture but worse than the original
Anonymous No.718789221 >>718792891
>>718787271
>Anon, the top is just blasting bloom and fog on top of one another.
that's an artistic technique, the post your replying to referred to art direction
Anonymous No.718789227
>>718786292
>dam, I'm trans.
Happy for you sister
Anonymous No.718789231
>>718785917 (OP)
I don't know what's worse, that ugly demake slop, or the retarded nigger shills trying to defend it
Anonymous No.718789284
>>718789146
my point is even a simple low effort filter atop the image looks better than the default
Anonymous No.718789304
>>718786020
>>718786292
But movies get remade all the time
Anonymous No.718789310
>>718789078
I'm 37 and for years, my biggest wish as a gamer was to see FF7 with advanced graphics. When I learned it would be a thing it was already too late, I knew it was doomed to be soulless.
Anonymous No.718789320
>>718787173
God I fucking hate the excessive post processing on 4.
Anonymous No.718789419 >>718789483
"bloom and brown" is a journalist yarn just like "too japanese"
Anonymous No.718789446 >>718789570
>brown
>bloom
>anti-soul gas
vs
>color
>correct exposure
>god-rays without dense fog
Anonymous No.718789483
>>718789419
"brown and bloom" was reintroduced by some twitterfag, i know this is true because i remember the constant spam when faggots from here screencapped it
Anonymous No.718789495 >>718789703 >>718794702 >>718796739
>>718785917 (OP)
I love it when normie faggots think a remake is better because it's technically graphically superior to the original despite the fact that the remake has absolutely no idea how to remake scenes.
Anonymous No.718789528 >>718790479
>>718785917 (OP)
bottom looks better
Anonymous No.718789570 >>718789996
>>718789446
>>color
>>correct exposure
>>god-rays without dense fog
Conveying nothing but advanced technology.
Anonymous No.718789607 >>718790561
>>718785917 (OP)
These dumb fucks can't see why top was executed in that specific way? It's like millennials can't register symbolism
Anonymous No.718789617
>>718787364
what the fuck
Anonymous No.718789621 >>718790618
>>718785917 (OP)
>top has Snake's eye hidden in shadow to conceal if he's crying or not in that shot
>bottom he has what looks like the fucking default expression
Anonymous No.718789673
>>718788751
explain this shit
Anonymous No.718789703 >>718789829
>>718789495
>furfag thinking his opinions matter

Yeah I'd sure love to see what your opinions would be on an RE5/Deus Ex 3 remake without those piss filters.
Anonymous No.718789706
>inb4 pirate jeet screencaps this thread
Anonymous No.718789708
>>718788751
delete this saar
Anonymous No.718789710 >>718789949
boomers be like
>WHERE IS MY EXCESSIVE BLOOM!!! I CAN SEE TOO MUCH!!! I MUST BE BLINDED BY LIGHT!!
Anonymous No.718789761 >>718797038
>>718786807
dude is the KING of movieslop in videogames and says this lmao
Anonymous No.718789829
>>718789703
Never played RE5 but HR's piss filter needed to go so the later edition was justified.
Anonymous No.718789849
>>718788625
Npc zoomer hands wrote this post
Anonymous No.718789867
>>718786020
Movies get remade more than video games do, lmfao. You CANNOT be THIS unaware of your surroundings.
Anonymous No.718789918 >>718798823
we used to beat people for making stuff like that
Anonymous No.718789928
>>718787140
BROWNAN BLOOM

Classic.
Anonymous No.718789949 >>718790829 >>718792307
>>718789710
It's done on purpose to convey a sense of transcendence between life and death you dense mongoloid
Anonymous No.718789996 >>718790213 >>718790618 >>718792553
>>718789570
You're absolutely retarded if you think the top conveys more artistic expression than the bottom just because it has a 2008 sensibility about photographic effects. If the game never existed and it was made today by Kojima, it would look like MGSV or Death Stranding, it would have those sensibilities. The meaning would be the same. The content is not the bloom and shit color grading.
Anonymous No.718790004 >>718803391
>>718786020
Americans remake everything they can, because they none of them have a soul, but they really want it.
They can't go out and encounter real soulful media. They need some jewish reimagining, some big daddy has to chew the stake for them, if some movie is raw, they can get sick and they sue you. The whole country is sick.
Rome need to send a new crusade to the Hollywood and burn half of it
Anonymous No.718790069
>>718785917 (OP)
Bottom is the ugliest shit I've seen in a while.
This is why you don't outsource games to shitskins
Anonymous No.718790087
>>718786807
>anti sovl gas
that's not even what's going on in that image, that's for open world shit
Anonymous No.718790115 >>718790336 >>718799221 >>718800557 >>718806930
>>718786020
reminder people hated john carpenter's The Thing on release because it wasn't like the 50s version
Anonymous No.718790142 >>718790271 >>718790671 >>718794160 >>718794651 >>718798549 >>718799060 >>718799220
>>718787021
>it looks like a graveyard okay so it's good
you people are FUCKING RETARDS and i am sick to bastard death of you i swear to fucking christ.
things should not look "like a real graveyard" or like a real anything, because realism IS A BAD FUCKING GOAL. fictional media does not have the limitations of reality, which is why they can convey 1000x more in a scene even if that scene takes place in an ordinary location, because that ordinary location in reality is dogshit and doesn't convey jack shit. the purpose of a scene or image or passage or anything in fiction is to drown the consumer of said fiction in atmosphere completely and evoke things that real life rarely evokes and struggles to evoke.
if you want to make "realism" you should be banned from every creative fictional medium and fucking blacklisted because you're a dumb piece of shit who doesn't understand the goal
the graveyard in this scene is meaningless by itself, it is the created atmosphere and what it evokes in the player that matters - and that is achieved not by "oh a realistic graveyard" but by the audio, by the camera, by the lighting, by the fake, unrealistic perfect alignment of things all which were the choice of someone because they KNEW what result they were trying to achieve. they were hand crafted, they were not just a fucking toggle in UE5 to let it automatically handle it or something a jeet shat out with no real goal and no concept of mind or understanding of feelings
Anonymous No.718790178 >>718790268
>>718785917 (OP)
>Spend 3 years on a remake
>It runs at 1080p at a shaky 30-40fps
Kwab

It doesn't even look that good bros
Anonymous No.718790202 >>718794842
>>718786020
Not only do movies get remade more than games, they also get re-released with no graphical upgrades whatsoever. And still earn millions AGAIN in the box office.
Anonymous No.718790213 >>718790628
>>718789996
Why the contrast is all over the place on the bottom one? Do indians understand what a focus is?
Anonymous No.718790268 >>718790345
>>718790178
were blaming UE5
Anonymous No.718790271
>>718790142
This guy fucking gets it
Anonymous No.718790307 >>718790605 >>718790739 >>718797186
Holy Kek
>720p
Wtf they doing?
Anonymous No.718790336
>>718790115
That doesn't count shut up
Anonymous No.718790345
>>718790268
We blame the jeet-devs
Anonymous No.718790360 >>718790560
>>718785917 (OP)
>>718785992
>>718786292
>>718786494
Apologize and stop buying Konami slop.
Anonymous No.718790409
>>718786292
Man, you sure love that phrase
Did you just learn it?
Anonymous No.718790431
>>718786626
shhhhhheeeeeeeiiiiitt trippin!
Anonymous No.718790446 >>718802286
>>718788952
Because 1. It’s marketed as a full on remake even though it’s a strange pseudo sequel, it’s not good for someone who’s never played FF7 before even though a straight remake would be and 2. The changes are all negative, 3 games out of 1, extreme filler added, absolutely crap plot changes, it’s not like Resident Evil 1 where the remake changes are positive
Anonymous No.718790479
>>718789528
a hooker in make-up also looks better than your mom
Anonymous No.718790497 >>718791683 >>718794714
>>718785917 (OP)
>remake looks worse than the 8 year old pachinko game
literally what the fuck is konami smoking
Anonymous No.718790519 >>718792489
>>718787271
>wot? chiaroscuro?
>i don't know wot that means m8
>fancy some washed-out grass, Guvnah???????
I hate art-lets so much it's unreal
Anonymous No.718790553
There has never been and never will be a good looking UE5 game. It's all blurry shimmery dogshit from here on out fellas. Unique art style? Never heard of it.
Anonymous No.718790560
>>718790360
Death Stranding 2 bombed lol MGS3 Delta will sell more despite how bland that remake looks.
Anonymous No.718790561
>>718789607
>muhlennials
Lets see the credits
Anonymous No.718790605
>>718790307
wowie its just like 2011 all over again!
Anonymous No.718790618 >>718790778
>>718789996
See >>718789621 for starters
Snake also seems slightly like he's leaning back in top picture, showing more pride than bottom pic and more tear holding.
Anonymous No.718790628
>>718790213
The contrast isn't "all over the place" whatever that means. The top is the one where the contrast is thrown off because of the over exposure. Older games always whiffed contrast and color balance because nobody worked with a unified, PBR approach back then. Everything was just people eyeballing everything and it was often very difficult to get all aspects of a scene to work together.
Anonymous No.718790671 >>718792672 >>718793590
>>718790142
totally
and they did not try to make realistic forests that were limited by the graphics at the time
you talk like you can picture exactly what kojima had in mind
Anonymous No.718790675 >>718790770
>>718788751
>the stones are still white
You failed
Anonymous No.718790676
>>718786587
It does not
Anonymous No.718790739
>>718790307
Fucking lol
Anonymous No.718790753
Show me the credits
Anonymous No.718790770
>>718790675
>>>>>>basic bitch color filter
Anonymous No.718790778 >>718791515 >>718792138 >>718792905
>>718790618
His face wasn't in shadow to conceal he was crying, it was in shadow because the exposure crushed the lighting on his face.

Can anyone here who doesn't know basic photography kindly kill themselves? And don't give me shit about breaking photography rules for thematic reasons. Kojima loves film and knows goddamn good and well what good photography looks like. This was a limitation with the technology and methodology of the time, not some secret symbol that ties into the story.
Anonymous No.718790821
>no one mentioned the bottom Snake's bendy legs and unironed service uniform
Anonymous No.718790829 >>718804329
>>718789949
It's done on purpose to hide a microscopic scene that's supposed to take place in a largest military graveyard and shit textures
Anonymous No.718790909 >>718791194
>>718785917 (OP)
The facial animations are absolutely terrible in the remake. The bottom pic looks like those Big Boss memes from the time MGSV was out where some anon animated him making silly facial expressions, doing odd things, and looking at a computer. Not something you would expect to see from an official game with professional animators working on it.
The lighting in the bottom also completely misses the point of the lighting of the original, though that's probably not because they don't understand and instead because of the industry push for realistic lighting over all else including basic artistic sense. I always expected them to ruin the lighting and all prior footage already proved that fear. I'm more annoyed at the facial animation as there is no industry wide push that would prevent them from putting effort into at least that.
Anonymous No.718791194 >>718791296
>>718790909
Jesus I'd rather stay blinded by nostalgia than by technical elitism.
I don't even want to know the way you you look at girls.
Anonymous No.718791296
>>718791194
What point in my post are you attempting to address? Your reply seems rather nonsensical
Anonymous No.718791369
>>718785917 (OP)
I don't agree with getting rid of all the fog, there should be a hint of it, but I do think bottom looks fine. It reminds me of the scene in MGS4 just without hte piss filter.
Anonymous No.718791440
>>718785917 (OP)
>completely drains the mood and atmosphere from the scene
...Kino...thy name is..cucknami
Anonymous No.718791489
>>718787140
Newfags. It's always newfags.
Anonymous No.718791498
these reboots and remasters, including shit like the criterion collection, always ruin the lighting and aesthetic of the original document
and the normies gobble it up like nothing's wrong.
Anonymous No.718791515 >>718792138
>>718790778
This. Kojimadrones love to explain away all of his faults as some 200 IQ 4D chess move... suspiciously like Drumpfags.
Anonymous No.718791534 >>718792353
>>718786020
>Do you remake movies the way you remake games?
yes sadly
Anonymous No.718791594
>>718786534
That's kind of the point, Big Boss walks into a graveyard that's supposed to be for the thousands of soldiers who have died serving America's interests, nothing is special about the Boss' grave, it's lined up with what seems to be thousands of other graves that look just like it, and the only person who will ever salute hers is him.

By making it so fucking tiny it takes away the message that the Boss wasn't important and America eats soldiers like candy for basically no really good reason. Despite their quality.

>>718787140
Yeah you fucking retard it's almost like there is an artistic reason to use those that have existed in other media like Film for over 100 years and people shit on the lazy uses of it.
Anonymous No.718791629
>>718785917 (OP)
Why did old devs hate contrast so much?
Anonymous No.718791683
>>718790497
this actually made me gag, it looks so fucking bad
Anonymous No.718791814
>>718785917 (OP)
The bottom looks photoshopped, doesn't it?
Anonymous No.718791891
>>718786434
Don't talk about games you haven't played.
Anonymous No.718791916
>>718787271
that's what happens with heavy fog and the rising sun. you might see it happen if you're driving on a highway in the early morning.
Anonymous No.718792043
>>718785917 (OP)
is the bottom from GMod?
Anonymous No.718792053
>>718785917 (OP)
The one time where adding explosive bloom would help, they don't
Also stand up straight Snake, you look like you're holding your shit in
Anonymous No.718792128
Anonymous No.718792138
>>718791515
>>718790778
I am so glad I have something resembling a film background so I can read posts like these and realize why most people are genuinely brainlets when it comes to this stuff.

It's in shadow because they put the light source behind him. They do that to exemplify his silhouette and make him look shaded out and larger than he actually is.
>B-BUT ITS A LIMITATION
Oh so when Steven Spielberg does it, he did it because it was a technical limitation of film? Of course I'm going to give you shit about it, you clearly don't know dick about theming. Don't @ me.
Anonymous No.718792164
>>718786020
The main issue seem to be accessibility, remakes startes because the originals were just hard to even get ahold of. Most classic games are actually pretty hard to properly play.
Anonymous No.718792173
>>718787271
they synergize to form KINO
Anonymous No.718792210 >>718795806
>>718786020
>Do you remake movies the way you remake games?
Even if we ignore the Disney live action remakes slopfest, yes, it happens all the fucking time
Anonymous No.718792307
>>718789949
Soon we'll have nostalgia threads for chromatic aberration with reasoning like this
>it was done on purpose to convey a sense and it was soulful!
Anonymous No.718792314 >>718792391 >>718792842
APOLOGIZE
Anonymous No.718792315
>>718789078
American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Mike Tyson while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers.
Anonymous No.718792353 >>718792428
>>718791534
Those are different, they are essentially their own films. A better comparison is stuff like the 1998 version of Psycho, which is a 1:1 remake with the original, making it feel pointless.

>>718785917 (OP)
This is why art analysis is important, in videogames it seems as if better graphics = better game, it way too utilitarian.
Anonymous No.718792391
>>718792314
I never doubted him. He may stumble, he may fall, but he never stops or gives up.
Anonymous No.718792428
>>718792353
All of the remakes of 12 Angry Men have been pointless. None of them added or did anything better with the story than the original.
Anonymous No.718792474 >>718794831 >>718797092
>>718787173
Because they genuinely dont understand what Kojima was doing. Remember with this remakes its pretty much better graphics = better game.
Anonymous No.718792489 >>718800238 >>718800392 >>718801756
>>718790519
that's not chiaroscuro you retarded pseud
Anonymous No.718792493
>>718787364
Graves too
Anonymous No.718792553
>>718789996
Look man say what you want about Kojima, but the guy is a fucking autist about cinematics, no way would he do it like that.
Anonymous No.718792617
>>718789019
you can really tell the enshitening of modern media with how people react to this demake. I remember reading an old director saying the same shit about modern movies having nothing but clean shots and noone bother with "mood" and framing anymore.
Anonymous No.718792661
>>718787227
It really does look like SFM
Anonymous No.718792672 >>718793590
>>718790671
>you talk like you can picture exactly what kojima had in mind
i don't fucking care what kojima had in mind, only what he actually put out within those limitations
if his vision was "realism", then the only reason he ever made anything good was that the limitations forced it to be good and actually have artistic merit and atmosphere
if everything he wants to make comes out like this, he's objectively a shit creator and bad at his job
for someone who is such a cocksucker for filmography though, i'm pretty sure he actually understands this though
nor is kojima attached to this remake, konami owns the ip, kojima has zero to do with them anymore
Anonymous No.718792682
>>718786807
Fuck off shill
Anonymous No.718792842
>>718792314
i-i...i did rike it....
sage No.718792891 >>718796432
>>718789221
yeah, probably to hide the fact that the ground textures and skybox looked like shit
Anonymous No.718792905 >>718793121
>>718790778
It's a stupid claim anyway considering it cuts to him absolutely losing his shit even as he continues saluting
Anonymous No.718793121 >>718793785
>>718792905
>absolutely losing his shit
A single tear
Anonymous No.718793154 >>718793417
>>718785992
Why the first comment is almost always
>muh controversial
Are you a bot? Or a zoomee brocoloid perhaps?
Anonymous No.718793351 >>718793475 >>718793606
>>718788861
>Get cucked to death by your country's draft
>Only recognition is a mass-produced, nondescript thin white stone
>Meanwhile Stacy is fucking Chad who got an exemption manufactured by his rich parents and a doctor
Anonymous No.718793417
>>718793154
How fucking new are you that you don't understand a fundamental concept of 4chan threads?
Anonymous No.718793475
>>718793351
The world sure isn't fair.
Anonymous No.718793590 >>718795660
>>718790671
>>718792672
The idea that Kojima always strives for naturalistic lighting in his current games is ridiculous.
Anonymous No.718793592
>>718785917 (OP)
It's fucking depressing how bad lighting in new games are, Where the fuck is the emotion, I feel nothing looking at the bottom one
Anonymous No.718793606 >>718793716
>>718793351
>immediately bring cuckoldry into the thread
Anonymous No.718793716 >>718793850
>>718793606
MGS3 is a game fundamentally about the spiritual cuckoldry of patriotism and a life dedicated to service.
The Boss literally got a c-section on the battlefield and the government made her child a triple agent faggot for them.
Anonymous No.718793758
>>718785917 (OP)
>PS3 era
LMAAAAO BROWN AND BLOOM
>Today
wtf where is my brown and bloom? Soulless.
Anonymous No.718793785 >>718794337
>>718793121
For a guy who stoically shrugs off all the shit that happens to him in the game watching him struggle to keep the salute is him losing his shit, that's the whole point of the scene
Anonymous No.718793850
>>718793716
>MGS3 is a game fundamentally about spiritual cuckoldry
Beautiful, kojimafags never fail to entertain
Anonymous No.718793927
>>718787364
Brighter
Anonymous No.718793941 >>718794104 >>718794449 >>718794580 >>718794592 >>718794682
I edited the remake to make it soulful for you retards.
Anonymous No.718793949
>>718786096
Looks like standard out of the box UE5 shading and lighting with default materials (whatever those might be).
I hate UE5 so much, it has killed any innovation from this industry, technical or artistical.
Anonymous No.718794006 >>718794684
>>718787173
It's cute that you think anyone remaking the game knows about MSG4
Anonymous No.718794104
>>718793941
The gravestones are still too bright you fucking idiot
Anonymous No.718794112
top aged like milk holy shit
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.718794129
>>718787140
>remember the constant memes and people shitting on BLOOM AND GODRAYS now faggots call it "soul" and make up pretentious nonsense like
we still make threads about the piss filters
they just get pushed down to page 10 due to the constant shilling, eceleb bullshit, trolling and screencap threads
Anonymous No.718794160
>>718790142
Incredibly based and righteous rantpilled
Anonymous No.718794195 >>718794276 >>718794846 >>718797027 >>718798784
Anonymous No.718794276
>>718794195
My thought too
Anonymous No.718794303
KOJIMA BROWN AND BLOOM GOOD
OTHER GAMES BAD
Anonymous No.718794319 >>718800670
Anonymous No.718794337 >>718794546
>>718793785
He's not struggling to keep the salute, what are you talking about?
Anonymous No.718794343 >>718794630
>>718785917 (OP)
You all will buy it despite anything you say. Cope.
Anonymous No.718794354
>>718786096
Didn't you see the GTA remakes where a nut got turned into a circle because jeets didn't know what it was?
Anonymous No.718794436 >>718794560
Anonymous No.718794449
>>718793941
Finally, good graphics.
Anonymous No.718794456 >>718795690
Doesn't the game have filter options so you could go for the more "realistic" option, or have the original look?
I remember a trailer or dev interview showing off the options.
Anonymous No.718794546
>>718794337
He watched too many 24 hour long video essays about how Big Boss is the most tragic character ever in which the youtuber goes in depth listing all of Big Boss's mental illnesses which coincidentally all happen to be the same ones the youtuber has (something he reminds you of as he tells you a childhood story about himself which he relates to something that happened in game)
Anonymous No.718794560
>>718794436
unf...
maybe the demake isn't too bad...
Anonymous No.718794565
>>718785917 (OP)
there is no such thing as a good remaster
Anonymous No.718794580
>>718793941
SOUL OVERLOAD
Anonymous No.718794592
>>718793941
s-sovlful
Anonymous No.718794604 >>718794751
>>718785917 (OP)
Will they remaster this masterpiece by shitkawa?
Anonymous No.718794630 >>718800887
>>718794343
M8 I haven't bought a game in over 2 years and I'm a consoomer by /v/ standards
Anonymous No.718794646 >>718794706 >>718794860 >>718794903 >>718803783 >>718804845 >>718805158
Anonymous No.718794651 >>718798393
>>718790142
>Types a very well formed objective argument.
>Proceeds to shit on all that just defend a piss filter because It evokes a feeling in him.
Holy mother of non-sequiturs.
Could you be more subjective?
Anonymous No.718794682
>>718793941
just as kojimbo intended...
Anonymous No.718794684
>>718794006
Or MGS in general
Anonymous No.718794702 >>718801250
>>718789495
fr tho all these years later I really want to fuck that cat
Anonymous No.718794706
>>718794646
Eva looks like a mail order whore, which i guess isn't too far off
Anonymous No.718794714
>>718790497
>game
video
Anonymous No.718794734
>2016
man look at those pachinko graphics... wonder if we will ever get the chance to play an mgs like that
>2025
new bad soulless [insert buzzword here]
Anonymous No.718794751
>>718794604
fucking lmao
Anonymous No.718794753
>>718788751
Doesn't work. MGS3 pic looks like it's made in heaven. Your MGS3R pic looks like it's made on cloudy day and Snake has a shit posture for some reason
Anonymous No.718794831 >>718794907 >>718797468 >>718797528
>>718792474
>Because they genuinely dont understand what Kojima was doing.
The actual director for the cutscenes still works at Konami. Stop attributing everything to Kojima the game was made by a 200 people team.
Anonymous No.718794841 >>718805027
>>718785917 (OP)
Looks worse. Regardless I expect it to be enjoyable just like RE4R. They can't replace the originals, regardless of if it's their intent.
Anonymous No.718794842 >>718795007 >>718795237 >>718795794
>>718790202
>they also get re-released with no graphical upgrades whatsoever
If only. Theyt are rereleased with some butt ugly colour """"correction""" raping all contrast and making everything blue or sometimes green.
Anonymous No.718794846
>>718794195
You're pretty good
Anonymous No.718794860 >>718795010
>>718794646
thats a man isnt it
Anonymous No.718794875 >>718794981 >>718795092 >>718801943
Anonymous No.718794903
>>718794646
sexy eva? got my sale
Anonymous No.718794907 >>718797310
>>718794831
No, it was just Kojima. He worked tirelessly on every game from programming to motion capture
Anonymous No.718794981
>>718794875
Anonymous No.718795007 >>718795052 >>718795347
>>718794842
BD/DVD looks the best. Don't care if it's not the original. Green just fits Matrix perfectly, it's why the marketing material focused so much on it.
Anonymous No.718795010
>>718794860
Snake has always been a man, anon. The remake didn't change that
Anonymous No.718795024
>>718786243
it looks like gmod
Anonymous No.718795040 >>718795101 >>718795102 >>718796845 >>718802005
Anonymous No.718795052 >>718795347
>>718795007
You've been groomed and raped by jews
Anonymous No.718795092 >>718795204
>>718794875
oh that wrist
Anonymous No.718795101
>>718795040
Look at this gigachad.
Anonymous No.718795102
>>718795040
That looks horrid.
Anonymous No.718795161
>>718788751
goddamn that is better
Anonymous No.718795204
>>718795092
Huh, this reminded me how terrible shoulders looked in Twin Snakes. Should pay attention to them in delta
Anonymous No.718795237 >>718795347 >>718795348
>>718794842
NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE GREEN FILTER IS DEEP AND MEANINGFUL, THE DIRECTORA ARE CLEARLY MAKING A STATEMENT ABOU-
W-WHAT? IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY THERE AND WAS JUST THE RESULT OF SOME JERKOFF FUCKING UP THE DVD RELEASE?
U-UHHH... SHUT UP!
Anonymous No.718795347 >>718795423
>>718795007
>>718795052
>>718795237
The greening strangely coincide with the moment the Wachowsky brothers-sisters started doing ketamine while being whipped and sodomized by a dominatrix.
Anonymous No.718795348
>>718795237
matrix has all those green colour writing it makes sense that it has a green filter
Anonymous No.718795372
>kojimbo makes a game with gameplay mechanics we've seen 10 years ago
>AN INNOVATOR OF HIS TIME 10/10 REVOLUTIONARY
>games mid as fuck carried by the dev team trying to make his slop at least entertaining to play
>GET THIS, THE GUYS NAME IS FAT GUY, AND HE'S.... A FAT GUY
>SUUGOIIIII
Its all so tiresome.
Anonymous No.718795423
>>718795347
>dominatrix
domi... matrix?
Anonymous No.718795443
>>718785917 (OP)
>Tfw you old enough to remember...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR2LAIYtAm0
Anonymous No.718795564
>>718787505
Neither do they in the original if you look closely.
Anonymous No.718795660 >>718798894 >>718801779
>>718793590
This sort of answered my question but I’d still like to ask it: for people who have played the Death Stranding games, would you say Kojima is still doing mood lighting like people are maintaining he did in the OP? As in, even when he has far less technical limitations like he did during the MGS3 development, Kojima is still making interesting and good lighting choices in his cutscenes.
Anonymous No.718795690
>>718794456
Found it. They talk about it around 7 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXoV47YGV70&t=428
Anonymous No.718795747 >>718796482 >>718799635 >>718800375
Anonymous No.718795794
>>718794842
>ripped off kojima's mgs1 color filters
Creatividad disrespected once again...
Anonymous No.718795803 >>718798475
>>718785917 (OP)
Hire me Konami.
Anonymous No.718795806
>>718792210
Shit remake, worse than the original. Waste of time
Anonymous No.718795819 >>718795871 >>718796070 >>718799450
This is the reason you're seeing so much seethe here on /v/intendo.
Anonymous No.718795871
>>718795819
kojimadrones and tendies... a weapon to surpass metal gear
Anonymous No.718796070
>>718795819
>insane /v/ hate campaign for a basic remake
>still reviews better than one of the only two switch 2 exclusives
brutal
Anonymous No.718796246 >>718796401 >>718796552 >>718797227 >>718800730
mr konami ceo san! are you watching?
Anonymous No.718796295
>>718786096
No, but also it's an industry problem related to the mass adoption of photorealism. Photorealism looks nice in a vacuum, but it is an utterly terrible medium for making art. The sparkling shiny whole consumes nuance and leaves nothing.
Anonymous No.718796401
>>718796246
I'M JOOSTING
Anonymous No.718796404
>>718786096
more realism = less art direction
the industry has been hauling ass in the realism direction and these retards don't turn on a dime unless someone is in charge
nobody is in charge with remakes, only money-grubbing committees and bureaucrats
Anonymous No.718796432
>>718792891
They did a great job of that and created a great, beautiful image that still looks better than shit coming out today.
Anonymous No.718796482
>>718795747
My favorite medic looking as beautiful as ever
Anonymous No.718796552 >>718804410
>>718796246
Does she have a family? I hope she's happy in life. She's a sweet person and Kojima should have found something for her in DS
Anonymous No.718796628
Why are you defending this shit? Why do you care about graphics?
Anonymous No.718796739 >>718801250
>>718789495
Fuck that cat is hot
Anonymous No.718796745 >>718798374
>>718786807
If MGS3 is bad why do you want to pay $80 for the same game with modern graphics?
Anonymous No.718796810 >>718796959 >>718799932 >>718800452 >>718805768 >>718806015 >>718806894 >>718807929
The shilling in this thread is unreal, and the same shit happened with the SH2 demake. Does Konami have dedicated shills on this shithole?
Anonymous No.718796845
>>718795040
Kuchisake-onna lookin' ahh...
Anonymous No.718796959
>>718796810
its just your usual contrarian faggots nothing special
Anonymous No.718796971
>>718786096
Sad part is Art Direction and Stylization has died in favor of the most easy cookie cutter graphics possible for REALISM and PHOTOREALISM due to normals absolutely loving it. Namely UE5. There used to be a time when not everything was a Netflix Menu and the UI of a Phone Icon for "Minimalism" and looked cheaply made.
Anonymous No.718796983
>people complained about generic looking ps3 and 360 games for being gray and brown and overusing bloom
>this means Metal Gear Solid 3 (a ps2 game) was garbage actually and we need a remake
You fucking kikes aren't even trying.
Anonymous No.718797027 >>718797217
>>718794195
This got me
Anonymous No.718797038 >>718806352
>>718789761
>>718786876
You guys never played his games and know what you are talking about.
Anonymous No.718797092
>>718792474
Kojima has vision, the team has to bring his VISION to life. They are useless without him looking at the images.
Anonymous No.718797105
>>718785917 (OP)
looks like a gmod picture ngl
Anonymous No.718797186
>>718790307
please understand sir PS5 not enough for PS2 game remake sir we do the needful and lower resolution
Anonymous No.718797217
>>718797027
stop replying to yourself faggot
Anonymous No.718797227
>>718796246
Why does she look prettier irl than Quiet in-game? Isn't it usually the other way around?
Anonymous No.718797231
>>718785917 (OP)
forced soul vs. organic kino
Anonymous No.718797310
>>718794907
He even did the mocap for Quiet, truly dedicated to his craft.
Anonymous No.718797379 >>718803447
>>718785917 (OP)
I pity the people buying it, for they have no taste and will forever eat shit and dirt like pigs do, but I also pity the people making it, for they humiliate themselves by showcasing heir lack of talent to the whole world for a relatively meager sum of money. The whole thing is extremely depressing in many ways.
Anonymous No.718797409
You cant tell me AI will not be able to replace these retards, just look at the fucking terrible job they are doing.
Anonymous No.718797468
>>718794831
erm, you're not allowed to contradict my schizo narrative with facts dude
Anonymous No.718797525
>>718787436
I think so. People on this site don't make any fucking sense.
Anonymous No.718797528
>>718794831
Clearly the hack lost his touch which is why Kojima didn't take him with him.
Martin_Banos !!vK069ykpMeh No.718797571 >>718798003
>>718785917 (OP)
Top is bad because no real place looks like that
Bottom is also bad because it looks like Super Mario RTX.

Life sucks and then you die.
Anonymous No.718797646
>>718786243
nailed it /thread
Anonymous No.718797730
>>718786020
>Do you remake movies the way you remake games?
>yeah that's right.

Do you live under a rock?
Anonymous No.718797762
>>718786243
just add the default rpg maker text box and its perfect
Anonymous No.718797882
>>718786020
have your (You) and kill yourself
Anonymous No.718798003
>>718797571
>no real place looks like that
I'm sorry you have to live underground but up on the surface, we have light.
Anonymous No.718798067
>>718786243
Holy shit you’re right. This legit looks like a weg
Anonymous No.718798374 >>718798437
>>718796745
he never said it was bad.
Anonymous No.718798393 >>718798610
>>718794651
Nitpicking autists with no emotion that rely on β€œobjectivity” is the reason mediums and fandoms have gone to shit.
Anonymous No.718798437 >>718799102
>>718798374
No, you just implied it, you slimy kike faggot.
Anonymous No.718798475
>>718795803
nice
Anonymous No.718798549
>>718790142
This kills the autistic shill retards.
Anonymous No.718798589
>>718786096
too many poos and disgenic hires as actual masters retire(stop caring) or die
Anonymous No.718798610 >>718799156
>>718798393
if you agree that you're being subjective, doesn't your "this one is more artistic and evocative" spergout fall apart?
Anonymous No.718798731
>>718785917 (OP)
Bottom looks worse than a WEG I'm making, which poo studio was this outsourced to?
Anonymous No.718798784
>>718794195
my first fuckin thought, perfect
Anonymous No.718798823
>>718789918
botw and odyssey came out
Anonymous No.718798890
>>718786807
PS2 era bloom was kino. When it transitioned to the next gen is when it became soulless because devs were retarded and overrelied on the new fangled dynamic lighting bs that was extremely primitive at the time to light scenes.
Anonymous No.718798894
>>718795660
Shinkawa is the reason these games all look so good and he still knows what he's doing. Kojima just lets him do his thing, as you should when you have a talented art director.
Anonymous No.718799060
>>718790142
valid crashout
Anonymous No.718799102
>>718798437
No, he actually didn't you fucking sperg.

He only implied the new game looks better, he never said anything to imply the original game is bad, you autistic mutt.
Anonymous No.718799156
>>718798610
You can’t argue objectively when it comes to art. You’re both equally arguing nothing. What we can quantify is that the quality of media, specifically in vidya, has dropped because these dev companies can just do a lazy port job through an engine that focuses primarily on hyperrealism, which has become a protective shield to deflect any type of criticism when scenes or levels in a game aren’t representative of the creators original vision and are missing creative decisions that were purposely made for that scene, which has become a lazy way to sell you something you loved before, but completely different looking.
Anonymous No.718799157 >>718804831
>>718786807
I will give you your props for calling out most of this board on the anti soul gas thing instead of being a try hard and spouting a buzzword or insulting you.
Anonymous No.718799220
>>718790142
Metal gear soild was ALWAYS a series that strived to be photorealistic.
Anonymous No.718799221
>>718790115
actual boomers aren't human
Anonymous No.718799286
>>718785917 (OP)
How does It look with "Legacy" filter on?
Anonymous No.718799390
>>718788861
>washington-dc-attractions-arlington-cemetery
>attractions
>cemetery
trump's really using dead soldiers to entertain tourists?

Makes you wonder how the Boss would deal with someone like him too.
Anonymous No.718799450
>>718795819
thought it had more to do with the wide faces on the white haired dude.
Anonymous No.718799469
>>718786096
>racism outside of /b/
Anonymous No.718799501
>>718786096
>just use ue5 bro
Anonymous No.718799565
I don't know what to feel about this remake. They sure are putting in the effort for it to look good, but then again the PS2 game still looks amazing (if you're not a retarded faggot).
Anonymous No.718799635
>>718795747
What does remake LBJ look like?
Anonymous No.718799667 >>718799849 >>718799890
are there any remakes or remasters that update the graphics without butchering the artstyle?
Anonymous No.718799776
I genuinely keep forgetting this game exists whenever I'm not looking directly at it. The most nothing video game of all time. You could tell me those pachinko machine cutscenes were from it and I'd believe you.
Anonymous No.718799849
>>718799667
Command & Conquer
Anonymous No.718799882
>>718785917 (OP)
Artistic vision... gone
Anonymous No.718799890 >>718807997
>>718799667
Oblivion
Anonymous No.718799910
>>718785917 (OP)
Looks like a WEG screenshot.
Anonymous No.718799932
>>718796810
Unironically, shilling agencies are super common here whenever a big-name game is announced/close to release. The Battlefield threads are the most obvious and current example, but anything Capcom is also usually shilled to high hell by thirdwolders and the like.
Anonymous No.718799934
>>718785917 (OP)
Is that gmod on the bottom
Anonymous No.718800005
>>718789146
>military graves are white
>but we changed them to black (which is historically inaccurate) because the contrast between black and white looks good
Yet you bitch about BLACKED porn, interesting...
Anonymous No.718800068 >>718800160
>>718785917 (OP)
top
>can't see anything
bottom
>can see everything

bottom wins
Anonymous No.718800160
>>718800068
you're not supposed to see, chud!
Anonymous No.718800193
>>718786020
people just dont get the meaning of imagery right
>evil man drinks milk to represent that he is on his natural state of mind, un-altered
>retard watches movie, then gets into movie production
>DRINKING MILK IS EVIL
this kind of stuff happens all the time.
Anonymous No.718800238 >>718800419
>>718792489
wrong, fag
Anonymous No.718800375
>>718795747
She looks like Elijah Wood now
Anonymous No.718800392 >>718800621
>>718792489
alright mr art nigger then whats considered chiaroscuro? is this painting chiaroscuro?
Anonymous No.718800419 >>718800580
>>718800238
I don't think the dark parts are dark enough for people to call it chiaroscuro; it's washed out harsh lighting
Anonymous No.718800452
>>718796810
I don't know if it's that or collective alzheimers or what, but there is an absurd amount of praise and defense for a company that spent years ruining everything before almost completely falling off the gaming grid.
Anonymous No.718800557
>>718790115
chat is this true?
Anonymous No.718800580 >>718800720
>>718800419
Take it up with the art community then, it's pretty broad as a term.
Anonymous No.718800621 >>718801112
>>718800392
does OP look like this painting you fucking baka?
Anonymous No.718800670
>>718794319
>original game made by yellows
>not making the right one poo brown
Anonymous No.718800720 >>718800797
>>718800580
notice how the background is completely black, serving to contrast the pale skin
Anonymous No.718800730
>>718796246
I want to slap her tight little Dutch ass :3
Anonymous No.718800797
>>718800720
Notice how I left the description in, as the chiaroscuro at question is the shadow being used to suggest form on the woman's shoulder and boob.
Anonymous No.718800887
>>718794630
>/v/ boasts about not playing any games
>/v/ boasts about not buying games ever
>/v/ boasts about pirating all games
>/v/ complains about games not being made for them
huh
Anonymous No.718801112
>>718800621
theres contrast between the focal points in the photo thats the essential part of chiaroscuro. you can mess with lighting to make it bright but if there is clear contrast between the subjects and lighting that is what makes it so. this is a chiaroscuro drawing despite it not having a very bold contrast
Anonymous No.718801250
>>718794702
>>718796739
It's a fucking cartoon CAT
Anonymous No.718801753 >>718801823 >>718801903 >>718801940 >>718802128 >>718802447 >>718802674 >>718802713 >>718802831 >>718803136 >>718803197 >>718803306 >>718804253 >>718805867 >>718806015 >>718806312 >>718806684
>>718785917 (OP)
It's not this bloomy in original PS2. But Delta one Is weird. I wonder, how this looks with Legacy filter.
Anonymous No.718801756
>>718792489
>In art, chiaroscuro is the use of strong contrasts between light and dark, usually bold contrasts affecting a whole composition.
Anonymous No.718801779
>>718795660
The Death Stranding games, being sci-fi, allow for a wider array of interesting weather effects which obviously set the mood well.
Anonymous No.718801823 >>718802107 >>718809484
>>718801753
>this whole thread was arguing over a wrong image to begin with
Anonymous No.718801831
>>718785917 (OP)
Looks great on my hdr oled
Anonymous No.718801903
>>718801753
>Bluepoint does a shitty remaster
>this shitty remaster fucks up the later remake of the game
Classic.
Anonymous No.718801940 >>718802056 >>718802405
>>718801753
You mean to tell me"it's blindingly white because it's meant to look heavenly" cope was just bullshit?
Anonymous No.718801943
>>718794875
Why does she look like a guy.
Anonymous No.718802005
>>718795040
Why the long face?
Anonymous No.718802039
>>718785917 (OP)
I love how this thread is an implicit admission that the Master Collection version of MGS3 is good lmao
Anonymous No.718802056
>>718801940
No.
Anonymous No.718802067
>Konami remake slop looks like shit and runs like shit
>meanwhile Death Stranding 2 looks amazing, runs at 60 FPS, and will win GOTY
Yeah I'm thinking Kojima still won.
Anonymous No.718802107
>>718801823
Yeah, looks like an another HD Collection messup, which was not fixed In Master Collection unlike one of The End cutscenes with excessive bloom from the sun. At least on PS5.
Anonymous No.718802128 >>718802238 >>718804460
>>718801753
lmao this is like that experiment where they showed children's scribbles to art critics and the were tripping over themselves explaining the deep meaning and compositions hidden in them
You niggers were defending the deep artistic merit of a fucking BOTCHED BLUEPOINT PS3 PORT
Anonymous No.718802134 >>718802414
>>718788861
The artists decide the world they make
Anonymous No.718802217
It's funny how Konami tried to launch the remake the same year as Death Stranding 2 to humiliate Kojima and still lost.
Anonymous No.718802238 >>718806789
>>718802128
>where they showed children's scribbles to art critics
(having told them they were pieces from a renowed artist)
forgot to include that part
Anonymous No.718802286
>>718785917 (OP)
I hate post gen 7 shit like this so much
Same scene, totally different feel just because specfags gotta have muh heckin ReALisTiC LiGhTiNg
Also this >>718790446
Fuck Square, I hope they get bought out and dissolved like any given developer bought by Microsoft
Anonymous No.718802394
>>718786096
Kojima
Anonymous No.718802405 >>718802673
>>718801940
It's still clearly meant to evoke an heavenly feel?
The bloom is less prominent in the PS2 version, but it's still there compared to Delta which has nothing.
Anonymous No.718802414
>>718802134
chuddy, artists need to be regulated so the world they make isnt problematic
Anonymous No.718802447
>>718801753
Bluepoint Heaven shot is superior
Anonymous No.718802495
>>718785917 (OP)
Wasn't the over bloom an HD collection bug?
Anonymous No.718802673 >>718802912 >>718802931
>>718802405
But the remake's lighting looks much, much closer to the original than the port?
You got humiliated anon, just quit while you still mantain a shred of dignity
Anonymous No.718802674 >>718803480 >>718803838
>>718801753
Literally looks better in OP's image, even if by accident. That version looks dull and unfocused by comparison, it doesn't convey strong emotion at all, whereas strong contrast with good composition always looks striking.
It is pretty funny it was a mistake though
Anonymous No.718802713
>>718801753
>thread goes deathly silent the second anon posts this
You can't make this shit up
Anonymous No.718802831
>>718801753
man they really need more green in the remake
Anonymous No.718802912 >>718803370 >>718803592 >>718803709 >>718803798
>>718802673
It literally does not, at all.
The background of the original is white light.
The background of the remake is a rock.
It's not even comparable.
Anonymous No.718802931
>>718802673
NTA if you can't see how much more work and attention went into the lighting on the OG compared to the remake you are blind. Just look at the ground, how they specifically placed a dark patch around the subject of the shot, etc
And that was at a time where dynamic real time lighting was NOT taken for granted like today
So no the remake is not more faithful, HD version bug or not
Anonymous No.718802969
>>718785917 (OP)
>two graves behind Snake are thin and rectangular
Did they just... forget about those? Or what
Anonymous No.718802982
>>718788861
>dead zogbot storage
Anonymous No.718803017 >>718803159 >>718803227
Bet they'll ruin this HEAVENLY GODLIKE shot of The End as well.
Anonymous No.718803107
>>718785917 (OP)
Soul vs Soulless
Anonymous No.718803136
>>718801753
>incredibly volatile active shitflinging thread of screaming chimps
>over the shitty ports jacked bloom setting
Fucking embarrassing.
Remake still looks bad
Anonymous No.718803148
>>718787140
fuck off, bloom and godrays on gameplay areas sucked, but on ps2 cutscenes, it was KINO
Anonymous No.718803159 >>718803204 >>718803264
>>718803017
Anonymous No.718803197 >>718804306
>>718801753
your image is really green for some reason
Anonymous No.718803204
>>718803159
THE BASTARDS.
Anonymous No.718803227
>>718803017
why is he portuguese
Anonymous No.718803264 >>718803304
>>718803159
This is an edit, right?
Anonymous No.718803304
>>718803264
The cutscenes are on youtube.
Anonymous No.718803306 >>718803370 >>718803720
>>718801753
>kojimadrones were defending the messed up port
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I AM NEVER LETTING YOU NIGGERS LIVE THIS DOWN HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous No.718803370 >>718803480
>>718803306
see >>718802912
Anonymous No.718803391 >>718803424
>>718790004
Americans have made almost everything you consume, freak.
Anonymous No.718803424
>>718803391
israelis*
Anonymous No.718803447
>>718797379
Calm down Kojimbo
Anonymous No.718803480 >>718803720
>>718803370
see >>718802674
Anonymous No.718803592
>>718802912
God it really does look like gmod, it’s Big Boss for the most part, his model looks so off, like one of those gmod model ports thats way more high res than anything else in the image
Anonymous No.718803678
>>718785917 (OP)
Nudevs will never be artists.
Anonymous No.718803709 >>718803841 >>718806096 >>718806471
>>718802912
What I really wanna know is how the transparency on the god rays gets worse with each iteration of this scene.
They're practically PNG overlays in Delta.
Anonymous No.718803720
>>718803306
>>718803480
I never even played a single MGS game, I just hate remakes, and by the way every single screenshot of the original whether it is the bugged OP image or normal contrast one is obviously made with more care than the Demake version.
Every single one of the kojimadrones was right.
Anonymous No.718803783 >>718804219
>>718794646
>where did you get those cuts
>the cuts are visible in the first scene they've met
Anonymous No.718803798 >>718803963
>>718802912
>white light = soul
>rocks = soulless
I'm taking notes.
Anonymous No.718803838 >>718804139
>>718802674
>the bluepoint visionary truly understood what this scene needed
it's okay to admit you overreacted
Anonymous No.718803841
>>718803709
Without the E M O T I O N E N G I N E, god rays and emotion are impossible.
Anonymous No.718803850
>>718786096
sirs we don't get paid for art directions sirs we make AI make remaster for you sirs fast and cheap sirs good money, much love from India sirs
Anonymous No.718803871 >>718803920 >>718803928 >>718804008
>>718785917 (OP)
I'm genuinely so fucking tired of game devs not understanding art style. A remake DOES NOT FUCKING MEAN changing the entire art style, the mood, the atmosphere, the entire color tone etc.

Stop fucking conflating Remaster = PRETTY GRAPHICS you fucking retarded game devs. This has been an issue for decades at this point and nobody still fucking gets it.
Anonymous No.718803920
>>718803871
bottom reminds me of fable 1 lol
Anonymous No.718803928
>>718803871
A remaster should be higher resolution, higher framerates, support for widescreen and nothing more.
Anonymous No.718803963 >>718804141
>>718803798
It can be orange if you're feeling daring.
Anonymous No.718803990
>>718785917 (OP)
Soul


Soulless
Anonymous No.718804008
>>718803871
>top
>artificial alien world
>bottom
>Pacific Northwest, Earth
Anonymous No.718804139 >>718804213
>>718803838
Who are you quoting?
Anonymous No.718804141 >>718804239 >>718804248 >>718804252 >>718804285
>>718803963
what does the orange symbolize?
Anonymous No.718804157 >>718804378
>>718786096
>does no one understand art direction!
>90% was defending the fucked bloom bluepoint remake everyone shat on and didn't even know
Fuck man when did the internet get so full of pseudos
Anonymous No.718804213 >>718804506
>>718804139
you dumbass your take is shit and screams of nonsense bullshit
Anonymous No.718804219
>>718803783
pajeets can't do anything right
Anonymous No.718804239 >>718804308
>>718804141
Glowing orange object in the sky, to the east
Anonymous No.718804248
>>718804141
that you're glad i didnt say banana
Anonymous No.718804252
>>718804141
hes standing in a graveyard of scurvy victims and only he surivved because he drank orange juice
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.718804253
>>718801753
lmao
Anonymous No.718804285
>>718804141
muh 60s sepia tone, bravo kojima
Anonymous No.718804306
>>718803197
It's from Snake Eater PS2 longplays, probably an analog => digital converting stuff. It's messed up on PC with fix too.
Anonymous No.718804308
>>718804239
Raiden, something happened to me last Thursday when I was driving home. I had a couple of miles to go - I looked up and saw a glowing orange object in the sky, to the east! It was moving very irregularly. Suddenly there was intense light all around me, and when I came to, I was home. What do you think happened to me?
Anonymous No.718804329
>>718790829
the PS2 would have no issue displaying that though, clearly the lighting was intended
Anonymous No.718804330
oof
Anonymous No.718804343
Is Way To Fall still in the credits
Anonymous No.718804378
>>718804157
erm that was a hd port not a remake
Anonymous No.718804395 >>718804558 >>718804574
>>718785992
i gotta agree honestly
it was supposed to end with 2 which was a god tier game in all regards but konami wanted that mgs money and the low iq fans wanted muh snake and muh action
Anonymous No.718804410 >>718804645
>>718796552
>Does she have a family?
No, she is autistic and lives with her mom.
Anonymous No.718804451
>>718785917 (OP)
kek, idiots buying this shitty demake. Kojigod warned you about it.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.718804460
>>718802128
>that experiment where they showed children's scribbles to art critics and the were tripping over themselves explaining the deep meaning and compositions hidden in them
there was another "experiment" but this time with a monkey. they ended up coping that the monkey was a totally real artist
Anonymous No.718804506 >>718804589
>>718804213
I am an artist, I know the basics of why the OG shot is better, and I can try to put it to words. What other explanation would you like? Do you think the remake actually looks better? Are you also an artist and would like to explain why my explanation is wrong?
I think you're just edgy and think that anytime someone explains why art looks good = "snobby" or "pseud". No, there are specific canons and fundamentals that explain how and why good art works
I also literally never said or implied what you quoted, faggot.
Anonymous No.718804558 >>718804723
>>718804395
Raiden was created specifically to appeal to fujoshi, so to hate Snake and think Raiden is good is to basically be a japanese femcel. That's why Kojimbo made Raiden into Volgan's gay lover in MGS3.
Anonymous No.718804574 >>718804723
>>718804395
>but konami wanted that mgs money
Holy mother of cope.
Anonymous No.718804589 >>718804620 >>718804725
>>718804506
>I am an artist
Stopped reading there, there are many "artists" out there
Anonymous No.718804620 >>718804721
>>718804589
And are you one of them?
Anonymous No.718804645
>>718804410
She lives in Japan retardo
She takes microdick every night.
Anonymous No.718804721
>>718804620
nope, it's how I avoided making an ass of myself by defending bluepoint's fuck up as "better than the original"
Anonymous No.718804723 >>718804974 >>718806135
>>718804558
nah he did that because the autistic low iq fans were sad it wasnt manly snake in mgs2 but instead a commentary on gamers
>>718804574
have you ever played mgs2? it was clearly meant to end there
Anonymous No.718804725 >>718804838
>>718804589
>there are many people that do a thing, I will not listen to their take despite the fact I have zero experience in the thing, I am right and they are wrong because reasons
Explain to me why anyone should care about your whining if you have zero idea about what's being discussed?
Anonymous No.718804738 >>718804827
Do these niggas not have memories of walking outside in the summer heat? Damn the remake... That looks like shit.
Anonymous No.718804812 >>718805128
>>718786020
>movies don't get remade like video games.
???
What hole did you crawl out of. Movies get remade all the time. We even got American remakes to foreign films. Then we got the endless iterations of the same book. We have hit peak with that with War of the Worlds featuring Ice Cube and his adventures with an Amazon employee. Movie theaters are suffering because we lack original content to get people to go to the theaters. Just endless sequels, remakes and brands to prop it up.
Anonymous No.718804827
>>718804738
Zoomers were not allowed outside in their childhoods because it would mean their parents would face arrest.
Zoomers are now devs and their only frame of reference in life is the Internet and Social Media.
Anonymous No.718804831
>>718799157
>>718786807
you don't know what anti-soul gas is, tourist
Anonymous No.718804838 >>718804982
>>718804725
>errm I'm an artist, my opinion is objective on this.
Has as much value as you "artists"
Anonymous No.718804845
>>718794646
Anonymous No.718804920 >>718805067
>>718785917 (OP)
what's the problem?
Anonymous No.718804974 >>718805057 >>718805123
>>718804723
For MGS2, Kojima focus tested fujoshi and found out that they didn't like playing as old men. And if you say you like MGS2 when you start MGS3, you get the mask of Volgan's gay lover. It's based and mocking you.
Anonymous No.718804982 >>718805152
>>718804838
You don't need to airquote that kid, I actually draw so I am factually an artist and have been at it for years.
Anyway sorry your eyes don't work right or whatever you are butthurt about now. OP's shot still is the best version though.
Anonymous No.718805027
>>718794841
Not really comparable because RE4 remake changed a lot of shit so it's at least a new experience
Anonymous No.718805045
>suddenly we like bloom
lmao
Anonymous No.718805057 >>718806608
>>718804974
Anonymous No.718805058
>>718786096
Everyone pissed their pants crying about brown and bloom, any filters, any postprocessing back in the day that game companies abandoned trying to use these to create atmosphere so all the babies can have their muh simulation graphics so they can feel like they're REALLY THERE and escape reality
Anonymous No.718805067
>>718804920
You would need to have a soul to understand
Anonymous No.718805123 >>718805236 >>718805359
>>718804974
mgs3 fucking sucks though
the story is retarded compared to 2
the survival mechanics are just annoying
rambo mode is much easier than stealth
the boss fights are the worst in the series (insta reloading the rpg on the mech fight by reequipping it is the worst but they are all bad)
Anonymous No.718805128
>>718804812
>War of the Worlds featuring Ice Cube and his adventures with an Amazon employee
to be fair War of the Worlds was always "commie bullshit: the book" so it really just came full circle
Anonymous No.718805152
>>718804982
you draw, damn Picasso I wasn't aware. You're right, it's better that it looks like snake is about to get consumed by a nuclear blast that happened in the back and that's an objective fact from the "artist"
Anonymous No.718805158 >>718809423
>>718794646
It would be hilarious if you check her medical records on the escort level and the line about breast enhancements is gone.
Anonymous No.718805236 >>718805414 >>718805875
>>718805123
You mean MGS2's story where it's all about the SSS program that can make anyone into Snake... except Raiden is ACKUYALLY an experience child soldier trained by Solidus? Oh also Otacon fucked his mom while is sister was drowing. That MGS2 story? lmao
Anonymous No.718805336
>>718785917 (OP)
I'm so sick of modern game devs
Anonymous No.718805359
>>718805123
>compared to 2
Metal Gear 2 and not Solid right? ...right?
Anonymous No.718805414 >>718805456
>>718805236
still better than anything in 3
Anonymous No.718805456
>>718805414
whatever you say, woman
Anonymous No.718805468
>>718786807
You know what's funny about this, the Metal Gear Solid series is why I always try to go non-lethal as much as humanly possible in any game that I'm playing.
Anonymous No.718805478
>rejeeted edition
Not even once. That said mgs1 is the only good, because kojimbo was co creator only.
Anonymous No.718805738 >>718805867
>>718785917 (OP)
>people here always criticize modern games for putting absurd lighting that makes no sense
>now that a remake fixes the retarded ps2 bloom they bitch

the absolute and utterly retarded religious contrarianism of this board has officially tired me
Anonymous No.718805768
>>718796810
Do you understand why 4chan removed the IP counter?
This is all by design.
Anonymous No.718805867
>>718805738
>retarded ps2 bloom
not even that, it's retarded ps3 bloom >>718801753
and people were still bitching
Anonymous No.718805875
>>718805236
You actually didn't understand the story.
Anonymous No.718805960
>>718786096
>zoomers unironically thinking the brown and grey bloom of gen 7 looks good
Anonymous No.718806015
>>718796810
>so many shills
and it's niggers defending the wrong verison of MGS3 >>718801753
Anonymous No.718806037 >>718806121
the year is 2025
Anonymous No.718806047 >>718806314 >>718806425
If Konami is really going to do this shit again, then they should at least enter into some partnership with Kojima - if they can't share the property entirely, then have a partnership between studios or whatever so he can come back and do actual MGS stuff when he feels like it, and still do Death Stranding and other projects on his own, both with the kinds of budgets he wants. Hell, he could even come back and make a true definitive edition MGSV with all the content that was cut and stuff he wanted to add but knew they were already bitching about the time and money.

I'm wary of what sort of "new" content there is going to be in Delta; supposedly when you beat the game there's some new stuff that wasn't in MGS3 Subsistance . Which reminds me.. when the fuck is Konami going to get finished remastering the Master Collection Volume 2? They've been dicking around forever with that.
Anonymous No.718806096
>>718803709
Modern lighting models sacrifice their ability to do transparency effects well in exchange for being able to have thousands of light-sources per scene, deferred vs forward rendering. This is why you'll see images on /v/ of video game hair that looks like it's made of blocks, because they're expecting temporal AA to fix the issues deferred rendering has with transparencies.
Anonymous No.718806120 >>718806156
How many times are shills going to use the
>No no, you never liked the original at all!
tactic, and how does it even sell a remake in the first place?
If it was true, why would I want to play a new version of the same game?
Anonymous No.718806121 >>718806218
>>718806037
>1344x756

Grim.
Anonymous No.718806135
>>718804723
>have you ever played mgs2?
Have you ever look into Konami?
They're the Yugioh company. Metal Gear is meaningless. Konami does make more bank with train simulators.
Anonymous No.718806156 >>718806382
>>718806120
most of the reviews are bitching it didn't change enough fuck off
Anonymous No.718806203
>>718785917 (OP)
it actually looks like AI made it.
Anonymous No.718806218 >>718806253 >>718806281 >>718806289 >>718806412
>>718806121
Anonymous No.718806253
>>718806218
let me guess, you "need" more
Anonymous No.718806281
>>718806218
720p is still completely fine in 2025
Anonymous No.718806289
>>718806218
the last two arent on his lap top though
Anonymous No.718806312 >>718806927
>>718801753
Why does this still look better than the remake
Anonymous No.718806314 >>718806905
>>718806047
There is no sharing, Konami owns it. Outside of pride, I'm sure Kojima doesn't even want to make more anymore MGS games. Wasn't like he had problems with other people working on the series with something like Twin Snakes around.
Anonymous No.718806352
>>718797038
okay then prove them otherwise
Anonymous No.718806382 >>718806563
>>718806156
>Why do shills keep doing this
>UH REVIEWERS DON'T EVEN LIKE IT
???
Anonymous No.718806412
>>718806218
>60 hz
Anonymous No.718806425 >>718806905
>>718806047
you people need to realize most creator don't give a shit about the stuff they make as much as fans do. Kojima hasn't cared about metal gear since 3
Anonymous No.718806471 >>718806718
>>718803709
It's not just this scene
Anonymous No.718806539
>>718785917 (OP)
Bottom one is just a Gmod mockup, right?
RIGHT?
Anonymous No.718806563 >>718806616 >>718806690
>>718806382
it contradicts you narrative that "it changed everything because the original is worse" yet a bunch of people are bitching that it's just metal gear 3 again. It's like both people want to bitch that they changed everything yet nothing at the same time
Anonymous No.718806608 >>718806703 >>718806978
>>718805057
>I'm going to make another game about old men and honor in combat, the price of war, nationalism, conspiracies, and all the rest
>but don't worry Jr high school girls, grind yourself to orgasm on the controller!
I wonder how it worked out. I can't imagine junior high school girls being a big demographic during the PS1/PS2 era in the first place, but can you fucking imagine the balls on Kojimbo to make such a suggestion? A different time and i miss it. This was the era where
>Rez
came with a
>trance rotor
in its special edition and nobody freaked the fuck out. Not even La Creatividad could get away with that shit today telling jr high girls that if they don't care for the character design, but we added a way for you to get yourself off so I hope we're cool.
Anonymous No.718806616 >>718806651
>>718806563
I can't parse any actual information from your post, sorry.
Anonymous No.718806651
>>718806616
this ai bot fucking sucks
Anonymous No.718806684 >>718807027
>>718801753
it just goes to show you /v/ is full of the most fucking retarded chimps known to mankind and you should never take their words as truth, holy fuck. the fact that people didn't even know OP was from the ps3 HD ports and genuinely went
"this was so like the ps2!" makes me want to die
Anonymous No.718806690 >>718806795
>>718806563
>bitch that they changed everything yet nothing at the same time
I don't see a problem with this.
Anonymous No.718806703
>>718806608
it's an edit you tard, he didn't really suggest they should masturbate with a controler
Anonymous No.718806718 >>718806849
>>718806471
Anonymous No.718806789
>>718802238
but OP didn't mention it was from the ps2, people just assumed as much LMAO
Anonymous No.718806795
>>718806690
because they want it to be more or less the same and you will still get endless bitching about muh "creative vision"
Anonymous No.718806849
>>718806718
>modded skyrim with ENB screenshot
Anonymous No.718806894
>>718796810
>the same shit happened with the SH2 demake
I had to filter the term "silent hill" the shilling was so bad. Gonna have to do the same with Metal Gear too. Fuck Konami.
Anonymous No.718806905
>>718806314
Twin Snakes was a mixed bag, but all that was before the shitstorm blowup during MGSV; I can imagine he's very fucking frustrated after that whole thing and causing him to cut things he wanted to do, mess with his story etc. It was not an amicable parting, but Konami can't really seem to get the story and the other stuff right on its own, so if they intend to keep doing this besides just graphically remastering older games or making a remake like Delta, it behooves them to work it out.

>>718806425
Not sure about that of all people Kojima (and some others he collabs with including those who came to KojiPro's games with him) seems to have a real affinity for what he makes. Its the same reason that he's put "Not-MGS character references " in Death Stranding and other things with that aesthetic, features, concept, plus the upcoming titles he's working on about sneaking mission shooters again etc. He certainly hasn't given up on the same sort of themes that we see in Death Stranding and MGS etc. .
Anonymous No.718806927 >>718807818
>>718806312
Because of an art direction. Delta highlu reminds me of high poly models mods for GTA San Andreas. Game was made with low poly and low resolution In mind and Delta just changed the graphical assets while keeping the core. This is also why old animatons feels off with updated graphic.
Anonymous No.718806930
>>718790115
You will never be John Carpenter.
Anonymous No.718806978 >>718807491
>>718806608
It was probably just to see what school girl demograph in general liked in video games. In the ps1/ps2 era was a pretty big increase in appeal to japanese female otaku (or fujoshi). FFX is another example. You see it a lot with a big switch to effeminate men in Japanese games during that era
Anonymous No.718807014
>>718787173
4 takes place like 50 years after 3. Of course the area is gonna look different
Anonymous No.718807019
>>718785917 (OP)
Top:Anti soul gass
Bottom: Sovl
Anonymous No.718807027
>>718806684
it shows how expectations and perspective are everything when it comes to media
you tell people OP was handcrafted in kojima's vision and they will find every perceived molecule of artistic intent and try to convince you everything they argue is clearly deliberate and self-evident
you tell them it's a port made by hacks, then it's the worst thing ever with no artistic merit
proves a piece of art's true measure is 30% inherent real value and 70% the perceived value by the beholder
Anonymous No.718807040 >>718807084
Why do shills ALWAYS shit on the original? You would think they'd say something like "it's just a different perspective on the story! it's not a replacement!" but no they always come out swinging for some reason.
Anonymous No.718807084 >>718807119
>>718807040
OP isn't even the original dumb fag
Anonymous No.718807119 >>718807164
>>718807084
Kill yourself you worthless shitskin.
Anonymous No.718807164 >>718807223
>>718807119
I'm not your mirror
Anonymous No.718807198
>>718785917 (OP)
>Unreal Engine 5
*sighs* when will they ever learn
Anonymous No.718807223 >>718807252
>>718807164
I am white, which is why I have a job and don't shill shitty demakes on an anime porn forum for a meager amount of rupees.
Anonymous No.718807252
>>718807223
>I am white
sure don't act it
Anonymous No.718807491 >>718807814
>>718806978
Switch to? I don't think that's particularly unusual. There were always differences between
>Western AH-NULD side of beef masculinity
>Japan, long haired swordsman who can cut a flower stem half before you see him draw the blade and give it to the pretty girl who swoons over him
style of manly. Link is a good example when in anime style, but later on with early 3D you got the various Cloud and Squall, Ramza, and every other variation of handsome JRPG protagonist . Think half of the handsome SNK fighter (Samurai Shodown, Last Blade) characters, Ukyo Tachibana being perhaps the best early example. Raiden never seemed overly feminine within that context, compared to some of the waifish boys in an CLAMP project or whatever the fuck which I'd say is closer to the fujobait style.
Anonymous No.718807497
>>718785917 (OP)
This is just Shadow of the Colossus demaster all over again.
Anonymous No.718807582 >>718807871
>>718787173
this looks better to me than 3 remake. why?
Anonymous No.718807814 >>718808738
>>718807491
There used to be like Kenshrio, Captain Harlock, Lupin III, Golgo 13, etc and you saw more of an appeal to men. But over time there was a gradual appeal to women. Snake is similar since he was from the 80s when it was okay for men to be men. By the time you're get to MGS2 in the early 00s, you got to fujopander.

Oh and Cloud originally just reminds me of Gohan or Goku mixed with Guts in his design. Then by the time AC came out they defintiely made Cloud far more effeminate.
Anonymous No.718807818 >>718807904
>>718806927
they redid all the animations and they're kinda worse than the ps2 ver
Anonymous No.718807871
>>718807582
because it looks better
Anonymous No.718807904 >>718807965
>>718807818
>they redid all the animations
Not all and certainly not in the cutscenes
Anonymous No.718807929
>>718796810
I actually liked the SH2 Remake but I think this MGS3 Remake looks visually repulsive.
Anonymous No.718807965
>>718807904
it's exactly like the oblivion "remake" in that regard
Anonymous No.718807969
>>718785917 (OP)
It's like if someone decided to remake the scene in SFM
Anonymous No.718807997
>>718799890
come on now
Anonymous No.718808738
>>718807814
Well many of those were active at the same time, but there were always different genres. There were a lot of "handsome" in a way westerners would call feminine heroes even back in the 70s 80s and 90s. Those examples you mentioned were good characters too, but you would have characters like Kurama of YuYu Hakusho (who was expressly thought to be handsome and desired by women) even in one of the big battle shonen of the time long before leveraging a female audience was a thing. Even in the 70s and 80s you had handsome Gundam / Macross protags and other characters, and since its coming out in a few days - https://store.steampowered.com/app/2878220/Space_Adventure_Cobra__The_Awakening/ - all had handsome heroes that often had poofy hair or looked what some may call "feminine". in the west. Hell, look at the Voltron/GoLion protags. Lets not forget the 70s and 80s were also the time of big hair rockers and metal etc so I think there's a variety. Even the prototype for Snake himself visually, Kurt Russel in Escape from NY / Escape from LA has a beard and is "rugged" but he's also handsome with longer hair etc.

For Cloud I think it was mostly technical limitations and he was designed to have "host boy hair" and be attractive. Of course even in 2D you can tell Sephiroth is supposed to be massively handsome, but even going back to the 90s look at what Cecil of FFIV is supposed to look like, or how many of the male FFVI characters are handsome and attractive (Locke, Edward, Setzer etc). I don't think most of these decisions were made to court fujos or that large amounts of the market for something like MGS were thought to "need" to be something teenage girls were expecting to buy; that may be the biggest thing. You were allowed to have a market that appreciated your games and you weren't falling over yourself to make people outside that likely market buy, especially if it ruined what your players enjoyed.
Anonymous No.718809423
>>718805158
dumb frog poster
Anonymous No.718809484
>>718801823
what did you expect? its /v/ they always gotta be contrarian retards